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William Beaty

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Dec 15, 1994, 12:18:24 PM12/15/94
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The guys on KEELYNET BBS have made a preliminary announcement of
an overunity device based on a magnet and piezo resonance circuit.
This work is only a week old, so hard measurements are not complete.
They want everyone to take a look, try to replicate, see what's
going on. Instructions are below, and the GIF schematic is on my Web
page.

- Bill Beaty

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The following requires the file MRA.GIF also on KeelyNet. The file
MRA.ZIP contains both this file MRA.ASC and the image MRA.GIF.
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***** Please NOTE!!*****

This is a preliminary report that will be followed by updates with
more detail.Future versions will include various measurements of the
components used in the ciruit that is currently running.From all
appearances at this date, the circuit components will simply give
varying outputs and do not appear to be all that critical.

It was felt that this information should be released to the public as
rapidly as possible, rather than risk loss of the information or the
demo by 'circumstances' beyond our control.There have been too many
discoveries which have disappeared by not being openly shared.We
would rather risk being 'flamed' by other experimenters who actually
BUILD THE CIRCUIT than take the chance of the information being lost
by keeping it within a select group.

Our two primary fears are that someone will attempt to patent what is
intended to be a gift to humanity, possibly with an intent to profit
from others work or to lock it away, the other that it might be
suppressed in some other fashion.

Therefore, the widest possible distribution is requested, and
duplication attempted wherever possible.At the time of this
correction to the original file, we have confirmation as to the
numbers and others are working on the circuit on their own.Please
take this information in the spirit of how it is given, as a gift to
humanity.

The inventors are Joel McClain and Norman Wootan. You can contact
them via KeelyNet or directly.

The circuit is being tested at various levels and attempts at
duplication are under way.At this point, there is only one circuit.We
will openly post other successful duplications or failures.Please
feel free to try it yourself.The cost is minimal.

One other point, the crystal transducer was thought to be barium
titanate and there is reason to believe it is in fact titanium
zirconate.These are disc shaped, about 3" in diamter with a 1"
diameter hole in the center.The disc is about 3/8" thick and is
coated with silver on both sides.Thank you for your open-
mindedness.They are advertised in the back of many electronics
magazines for about $5 each.We have access to a small stock and might
offer them for experiments should people ask for them.

Good luck and SEIZE THE DAY!

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The Magnetic Resonance Amplifier (MRA)

Discovered and proven December 12, 1994 and shared with the world on
December 13, 1994

by Joel McClain and Norman Wootan

MRA is the Magnetic Resonance Amplifier.With low level ultrasonic
input signals, the MRA produces usable direct current power at levels
above unity. This circuit is based upon the work and theories of John
Ernst Worrell Keely, and is offered into the public domain in his
memory.

Without lengthy discussion about the ether, tetrahedral geometric
virtual rotation, mass aggregate resonance or the rule of nines, it
is possible to understand this circuit as basically a tuned magnetic
and quartz amplifier.

However, it WAS necessary to study those subjects in order to design
and build the MRA, so if you want to fully realize how it works,
avail yourself of the files on KeelyNet which contain all of that and
much, much more.

In the schematic, MRA.GIF, there is a tunable low power oscillator,
which supplies a signal to one side of a barium titanite
transducer.The opposite side of the transducer is connected to a
primary coil, which is wrapped around a barium ferrite magnet
core.The opposite end of the primary goes back to the oscillator.

A secondary is wrapped around the primary, and is connected to an
ordinary bridge rectifier, and the output of the bridge is applied to
a DC load.A filter capacitor can be used on the output of the bridge,
and was used on the MRA which we built.Additionally, a load resistor
across the capacitor will keep the output DC from getting too high as
the circuit is tuned.We found that a 30 ohm, 10 watt resistor was
sufficient.

Once this has been assembled, put a voltmeter across the output
resistor to monitor the voltage rise as the circuit is tuned.Adjust
the oscillator frequency to provide the highest DC output.During this
process, be aware that the voltages across the piezo and the coil
will be VERY MUCH HIGHER than the signal level which you are
applying.We have seen combined voltages of almost 1000VAC with only
30VAC of signal input.

When the circuit is tuned, the magnet will be "singing" at around
8000 to 11000Hz.If the piezo sings, you are exceeding its power
capabilities, and will need to reduce the number of turns on your
primary.The frequency that resonates both the piezo and the magnet at
optimum resonance will be three times (three octaves above) the
frequency at which the magnet is singing. This is the nine harmonics
that are mentioned in the Rule of Nines.

To test the circuit, place a precision, high wattage, low ohm
resistor in series with the output from the oscillator to the piezo,
and measure the voltage drop.It should be very small, less than
0.1VAC.Use this value to determine current in the series circuit, and
then calculate power.

Next, measure the DC voltage across your output load resistor, and
once again calculate power.You should be between three to four times
above the previously calculated input power.

Once the circuit is in operation, you will note that the voltage will
vary by 0.1VDC or more, depending upon the time of day.This is due to
the nature of etheric forces inherent to the earth's magnetic
field.Watch for peak voltage at or before sunrise.

In our circuit, we measured 0.084VAC drop across a two ohm series
resistor, for a total of 0.685W dissipation in the primary.With this,
we attained 2.75W of output power, and used this to drive a lamp and
a motor.Increasing the signal voltage had the effect of decreasing
the primary current while boosting output power, thus improving the
power gain ratio.We believe that larger power systems can be built by
using larger coils, more piezos, and a lower frequency, as long as
the aggregate combination is within the resonant frequency range of
the components.

The MRA is essentially a means of releasing the electrical energy
stored in magnets.As such, it is an AC battery with DC output.It can
be used for a portable, self-charging power supply with a solid state
oscillator and rechargable battery.For those who want a synopsis of
the technology, the following paragraphs are offered, but it is
strongly suggested that you follow up this reading with a more
thorough study of the KeelyNet files.

Matter = energy.To change the matter, change the energy.Creating of a
magnet achieved by a process which causes the matter to be both
expanded and compressed at the same time, with the result that a
magnet is in a constant state of collapse.This is why magnets attract
material with similar lattice structures, as they attempt to fill the
energy void which created them.The "domains" of the magnet are fixed
after the process of magnetization, and the only way to extract
electrical energy is to physically spin a coil relative to a magnet.

However, it is also possible to induce virtual rotation by applying
the resonant frequency of the magnet, which causes the lattices and
the domains to vibrate.However, the power required to do this is
greater than the energy released by the virtual rotation.Therefore,
it is necessary to increase the vibration without using excessive
current.

The piezo has a virtually inexhaustable supply of free electrons, and
it releases them when it is stressed.Using the piezo in series with
the primary coil will almost eliminate primary current, because it is
voltage which stresses the piezo, not current.Therefore, the piezo
can be stressed with very little actual power, and provide the
current to the primary coil, which vibrates the domains of the
magnet.

The piezo is the catalyst for the circulating current with the
primary coil. The circulating current is additive, and this is the
reason for the high potentials developed across both the piezo and
the primary coil.

It is at this point that resonance becomes important.You MUST have
three octaves of separation between the magnet resonant frequency and
the signal applied to the piezo.The circulating current is rich in
harmonics, and this is necessary for the operation of the circuit.

Although the circuit is simple, it utilizes the concepts of PHI, of
virtual rotation, of tetrahedral geometry, piezo and transformer
theory, and electrical knowledge.It is not suggested as a beginner
project as a result of the high voltages present.For engineers and
technicians of experience, it may be difficult to accept that the MRA
is above unity.The ramifications are emormous.Hopefully, it will help
to build a better world.
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Vangard Note

This device incorporates power multiplication principles using
multiple resonances as claimed by Keely and Hendershott.It also
corresponds in some ways with Floyd Sweet's VTA and Joe Parr's energy
spheres from pyramids.

Joel called Sunday night in an excited state.He and Norman took turns
explaining what they had achieved using this circuit.The power input
measurements were about 600mWatts and yet the circuit was generating
about 2.5 Watts on the output.Norman hooked up a DC motor and he said
it was spinning like crazy in addition to a light bulb glowing
brightly.

Norman was laughing and said they'd beat Harold Puthoffs' One Watt
Challenge as issued at the 1994 ISNE conference in Denver.This has
created quite a bit of excitement and Puthoff now has a FAX'd copy of
the circuit.No doubt it will be everywhere in a very short time.The
hope by Joel and Norman is that others will duplicate the initial
effect and be able to expand on it to derive useful power.

Sweet claimed something on the order of 1:3,000,000 over-unity.The
input power to his device was 10 VAC at 29uamps (290mWatts).The
output had been loaded to as high as 3,000 Watts.

The initial MRA circuit is something on the order of 1:5 and is
believed to be scalable.Joel says the coil he had wound around the
barium ferrite magnet was not in the least precision and he is of the
mind that a huge coil surrounding the magnet will produce a
proportional increase in power.

Early talks with various KeelyNetters about the Sweet circuit led
many of us to believe that Barium, when excited, rings for a long
time when the exciter is removed.At the ISNE conference, Don Watson
confirmed this with his analogy of glowing luciferase as found in
fireflys or other phosphorescent materials.A weak stimulation
continues to produce light for a time after the stimulation is
removed.

So, here is a wonderful opportunity to build a pioneering device.If
you have questions or suggestions, you may direct them to Joel
McClain or Norman Wootan at KeelyNet.

I think they both need to be commended for their willingness to share
what many would keep proprietary or die with the
secret
.............>>>Jerry

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MARSHALL DUDLEY

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Dec 16, 1994, 11:26:00 AM12/16/94
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bi...@eskimo.com (William Beaty) writes:

-> To test the circuit, place a precision, high wattage, low ohm
-> resistor in series with the output from the oscillator to the piezo,
-> and measure the voltage drop.It should be very small, less than
-> 0.1VAC.Use this value to determine current in the series circuit, and
-> then calculate power.

There are some real pitfalls in trying to make this measurement if you do not
have the proper equipment and knowhow. Measuring with a hand held ac voltmeter
is virtually guaranteed to give erroneous results. Most ac voltmeters are set
up to only measure sine waves, and if the wave is not a sine, then they can
give highly inaccurate results. Many do not measure RMS at all, but measure
the average and fudge for the "expected" RMS, assuming a sine wave. Also most
are set up for low frequencies, giving low readings for frequencies over a few
hundred hertz. Many digital meters sample at a 1/60 of a second interval to
average out one full cycle of a sign wave. This can also introduce errors if
the frequency is other than an exact multiple of 60 hertz. Lastly, there is no
guarantee that the voltage and current are in phase. Assuming a sine wave,
the final power would not be I*E but rather I*E*cos(a) where a is the angle
between the current and voltage. The only ways to make this measurement and
be reasonably certain of the results is to either use a scope to make the
measurements (and that only works well if both current and voltage are sine
waves), or to use a real time multiplying circuit that puts out a filtered DC
voltage proportional to the real time product of the voltage and current.

-> Next, measure the DC voltage across your output load resistor, and
-> once again calculate power.You should be between three to four times
-> above the previously calculated input power.

Once again there can be measurement errors unless the output is filtered.
Meters will give incorrect results for "pulsating" DC.

With the figures that were given, an efficiency of 500% gives plenty of excess
power to be able to drive the original oscillator in a self sustaining mode. I
would suggest seeing if this is possible. Another alternative is to measure
the DC power flowing into the oscillator since that is a rather easy
measurement to make. A decent oscillator should operate at better than 50%
efficiency, so if this is really an over unity device operating at 500%, that
should still give you over 250%. Only if this were done would one need to look
beyond measurement error for an explaination.

Marshall

John WINTERFLOOD

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Dec 16, 1994, 8:44:50 AM12/16/94
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William Beaty (bi...@eskimo.com) wrote:
: The guys on KEELYNET BBS have made a preliminary announcement of

: an overunity device based on a magnet and piezo resonance circuit.
: This work is only a week old, so hard measurements are not complete.
: They want everyone to take a look, try to replicate, see what's
: going on. Instructions are below, and the GIF schematic is on my Web
: page.

: - Bill Beaty

This device seems to be a simple resonant circuit consisting of a piezo
device (capacitor) wired in series with a coil wrapped around a magnet.
A secondary around the magnet picks up supposed excess energy from
somewhere which goes through a rectifier and is measured driving a load.

What is missing is details of how the power measurement was made. On
looking at some of the discussions we find a recommendation *not* to use
a 'scope as it causes "skew" (whatever that may be) and much better to
use a handheld multimeter. (Together with a heap of misunderstandings of
any theory and superstitious belief in magical effects and numbers).

So measuring the input power at 20-40Khz with a (cheap?) multimeter or
two and the output power (DC - no problem here), I am not surprised to
read that they get an O/I ratio of 12/1 or so.

One note suggests that you can't get over-unity if you drive it with a
square wave - I wonder if the particular input measuring meter works
more efficiently with a square wave!

On another subject, I find it hard to believe that ultrasonic frequencies
are propagating through a springy shaft and massive armature to
appear significantly on the low-impedance AC mains and upset several
industrial meters specifically designed for measuring the power and phase
factors of such equipment. (Refering to the Griggs device of course).
Anyone want to guess what the torsional resonant frequency is and then
use the w^2 ratio to work out the ultrasonic attenuation. Besides we
now have a torque sensor in the middle which should provide still more
vibration isolation (being more compliant that a solid shaft).

We're waiting on you Tom.


Gary Steckly

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Dec 17, 1994, 12:21:12 PM12/17/94
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MARSHALL DUDLEY (mdu...@brbbs.brbbs.com) wrote:

: bi...@eskimo.com (William Beaty) writes:
:
: -> To test the circuit, place a precision, high wattage, low ohm
: -> resistor in series with the output from the oscillator to the piezo,
: -> and measure the voltage drop.It should be very small, less than
: -> 0.1VAC.Use this value to determine current in the series circuit, and
: -> then calculate power.
:
: There are some real pitfalls in trying to make this measurement if you do not
: have the proper equipment and knowhow. Measuring with a hand held ac voltmeter
: is virtually guaranteed to give erroneous results. Most ac voltmeters are set
: up to only measure sine waves, and if the wave is not a sine, then they can
: give highly inaccurate results. Many do not measure RMS at all, but measure
: the average and fudge for the "expected" RMS, assuming a sine wave. Also most
: are set up for low frequencies, giving low readings for frequencies over a few
: hundred hertz. Many digital meters sample at a 1/60 of a second interval to
: average out one full cycle of a sign wave. This can also introduce errors if
: the frequency is other than an exact multiple of 60 hertz. Lastly, there is no
: guarantee that the voltage and current are in phase. Assuming a sine wave,
: the final power would not be I*E but rather I*E*cos(a) where a is the angle
: between the current and voltage. The only ways to make this measurement and
: be reasonably certain of the results is to either use a scope to make the
: measurements (and that only works well if both current and voltage are sine
: waves), or to use a real time multiplying circuit that puts out a filtered DC
: voltage proportional to the real time product of the voltage and current.

I agree with what Marshall is saying and until this thing is powering
itself I would suspect the AC measurement techniques are at fault.

One rather unsettling little note in Bill's last update on his web home
page though. It seems that Norm Wootan's device began to oscillate on
it's own in the middle of the night after he had shut down all his
equipment. He claims the high pitched squeal woke him up and he had to
dissassemble the circuit to get it to stop (?!). Before he
dissassembled the circuit his counter switched on his counter and
measured a 44kHz signal off the thing. To follow this story, check Bill's
updates on his WWW home page at http://www.eskimo.com/~billb

????

Gary

iv...@cc.usu.edu

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Dec 17, 1994, 5:36:39 PM12/17/94
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In article <D0v42...@eskimo.com>, bi...@eskimo.com (William Beaty) writes:
> blah, blah, resonance, blah, blah, virtual rotation, etc.

So, you're telling me that if I magnetize a tuning fork and use a little
kicker to start it vibrating, then hold coils next to the vibrating ends
of the tuning fork, I'll get more energy out than I put in?
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Dieter Britz

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Dec 18, 1994, 6:35:04 AM12/18/94
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On 17 Dec 1994 iv...@cc.usu.edu wrote:

> In article <D0v42...@eskimo.com>, bi...@eskimo.com (William Beaty) writes:
> > blah, blah, resonance, blah, blah, virtual rotation, etc.
>
> So, you're telling me that if I magnetize a tuning fork and use a little
> kicker to start it vibrating, then hold coils next to the vibrating ends
> of the tuning fork, I'll get more energy out than I put in?
> --

No, that's not enough. You must also zap between the coils; *then* you get
excess free-lunch.

-- Dieter Britz alias br...@alpha.kemi.aau.dk

Laurie Forbes

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Dec 19, 1994, 12:29:51 PM12/19/94
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John WINTERFLOOD

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Dec 19, 1994, 3:16:00 PM12/19/94
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Gary Steckly (gste...@dgim.doc.ca) wrote:
: One rather unsettling little note in Bill's last update on his web home
: page though. It seems that Norm Wootan's device began to oscillate on
: it's own in the middle of the night after he had shut down all his
: equipment. He claims the high pitched squeal woke him up and he had to
: dissassemble the circuit to get it to stop (?!). Before he
: dissassembled the circuit his counter switched on his counter and
: measured a 44kHz signal off the thing. To follow this story, check Bill's
: updates on his WWW home page at http://www.eskimo.com/~billb

I didn't think anyone could *hear* 44kHz, never mind be woken up by it!

Frequency counters usually have very sensitive inputs and will often give
a reading even when not connected to anything. If they are connected to
a resonant circuit they will readily respond to the noise in the circuit
which will have a peak at the resonant frequency. If I remember correctly
he said the frequency reading was not steady tending to suggest a poor
signal to noise ratio - ie no appreciable power.

I'm waiting for news of some more careful measurements before I even take
second look.

Bruce Hamilton

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Dec 19, 1994, 4:20:40 PM12/19/94
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In article <D12J9...@nucleus.com> lfo...@nucleus.com (Laurie Forbes) writes:
>
>
>

Wow!. That _really_ is *secret*.
Anyway, does a nuclear fusion device count as an "over unity" device?.

Bruce Hamilton

Thomas S. Zemanian

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Dec 19, 1994, 4:14:59 PM12/19/94
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In article <B.Hamilton....@irl.cri.nz>, B.Ham...@irl.cri.nz
(Bruce Hamilton) wrote:

> In article <D12J9...@nucleus.com> lfo...@nucleus.com (Laurie Forbes) writes:
> >
> >
> >
>
> Wow!. That _really_ is *secret*.

Actually, it's a Taoist approach to the problem. By putting nothing into
the process, any and all output is "over unity". The device is not
contentious, and hence, none can contend with it.

--Tom

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ku...@imap2.asu.edu

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Dec 19, 1994, 3:33:55 PM12/19/94
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<*snip*>

: Sweet claimed something on the order of 1:3,000,000 over-unity.The

: input power to his device was 10 VAC at 29uamps (290mWatts).The
: output had been loaded to as high as 3,000 Watts.

I'll take one. Would you recommend I check Sears or K-Mart first?

--Lynn Kurtz

Laurie Forbes

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Dec 23, 1994, 11:39:03 PM12/23/94
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Thomas S. Zemanian (ts_ze...@pnl.gov) wrote:
: In article <B.Hamilton....@irl.cri.nz>, B.Ham...@irl.cri.nz
: (Bruce Hamilton) wrote:

: --Tom

Actually, the amazing revelations of the original post left me speachless.

Regards,
Laurie Forbes

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