The World Did End Last Week and Most of us Died!
Neil B.
posts to NG alt.fan.rawilson and Backreaction blog:
My subtle quantum psi powers* tell me that the LHC did indeed "destroy
the world" last week, but it doesn't matter anyway ...!? "The" world
didn't get destroyed because there are so many of them according to the
Everett-DeWitt "many worlds" theory of quantum mechanics. In the MW
theory, each instance of random possibility branches into entire new
universes expressing every option. (Like, whether Schrödinger's cat dies
or not at any given moment. BTW don't let decoherence sophists take the
mystery away.)
For example, suppose that the chance of LHC experiments to date
destroying the Earth is about 99.99%. You're ordinarily inclined to say,
"we" probably wouldn't have made it. (That's a unique "we" in one
universe, as conventionally imagined.) But suppose E-DW MW is true, and
me and readers of this post are just in a multiverse branch that
survived! The LHC may have already destroyed most Earths and "we" can't
tell the difference!
("Quantum suicide" [hint - you survive the attempt!]:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_suicide_and_immortality)
(* inside joke, including the asterisk)
Here's something you can try: set up a "cat" type arrangement to kill
you if McCain/Palin win the election, but leave you fully intact if they
lose (put aside recount scandals, heh.) Hence, even if they have a 99%
or whatever chance of winning, "you" (well, those versions of you that
get through) will survive and be able to enjoy an Obama-Biden
administration! Modify for any situation you don't want to put up with,
like today's big financial meltdown! You can even ensure you win the
lottery, etc.! Isn't that cool?!
The genuine logical problems for scientific method, expectation issues,
etc. in this regard mean that maybe MW is BS after all ...But a man, or
woman, can dream; or what's a heaven or multiple worlds for?
Uncle Al
>
> Here's my humorous take on science and politics, modified from my recent
> posts to NG alt.fan.rawilson and Backreaction blog:
>
> My subtle quantum psi powers* tell me that the LHC did indeed "destroy
[snip]
"All the Myriad Ways" Larry Niven, 1968.
So sad.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2
Benj
> My subtle quantum psi powers* tell me that the LHC did indeed "destroy
> the world" last week, but it doesn't matter anyway ...!? "The" world
> didn't get destroyed because there are so many of them according to the
> Everett-DeWitt "many worlds" theory of quantum mechanics. In the MW
> theory, each instance of random possibility branches into entire new
> universes expressing every option. (Like, whether Schrödinger's cat dies
> or not at any given moment. BTW don't let decoherence sophists take the
> mystery away.)
FINALLY! Someone in these newsgroups with a decent understanding of
modern physics! That's exactly it. All possible events have to be
considered including the ones in "alternative" universes. The world
ended yesterday, today, tomorrow, next year, it didn't end at all, it
never ends, it's all just probability. Real events never happen
anymore. What we do is sit around "adding arrows" [for those who
really don't wish to bring up names with unpleasant connotations like
"imaginary numbers"] So the world is clearly BOTH destroyed and not
destroyed at the same time! But of course the Pauli principle says
these two worlds can't both exist in the same space. But the modern
physics solution is SO SIMPLE! It's called "DoubleThink". Just so long
as you never let mutually exclusive ideas touch each other, both can
exist and you can truly believe in both of them at the same time! One
day soon everybody will be thinking like this. It's the future.
Ignorance is Strength!
Llanzlan Klazmon
Has anyone checked if Switzerland is still there. ;-).
Phil McGregor
<bill.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Has anyone checked if Switzerland is still there. ;-).
Would anyone notice the difference if it wasn't?
Phil
Author, Space Opera (FGU); RBB #1 (FASA); Road to Armageddon;
Farm, Forge and Steam; Orbis Mundi; Displaced (PGD)
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Marvin
>
<snip>So the world is clearly BOTH destroyed and not
> destroyed at the same time! But of course the Pauli principle says
> these two worlds can't both exist in the same space. But the modern
> physics solution is SO SIMPLE! It's called "DoubleThink". Just so long
> as you never let mutually exclusive ideas touch each other, both can
> exist and you can truly believe in both of them at the same time! One
> day soon everybody will be thinking like this. It's the future.
> Ignorance is Strength!
jerry warner
Dr Ivan D. Reid
> Has anyone checked if Switzerland is still there. ;-).
It'd better be, because I'm sitting in it! (CERN Restaurant 1,
to be exact; ain't WiFi wunnerful?)
As to whether LHC destroyed the world, at the moment it's more that
the world destroyed LHC. :-(
--
Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________ CMS Collaboration,
Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".
Roundtable
> On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:37:27 -0700 (PDT), Llanzlan Klazmon
> wrote in <6b0eeef9-c290-4885-ac8e-0d62a583f...@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>:
>
> > Has anyone checked if Switzerland is still there. ;-).
>
> to be exact; ain't WiFi wunnerful?)
>
> As to whether LHC destroyed the world, at the moment it's more that
> the world destroyed LHC. :-(
>
> --
> Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________ CMS Collaboration,
> Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch] Room 40-1-B12,CERN
> KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".
Don't worry guys, Switzerland is still here - I live here - and those
guys at
CERN know exactly what they're doing, as they are never tired of
telling us.
They have everything under control, and as they are SCIENTISTS, they
are the only ones on the face of this earth who can read and write,
and
the rest of us are mere orang-utangs or, at best, Neanderthalers who
communicate with grunts, so leave it to them and STOP WORRYING,
Finally, someone is going to show us what it's really like to laugh on
the
other side of our faces, or what an ant feels like when he's sucked
into the vacuum cleaner.
Wow, would we want to miss that experience?
Yes.
RT