White History - White U.S. President slave owners
Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.
[note: February is Black History Month...so "tankfixer" wants some White History too, dammit]
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White History - White U.S. President slave owners
8 U.S. Presidents were slave owners while they were President
12 of the first 18 U.S. Presidents were slave owners.
The last sitting U.S. President as slave owner was Zachary Taylor (1849-1850)
The last U.S. President slave owner was Ulysses S. Grant (1869-1877)
Next: U.S. Presidents who actually spoke out against slavery, rather than looking
the other way or an occasional lip service remark ("discovered" years later)
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sadly, we still have racists (e.g. "tankfixer") here in usenet
;-)
--
Each person has an individual responsibility to determine if his actions are moral, and
no government or army may ever take that responsibility away.
definition:
murder - the unjustifiable and intentional killing of people, NO EXCEPTIONS.
Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.
>
> [note: February is Black History Month...so "tankfixer" wants some White
> History too, dammit]
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> White History - White U.S. President slave owners
>
> 8 U.S. Presidents were slave owners while they were President
> 12 of the first 18 U.S. Presidents were slave owners.
>
> The last sitting U.S. President as slave owner was Zachary Taylor
> (1849-1850)
> The last U.S. President slave owner was Ulysses S. Grant (1869-1877)
>
>
> Next: U.S. Presidents who actually spoke out against slavery, rather
> than looking
> the other way or an occasional lip service remark ("discovered" years
> later)
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> sadly, we still have racists (e.g. "tankfixer") here in usenet
> ;-)
the presidents:
www.understandingprejudice.org/slavery
Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.
> On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 10:13:09 -0800, "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D."
> <dr...@coldine.edu> wrote:
>
>
>>Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D. wrote:
>>
>>>[note: February is Black History Month...so "tankfixer" wants some White
>>>History too, dammit]
>>>
>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>White History - White U.S. President slave owners
>>>
>>> 8 U.S. Presidents were slave owners while they were President
>>>12 of the first 18 U.S. Presidents were slave owners.
>>>
>>>The last sitting U.S. President as slave owner was Zachary Taylor
>>>(1849-1850)
>>>The last U.S. President slave owner was Ulysses S. Grant (1869-1877)
>>>
>>>
>>>Next: U.S. Presidents who actually spoke out against slavery, rather
>>>than looking
>>>the other way or an occasional lip service remark ("discovered" years
>>>later)
>>>
>>>
>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>sadly, we still have racists (e.g. "tankfixer") here in usenet
>>>;-)
>>
>>the presidents:
>> www.understandingprejudice.org/slavery
>
>
> Who cares?
Who cares? Anyone interested in history, other than Fairy Tale History.
[snipped white guilt whining]
enjoy!
;-)
Jack Linthicum
> On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 10:13:09 -0800, "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D."
>
>
>
> >Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D. wrote:
>
> >> [note: February is Black History Month...so "tankfixer" wants some White
> >> History too, dammit]
>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >> White History - White U.S. President slave owners
>
> >> 8 U.S. Presidents were slave owners while they were President
> >> 12 of the first 18 U.S. Presidents were slave owners.
>
> >> The last sitting U.S. President as slave owner was Zachary Taylor
> >> (1849-1850)
> >> The last U.S. President slave owner was Ulysses S. Grant (1869-1877)
>
> >> Next: U.S. Presidents who actually spoke out against slavery, rather
> >> than looking
> >> the other way or an occasional lip service remark ("discovered" years
> >> later)
>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >> sadly, we still have racists (e.g. "tankfixer") here in usenet
> >> ;-)
>
> >the presidents:
> > www.understandingprejudice.org/slavery
>
>
> And it should be noted that you carefullly avoid mentioning the black
> rulers in Africa that captured and enslaved other black people and
> traded them on the slave market, which, back then was a major
> international business.
> So by your reasoning, Africans having their own shady history in
> regards to slavery are also undeserving of any historical notation
> other than they were slavers.
>
> And just what does any of your whiney bullshit have to do with
> aviation, the navy, the army, or vietnam (all off topic and irrelevant
> groups)?
>
> You trolls are all alike. You post as though you're seriously
> concerned about the topic but then purposely post to a multitude of
> irrelevant groups just to be assholes. Fucking losers.
Also a much larger percentage of free Blacks (28%) owned slaves that
did whites (1.4%). It was a status symbol.
Mac
>Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D. wrote:
>>
>> [note: February is Black History Month...so "tankfixer" wants some White
>> History too, dammit]
>>
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Considering your desperate claim to have a PH.D. from your alleged
University, why didn't you mention Woodrow Wilson in your little
screed?
Especially those little "jokes" he used to tell.
And his removing many Blacks from Civil Service.
And, perhaps his efforts at Segregating the military.
-Mac, the Medic
Daryl Hunt
The Military WAS segregated. It wasn't until Truman that the newly
formed Air Force started the ball rolling. The other branches followed.
For instance, a Negro (that was the term then) could only hold certain
jobs. Like on a ship, they held the Cooks jobs but didn't get to fire
the guns. The AF had it's own black fliers that excelled. But even
then, the COs and such were all white. 1947 changed things.
Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.
> Mac wrote:
>
>> Woodrow Wilson efforts at Segregating the military.
>
>
> The Military WAS segregated. It wasn't until Truman that the newly
> formed Air Force started the ball rolling. The other branches followed.
>
> For instance, a Negro (that was the term then) could only hold certain
> jobs. Like on a ship, they held the Cooks jobs but didn't get to fire
> the guns. The AF had it's own black fliers that excelled. But even
> then, the COs and such were all white. 1947 changed things.
Yep.
rlspamsump
> Mac wrote:
> > On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 10:13:09 -0800, "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D."
> > <d...@coldine.edu> wrote:
>
> >> Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D. wrote:
> >>> [note: February is Black History Month...so "tankfixer" wants some White
> >>> History too, dammit]
>
> > ************************************
> > Considering your desperate claim to have a PH.D. from your alleged
> > University, why didn't you mention Woodrow Wilson in your little
> > screed?
> > Especially those little "jokes" he used to tell.
> > And his removing many Blacks from Civil Service.
> > And, perhaps his efforts at Segregating the military.
> > -Mac, the Medic
>
> For instance, a Negro (that was the term then) could only hold certain
> jobs. Like on a ship, they held the Cooks jobs but didn't get to fire
> the guns.
The bit about "didn't get to fire the guns" is demonstrably untrue.
You should do a little research before spouting the urban legends.
tankfixer
@c29g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, rlspa...@verizon.net says...
Doris ?Dorie? Mille, Navy Cross...
http://blog.usni.org/2010/01/19/first-african-american-hero-of-wwii-
graces-the-face-of-a-u-s-stamp/
"A gun crew of six Negroes who were given the Navy Cross for standing by
their gun when their ship was damaged by enemy attack in the Philippine
area." Crew members: Jonell Copeland, AtM2/c; Que Gant, StM; Harold
Clark, Jr., StM; James Eddie Dockery, StM; Alonzo Alexander Swann, StM;
and Eli Benjamin, StM. Ca. 1945. 80-G-334029.
http://www.archives.gov/research/african-americans/ww2-
pictures/images/african-americans-wwii-065.jpg
[The] tug YTM 466, operating out of the Mine Warfare School, Yorktown,
VA. Her captain is T. Perdue, Boatswain Mate 1/c..." May 17, 1945. 208-
NP-7QQ-4.
http://www.archives.gov/research/african-americans/ww2-
pictures/images/african-americans-wwii-091.jpg
Google is not Daryl's friend...
Ordie55
His Twisted Skew of history only serves his I Hate America Agenda!
African Americans have fought in every major conflict in which the
United States has been involved, from the Revolutionary War on. They
frequently served with distinction–the 54th Massachusetts Volunteer
Infantry during the American Civil War, the 9th and 10th U.S. Colored
Cavalry regiments during the Indian wars and the Spanish-American War,
and the 369th Infantry Regiment during World War I all established
outstanding fighting records.
http://www.historynet.com/african-american-92nd-infantry-division-fought-in-italy-during-world-war-ii.htm
Mac
<dr...@coldine.edu> wrote:
>Daryl Hunt wrote:
>> Mac wrote:
>
> Woodrow Wilson efforts at Segregating the military.
**********************************************
> The Military WAS segregated. It wasn't until Truman that the newly
> formed Air Force started the ball rolling. The other branches followed.
> For instance, a Negro (that was the term then) could only hold certain
> jobs. Like on a ship, they held the Cooks jobs but didn't get to fire
> the guns. The AF had it's own black fliers that excelled. But even
> then, the COs and such were all white. 1947 changed things.
***********************
>Yep.
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You might wish to take a little closer look at history.
What changes did Wilson make to the military?
And then, to correct those changes, what did Truman do?
ANYWAY, given the blathering of the alleged "Ph.D.", please notice he
has not replied to the specific statements pertaining to Woodrow
Wilson.
As for Darryl Hunt, perhaps it would help if he would check out the
history of that time period.
-Mac, the Medic
Eunometic
wrote:
To this day negroids are still fragging each other at an impressively
astounding rate and far more likely to be murdered by their own kind
than Whites by a large margin. White(male) on black rape is almost
unknown yet the Black on White rape rate is considerable. Blacks do
rape Black females however the worst outrages involving tormenting,
sexual mutilation and murder seems to be perpatrated on White
females.
Interestingly no one ever put that kind of thing into "roots" or other
forms of politically correct Hollywood Shute designed to put folks on
a preemptive politically corroect guilt trip.. Indentured White
labour was effectively slavery.
The Racial bias in these crimes would be More apparent but for the
diluting effect of cri
e in black neighbourhoods.
Ray O'Hara
"tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.25ce99b...@news.bytemine.net...
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Yes the NNavy allowed blacks to be AA gunners as WWII went along and the AA
fit was increased well beyond what peacetime planners expected.
but Adm Spruance didn't think blacks were capable of ever being as competent
as whites.
the blacks main job was being "mess boys".
Ray O'Hara
"Ordie55" <ord...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:2a8b1c08-9fa2-4ef8...@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
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all segregated units that had to fight to get equal treatement.
the 92nd was not the best equipped Division in the U.S.Army and the white
officers it was saddled with were not the cream of the crop.
Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.
Son, I know many "negroids" who aren't fragging or knifing each other, and
get along pretty well with others every single day, including White people.
You racists love to cull for some statistic that will support your warped mind,
and ignore any statistic or relevant idea you don't like.
btw, son, an indentured white servant was not even close to slavery
doncha like White History
;-)
tankfixer
oh...@hotmail.com says...
I notice you discarded the link of the harbor tug being captained by a
black petty officer...
Jack Linthicum
> "tankfixer" <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:MPG.25ce99b...@news.bytemine.net...
> In article <60a4bb29-bd8e-4053-a3cc-b824e7b67342
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 30, 4:29 am, Daryl Hunt <dh...@i70westnospam.com> wrote:
> > > Mac wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 10:13:09 -0800, "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D."
> > > > <d...@coldine.edu> wrote:
>
> > > >> Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D. wrote:
> > > >>> [note: February is Black History Month...so "tankfixer" wants some
> > > >>> White
> > > >>> History too, dammit]
>
> > > > ************************************
> > > > Considering your desperate claim to have a PH.D. from your alleged
> > > > University, why didn't you mention Woodrow Wilson in your little
> > > > screed?
> > > > Especially those little "jokes" he used to tell.
> > > > And his removing many Blacks from Civil Service.
> > > > And, perhaps his efforts at Segregating the military.
> > > > -Mac, the Medic
>
> > > For instance, a Negro (that was the term then) could only hold certain
> > > jobs. Like on a ship, they held the Cooks jobs but didn't get to fire
> > > the guns.
>
> > The bit about "didn't get to fire the guns" is demonstrably untrue.
> > You should do a little research before spouting the urban legends.
>
> graces-the-face-of-a-u-s-stamp/
>
> "A gun crew of six Negroes who were given the Navy Cross for standing by
> their gun when their ship was damaged by enemy attack in the Philippine
> area." Crew members: Jonell Copeland, AtM2/c; Que Gant, StM; Harold
> Clark, Jr., StM; James Eddie Dockery, StM; Alonzo Alexander Swann, StM;
> pictures/images/african-americans-wwii-065.jpg
>
> ==============================================================================
>
> Yes the NNavy allowed blacks to be AA gunners as WWII went along and the AA
> fit was increased well beyond what peacetime planners expected.
> but Adm Spruance didn't think blacks were capable of ever being as competent
> as whites.
> the blacks main job was being "mess boys".
Did a black man get a MoH for action on December 7, 1941?
Ordie55
More proof our Resident Racist/America Hater/ Navy General is WRONG!
tankfixer
846b4d...@r6g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, jackli...@earthlink.net
says...
Navy Cross as I noted above.
Doris "Dorie" Miller, Navy Cross...
http://blog.usni.org/2010/01/19/first-african-american-hero-of-wwii-
graces-the-face-of-a-u-s-stamp/
Richard Casady
<fr...@skeptictank.org> wrote:
>On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 10:13:09 -0800, "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D."
><dr...@coldine.edu> wrote:
>
>>Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D. wrote:
>>>
>>> [note: February is Black History Month...so "tankfixer" wants some White
>>> History too, dammit]
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> White History - White U.S. President slave owners
>>>
>>> 8 U.S. Presidents were slave owners while they were President
>>> 12 of the first 18 U.S. Presidents were slave owners.
>>>
>>> The last sitting U.S. President as slave owner was Zachary Taylor
>>> (1849-1850)
>>> The last U.S. President slave owner was Ulysses S. Grant (1869-1877)
>>>
>>>
>>> Next: U.S. Presidents who actually spoke out against slavery, rather
>>> than looking
>>> the other way or an occasional lip service remark ("discovered" years
>>> later)
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> sadly, we still have racists (e.g. "tankfixer") here in usenet
>>> ;-)
>>
>>the presidents:
>> www.understandingprejudice.org/slavery
>
>Who cares?
>
>And it should be noted that you carefullly avoid mentioning the black
>rulers in Africa that captured and enslaved other black people and
>traded them on the slave market, which, back then was a major
>international business.
>So by your reasoning, Africans having their own shady history in
>regards to slavery are also undeserving of any historical notation
>other than they were slavers.
>
>And just what does any of your whiney bullshit have to do with
>aviation, the navy, the army, or vietnam (all off topic and irrelevant
>groups)?
>
>You trolls are all alike. You post as though you're seriously
>concerned about the topic but then purposely post to a multitude of
>irrelevant groups just to be assholes. Fucking losers.
Yep. There, however is at least one fucking loser who has x-posted
only to Urban Legends, about navy legends. Drinking torpedo fuel for
example. It was either denatured to keep sailors in a dry navy from
drinking it, or beverage grade to keep highly toxic methanol out of
the air in a submarine.
Casady
Ray O'Hara
"Jack Linthicum" <jackli...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:ca8cfa3b-e7ae-4b73...@r6g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
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no Doris Green got the Navy Cross.
J
wrote:
> Also a much larger percentage of free Blacks (28%) owned slaves that
> did whites (1.4%). It was a status symbol.
Citation please...
Thanks . . . J
tankfixer
oh...@hotmail.com says...
Doris "Dorie" Miller
http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq57-4a.htm
"For distinguished devotion to duty, extraordinary courage and disregard
for his own personal safety during the attack on the Fleet in Pearl
Harbor, Territory of Hawaii, by Japanese forces on December 7, 1941.
While at the side of his Captain on the bridge, Miller, despite enemy
strafing and bombing and in the face of a serious fire, assisted in
moving his Captain, who had been mortally wounded, to a place of greater
safety, and later manned and operated a machine gun directed at enemy
Japanese attacking aircraft until ordered to leave the bridge."
Andrew Swallow
This is not impossible, free black frequently purchased other members
of their family. A free black could be kidnapped, moved to the next
state and sold into slavery. Keep the child or woman a slave and
the kidnapper became a thief. Sheriffs ignored kidnappers of blacks
but thieves were arrested.
Andrew Swallow