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Magnetic

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Dec 2, 2009, 6:34:17 AM12/2/09
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December 2, 2009 I have delivered petition to the Prosecutor’s Office
of Russia.

To Prosecutor’s Office of Russia.
From Ivan Gorelik (address, phone, passport data)

Statement

1. Please bring to criminal responsibility the authors of documents on
the Large Hadron Collider Safety Assessment, because these documents
contain crude errors and false statements. See Annex 1.
2. Please contact the law enforcement bodies of the European Union and
demand the immediate termination of the experiment at the Collider,
since the experiment could lead to the magnetic collapse and to the
collaptical explosion of the Earth.
Grounds:
A. 20 November 2009 an international committee ConCERNed filed a
complaint to the European Court of Human Rights in Geneva to stop the
experiment at the Collider, but CERN continues experiment and increase
the energy of collisions and their frequency. http://www.lhc-concern.info/
B. Physicists of CERN considered only four items of dangerous objects
that can be created at the collider, and ignored the theory of
magnetic holes. I have repeatedly appealed to higher authorities about
the danger of magnetic holes. Calculation of magnetic holes is shown
here: http://darkenergy.narod.ru/magtren.html
3. I beg to bring to the United Nations the issue of an international
ban on the collision of particles with energies higher than 0.1 TeV.

December 2, 2009. Signature.

Annex on three sheets from my page Russian language page Crude Errors
and Lie in the Safety Assessment of Collider. http://darkenergy.narod.ru/tezru.html
English language analog of this page you can find here:
http://darkenergy.narod.ru/tezeng.html

If you want to live, make the same in your country.

Inertial

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Dec 2, 2009, 6:57:18 AM12/2/09
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"Magnetic" <magnet...@yandex.ua> wrote in message
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> December 2, 2009 I have delivered petition to the Prosecutor�s Office
> of Russia.
>
> To Prosecutor�s Office of Russia.

This is hilarious. I'm sure suvh a letter will go directly into the garbage
bin after being laughed at.

Dirk Van de moortel

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eric gisse

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Magnetic wrote:

[...]

How do you say 'fruitloop' in Russian? I only remember some standard
greetings, a few curse words, and a few scattered words and phrases.

Magnetic

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> > If you want to live, make the same in your country.

> This is hilarious.  I'm sure suvh a letter will go directly into the garbage

> bin after being laughed at.- Hide quoted text -

If you want to live, arrest CERN leaders


Inertial

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Dec 2, 2009, 8:50:57 AM12/2/09
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"Magnetic" <magnet...@yandex.ua> wrote in message
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And how would I do that, even if I wanted to?

Magnetic

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Dec 2, 2009, 10:06:36 AM12/2/09
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On Dec 2, 3:50 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...@rest.com> wrote:
> "Magnetic" <magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote in message

They made crude errors in their documentation about Earth safety from
Collider.
Say about this in your country’s Prosecutor’s Office.
CERN can kill all of us: physicists, prosecutors...

Uncle Al

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Dec 2, 2009, 11:05:56 AM12/2/09
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Magnetic wrote:
>
> December 2, 2009 I have delivered petition to the Prosecutor�s Office
> of Russia.
[snip crap]

Why do you wish to persecute Russia?

--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm

PD

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Dec 2, 2009, 11:06:43 AM12/2/09
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On Dec 2, 5:34 am, Magnetic <magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote:
> December 2, 2009 I have delivered petition to the Prosecutor’s Office
> of Russia.
>
> To Prosecutor’s Office of Russia.
> From Ivan Gorelik (address, phone, passport data)
>
> Statement
>
> 1. Please bring to criminal responsibility the authors of documents on
> the Large Hadron Collider Safety Assessment, because these documents
> contain crude errors and false statements. See Annex 1.
> 2. Please contact the law enforcement bodies of the European Union and
> demand the immediate termination of the experiment at the Collider,
> since the experiment could lead to the magnetic collapse and to the
> collaptical explosion of the Earth.
> Grounds:
> A. 20 November 2009 an international committee ConCERNed filed a
> complaint to the European Court of Human Rights in Geneva to stop the
> experiment at the Collider, but CERN continues experiment and increase
> the energy of collisions and their frequency.http://www.lhc-concern.info/

> B. Physicists of CERN considered only four items of dangerous objects
> that can be created at the collider, and ignored the theory of
> magnetic holes. I have repeatedly appealed to higher authorities about
> the danger of magnetic holes. Calculation of magnetic holes is shown
> here:http://darkenergy.narod.ru/magtren.html
> 3. I beg to bring to the United Nations the issue of an international
> ban on the collision of particles with energies higher than 0.1 TeV.
>
> December 2, 2009. Signature.
>
> Annex on three sheets from my page Russian language page Crude Errors
> and Lie in the Safety Assessment of Collider.http://darkenergy.narod.ru/tezru.html

> English language analog of this page you can find here:http://darkenergy.narod.ru/tezeng.html
>
> If you want to live, make the same in your country.

At least this letter does not threaten violence by the author.

dlzc

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Dec 2, 2009, 11:34:59 AM12/2/09
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On Dec 2, 8:06 am, Magnetic <magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote:
...

> They made crude errors in their
> documentation about Earth safety from
> Collider. Say about this in your
> country’s Prosecutor’s Office. CERN can
> kill all of us: physicists, prosecutors...

They made no errors, you did.

David A. Smith

Magnetic

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Dec 2, 2009, 11:42:36 AM12/2/09
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> > December 2, 2009 I have delivered petition to the Prosecutor’s Office
> > of Russia.

> Why do you wish to persecute Russia?

> Uncle Al

Do you remember your picture, you tried to show me?

Go to your bath-room, enter your head into your syphilitic cloak, and
look around. Is already OK?

Give people a link ones more at your picture. Let they laugh at you.

7

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Dec 2, 2009, 1:28:06 PM12/2/09
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Magnetic wrote:

> December 2, 2009 I have delivered petition to the Prosecutor’s Office
> of Russia.
>
> To Prosecutor’s Office of Russia.
> From Ivan Gorelik (address, phone, passport data)
>
> Statement
>
> 1. Please bring to criminal responsibility the authors of documents on
> the Large Hadron Collider Safety Assessment, because these documents
> contain crude errors and false statements. See Annex 1.
> 2. Please contact the law enforcement bodies of the European Union and
> demand the immediate termination of the experiment at the Collider,
> since the experiment could lead to the magnetic collapse and to the
> collaptical explosion of the Earth.


Of course. And you will now explain why Cosmic rays have 10^20 eV
since records began. And then you will compare it with the LHC.

Dr Ivan D. Reid

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Dec 2, 2009, 2:59:53 PM12/2/09
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On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 03:34:17 -0800 (PST), Magnetic <magnet...@yandex.ua>
wrote in <c131af82-ecec-4885...@m3g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>:

> 2. Please contact the law enforcement bodies of the European Union and
> demand the immediate termination of the experiment at the Collider,

You might want to look at an atlas...

...or http://europa.eu/abc/european_countries/eu_members/index_en.htm

--
Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________ CMS Collaboration,
Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

Richard Tobin

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Dec 2, 2009, 6:18:04 PM12/2/09
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In article <slrnhhdhpp.4...@loki.brunel.ac.uk>,

Dr Ivan D. Reid <Ivan...@brunel.ac.uk> wrote:

>> 2. Please contact the law enforcement bodies of the European Union and
>> demand the immediate termination of the experiment at the Collider,

> You might want to look at an atlas...

... from which you will doscover that (a) part of the LHC is in
France, and (b) France is in the EU.

-- Richard
--
Please remember to mention me / in tapes you leave behind.

Uncle Al

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Dec 2, 2009, 10:34:16 AM12/2/09
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Magnetic wrote:
>
> December 2, 2009 I have delivered petition to the Prosecutor�s Office
> of Russia.
[snip crap]

Wy do you wish to persecute Russia?

Magnetic

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Dec 3, 2009, 2:16:36 AM12/3/09
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:> Magnetic wrote:

> > December 2, 2009 I have delivered petition to the Prosecutor’s Office
> > of Russia.

Send police to CERN and arrest Rolf Heuer and all his bigbangers. He
is deadly dangerous for all humanity. He can kill you today with
great
probability.

http://darkenergy.narod.ru/


John Christiansen

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Dec 3, 2009, 5:18:27 AM12/3/09
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"Richard Tobin" <ric...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk> skrev i en meddelelse
news:hf6sjc$g1u$3...@pc-news.cogsci.ed.ac.uk...

But you will also discover that the main part of the laboratories and all
the administration is in Switzerland which is NOT a member of the EU.

John Christiansen.


Androcles

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Dec 3, 2009, 5:25:02 AM12/3/09
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"John Christiansen" <super...@mail1.stofanet.dk> wrote in message
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It'll never work anyway, the hadrons have to slow down at the border
to show their passports.


Inertial

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"Androcles" <Headm...@Hogwarts.physics_q> wrote in message
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I don't agree with you misinformed ideas of physics .. but i like you humor

Magnetic

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On Dec 3, 12:49 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...@rest.com> wrote:
> "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics_q> wrote in message
>
> news:9mMRm.4065$Dl4....@newsfe08.ams2...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "John Christiansen" <superkae...@mail1.stofanet.dk> wrote in message
> >news:4b179076$0$21644$ba62...@nntp02.dk.telia.net...
>
> >> "Richard Tobin" <rich...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk> skrev i en meddelelse
> >>news:hf6sjc$g1u$3...@pc-news.cogsci.ed.ac.uk...
> >>> In article <slrnhhdhpp.47n.Ivan.R...@loki.brunel.ac.uk>,

> >>> Dr Ivan D. Reid <Ivan.R...@brunel.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> >>>>> 2. Please contact the law enforcement bodies of the European Union and
> >>>>> demand the immediate termination of the experiment at the Collider,
>
> >>>> You might want to look at an atlas...
>
> >>> ... from which you will doscover that (a) part of the LHC is in
> >>> France, and (b) France is in the EU.
>
> >>> -- Richard
> >>> --
> >>> Please remember to mention me / in tapes you leave behind.
>
> >> But you will also discover that the main part of the laboratories and all
> >> the administration is in Switzerland which is NOT a member of the EU.
>
> >> John Christiansen.
> > It'll never work anyway, the hadrons have to slow down at the border
> > to show their passports.
>
> I don't agree with you misinformed ideas of physics .. but i like you humor- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Magnetic

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Dec 3, 2009, 5:56:17 AM12/3/09
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Send police to CERN and arrest Rolf Heuer and all his bigbangers. He
is deadly dangerous for all humanity. He can kill you today with great
probability.

http://darkenergy.narod.ru/


December 2, 2009 I have delivered petition to the Prosecutor’s Office
of Russia.


To Prosecutor’s Office of Russia.
From Ivan Gorelik (address, phone, passport data)
Statement


1. Please bring to criminal responsibility the authors of documents on
the Large Hadron Collider Safety Assessment, because these documents
contain crude errors and false statements. See Annex 1.

2. Please contact the law enforcement bodies of the European Union and
demand the immediate termination of the experiment at the Collider,

Inertial

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Dec 3, 2009, 6:09:26 AM12/3/09
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"Magnetic" <magnet...@yandex.ua> wrote in message
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> Send police to CERN and arrest Rolf Heuer and all his bigbangers. He
> is deadly dangerous for all humanity. He can kill you today with great
> probability.
>
> http://darkenergy.narod.ru/
>
>
> December 2, 2009 I have delivered petition to the Prosecutor�s Office
> of Russia.
>
>
> To Prosecutor�s Office of Russia.

hopefully you letter is treated with all the respect it deserves.

Magnetic

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Dec 4, 2009, 6:00:21 AM12/4/09
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> Of course. And you will now explain why Cosmic rays have 10^20 eV
> since records began. And then you will compare it with the LHC.

Collider mh has 0 kinetic energy and about 1 TeV rest mass.
Equivalent cosmo-atmospheric mh has 1000 000 TeV kinetic energy and 1
TeV rest mass.

Collider mh grow and capture slow particles.
Cosmo-atmospheric ruined.

a. What will happen to nucleus smashed by eV neutron?
b. What will happen to nucleus smashed by TeV neutron?

a. Capture and growth of nucleus.
b. Destruction of nucleus.

http://darkenergy.narod.ru/


Сегодня ночью прописался на ЦЕРНовском сайте.
http://www.lhcportal.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=116&sid=4fed01608c81fc7caf4e713a5743114d
Поднял вопрос об ошибках по безопасности. Сразу же скинули в «яму» под
названием «Controvercial topics».
Кто-то заорал "забанить".
Кто-то завозмущался.
А один честно сказал, “я в этом ничего не понимаю, и вряд ли здесь кто-
то что-то понимает”.
Тем не менее, пучки гоняют на 450 ГэВ.
Сегодня-завтра обещают столкновения.

Рекомендую гулять на свежем воздухе.

На глобальную катастрофу отвожу порядка 3-10 %, и улица вас не спасет.
На локальную катастрофу (отскок куска Швейцарии, магнитные осы и т.п.)
отвожу порядка 0,5%. А у нас это может аукнуться мощным
землетрясением.

На то, что при энергиях 0,45 ТеВ на протон все будет нормально отвожу
90-97%.

Теватрон не в счет, - там между пролетающими мимо друг другом протоном
и антипротоном магнитная индукция равна нулю. На БАКе B=2B_1.

Anti Vigilante

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> Collider mh grow and capture slow particles. Cosmo-atmospheric ruined.
>
> a. What will happen to nucleus smashed by eV neutron? b. What will
> happen to nucleus smashed by TeV neutron?

When's the last time you've heard of an accelerated neutron?

What process would accelerate the neutron?

Keep in mind neutrons cannot be accelerated by magnets.

> a. Capture and growth of nucleus.
> b. Destruction of nucleus.
>
> http://darkenergy.narod.ru/
>

--
Fuck the Enlightenment! Viva la Renaissance!

Androcles

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"Anti Vigilante" <antivi...@pyrabang.com> wrote in message
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>> Collider mh grow and capture slow particles. Cosmo-atmospheric ruined.
>>
>> a. What will happen to nucleus smashed by eV neutron? b. What will
>> happen to nucleus smashed by TeV neutron?
>
> When's the last time you've heard of an accelerated neutron?
>
> What process would accelerate the neutron?

Accelerate ionised helium and you accelerate neutrons.

>
> Keep in mind neutrons cannot be accelerated by magnets.

Keep in mind that neutrons are closely allied to protons.


Anti Vigilante

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On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:31:12 +0000, Androcles wrote:

> "Anti Vigilante" <antivi...@pyrabang.com> wrote in message
> news:hfbbjp$36l$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Collider mh grow and capture slow particles. Cosmo-atmospheric ruined.
>>>
>>> a. What will happen to nucleus smashed by eV neutron? b. What will
>>> happen to nucleus smashed by TeV neutron?
>>
>> When's the last time you've heard of an accelerated neutron?
>>
>> What process would accelerate the neutron?
>
> Accelerate ionised helium and you accelerate neutrons.

Free unbound neutrons. Is there even such a thing other than in stars?

>
>
>
>> Keep in mind neutrons cannot be accelerated by magnets.
>
> Keep in mind that neutrons are closely allied to protons.

He's talking about free neutrons.

Androcles

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"Anti Vigilante" <antivi...@pyrabang.com> wrote in message
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So collide some ionized helium atoms. Isn't that what a collider is for?


Magnetic

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CERN started collisions of protons with energy 0.45 TeV per proton.
Both beams have four bunches of protons.

If magnetic moment of x-boson equal to magnetic moment of proton this
energy is sufficient to create the microscopic magnetic hole.

It is needed from 1000 seconds to 1000 days to destroy the Earth.

Let’s wait and see.

If we’ll survive now, CERN will add the quantity of bunches per beam
and will raise the energy of collisions.

CERN started the experiment despite the courts and our appeals. CERN
is terrorist organization.

Most of physicists are coward, or stupid, or smug, not able to
understand where this experiment will lead us.

Magnetic

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Dec 7, 2009, 3:18:16 AM12/7/09
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December, 7, 2009. 07.30 GMT.
Now they have cryo problems.
Possible problems from my point of view:
1)Microscopic magnetic holes are already created and emit the
radiation.
2)Usual breakage.

Now I go to Moscow State University to talk with physicists.
By the way, while I fighting in Moscow, two cars with seven policemen
come to my home in Feodosia couple of days ago. They asked my
neighbors: am I adequate; can I beat anyone; can I beat my wife?
This arrival possibly connected with my letters to some presidents of
European countries, which I sent a week ago:

Collisions of protons with energies about 1 TeV can lead to MAGNETIC
collapse and explosion of Earth with probability about 30%. Thus, you
can kill me and my relatives.

Please, advice me, what can I do to stop you:

1) To kill some citizens from your countries?
2) To kill myself in front of your Embassy?
3) ???

Ivan Gorelik. darke...@yandex.ru
http://darkenergy.narod.ru/
+7 (8)965 372 00 ??

Calm down, gentlemen. I am not able to kill anybody. I wrote this in
order to make you think: what are you doing.


Inertial

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Dec 7, 2009, 4:49:11 AM12/7/09
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"Magnetic" <magnet...@yandex.ua> wrote in message
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Hopefully you'll be arrested after your threats of violence and murder

Aleph

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Dec 7, 2009, 8:47:19 AM12/7/09
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On Sunday 06 December 2009 11:55, in <b4d94738-7177-4c21-8e7c-
c65423...@k9g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>, Magnetic sat down and wrote the
following words of wisdom:

You're sort of a retard. Aren't you?

--
Aleph

This message was posted to usenet so please reply that way. Emails to
this account are very likely to be ignored.

Aleph

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On Monday 07 December 2009 09:49, in
<00a65428$0$15577$c3e...@news.astraweb.com>, Inertial sat down and wrote
the following words of wisdom:

> "Magnetic" <magnet...@yandex.ua> wrote in message

If not, I hope he takes option 2 outside my embassy...

Magnetic

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Dec 7, 2009, 9:40:34 AM12/7/09
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> Hopefully you'll be arrested after your threats of violence and murder- Hide quoted text -

The jail is better that you and your children will be killed by CERN.

PD

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On Dec 7, 8:40 am, Magnetic <magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote:
> > Hopefully you'll be arrested after your threats of violence and murder- Hide quoted text -
>
> The jail is better that you and your children will be killed by CERN.

I don't see how. You're being in jail will not coincide with shutting
down of the accelerator, so all it will mean is that you'll be in jail
rather than with your family, whether the world ends or not. You have
to get it through your thick skull that your actions will not change
anything.

Inertial

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Dec 7, 2009, 5:38:34 PM12/7/09
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"Magnetic" <magnet...@yandex.ua> wrote in message
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>> Hopefully you'll be arrested after your threats of violence and murder-
>> Hide quoted text -
>
> The jail is better that you and your children will be killed by CERN.

They are not in danger from CERN. But people are in REAL danger from a
nutcase like you You should be locked up and given psychiatric trewatment

Magnetic

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Dec 8, 2009, 12:16:06 AM12/8/09
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> >> Hopefully you'll be arrested after your threats of violence and murder-

> > The jail is better that you and your children will be killed by CERN.

> They are not in danger from CERN.  But people are in REAL danger from a
> nutcase like you  You should be locked up and given psychiatric trewatment

Now I understand, why thousands of people were locked into psychiatric
hospitals and were healed there to dearth. That was made by nuclear
mafia and by crowd of idiots clapping in hands.
------
After a day of cryo problems, collider again is working.
Energy of collisions is 0.45 TeV per proton.
The probability of Earth explosion is very big.
STOP CERN. Arrest its leaders.
Rolf Heuer = Adolph Hitler.
Bigbangers is a cult of kamikazes\suicides.


Inertial

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Dec 8, 2009, 12:19:13 AM12/8/09
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"Magnetic" <magnet...@yandex.ua> wrote in message
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>
>> >> Hopefully you'll be arrested after your threats of violence and
>> >> murder-
>
>> > The jail is better that you and your children will be killed by CERN.
>
>> They are not in danger from CERN. But people are in REAL danger from a
>> nutcase like you You should be locked up and given psychiatric
>> trewatment
>
> Now I understand, why thousands of people were locked into psychiatric
> hospitals and were healed there to dearth. That was made by nuclear
> mafia and by crowd of idiots clapping in hands.

You are truly mentally disturbed . SEEK HELP !! You are not safe to be in
society untreated .. you are a danger to yourself and others.

BradGuth

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Dec 9, 2009, 11:38:52 PM12/9/09
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On Dec 2, 3:34 am, Magnetic <magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote:
> December 2, 2009 I have delivered petition to the Prosecutor’s Office
> of Russia.
>
> To Prosecutor’s Office of Russia.

> From Ivan Gorelik (address, phone, passport data)
>
> Statement
>
> 1. Please bring to criminal responsibility the authors of documents on
> the Large Hadron Collider Safety Assessment, because these documents
> contain crude errors and false statements. See Annex 1.
> 2. Please contact the law enforcement bodies of the European Union and
> demand the immediate termination of the experiment at the Collider,
> since the experiment could lead to the magnetic collapse and to the
> collaptical explosion of the Earth.
> Grounds:
> A. 20 November 2009 an international committee ConCERNed filed a
> complaint to the European Court of Human Rights in Geneva to stop the
> experiment at the Collider, but CERN continues experiment and increase
> the energy of collisions and their frequency.http://www.lhc-concern.info/

> B. Physicists of CERN considered only four items of dangerous objects
> that can be created at the collider, and ignored the theory of
> magnetic holes. I have repeatedly appealed to higher authorities about
> the danger of magnetic holes. Calculation of magnetic holes is shown
> here:http://darkenergy.narod.ru/magtren.html
> 3. I beg to bring to the United Nations the issue of an international
> ban on the collision of particles with energies higher than 0.1 TeV.
>
> December 2, 2009. Signature.
>
> Annex on three sheets from my page Russian language page Crude Errors
> and Lie in the Safety Assessment of Collider.http://darkenergy.narod.ru/tezru.html

> English language analog of this page you can find here:http://darkenergy.narod.ru/tezeng.html
>
> If you want to live, make the same in your country.

Perhaps this is what an LHC “magnetic trap” or wormhole vortex looks
like. Oddly, it seems that posting this kind of information has also
affected my Google Groups (Usenet/newsgroup) performance, at times
dragging it down to its knees. How many Usenet/newsgroup servers are
affected?

http://www.universetoday.com/2009/12/09/what-was-the-norway-spiral/
“Now they have done it, they fired up the LHC and created the black
hole.”

http://www.universetoday.com/2009/12/09/weird-giant-spiral-seen-in-sky-over-norway/
Apparently, this is not a Photoshopped image, as there are several
more just like it, taken from various locations. This morning in
northern Norway, people saw a strange light in the sky which shocked
residents and so far, the phenomenon has yet to be explained. This
picture was taken from a pier, looking to the east, approximately at
07.50 am local time. "I can imagine that it went on for two, three
minutes," said the photographer Jan Petter Jørgensen. "It was
unbelievable. I was quite shaken when I saw it."

“I also received a report today from a geophysicist in Papua,
Indonesia who observed "an enormous flare (bolide?) visible here at
Tomage (2°39'27"S 132°59'27"E), and the sighting was at a bearing
approximately 165 (East of South) and the flare seemed to begin at
about 30 degrees above the horizon." Paul Anderson said the date and
time of the flare was approximately 2009.12.09 12:39 UTC”

You recently suggested nuking our spendy LHC as a method of putting a
stop to their madness, which isn’t an entirely unacceptable option,
although even a relatively small tactical nuke should damage enough
LHC helium cooling to force an extended shut-down.

~ BG

BradGuth

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On Dec 7, 9:19 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...@rest.com> wrote:
> "Magnetic" <magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote in message

What should a magnetic trap or wormhole look like?

Perhaps this is what an LHC “magnetic trap” or wormhole vortex looks
like.

http://www.universetoday.com/2009/12/09/what-was-the-norway-spiral/
“Now they have done it, they fired up the LHC and created the black
hole.”

http://www.universetoday.com/2009/12/09/weird-giant-spiral-seen-in-sky-over-norway/
Apparently, this is not a Photoshopped image, as there are several
more just like it, taken from various locations. This morning in
northern Norway, people saw a strange light in the sky which shocked
residents and so far, the phenomenon has yet to be explained. This
picture was taken from a pier, looking to the east, approximately at
07.50 am local time. "I can imagine that it went on for two, three
minutes," said the photographer Jan Petter Jørgensen. "It was
unbelievable. I was quite shaken when I saw it."

“I also received a report today from a geophysicist in Papua,
Indonesia who observed "an enormous flare (bolide?) visible here at
Tomage (2°39'27"S 132°59'27"E), and the sighting was at a bearing
approximately 165 (East of South) and the flare seemed to begin at
about 30 degrees above the horizon." Paul Anderson said the date and
time of the flare was approximately 2009.12.09 12:39 UTC”

~ BG

Magnetic

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Dec 11, 2009, 12:52:18 PM12/11/09
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> What should a magnetic trap or wormhole look like?

Minimal mh, able to destroy protons, is cylinder N^+S^- with 340 small
cylinders N^+S^-, (0.34 TeV).
Small cylinders N^+S^- is x-boson, virtual electron-positron pair.
Electron moves along up edge of cylinder.
Positron moves along down edge of cylinder.

The binding energy of big cylinder is about 0.17 TeV.
and so on
Look here: http://darkenergy.narod.ru/ru.html

I am optimist and say that CERN will not kill us all in this weekend
with probability about 80-90%.

Uncle Al

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Dec 11, 2009, 3:53:29 PM12/11/09
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Magnetic wrote:
>
> > What should a magnetic trap or wormhole look like?
>
> Minimal mh, able to destroy protons,
[snip crap]

1) Violates conservation laws: charge, mass, angular momentum,
baryon number, isopin.
2) idiot

> I am optimist and say that CERN will not kill us all in this weekend
> with probability about 80-90%.

idiot

In Garden Grove, CA a dipsy-doodle preacher such as yourself exactly
predicted the date of the Day of Rapture, from claimed intensive Bible
study. His congregation disposed of all their worldy goods, wore
sackcloth, and gathered on a hill before dawn on THAT DAY.

At sunset the preacher posited his calculation had been off a bit.
Perhaps it was the Julian vs. Gregorian calendar discontinuity. Press
the Reset Button.

His congregation wore sackcloth and gathered on a hill before dawn on
THAT DAY, revised. At sunset they all repaired to their church. Said
preacher mounted the podium, opened his mouth... and was stoned with
hymnals for starters. Police got him out barely alive.

We all hope and pray there is no "barely" in your case. Talk it out
with your trisomy-21 god up close and personal.

--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm

Magnetic

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Dec 12, 2009, 1:45:19 AM12/12/09
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Today CERN plan to work at energies 1.18 TeV per protons.

If magnetic moment of x-boson equal to magnetic moment of proton this
energy is sufficient to create the microscopic magnetic hole.


It is needed from 1000 seconds to 1000 days to destroy the Earth.


Let’s wait and see.


If we’ll survive now, CERN will add the quantity of bunches per beam
and will raise the energy of collisions.


CERN started the experiment despite the courts and our appeals. CERN
is terrorist organization.


Most of physicists are coward, or stupid, or smug, not able to
understand where this experiment will lead us.


I give 80-90% that CERN will kill not us during this weekend.

You can rise up a little this probability if you make something to
stop the global suicide.

http://darkenergy.narod.ru/ru.html

Javi

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Dec 12, 2009, 8:40:31 PM12/12/09
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Magnetic wrote:

> Today CERN plan to work at energies 1.18 TeV per protons.
>
> If magnetic moment of x-boson equal to magnetic moment of proton this
> energy is sufficient to create the microscopic magnetic hole.
>
>
> It is needed from 1000 seconds to 1000 days to destroy the Earth.
>

Will you be writing this shit for 1000 days??? I hope the CERN destroys the
world.

>
> Let?s wait and see.
>
>
> If we?ll survive now, CERN will add the quantity of bunches per beam


> and will raise the energy of collisions.
>
>
> CERN started the experiment despite the courts and our appeals. CERN
> is terrorist organization.
>
>
> Most of physicists are coward, or stupid, or smug, not able to
> understand where this experiment will lead us.
>
>
> I give 80-90% that CERN will kill not us during this weekend.
>
> You can rise up a little this probability if you make something to
> stop the global suicide.

Where is Al-Qaeda when we need them?

Magnetic

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Dec 13, 2009, 1:59:53 AM12/13/09
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> > Let?s wait and see.

I’ll send my last 100 baxes to that CERN worker, who will destroy the
LHC.
Where are you, Hero?
Readers, please, copy this text and send it to your friends from CERN.
I said the truth.

---------
People, please, stop powerful colliders immediately.
Collisions with energy, more than 100 GeV must be banned by
international law, otherwise our Solar system will look like SN
1987A.
-------------

Here is not complete list of your potential killers:
2003 J.-P. Blaizot, J. Iliopoulos, J. Madsen, G.G. Ross, P.
Sonderegger, H.-J. Specht.
2008 John Ellis, Gian Giudice, Michelangelo Mangano, Igor Tkachev,
and
Urs Wiedemann.
And of course, Rolf Heuer, director of CERN, who neglects the opinion
of physicists, saying about dangers of LHC.
The crudest error, made by them, is equating of the consequences of
collider collisions with cosmo-atmospheric collisions. To see the
difference between these consequences look my model with two 10-kg
bottles with neutrons. You will see that the bottle, corresponding to
cosmic rays, will be safe. But the bottle, corresponding to LHC
collisions, will transform the town into Hiroshima.
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http://darkenergy.narod.ru/
http://darkenergy.narod.ru/ru.html

Inertial

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Dec 13, 2009, 2:10:01 AM12/13/09
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"Magnetic" <magnet...@yandex.ua> wrote in message
news:67bce1a8-2bdd-4569...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> I�ll send my last 100 baxes to that CERN worker, who will destroy the
> LHC.

What the hell is a 'bax' ?

Inertial

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Dec 13, 2009, 2:12:01 AM12/13/09
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>> Magnetic wrote:
>> > CERN started the experiment despite the courts and our appeals.

What court has ever ordered CERN not to continue with the LHC experiments?

>> > CERN is terrorist organization.

The only terrorist here is you. You are inciting violence and terrorist
activities. You should be arrested and locked up.

Javi

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Dec 13, 2009, 9:19:08 AM12/13/09
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Magnetic wrote:

> On Dec 13, 4:40 am, Javi <vze13y...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> Magnetic wrote:

[ a lot of shit]


>
>> > You can rise up a little this probability if you make something to
>> > stop the global suicide.
>
>> Where is Al-Qaeda when we need them?
>

> I?ll send my last 100 baxes to that CERN worker, who will destroy the


> LHC.
> Where are you, Hero?

If you promise to commit suicide, I'll be where you want me.

Magnetic

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Dec 14, 2009, 5:38:06 AM12/14/09
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> >> Magnetic wrote:

> >> > CERN is terrorist organization.

If magnetic moment of x-boson equal to magnetic moment of proton this


energy is sufficient to create the microscopic magnetic hole.

It is needed from 1000 seconds to 1000 days to destroy the Earth.

Let’s wait and see.

If we’ll survive now, CERN will add the quantity of bunches per beam


and will raise the energy of collisions.

CERN started the experiment despite the courts and our appeals. CERN
is terrorist organization.

Most of physicists are coward, or stupid, or smug, not able to
understand where this experiment will lead us.

-------------

Magnetic hole is a magnetic analog of the black hole. The black hole
is bonded by gravitational forces, and the magnetic hole is bonded by
magnetic forces, which are many-many times stronger than gravity
forces.

Magnetic hole is a magnetic dipole, and can have the form of a torus,
ellipsoid or cylinder, dependently of a matter distribution around it
and its magnetic properties. Inside the hole there is the critical
magnetic field, about 1016 teslas. The lines of magnetic induction are
directed perpendicular to the plane of the hole. Nucleons are
microscopic magnets, and they can be easily captured by the critical
field of the hole. Proton decays at x-boson and positron. Neutron
decays at x-boson and antineutrino. Positrons and antineutrino are
ejected from the hole; x-bosons are captured and the is growing.

The approximate computation shows that the minimal possible magnetic
hole, which can capture a nucleon, has a mass about 340 of masses of
nucleons. The Tevatron collider is now working above this region (1
TeV). Creation of magnetic holes at Tevatron was impossible for two
reasons:
1. Collision of a proton and an antiproton leads to annihilation;
2. In the center of the line, connecting the proton and antiproton,
facing a tangent, the magnetic field is zero.

The Large Hadron Collider (LHC) will be able to create the particles
with the rest mass, which are dozens times more that the minimal
possible mass of magnetic hole.

For several years, some scientists argue and demand to ban the
construction of powerful colliders. Among the known dangerous objects
that may lead to global catastrophe are the following: microscopic
black holes, strangelets, magnetic monopoles, vacuum bubbles. I
learned about these disputes and concerns only in early September
2008. And then I immediately noticed that the objects, bonded by
magnetic forces, were almost not analyzed.

In early September 2008, I assumed that the probability of a global
catastrophe is less than 0.000001. However, after analysis of the
objects, bonded by magnetic forces; after the analysis of space
observations; after I found crude errors in the LHC safety documents,
my assessment of the global disaster has surpassed dozens of percents.


----------------

Microscopic magnetic holes created at the collider, will move to the
center of the Earth, absorbing the matter in their path. Eventually
they will merge together into a single and much stronger magnetic
hole. The thin shell of the Earth, together with us, will be ejected
into cosmic space, but the rest of the Earth will turn into an
electric current loop of several meters radius. For comparison, the
radius of a black hole of the same mass is 9 millimeters. 2/3 of
Earth’s mass will be transformed into magnetic field of magnetic hole,
and another 1/3 will be transformed into radiation and kinetic energy
of the rejected shell.

---------
Magnetic collapse is much more rapid than the gravity collapse. At the
process of magnetic collapse the nucleon turns such, that its magnetic
dipole moment becomes parallel to the magnetic dipole moment of a
trap. Gravity collapse needs displacing of a matter inside the
Schwarzschild radius. The time interval of neutrino registration at
neutrino observatories had proved the reality of magnetic collapse of
dying stars.

Now (December 2009) I am very confident that there are no black holes
in the Universe. But gravitational collapses are possible and
observable as powerful Gamma Rays Bursts (GRBs). At the moment then
mh’s and bh’s radii become equal, the rapid gravity collapse changes
the magnetic collapse. Gravity funnel becomes thinner and disappear.
Collapse ends by gamma rays burst and flattening the space, without
any black hole formed. The energy of gamma burst can be about 2/3 of
mc^2 of exploded star. A small fraction of matter, which was able to
survive, moves out from the place of explosion with high velocity.

Pulsars are not the neutron stars, but magnetic holes surrounded by
dense neutron shells. Neutrons have negative magnetic moments and as a
result they are repealed out from the magnetic hole, but attracted to
the hole by its huge gravity forces. So the neutron shell is situated
at the region where the magnetic and gravitational forces are equal.

Magnetic holes explain us the cause of several astronomical pulses:
gamma-bursts, huge radio jets, the annihilation lines of electron-
positron pairs, huge velocities of remnants of cosmic catastrophes,
the absence of civilizations which are older, than those, who can
build powerful colliders.

Several days ago (December 9, 2009) an article was published, - gamma
rays bursts are bourn in strong magnetic fields. That is one more
proving argument of magnetic holes. Huge Cosmic Explosions Fueled by
Magnetism http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/091209-gamma-ray-burst-magnet.html

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