Logic Is?
extr...@hotmail.com
understand the principles of valid demonstration and inference. [a
proof is a convincing demonstration] - [Inference is the act or
process of deriving a logical consequence conclusion from premises]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demonstration_(proof)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inference
Mark Earnest
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Logic is being a smoothe operator of valid deductions, and the persuasion of
others to the same.
Marshall
> Logic is
"Logic is a little bird tweeting in meadow; logic is
a wreath of pretty flowers which smell bad."
Marshall
Mark Earnest
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You forgot... --Mr. Spock of Vulcan during the filming of "I, Mudd."
ZerkonXXXX
> Logic is the art and science of reasoning
boooo, this make it seem removed from normal everyday activity. It isn't.
Logic is innate to an aspect of human thought.
Michael Gordge
Frederick Williams
>
> Logic is the art and science of reasoning which seeks to identify and
> understand the principles of valid demonstration and inference.
One might say that it begins there, but those inferences take place
within one or other of a variety of systems and those systems can be
treated as mathematical objects and subjected to mathematical
investigation. That's when it gets interesting and difficult.
> [a
> proof is a convincing demonstration] - [Inference is the act or
> process of deriving a logical consequence conclusion from premises]
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demonstration_(proof)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inference
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From: extr...@hotmail.com
<<Logic is the art and science of reasoning which seeks to identify
and
understand the principles of valid demonstration and inference. [a
proof is a convincing demonstration] - [Inference is the act or
process of deriving a logical consequence conclusion from premises]>>
This partially describes "formal" or "mathematical" logic. There is a
vaster cosmic-wide logic---what Heraclitis called the Logos. As it
works in the natural minds of all organisms, it is natural logic.
There are only four sub-entities of this sort of logic: 1. Induction
(addition; placing particulars and/or subsets into larger set, or
"sum"; 2. Deduction (substraction; removing particulars or subsets
from a larger set), or the reverse process of 1. Aristotle found
these to be active in the human mind, but the deductive sort,
illustrated in the "syllogism," fascinated Medieval Scholastics, and
began the man-made form of "formal logic," now known as "mathematical
logic. It doesn't work that way in the Logos. 3. Crosspartitioning
of sets, where two or more subsets of a parallel order overlap in the
common features of their particulars; and 4., mutual exclusivity of
sets. This latter prevents unlike particulars from being
intermingled.
Crosspartitioning encourages maximum flexibility and creaivity; in
organisms, it encourages learning and adaptation. Mutual exclusivity
limits adaptation and prevents a free-for-all in which no organism
could survive. One example of natural mutual exclusivity is the
inability of separate species to mate, or, in the case of
subspeciation, the inability of mates to produce virile offspring.
Cosmologically, crosspartitioning is what is actually going on when
two or more gallaxies "collide," or "canabalize" one another. Mutual
exclusivity is exemplified in the failure of matter and antimatter to
ineract productively. It also prevents the ordinary electron from
merging with the ordinary proton, despite their attraction to one
another.
Cosmic logic keeps the order in the cosmos, yet is not itself
physical. It does not "occupy space" or time;i.e., it is not
spatially IN space, nor spatially OUT of space. Space-time applies
only to matter.
,
khtervola
No, logic as it is taught and studied in the university, is a
mathematical kind of model that seeks to pick some of certain
important characteristics of those things, but does not seek to do so
in the most descriptive manner possible. It just wants to know that if
a computer knows one scientifical kind of fact, what can it deduce
from it. What we with pictures of the world, enormous amounts of
experience, with a nature that has instinctual wisdom, what we humans
can deduce from the same facts is an entirely different thing. Logic
in the university is calculations, it is not understanding. It gets
its spirit from copying from the computers! Nothing to do with
thinking.
Michael Gordge
> On May 30, 2:41 am, extro...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > Logic is the art and science of reasoning which seeks to identify and
> > understand the principles of valid demonstration and inference. [a
> > proof is a convincing demonstration] - [Inference is the act or
> > process of deriving a logical consequence conclusion from premises]
>
>
> No, logic as it is taught and studied in the university, is a
> mathematical kind of model that seeks to pick some of certain
> important characteristics of those things, but does not seek to do so
> in the most descriptive manner possible. It just wants to know that if
> a computer knows one scientifical kind of fact, what can it deduce
> from it. What we with pictures of the world, enormous amounts of
> experience, with a nature that has instinctual wisdom, what we humans
> can deduce from the same facts is an entirely different thing. Logic
> in the university is calculations, it is not understanding. It gets
> its spirit from copying from the computers! Nothing to do with
> thinking.
What idiotic meaningless Kantian crap. Logic is the art or process of
non-contradictory identification and integration, its the check that
your ideas conform to reality / the law of identity.
Unless your mind is engaged in the process of trying to find and
eliminate contradiction in your ideas then you are not enaged in
THINKING but instead thats the process of mindless Kantian / mystical
whim worshipping.
MG
John Jones
> Logic is the art and science of reasoning which seeks to identify and
> understand the principles of valid demonstration and inference.
Ungrounded, unfounded, and circular.
dave
I’ve now come to the issue upon which rests the foundation of my
posts. I hope this helps. And the question is: Can all that we know
about the universe be equated with God, or more precisely—a divine
logical form? This is far from an original idea. The Greek
philosopher, Heraclitus, believed that a non-human intelligence, or
the Logos ordered everything. For Heraclitus, all the discrete
elements of the world were organized into a coherent whole. The
Stoics, picking up on this idea, turned the Logos into God—the God
that is the source of all rationality. But, those ideas were developed
some 2400 years ago. Can the Logos be equated with the universe and
all its elements today? I think it can! When the noted logician,
Alburey Castell, was confronted with a question similar to the one
above, he responded:
“Suppose the sciences divided into four major groups: the
mathematical, the physical, the biological, and social. Suppose the
philosophical disciplines also divided into four major groups:
metaphysics, epistemology, ethics and aesthetics. Where among these
does logic belong? Is it a fifth in either group? Or a subdivision of
some one of the eight divisions? It seems to me to be neither of
these, but somehow common to all divisions. The nerve of every science
and every discipline is inference, or argument. In every science and
every discipline two questions are always being asked, and their
answers sought: If these facts are granted, what follows? From what
prior facts do these follow? That is If P, then what? And, Upon what
does P rest?”
Michael Gordge
> extro...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > Logic is the art and science of reasoning which seeks to identify and
> > understand the principles of valid demonstration and inference.
>
> Ungrounded, unfounded, and circular.
You are, albeit accidentally, correct, pity you didn't attempt to
correct the Kantian idiot, perhaps thats because your version is
identical, ungrounded unfounded and circular, care to give it?
MG
Marv
reasoning, argument, induction,
deduction,inference,analysis,dialectics,clarity, accuracy,
precision..2:= connection, link, chain, relationship, association,
inevitablity.. So no one word is a absolute fact in
it's defining character..hime5484@webtv.net from N.J.
John Jones
> On May 31, 11:19 am, John Jones <jonescard...@aol.com> wrote:
>> extro...@hotmail.com wrote:
> identical, ungrounded unfounded and circular, care to give it?
>
> MG
Sink, prophylactic