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dott.Piergiorgio

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Oct 24, 2011, 9:27:57 PM10/24/11
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... the root of the definitively counter-intuitive current US security
colour code:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nike_Site_SF-88L_Missile_Control.jpg

I guess that aside the Latin "de gustibus et coloribus non disputandum
est" the relative position and colour choice of the big "alert status"
in this pic can shed some light on the origin of the rather confusing US
national security colour code....

(from the Ed Thelen's site is clear that the Nike batteries was so
diffused in CONUS,and manned by many rank-and-file for a long period, so
I can see the feasiblity of the hypothesis that someone much years later
find the pattern he became accustomed during his mil/NG days back then
the "most clear and natural")

Best regards from Italy,
dott. Piergiorgio.

mike

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Oct 25, 2011, 2:21:11 AM10/25/11
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On Oct 24, 8:27 pm, "dott.Piergiorgio" <chiedet...@ask.me> wrote:
> ... the root of the definitively counter-intuitive current US security
> colour code:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nike_Site_SF-88L_Missile_Control.jpg

for a condensed overview of the Nike launch,

http://www.techbastard.com/missile/nike/missilefire.php

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Ray O'Hara

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Oct 25, 2011, 10:08:17 AM10/25/11
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"dott.Piergiorgio" <chied...@ask.me> wrote in message
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> ... the root of the definitively counter-intuitive current US security
> colour code:
>
>


the oft ridiculed security coloe code went out the Chimpler.
It's main function was to try to scare people and divert attention from his
myriad failures and whenever there was an election a terror plot would be
thwarted and the color raised.
only the weak minded republican faithful were fooled.


dott.Piergiorgio

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Oct 25, 2011, 3:33:32 PM10/25/11
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well, I still prefer the "DEFCON countdown".... but I'm trying to look
outside the usage as smokescreen and find the (ir)rationale behind this
chromatic mess instead of the orthogonality and clearness of one-digit
integer numbers, DEFCON 5: all quiet, let's go picnic, DEFCON 3: Return
to barracks or aboard, DEFCON 1: grab arms, grind teeth and start to
pray, DEFCON 0: push the Big Red Evil Button and hope for the best.....

Dennis

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Oct 25, 2011, 4:11:57 PM10/25/11
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I agree.

I was wondering what the blue light on 'alert status' was. Maybe it's the
predecessor of the Blue Screen of Death? :-)

Dennis

Dalesql

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Oct 25, 2011, 8:57:49 PM10/25/11
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I think that the alert color codes owe more to Star Trek than the
Nike missile program.

--Dale

Andrew Swallow

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Oct 26, 2011, 2:01:38 AM10/26/11
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Star Trek took alert colours from the Army.

Andrew Swallow

mike

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Oct 26, 2011, 2:45:00 AM10/26/11
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On Oct 25, 3:11 pm, Dennis <tsalagi18NOS...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I was wondering what the blue light on 'alert status' was.  Maybe it's the
> predecessor of the Blue Screen of Death?  :-)

from the link upthread
_
As the target entered the range of the acquisition radar and the
missiles at each battery readied for launch, a "blue alert" status
sounded, signalling that all personnel should go to battle stations.
...
As the target came within range of the acquisition radar, the battery
control officer corroborated the target appearing on the plan position
indicator with the early warning plot data received from the Air
Defense Command Post. At this time, the alert status switched from
blue to red.
_


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Dalesql

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Oct 26, 2011, 7:31:43 AM10/26/11
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True. But I think a lot more of the politicians and political
hangers-on who were active in devising the system watched Star Trek than
were in the military, let alone in the army.

--Dale

Richard

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Oct 26, 2011, 7:46:26 AM10/26/11
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Wasn't Roddenberry Air Force?

dott.Piergiorgio

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Oct 26, 2011, 5:35:15 PM10/26/11
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Il 25/10/2011 22:11, Dennis ha scritto:

>>> the oft ridiculed security coloe code went out the Chimpler.
>>> It's main function was to try to scare people and divert attention
>>> from his myriad failures and whenever there was an election a terror
>>> plot would be thwarted and the color raised.
>>> only the weak minded republican faithful were fooled.
>>
>> well, I still prefer the "DEFCON countdown".... but I'm trying to look
>> outside the usage as smokescreen and find the (ir)rationale behind
>> this chromatic mess instead of the orthogonality and clearness of
>> one-digit integer numbers, DEFCON 5: all quiet, let's go picnic,
>> DEFCON 3: Return to barracks or aboard, DEFCON 1: grab arms, grind
>> teeth and start to pray, DEFCON 0: push the Big Red Evil Button and
>> hope for the best.....
>
> I agree.
>
> I was wondering what the blue light on 'alert status' was. Maybe it's the
> predecessor of the Blue Screen of Death? :-)

indeed an orange instead of blue will be saner, in this case the
sequence is white/yellow/orange/red whose can make sense, white being
"all quiet" (aside the obvious joke on French Nikes, if actually
existed..) and red being "hair-trigger alert"

Best regards from Italy,
Dott. Piergiorgio.

dott.Piergiorgio

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Oct 26, 2011, 5:39:17 PM10/26/11
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Il 26/10/2011 02:57, Dalesql ha scritto:

> I think that the alert color codes owe more to Star Trek than the Nike
> missile program.

Attribuiting to a member of the former US admin the same level of
creativity and/or ingenuity of the Big Bird of the Galaxy is an huge
blasphemy for every trekkie, I fear..... ;)

dott.Piergiorgio

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Oct 26, 2011, 5:43:13 PM10/26/11
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Il 26/10/2011 13:31, Dalesql ha scritto:

> True. But I think a lot more of the politicians and political hangers-on
> who were active in devising the system watched Star Trek than were in
> the military, let alone in the army.

Sincerely, I highly doubt that an republican politician or official can
actually like Star Trek, whose core ideology are rather opposite to the
republican/neocon/New american century ideology.....

(aside the rumored qui pro quo between Jeffries and some unnamed
politicos during the roll-out of the Enterprise shuttle...)
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