Re: the 99%

[Jonathan]

"casey" <jgkj...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:419837a5-aab3-4fa8...@p14g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 25, 4:48 pm, Roy Batty <turt...@fastmail.net> wrote:

> > Objections to the "ruling economic class", or "the
> > richest 1%", having undue influence on government
> > policies and that this situation reflects a "failure
> > of democratic representation" for the middle and
> > lower classes, or the "other 99%".
>
> > That's basically the argument.
>
> > As evidenced by the rich getting richer and the middle
> > class paying more and more: More on housing, more on
> > food, more on fuel, more on health care, more on
> > education, more on "luxuries" as in TV, etc WHILE these
> > companies and CEO's make more and more profits as the
> > economy is tanking!!! WTF!!! With people working two or
> >three jobs, if they can get a job, to make ends meet.
> > FREAKING STAND UP PEOPLE.


> And do what?


"First you've got to get mad!"

One of the greatest political speeches in movie
history still rings true today, and ...especially
for this movement.

"I'M A HUMAN BEING GODDAMMIT"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dib2-HBsF08


> Do you know why there is an economic crisis?

> Who caused it and how did they do it?

The Big Crash was the direct fault of our stupid
political leaders when they passed the massive
rescue bill in Oct of 2008. That set off a panic
in the markets where everyone that could sell
...sold. EVERYONE SOLD AT ONCE.

It didn't have to happen.

I publicly predicted the great crash the Friday
before it happened. The next week saw the biggest
sell-off in the /history/ of the stock market.

..................................................

On Friday Oct 3, 2008 9:11 pm I wrote....

"This is a typical panic-sell situation due to the massive
system wide uncertainty concerning mortgage debt.
The cliché "buy on the rumor, sell on the news"
most certainly applies I believe.

The 'news' in this particular panic is the rescue bill.
Which was just signed, making the next few weeks a sure
sell-off, and big time imho. People will look around the next
week or so asking ..."is it over, are we saved?"

"No, not really, nothing much has changed!"
Might be the reply.

And like a shotgun blast to a flock of birds, the panic-sell
will resume, ....and with a fervor not yet seen.
This kind of panic sells always have a false bottom
around half way down. For the Dow it {halfway down}was
just above 11,000, and the Nasdaq at around 2200.

The bottom will be around 8500 for the Dow, and
around 1700 for the Nasdaq ...imho.

I aint getting back in till then."

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.invest.stocks/browse_thread/thread/2b4730963cc1f09e/8005137b48612e9f?q=The+Stock+Market+Crash+author:jonathan

..............................................................

The following Monday the Dow closed down almost 400.
Tuesday saw the single largest drop in the Dow since 1937
dropping over 500 points for the day. And it dropped an
astonishing 950 points more by Friday to close the week at 8577.
The Nasdaq ended the week at 1690.

My prediction

Dow
77 / 8500 = 1% (error)

Nasdaq
10 / 1700 = .6% (error)

................................


And guess what set off the panic sell last month?
Yes, a big rescue bill. Both crashed came immediately
after the rescue bills. The difference is this time Wall
Street knew what would happen, yet asked for the
big rescue bill anyway.

Wall Street set off a panic, and cashed in on all the
cheap stock , by ...get this...encouraging our govt
to shower them with our money.

People should be furious, absolutely furious.




s


> jc

[Blash]

On Oct 25, 8:31 pm, "Jonathan" <wr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "casey" <jgkjca...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message

> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.invest.stocks/browse_thread/threa...

>
> ..............................................................
>
> The following Monday the Dow closed down almost 400.
> Tuesday saw the single largest drop in the Dow since 1937
> dropping over 500 points for the day. And it dropped an
> astonishing 950 points more by Friday to close the week at 8577.
> The Nasdaq ended the week at 1690.
>
> My prediction
>
> Dow
> 77 / 8500 =  1%  (error)
>
> Nasdaq
> 10 / 1700  =  .6%  (error)
>
> ................................
>
> And guess what set off the panic sell last month?
> Yes, a big rescue bill. Both crashed came immediately
> after the rescue bills. The difference is this time Wall
> Street knew what would happen, yet asked for the
> big rescue bill anyway.
>
> Wall Street set off a panic, and cashed in on all the
> cheap stock , by ...get this...encouraging our govt
> to shower them with our money.
>
> People should be furious, absolutely furious.
>
> s
>
>
>

> > jc- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

>

. . . yeah, blame is easy for the easyover crowd: turning the Stock
Market into a gambling casino had nothing to do with the way itis
now . . . a playboys' toy . . . yeah . . . poormans’ slaver . . .
yeah . . . are we having fun, yet . . . yeah . . . slavery is
fun . . . yeah . . . duh ?

Brother Nathanial:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Eb9bXwKXXw

+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
+ + + + + + + + + +

Truth will set you free John 8:32

+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
+ + + + + + + + + + + + +

copy to: alt.philosophy, alt.politics, sci.military.naval,
sci.space.policy, misc.invest.stocks

[Eugene Griessel]

On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 06:51:19 -0700 (PDT), Blash
<hairy...@fastmail.fm> wrote:

>Truth will set you free John 8:32

Wonderful quote from one of the least truthful of the gospel writers.

Eugene L Griessel

Monday is a hard way to spend one-seventh of your life

[Jim H.]

On Oct 26, 10:29 am, Eugene Griessel <eug...@dynagen.co.za> wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 06:51:19 -0700 (PDT), Blash
>

> <hairyha...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> >Truth will set you free John 8:32
>
> Wonderful quote from one of the least truthful of the gospel writers.
>
> Eugene L Griessel
>
>    Monday is a hard way to spend one-seventh of your life

I think it was in one of your great sig lines (maybe not) that I saw
the modern & correct version.

"The truth will set you free. But first it will piss you off."

Jim H.

[Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.]

Jim H. wrote:
>>>Truth will set you free John 8:32
>>
>>Wonderful quote from one of the least truthful of the gospel writers.

Least truthful? They were all truthful...Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

from God to them to us
;-)

[Lubow]

"Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <dr...@coldine.edu> wrote in message
news:JfKdnY4qqLT8_TXT...@supernews.com...

The Brothers Grimm were a lot more truthful

[Christopher A. Lee]

On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 15:47:16 -0400, "Lubow" <dynami...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

And a lot more useful. Particularly Jacob who was a pioneer in the
field of linguistics

[Lawyerkill]

On Oct 26, 3:32 pm, "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <d...@coldine.edu>
wrote:

Nonsense, we don't even know who wrote the books and the earliest
copies of Mark stop at 16:8 with the women running away.

[Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.]

Lawyerkill wrote:
> On Oct 26, 3:32 pm, "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <d...@coldine.edu>
> wrote:
>
>>Jim H. wrote:
>>
>>>>>Truth will set you free John 8:32
>>
>>>>Wonderful quote from one of the least truthful of the gospel writers.
>>
>>Least truthful? They were all truthful...Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.
>>
>>from God to them to us
>>;-)
>
>
> Nonsense, we don't even know who wrote the books

Luke wrote Luke.

now you know
;-)

[Hope Simmers]

On Oct 26, 1:32 pm, "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <d...@coldine.edu>
wrote:

Thank you for including the "winky" at the end. For a moment, I
thought you were serious with that swill!

Emoticonically yours,
Hope Simmers

[Lawyerkill]

On Oct 26, 4:50 pm, "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <d...@coldine.edu>

Why don't you forward your evidence to Biblical Archaeology Review and
Biblical Review if you have information on who the gospel were. Maybe
copy it to James Charlesworth I'm sure he would be very interested. I
think he's still at Princeton Theological Seminary.

If you believe your statements on faith, that's fine with me.

[Uncle Vic]

On Oct 26, 1:50 pm, "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <d...@coldine.edu>

Luke who?

--
Uncle Vic

[Tronscend]

"Uncle Vic" <vic...@inreach.com> skrev i melding
news:ff92ecfd-b4aa-4455...@v33g2000prm.googlegroups.com...

>
> Luke wrote Luke.
>
> now you know
> ;-)

> Luke who?

Luke who's here ...?

T

[Bill Reid]

Skywalker...in Lucas's original plan, the last three episodes
of "Star Wars" would take place hundreds of years in the future
of the middle three episodes, and cover how the Earth was
colonized by primitive remnants of the Rebel Alliance (this
would be funnier if I were actually kidding)...

---
William Ernest Reid (ridiculous of course, everybody knows
the Bible was written by Thetans per L. Ron Hubbard)

[Doc Smartass]

Uncle Vic <vic...@inreach.com> wrote in
news:ff92ecfd-b4aa-4455...@v33g2000prm.googlegroups.com:

Luke Perry?

--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Aimin' to Misbehave aa # 1939

Kooks! http://kookclearinghouse.blogspot.com/

Books! http://jw-bookblog.blogspot.com/

Tea Parties are for little kids.

[Father Haskell]

Luke, who was begat by Anakin.

[Lubow]

"Uncle Vic" <vic...@inreach.com> wrote in message
news:ff92ecfd-b4aa-4455...@v33g2000prm.googlegroups.com...

> Luke who?

I'll settle it with an offer you can't refuse.

Luca Brasi (played by former pro wrestler Lenny Montana aka "the Zebra
Kid").

[Father Haskell]

On Oct 26, 10:20 pm, Doc Smartass <FortbrickG...@yahoobrick.com>
wrote:

> Uncle Vic <vic...@inreach.com> wrote innews:ff92ecfd-b4aa-4455...@v33g2000prm.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 26, 1:50 pm, "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <d...@coldine.edu>
> > wrote:
> >> Lawyerkill wrote:
> >> > On Oct 26, 3:32 pm, "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <d...@coldine.edu>
> >> > wrote:
>
> >> >>Jim H. wrote:
>
> >> >>>>>Truth will set you free John 8:32
>
> >> >>>>Wonderful quote from one of the least truthful of the gospel
> >> >>>>writers.
>
> >> >>Least truthful?  They were all truthful...Matthew, Mark, Luke, and
> >> >>Jo
> > hn.
>
> >> >>from God to them to us
> >> >>;-)
>
> >> > Nonsense, we don't even know who wrote the books
>
> >> Luke wrote Luke.
>
> >> now you know
> >> ;-)
>
> > Luke who?
>
> Luke Perry?

Luke Warm.

[Olrik]

Luke Skywalker

[Zacharias Mulletstein]

"Bill Reid" <horme...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:dbfae0dd-46fc-421d...@a17g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...

> On Oct 26, 2:48 pm, Uncle Vic <vic...@inreach.com> wrote:
>> On Oct 26, 1:50 pm, "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <d...@coldine.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Lawyerkill wrote:
>> > > On Oct 26, 3:32 pm, "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <d...@coldine.edu>
>> > > wrote:
>>
>> > >>Jim H. wrote:
>>
>> > >>>>>Truth will set you free John 8:32
>>
>> > >>>>Wonderful quote from one of the least truthful of the gospel
>> > >>>>writers.
>>
>> > >>Least truthful? They were all truthful...Matthew, Mark, Luke, and
>> > >>John.
>>
>> > >>from God to them to us
>> > >>;-)
>>
>> > > Nonsense, we don't even know who wrote the books
>>
>> > Luke wrote Luke.
>>
>> > now you know
>> > ;-)
>>
>> Luke who?
>>
> Skywalker...in Lucas's original plan, the last three episodes
> of "Star Wars" would take place hundreds of years in the future
> of the middle three episodes, and cover how the Earth was
> colonized by primitive remnants of the Rebel Alliance (this
> would be funnier if I were actually kidding)...

Star Trek is stupid. It's for latent homosexual nerds who will never get
laid.

--
I am a Fundamentalist Christian Pentecostal Warrior for the One lamb virgin,
Jesus Christ.

[Father Haskell]

On Oct 27, 12:10 am, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> "Bill Reid" <hormelf...@gmail.com> wrote in message

Neener neener...

http://www.rmichelson.com/artist_pages/nimoy/Photos/Shekhina/gallery/87-18.jpg

[k...@kymhorsell.com]

In alt.philosophy Zacharias Mulletstein <zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
...
> Star Trek is stupid. It's for latent homosexual nerds who will never get laid.

It's only one step from seeing that single "stoopid" episode (or, gulp,
did you watch another one, too?) to dressing up and talking Klingon!

Go and confess all your sins to your minister BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!

(A little vigorous self-flagilation now will act as first aid.)

--
We believe there is not enough uranium production, either current or planned, to
satisfy reactor needs, initial core requirements and inventories for new reactors.
-- Adam Schatzker, analyst RBC Capital Markets

[Hail Clayton, Full Of Disgrace]

"Olrik" wrote in message news:j8al0d$15h$2...@dont-email.me...

Luke And Listen.

[Lubow]

"Lubow" <dynami...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:j8ahq1$lg9$1...@dont-email.me...

http://trialx.com/curetalk/wp-content/blogs.dir/7/files/2011/04/gcelebrities/Lenny_Montana-3.jpg

[William Mook]

Mario Savio
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=jHJLMU9Wptw

Unless you're free - the machine will be prevented from working at
all!

One answer is to tax the 1% at 1%.

If an agrarian society taxes land, and
an industrial society taxes production, and
a retail society taxes sales and income

What does a knowledge society tax?

??????????


Nobel Laureat James Tobin says you tax stock and currency
transactions.

Consider that last year the USA provided on its lands, in its
factories, offices and retail shops, $14.12 trillion in wealth.

Consider now that last year the USA in its stock markets traded $3.3
QUADRILLION in wealth.

If we taxed 1% at 1% - we would raise $33 trillion per year. This
would allow us to zero out all other taxes, pay off the national debt
in one year, and have $16 trillion left over.

Can Wall Street afford such a tax?

Yes! Today according to literature from major brokerage firms, the
transaction costs associated with trading stock amount to 4%.

According to recent insurance company findings and recent court cases,
stock traders are defrauded out of 0.8% of each transaction through
various means like look-back trading (the type Hillary Clinton got
rich on when dealing with Tyson) and other similar schemes.

So, yes Wall Street can afford it.

So, that's one thing we can do.

The other is to reign in military spending.

Emperor of the World
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcvjoWOwnn4

Chalmers Johnson - Speaking Freely
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPr_T7btVgA

[RayLopez99]

Have you read the books by Bart Ehrman on this issue?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_D._Ehrman

they are pretty good. He is a fundamentalist Christian turned
agnostic after his Baptist literal beliefs were shown to be false.
That's what happens IMO when you try to use the Bible as an mistake-
free text that has zero contradictions and is a work of science, as
the Creationists do. The Bible is not a mathematically precise
inerrant work.

RL

[Lawyerkill]

On Oct 27, 4:53 am, RayLopez99 <raylope...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 27, 5:16 am, Lawyerkill <Lawyerk...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 26, 4:50 pm, "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <d...@coldine.edu>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Lawyerkill wrote:
> > > > On Oct 26, 3:32 pm, "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <d...@coldine.edu>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > >>Jim H. wrote:
>
> > > >>>>>Truth will set you free John 8:32
>
> > > >>>>Wonderful quote from one of the least truthful of the gospel writers.
>
> > > >>Least truthful?  They were all truthful...Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.
>
> > > >>from God to them to us
> > > >>;-)
>
> > > > Nonsense, we don't even know who wrote the books
>
> > > Luke wrote Luke.
>
> > > now you know
> > > ;-)
>
> > Why don't you forward your evidence to Biblical Archaeology Review and
> > Biblical Review if you have information on who the gospel were. Maybe
> > copy it to James Charlesworth I'm sure he would be very interested. I
> > think he's still at Princeton Theological Seminary.
>
> > If you believe your statements on faith, that's fine with me.
>

> Have you read the books by Bart Ehrman on this issue?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_D._Ehrman

>
> they are pretty good.  He is a fundamentalist Christian turned
> agnostic after his Baptist literal beliefs were shown to be false.
> That's what happens IMO when you try to use the Bible as an mistake-
> free text that has zero contradictions and is a work of science, as
> the Creationists do.  The Bible is not a mathematically precise
> inerrant work.
>
> RL

I've read a few books by Ehrman. I've read, "Misquoting Jesus-The
Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why" by Ehrman, but I also
read, "Misquoting Truth - A Guide to the Fallacies of Bart Ehrman's
Misquoting Jesus: by Timothy Paul Jones. I've read a few hundred
scholarly books on both sides of the issue.and you are right, the
bible is not an inerrant work.

[Lawyerkill]

PS I read an interesting book a while ago, Quantum Questions-Mystical
Writings of the World's Greatest Physicist" by Ken Wilber. It has the
writing by Heisenberg, Schroedinger, Einstein, Jeans, Planck and Pauli
that talk about Mysticism. Writings like Pauli's "Embracing the
Rational and the Mystical, Planck's "The Mystery of Our Being",
Heisenberg's "The Debate between Plato and Democritus" etc..

[Lawyerkill]

PS (continued) That started me on Eastern mysticism and I'm currently
readinf a reissue of," The TAO of Physics" by Capra. This stuff is a
lot more interesting than the market.

[Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.]

Lawyerkill wrote:

> On Oct 26, 4:50 pm, "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <d...@coldine.edu>
> wrote:
>
>>Lawyerkill wrote:
>>
>>>On Oct 26, 3:32 pm, "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <d...@coldine.edu>
>>>wrote:
>>
>>>>Jim H. wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>Truth will set you free John 8:32
>>
>>>>>>Wonderful quote from one of the least truthful of the gospel writers.
>>
>>>>Least truthful? They were all truthful...Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.
>>
>>>>from God to them to us
>>>
>>>>;-)
>>
>>>Nonsense, we don't even know who wrote the books
>>
>>Luke wrote Luke.
>>
>>now you know
>>;-)
>
>
> Why don't you forward your evidence to Biblical Archaeology Review

Son, this is usenet, not BAR...if you've got something, post it.

(see logic fallacy, appeal to authority..you atheists are as dense, and dumb, as any)
;-)

[Lawyerkill]

On Oct 27, 8:30 am, "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <d...@coldine.edu>

Oh and about Mark 16:8, the earliest MS of Mark has no
resurrection,the original account by
Mark ended with Jesus' crucifixion and burial and does not include
Mark
16:9-20.

I refer you to , "Bible Review" (an authority)for August 2001 they
have an article, " To Be
Continued...The many endings of the Gospel of Mark."

Or you can debate that issue with world renown pseudepigraphic scholar
James H. Charlesworth (an authority) who points out that the only
ancient Greek manuscript that contains the entire New Testament , the
Codex Sinaiticus, did not include the Marcan Appendix.

[Lawyerkill]

On Oct 27, 8:30 am, "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <d...@coldine.edu>

Yes, I well aware that this is the usenet where any idiot can put DR.
before their name and Ph.D after their name and some other idiot would
believe it.

Yes, see logic fallacy. Telling you to present your evidence to BAR
is not an appeal to authority, talk about dense, geez!. And BTW, using
an authorities in an argument is not a fallacy in logic. If I was to
use BAR in an argument it is not an appeal to authority, because they
are an authority.

"Argumentum ad verecundiam (argument or appeal to authority). This
fallacy occurs when someone tries to demonstrate the truth of a
proposition by citing some person who agrees, even though that person
may have no expertise in the given area. For instance, some people
like to quote Einstein's opinions about politics (he tended to have
fairly left-wing views), as though Einstein were a political
philosopher rather than a physicist. Of course, it is not a fallacy at
all to rely on authorities whose expertise relates to the question at
hand, especially with regard to questions of fact that could not
easily be answered by a layman -- for instance, it makes perfect sense
to quote Stephen Hawking on the subject of black holes."

I can tell you are clueless both on logic and the bible.

BTW you're the one that claims that the gospels are true so it is your
burden of proof, I can simply deny your claims and I do.

[Lawyerkill]

On Oct 27, 8:30 am, "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <d...@coldine.edu>

BTW, do you own like 30 or 40 cats?

[Paul Madarasz]

On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 05:11:43 -0700 (PDT), Lawyerkill
<Lawye...@aol.com> wrote, perhaps among other things:

Something you might find interesting is _How the Hippies Saved
Physics_, by David Kaiser. It's a history of the "Fundamental Fysiks
Group", a bunch of young acid-dropping physicists in the 70s, of which
Capra was one.
--
"Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell."
-- Ed Abbey

[Paul Madarasz]

On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 14:45:55 +1000, "Hail Clayton, Full Of Disgrace"
<clay...@spamblock.com.au> wrote, perhaps among other things:

And now here's Luke, who beams with joy,
since he made Kate Mrs. Luke McCoy.

[Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.]

Lawyerkill wrote:
> On Oct 27, 8:30 am, "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <d...@coldine.edu>
> wrote:
>
>>Lawyerkill wrote:
>>
>>>On Oct 26, 4:50 pm, "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <d...@coldine.edu>
>>>wrote:
>>
>>>>Lawyerkill wrote:
>>
>>>>>On Oct 26, 3:32 pm, "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <d...@coldine.edu>
>>>>>wrote:
>>
>>>>>>Jim H. wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>>Truth will set you free John 8:32
>>
>>>>>>>>Wonderful quote from one of the least truthful of the gospel writers.
>>
>>>>>>Least truthful? They were all truthful...Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.
>>
>>>>>>from God to them to us
>>
>>>>>>;-)
>>
>>>>>Nonsense, we don't even know who wrote the books
>>
>>>>Luke wrote Luke.
>>
>>>>now you know
>>>>;-)
>>
>>>Why don't you forward your evidence to Biblical Archaeology Review
>>
>>Son, this is usenet, not BAR...if you've got something, post it.
>>
>>(see logic fallacy, appeal to authority..you atheists are as dense, and dumb, as any)
>>;-)
>
>
>

> Telling you to present your evidence to BAR
> is not an appeal to authority,

Son, you presented BAR (or readers) as authority who disagreed, inferring
this proves me wrong.

> talk about dense, geez!.

Exactly you usenet atheists.

> "Argumentum ad verecundiam (argument or appeal to authority). This
> fallacy occurs when someone tries to demonstrate the truth of a
> proposition by citing some person who agrees, even though that person
> may have no expertise in the given area.

Exactly you dim-witted putz, you 1) presented BAR as disagreeing, and 2) as
an authority (which you will now correctly back track on).

you fallicied twice
;-)

[Lawyerkill]

On Oct 27, 1:38 pm, "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <d...@coldine.edu>

Here is what I posted,

"Why don't you forward your evidence to Biblical Archaeology Review

and
Biblical Review if you have information on who the gospel were. Maybe
copy it to James Charlesworth I'm sure he would be very interested. I
think he's still at Princeton Theological Seminary. "

Show me where that is using BAR as an authority.

Now there was no back tracing at all. In my last post to you was
showing you how BAR and Charlesworth can be used as authorities under
the rules of logic, here's what you cut out of my post

"Of course, it is not a fallacy atall to rely on authorities whose

expertise relates to the question at
hand, especially with regard to questions of fact that could not
easily be answered by a layman -- for instance, it makes perfect sense
to quote Stephen Hawking on the subject of black holes.""

What does you understand about that?

And of course you have still not posted your evidence to prove the NT
is true.

If you get your head out of that, "Charlie Brown explains the NT" book
and pick up a real scholarly book on the subject maybe you would learn
something.

[Lawyerkill]

On Oct 27, 1:38 pm, "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <d...@coldine.edu>

Oh, I'm done wasting my time with you, but one last question, IS THIS
THE MAD HATTER?

[Lawyerkill]

On Oct 27, 1:20 pm, Paul Madarasz <paul.madar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 05:11:43 -0700 (PDT), Lawyerkill

> <Lawyerk...@aol.com> wrote, perhaps among other things:

>
> Something you might find interesting is _How the Hippies Saved
> Physics_, by David Kaiser.  It's a history of the "Fundamental Fysiks
> Group", a bunch of young acid-dropping physicists in the 70s, of which
> Capra was one.
> --
> "Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell."
>                 -- Ed Abbey                                                          

Thanks Paul, I just ordered the book from Amazon

[Roy Batty]

Yes. An interesting book.

[Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.]

how about here, son...

> In my last post to you was

> showing you how BAR ... can be used as authorities

you lying atheist putz
;-)

[Paul Madarasz]

On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:01:30 -0700 (PDT), Lawyerkill
<Lawye...@aol.com> wrote, perhaps among other things:

You're welcome!

[Father Haskell]

On Oct 26, 11:05 pm, "Lubow" <dynamitem...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Uncle Vic" <vic...@inreach.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ff92ecfd-b4aa-4455...@v33g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Luke who?
>
> I'll settle it with an offer you can't refuse.
>
> Luca Brasi  (played by former pro wrestler Lenny Montana aka "the Zebra
> Kid").

Luca, who lives up on the seventh floor.

[Dakota]

The idiot Mulletstein doesn't know the difference between Star Wars and
Star Trek.

[Dakota]

Real Ph.Ds rarely use both.

[Jeffrey Hamilton]

Lubow wrote:
> "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <dr...@coldine.edu> wrote in message
> news:JfKdnY4qqLT8_TXT...@supernews.com...

>> Jim H. wrote:
>>>>> Truth will set you free John 8:32
>>>>
>>>> Wonderful quote from one of the least truthful of the gospel
>>>> writers.
>>
>> Least truthful? They were all truthful...Matthew, Mark, Luke, and
>> John. from God to them to us
>> ;-)
>

> The Brothers Grimm were a lot more truthful

Dood, you left out JRR Tolkien, for shame !

cheers.......Jeff

[Zacharias Mulletstein]

"Dakota" <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
news:j8codq$9dm$2...@dont-email.me...

> The idiot Mulletstein doesn't know the difference between Star Wars and
> Star Trek.

They're both nerdy sci-fi movies for fat virgin homosexuals. They're one
and the same as far as I'm concerned.

--
I am a Fundamentalist Christian Pentecostal Warrior for the One lamb virgin,
Jesus Christ.

[-=DirtBag®]

These guys with a $10 religious degree from the Church of the Divine
mattress really like to puff about how they are something to behold.

My daughters dog has a Framed Ph.D in Religious Studies from the
prestigious Universal Life Church. He can marry you too I believe. He
charges a bone.

[Father Haskell]

On Oct 27, 9:57 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"

<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> "Dakota" <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:j8codq$9dm$2...@dont-email.me...
>
> > The idiot Mulletstein doesn't know the difference between Star Wars and
> > Star Trek.
>
> They're both nerdy sci-fi movies for fat virgin homosexuals.  They're one
> and the same as far as I'm concerned.

Nimoy photographs naked chicks for a living. He
gets more pussy than you ever will.

[Orval Fairbairn]

In article <4eaa11b2$0$1712$742e...@news.sonic.net>,

... but does have a PhD in psychoceramic theory and practice from the
Sam Houston Institute of Technology?

[Jonathan]

"William Mook" <mokme...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8577ed88-d27b-4f6e...@u10g2000prl.googlegroups.com...
> Mario Savio
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=jHJLMU9Wptw
>
> Unless you're free - the machine will be prevented from working at
> all!
>
> One answer is to tax the 1% at 1%.
>
> If an agrarian society taxes land, and
> an industrial society taxes production, and
> a retail society taxes sales and income
>
> What does a knowledge society tax?
>
> ??????????
>

>
> Nobel Laureat James Tobin says you tax stock and currency
> transactions.


For the bulk of traders, profits are already
taxed as income. And most people lose
money trading.


>
> Consider that last year the USA provided on its lands, in its
> factories, offices and retail shops, $14.12 trillion in wealth.
>
> Consider now that last year the USA in its stock markets traded $3.3
> QUADRILLION in wealth.


Concerning the amount of money changing hands, Mr Laureate
doesn't seem to understand that most traders trade the
same money over and over again. For instance, I just
looked it up, and my stock trading kitty has been traded
73 times in the last six months.

If you multiplied my little kitty by 73 it might
seem to be a great big number too. But it only
seems that way.


>
> If we taxed 1% at 1% - we would raise $33 trillion per year. This
> would allow us to zero out all other taxes, pay off the national debt
> in one year, and have $16 trillion left over.


I'm hoping an end to wars means the govt can focus on
cleaning up corruption with better oversight. Which can
translate to better and more sustainable growth.
And growth being the way to reduce the deficit and debt.

.

>
> Can Wall Street afford such a tax?
>
> Yes! Today according to literature from major brokerage firms, the
> transaction costs associated with trading stock amount to 4%.


Well, think about that. Most trading fees are from around $5 to $10
per trade. If $10 is 4% of my transaction, then the trade was
dealing with a transaction size of $250. Or 26 shares of Etrade stock.
Not exactly an institutional or hedge fund scale transaction.
More like some jr.high school kid fooling around with his or her
smart phone.

You're talking about taxing the very people that deserve it
the least.


>
> According to recent insurance company findings and recent court cases,
> stock traders are defrauded out of 0.8% of each transaction through
> various means like look-back trading (the type Hillary Clinton got
> rich on when dealing with Tyson) and other similar schemes.


>
> So, yes Wall Street can afford it.


Wall Street is part of the problem.
Taxing it to death doesn't fix it.
Wall Street needs to be made to follow
the straight and narrow.


>
> So, that's one thing we can do.
>

I believe the core of the world wide depression
is corrupt economic practices that a lack of oversight
and regulation has allowed. And I also believe the
current global depression has it's roots right
here in my home town of Miami.

And I think the story goes something like this....

In South Florida, the issue of the Everglades
restoration project came to a head, and it became
a perception that land would soon become scarce
in an already booming housing market.
People starting flipping mortgages down here
like they were trading stocks, never even moving in
and coming up with all kinds of screwy mortgages.

Housing prices spiraled and the corrupt practices spread
to the entire US mortgage industry. When that
bubble burst it took the stock market with it
in the largest crash ever. Our recession spread
into a world-wide depression, with one shoe
dropping after another overseas.

A crash so big we're only just now digging out.
It didn't have to happen.

Why did that problem cascade like that?
The so-called butterfly effect in real life!

The sign of a system stressed to it's tipping point.
Change is happening faster than can be absorbed.
Non-linear effects wax and wane, sending widely
different scales crashing against each other and
back again. A rumor here, and a trade there
and some nation goes bankrupt overnight.

All are clear signs of things to come.

In my hobby of Complexity Science the idea
is to look at how some system ...responds to
a disturbance. As a means of understanding
what's going on inside the system.

In particular to look for the butterfly effect
as the sign of approaching a system wide
transition point.

Change isn't linear or gradual, or the sum
total of a large number of small events.
Change in evolving systems actually take the form
of countless minor events, combined with the
rare Big One. Like an avalanche, an earthquake, or
intelligence suddenly evolving.

The 'Big Steps' appear suddenly, and cannot be exactly
predicted in advance. And they dramatically change
all that follows, making predicting the future just as futile.
However, when the so-called butterfly effect is seen, there's
something thing you can be certain of, that we're very near
one of those "Big Ones".

In the jargon, the sudden expansion into the
adjacent possible. For instance, animal life
might fully explore every niche of some
ecosystem, so that it's supporting all the life
it can sustain. Then along comes intelligence
and suddenly that very same ecosystem can
support orders of magnitude more life.

Intelligence creates new possibility space
that is wide open for sudden expansion.
A new dimension so to speak. The next
great evolutionary step. One niche leaps
into the next one, not walks
.
Huge steps, not gradual evolution.

Seeing the butterfly effect shows a big step
is approaching. We can no more predict what
that step will be than an animal could predict the
evolution of intelligence. It's futile to try to predict
emergent change in detail. Or what will happen
after the transition more than you can predict
the landscape after an earthquake.

Even though we can theoretically have no idea
what fate awaits humanity. We can say with
complete certainty two things.

The big change is coming soon, and it'll be
magnificent!


> The other is to reign in military spending.
>
> Emperor of the World

You'd rather trust the fate of the free world
to the UN? Or the EU? Or China?
None of them could gives a rat's ass if some dictator
comes along and slaughters half their people.
The UN gives them a seat at the table, while the EU
pays them to just go attack someone else.

The US can't police the entire world.
But the fact remains, without the US the
world would have no police at all.

The US won't have an military equal for
at least the next twenty years, or more.
Not even close. In the next five or ten years
the post 9/11 technological race will start
producing all kinds of new weapons.

People are gonna wake up one day and
see a global space-born attack system that
no one can hide from. Let alone see where
it came from. Things will just seem to explode.

And they'll wonder why no one said a thing
about it all these years.

All the turmoil with Iraq and the economy has
overshadowed a stunning leap in US military
technology and abilities since 9/11. While the
rest of the world has just been treading water.
The US has gone beyond just being the only
super power, to also being a generation ahead.

For instance.
http://www.afspc.af.mil/units/index.asp



> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcvjoWOwnn4
>
> Chalmers Johnson - Speaking Freely
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPr_T7btVgA
>

[RayLopez99]

On Oct 28, 1:23 am, Paul Madarasz <paul.madar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell."
>                 -- Ed Abbey                                                          

But a cancer cell is immortal. Find the secret of the cancer cell
that does not kill the host and you can make humans live as old as
Malthusian.

RL

[Free Lunch]

On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 14:53:39 -0700 (PDT), RayLopez99
<raylo...@gmail.com> wrote in alt.atheism:

There would be serious Malthusian problems if everyone were to live as
long as Methuselah.

[RayLopez99]

On Oct 28, 1:38 am, "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <d...@coldine.edu>
wrote:

> you fallicied twice
> ;-)

And you fellatio-ed many more times.

RL

[casey]

When cancer cells run out of nutrients due to over population they
DIE.


JC

[Lawyerkill]

On Oct 27, 2:26 pm, Paul Madarasz <paul.madar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:01:30 -0700 (PDT), Lawyerkill

> <Lawyerk...@aol.com> wrote, perhaps among other things:
>
> >On Oct 27, 1:20 pm, Paul Madarasz <paul.madar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 05:11:43 -0700 (PDT), Lawyerkill
> >> <Lawyerk...@aol.com> wrote, perhaps among other things:
>
> >> Something you might find interesting is _How theHippiesSaved
> >> Physics_, by David Kaiser.  It's a history of the "Fundamental Fysiks
> >> Group", a bunch of young acid-dropping physicists in the 70s, of which
> >> Capra was one.
> >> --
> >> "Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell."
> >>                 -- Ed Abbey
>
> >Thanks Paul, I just ordered the book from Amazon
>
> You're welcome!
> --
> "Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell."
>                 -- Ed Abbey

Paul I just finished reading, "How the Hippies Saved Physics". It's a
very interesting book, but I think it should be renamed, "How the
Werner Erhard(EST) Saved Physics". Oh and it's sad that a guy that
gets a PhD has to take a job washing dishes and another has to become
a night watchman.

[Paul Madarasz]

On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 10:52:22 -0800 (PST), Lawyerkill
<Lawye...@aol.com> wrote, perhaps among other things:

Yeah, I was surprised to see ol' fraudster Jack Rosenberg there, too.
And yes, very sad that Ph.D.s have to go begging for jobs.

[William Mook]

You are ignoring the spread between buy and sell, this is routinely 4%
per trade, and the reason most people lose money as you point out. A
1% Tobin tax that appeared in the spread would be invisible to
everyone and no one would notice it. If we passed a law that let
people take an additional 1% out legally, if they got rid of criminal
activity - like the 0.8% per trade JP Morgan stole from pension
accounts by 'look-back' schemes that organized the lows of the day to
pension accounts while putting the highs of the day in their pockets -
it might even end up reducing overall spread.

[Blash]

William Mook wrote on 12/14/11 7:27 PM:

> You are ignoring the spread between buy and sell, this is routinely 4%
> per trade

.....TRUE, if you follow inactive, thinly traded stocks.......
.....Not even close if you follow high volume stocks........
FYI, it's called bid & ask.......

[William Mook]

On Dec 14, 8:09 pm, Blash <bla...@comcast.net> wrote:
> WilliamMookwrote on 12/14/11 7:27 PM:

Right, and pension funds routinely pay a 0.8% added cost in fraud as
the transactions go through a 24 hour look-back and the pension
traders get shuffled into the lows of the day while the traders and
those who pay them kick back get shuffled into the highs of the day.
This has gone on for at least 30 years. Clearly if these folks can
steal 0.8% of all those trades they can afford to run an honest
operation and remit 1% taxes to the country they live in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbx0PlFxptE

[Blash]

William Mook wrote on 12/18/11 1:45 AM:

It's amazing the crap that people will believe if they see it on the
internet.......

[William Mook]

On Dec 18, 8:45 am, Blash <bla...@comcast.net> wrote:
> WilliamMookwrote on 12/18/11 1:45 AM:

It's amazing that you think this is a well-reasoned argument for
anything. lol.

[Blash]

William Mook wrote on 12/19/11 3:13 AM:

I'm sure that you have proof of these shenanigans going on beside that clip
made by a couple of unknowns.......there is a huge reward for
whistle-blowers.....now that you have exposed it, I'm sure it will be on the
news.......we'll be watching........

[William Mook]

On Dec 19, 10:23 am, Blash <bla...@comcast.net> wrote:
> WilliamMookwrote on 12/19/11 3:13 AM:

Whistle blowers die and the news media is controlled by the mafia who
is causing the problem.

Murder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lkt5zeYQ7-A

Murder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yitVN0vtpR4

Murder Nick Begich
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxvxpBnV5Rc&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLA04F33408FB8F205

Murder Paul Wellstone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mUzofHUEX8

Sibel Edmonds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHnIyGWEz_Y

[Brad Guth]

> Murder Nick Begich http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxvxpBnV5Rc&feature=results_video&play...

>
> Murder Paul Wellstone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mUzofHUEX8
>
> Sibel Edmonds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHnIyGWEz_Y

Oddly, it seems most of that oligarch Mafia is Semitic, or at least
they seem to consistently act/react as Zionist Semites.

Yes indeed, whistle blowers die or at best fade away. Only a few are
able and willing to risk everything in order to share as much truth as
they can manage to uncover.

http://translate.google.com/#
Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”

[Blash]

William Mook wrote on 12/20/11 11:20 PM:

Watch out for the "Black Helicopters"......they are watching YOU!!!

[William Mook]

On Dec 21, 9:09 am, Blash <bla...@comcast.net> wrote:
> WilliamMookwrote on 12/20/11 11:20 PM:

> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxvxpBnV5Rc&feature=results_video&play...

> > st=PLA04F33408FB8F205
>
> > Murder Paul Wellstone
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mUzofHUEX8
>
> > Sibel Edmonds
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHnIyGWEz_Y
>
> Watch out for the "Black Helicopters"......they are watching YOU!!!

There are no Black Helicopters in Christchurch.

In the Americas - um, sorry to say - not so much.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TAHBcWS1d4

[Blash]

William Mook felt the urge to cross-post the following to:
alt.philosophy
alt.politics
sci.military.naval
sci.space.policy and
misc.invest.stocks

> Right, and pension funds routinely pay a 0.8% added cost in fraud as
> the transactions go through a 24 hour look-back and the pension
> traders get shuffled into the lows of the day while the traders and
> those who pay them kick back get shuffled into the highs of the day.
>
> This has gone on for at least 30 years.  Clearly if these folks can
> steal 0.8% of all those trades they can afford to run an honest
> operation and remit 1% taxes to the country they live in.

Maybe this does go on in Christchurch.......
I don't think you have any first-hand knowledge of this going on in the rest
of the world, nor can you verify any name involved in this......The internet
is made up with people who make all sorts of accusations without having any
FIRST-HAND knowledge.....
I would love to see some of these wild stories backed up by FACTS!!!!

[Brad Guth]

Do you really think your religion and its puppet government has always
told us the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

Here's a fact: religion and their governments (with few exceptions)
have systematically lied to us from the very get-go.

[Blash]

Brad Guth wrote on 12/23/11 2:32 PM:

> Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / ³Guth Usenet²

That's a nice job of tap-dancing around the question......

[William Mook]

On Dec 22, 12:12 am, Blash <bla...@comcast.net> wrote:
> WilliamMookfelt the urge to cross-post the following to:

Haha - you reveal yourself to be a worthless liar Blash. I said Wall
Street not Wellington. So, now you're making shit up out of whole
cloth you freaking slime bag. For the record New Zealand is 1000x
more honest than the USA, because it can afford to be. Its not
trading hundreds of billions of dollars of drugs, running trillions of
dollars a year in fraudulent wars. lol. America is.

If you don't know about look-back fraud then you're not paying
attention.

Just look at what Harry Markopolus have said about Bank of New York
Mellon and State Street.

http://rmiglobal.org/2011/10/07/occupy-sesame-street-us-pension-theft-muppets-finally-in-the-crosshairs/

[William Mook]

On Dec 23, 3:40 pm, Blash <bla...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Brad Guth wrote on 12/23/11 2:32 PM:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 21, 9:12 pm,Blash<bla...@comcast.net> wrote:

> >> WilliamMookfelt the urge to cross-post the following to:

You're a freaking liar who makes shit up to hide the truth you
freaking scumbag! You gotta know that JP Morgan and others have
admitted to stealing 0.8% for the past 30 years through various
fraudulent scams like looking back on transactions for the day and
assigning the highs to their friends and the lows to their pension
accounts. That's how Hillary made a killing in trading chicken
futures with Tyson. Its idiotic people like you that let the crooks
get away with killing America. You should be ashamed of yourself, and
the sooner you and people like you are revealed for the scum that you
are and eliminated from any access to power, the quicker will be our
recovery you freaking lunatic.

[Blash]

William Mook wrote on 12/24/11 12:37 AM:

[Blash]

William Mook wrote on 12/24/11 12:37 AM:

It's too late for you.....WE ALREADY HAVE THE POWER!!!!
You are on our list!!!

[William Mook]

You over-estimate the difficulty of killing 6.5 billion people in 13
years. You will fail, famously.

[trigonometry1972@gmail.com |]

13 years? With the right virus likely weeks. Or are you thinking
Diety type intervention? Even then it depend of purpose, I suppose.
Or a 100 years of fracking gas, deep oil extraction and burning the
remaining easy coal
in power plants and the more difficult with some sort of in situ
extraction.

[Brad Guth]

On Dec 24, 3:12 pm, William Mook <mokmedi...@gmail.com> wrote:

Blash is another one of the insider bad-guys, so he/she has no other
option but to reply as scripted.

http://translate.google.com/#
Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”

[Brad Guth]

It's more like stomping around and shouting with arms waving.

http://translate.google.com/#
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