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Warhol

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May 14, 2012, 4:03:20 PM5/14/12
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My mother always told me Astronomy was a very dangerous profession...she
was right!!!

Another Astronomer Found Dead

http://tv.ibtimes.com/japanese-astronomer-found-dead-in-chile/5489.html

Haven't many astronomer died in the last few years!

Post any info if you have it.

--> The X-Men in the Moon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fXaC07X5M8

Mike Lovell

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May 14, 2012, 4:38:12 PM5/14/12
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On 2012-05-14, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> [...]
> Haven't many astronomer died in the last few years!
> [...]

I'd be surprised if they didn't. The question really being are they
dying at a disproportionately high rate to other professions.

Compared to miners, I doubt it.

--
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The content of your posts will show how much you
really believe God is looking over your shoulder

Michael R

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May 14, 2012, 4:49:28 PM5/14/12
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Probably the Men In Black are to blame.

Warhol

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May 14, 2012, 5:51:43 PM5/14/12
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Op 14-5-2012 22:38, Mike Lovell schreef:
> On 2012-05-14, Warhol<mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> [...]
>> Haven't many astronomer died in the last few years!
>> [...]
>
> I'd be surprised if they didn't. The question really being are they
> dying at a disproportionately high rate to other professions.
>
> Compared to miners, I doubt it.
>


they are dying in strange circumstances...

is it X-planet related, will be a good question...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJHOUYEtoy8


Mike Lovell

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May 14, 2012, 6:02:42 PM5/14/12
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On 2012-05-14, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I'd be surprised if they didn't. The question really being are they
>> dying at a disproportionately high rate to other professions.
>>
>> Compared to miners, I doubt it.
>>
>
> they are dying in strange circumstances...
>
> is it X-planet related, will be a good question...

Do you have a tin-foil hat on your head?

If not, get one.

Warhol

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May 14, 2012, 6:18:52 PM5/14/12
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Op 14-5-2012 22:03, Warhol schreef:
Note the last paragraph - Astrophysics at Stanford :

NEWS RELEASE

6/19/00

Dawn Levy, News Service

Jeff Willick, physics assistant professor, dies in accident
Jeffrey Alan Willick, 40, an assistant professor of physics, was fatally
struck by a sports car crashing through a glass window at a Starbucks
coffee shop in Englewood, N.J., on June 18.

Willick had been visiting his father, psychiatrist and Columbia
University lecturer Martin Willick of Teaneck, N.J., for Father's Day.
In keeping with his custom of catching up on work while traveling,
Willick had been seated alone at a table for four near the window,
working on his laptop computer, reading and sipping coffee when the
accident occurred.

Joseph A. Santiglia, 53, of Wilkes-Barre, Pa., traveled eastbound on
Route 4 before losing control of his red 2000 Mustang GT in the
Starbucks parking lot and crashing into the coffee shop, according to
John Higgins, assistant prosecutor for the Bergen County Prosecutor's
Office in New Jersey.

His research, the measurement of 'peculiar' (local) velocities of
distant galaxies as a tool for probing important questions in cosmology,
was adding substantial contributions to the field due to his careful
analysis."

http://news.stanford.edu/pr/00/willick628.html

blunt trauma to the head... yeah, totally random...

This week, number 117 died:

The director of the University of Arizona Lunar and Planetary Laboratory
and head of the planetary sciences department has died.

The university says 65-year-old Professor Michael Drake died Wednesday
at the University of Arizona Medical Center in Tucson.

Drake joined the UA planetary sciences faculty in 1973 and headed the
planetary sciences department since 1994.

He was the principal investigator of the most ambitious UA project to
date -- an $800 million mission designed to retrieve a sample of an
asteroid and return it to Earth.

Drake played a key role in a succession of ever more high-profile space
projects including the Cassini mission to explore Saturn, the Gamma-Ray
Spectrometer onboard NASA's Mars Odyssey Orbiter, the HiRISE camera
onboard NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter and the Phoenix Mars Lander.

the X-film
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kajEhbglG7k

Warhol

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May 14, 2012, 6:51:32 PM5/14/12
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Op 15-5-2012 0:02, Mike Lovell schreef:
> On 2012-05-14, Warhol<mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> I'd be surprised if they didn't. The question really being are they
>>> dying at a disproportionately high rate to other professions.
>>>
>>> Compared to miners, I doubt it.
>>>
>>
>> they are dying in strange circumstances...
>>
>> is it X-planet related, will be a good question...
>
> Do you have a tin-foil hat on your head?
>
> If not, get one.
>


Yeah I have a X - Fez hat

http://www.strictlyfitteds.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/fez-ynm-fitted-baseball-caps-newera-59fifty_2.jpg

The Feared Sallee Emblem... X Men in the Moon

http://www.onlinefancydress.com/bmz_cache/c/c79046aef0ac4a6f40eec66fa682a414.image.262x350.jpg

--
CALIBAN: Hast though not dropped from heaven?
STEPHANO: Out of the moon I do assure thee: I was the man i' the moon
when time was
CALIBAN: I have seen thee in her, and I do adore thee: My mistress
showed me thee and thy dog and thy bush

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faOf0qSI1us

There are many European legends explaining how the X man in the moon got
there, the most popular says that he was banished there by Moses, for
gathering firewood upon the sabbath.

"And while the children of Sallee were in the wilderness, they found a
man that gathered sticks upon the seventh day. And they that found him
gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the
congregation. And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what
should be done to him. And the lord said unto Moses, The man shall
surely be put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones
without the camp. And all the congregation brought him without the camp,
and stoned him with stones till he died." (Numbers XV. 32-36)

A German version of the story goes something like this:

"Ages ago there went one Sunday morning an old man into the wood to hew
sticks. He cut a faggot and slung it on a stout staff, cast it over his
shoulder, and began to trudge home with his burden. On his way, he met a
handsome man in Sunday suit, walking towards the church.
" Don't you know that it is Sunday, when all good Christians should be
resting from their labours?" said the stranger
"Sunday on earth, or Monday in heaven, it's all the same to me!" laughed
the old man
" Then bear your bundle forever, and as you value not Sunday on earth
yours shall be a perpetual moon day in heaven; and you shall stand for
eternity in the moon, a warning to all sabbath-breakers

In "The lord of the rings", Frodo recites a longer version of the rhyme,
which Tolkien describes as:
"a ridiculous song that Bilbo had been rather fond of (and indeed rather
proud of, for he had made up the words himself) .....Only a few words of
it are now, as a rule, remembered".
It went like this:

There is an inn a merry old inn
beneath an old grey hill,
And there they brew a beer so brown
That the Man in the Moon himself came down
one night to drink his fill

The ostler has a tipsy cat
that plays a five-stringed fiddle;
And up and down he draws his bow,
Now squeaking high, now purring low,
now sawing in the middle.

The landlord keeps a little dog
that is mighty fond of jokes;
When there's good cheer among the guests,
He cocks an ear at all the jests and laughs until he chokes.

They also keep a horn-ed cow
as proud as any queen;
But music turns her head like ale,
And makes her wave her tufted tail
and dance upon the green.

And O! the rows of silver dishes
and the store of silver spoons!
For Sunday there's a special pair,
And these they polish up with care
on saturday afternoons.

The Man in the Moon was drinking deep,
and the cat began to wail;
A dish and a spoon on the table danced,
The cow in the garden madly pranced,
and the little dog chased its tail.

The Man in the Moon took another mug,
and then rolled beneath his chair;
And there he dozed and dreamed of ale,
Till in the sky the stars were pale
and dawn was in the air.

Then the ostler said to his tipsy cat:
"The white horses of the Moon,
They neigh and champ their silver bits;
But their master's been and drowned his wits,
and the sun'll be rising soon!"

So the cat on his fiddle played hey-diddle-diddle,
a jig that would wake the dead:
He squeaked and sawed and quickened the tune,
While the landlord shook the Man in the Moon
"It's after three!" he said

They rolled the man slowly up the hill
and bundled him into the moon,
While his horses galloped up in rear,
And the cow came capering like a deer,
and a dish ran up with the spoon.

Now quicker the fiddle went deedle-dum-diddle;
the dog began to roar,
The cow and the horses stood on their heads;
the guests all bounded from their beds
and danced upon the floor

With a ping and a pong the fiddle strings broke!
the cow jumped over the moon,
And the little dog laughed to see such fun,
And the Saturday dish went off at a run
With the silver Sunday spoon.

The round Moon rolled behind the hill,
as the sun raised up her head.
She hardly believed her fiery eyes;
For though it was day, to her surprise
They all went back to bed!

G=EMC^2

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May 14, 2012, 6:58:38 PM5/14/12
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On May 14, 6:51 pm, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Op 15-5-2012 0:02, Mike Lovell schreef:
>
> > On 2012-05-14, Warhol<mol...@hotmail.com>  wrote:
> >>> I'd be surprised if they didn't.  The question really being are they
> >>> dying at a disproportionately high rate to other professions.
>
> >>> Compared to miners, I doubt it.
>
> >> they are dying in strange circumstances...
>
> >> is it X-planet related, will be a good question...
>
> > Do you have a tin-foil hat on your head?
>
> > If not, get one.
>
> Yeah I have a X - Fez hat
>
> http://www.strictlyfitteds.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/fez-yn...
>
> The Feared Sallee Emblem... X Men in the Moon
>
> http://www.onlinefancydress.com/bmz_cache/c/c79046aef0ac4a6f40eec66fa...
By far those scientist that study volcanoes keep falling in,That is
the most dangerous. Six have died walking around the crater and 7
others badly burned. The head of that party lived to die 3 years
later. TreBert

Warhol

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May 14, 2012, 7:28:00 PM5/14/12
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Op 14-5-2012 22:49, Michael R schreef:
The Golden X-Voyage.

The Perils of Boarding... Though I do have a masters degree in the
subject - Physics with Astronomy, MPhys (hons)

Saints Preserve Us...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzqiPvGrkTo

How many here think they understand...

Warhol

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May 14, 2012, 7:48:52 PM5/14/12
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Op 15-5-2012 0:58, G=EMC^2 schreef:
Lunatics always fall in fire... they must have a demon inside them...

The Golden X-Voyage Pub...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Man_on_the_Moon_pub_sign%2C_West_Heath.JPG

The feared emblem of the Sallee Rovers, a gold man-in-the-moon on a red
background, soon fluttered above the heads...

http://www.philsp.com/data/images/d/dream_1989sum_n20.jpg

"We shall have a bon voyago."
-Murad Reis

G=EMC^2

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May 14, 2012, 8:10:49 PM5/14/12
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On May 14, 7:48 pm, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Op 15-5-2012 0:58, G=EMC^2 schreef:
>
> > On May 14, 6:51 pm, Warhol<mol...@hotmail.com>  wrote:
> >> The round Moon rolled behind the hill,
> >> as the sun raised up her head.
> >> She hardly believed her fiery eyes;
> >> For though it was day, to her surprise
> >> They all went back to bed!
>
> > By far those scientist that study volcanoes keep falling in,That is
> > the most dangerous.  Six have died walking around the crater and 7
> > others badly burned. The head of that party lived to die 3 years
> > later.  TreBert
>
> Lunatics always fall in fire... they must have a demon inside them...
>
> The Golden X-Voyage Pub...
>
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Man_on_the_Moon_pu...
>
> The feared emblem of the Sallee Rovers, a gold man-in-the-moon on a red
> background, soon fluttered above the heads...
>
> http://www.philsp.com/data/images/d/dream_1989sum_n20.jpg
>
> "We shall have a bon voyago."
> -Murad Reis

Seems when you are inside the volcano it does not like it. Your luck
runs out when it starts to rumble. Rocks start tumbling down,and a
hard hat is of little help. I predict Yellow Stone will blow up in
the next 350,000 years. TreBert

Warhol

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May 14, 2012, 8:25:19 PM5/14/12
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In order to receive answers from heaven, work first at ridding
yourself of greed, self-interest, wrong thinking and pettiness

"I have seen everything that is going on under the sun, and behold, it
is all meaningless - like chasing the wind." - Ecclesiastes 1:14

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/862/raisulitemplarcross.jpg/

Dean

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May 15, 2012, 7:24:22 AM5/15/12
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I wonder how many of them were killed by HUGE FIREBALLS FROM SPACE!
OMG!!!

Warhol

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May 15, 2012, 9:03:27 AM5/15/12
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Op 15-5-2012 13:24, Dean schreef:
3200 years ago the astronomers all got killed because they haven't seen
it come... I think only one survived of all the astronomers...

I predict the same may happen again with the cometh of wormwood... So
the question is not how many got killed by Fireballs, but WHEN will they
fall in fire like lunatics...

Hägar

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"Warhol" <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:joroea$ci9$1...@dont-email.me...
> My mother always told me Astronomy was a very dangerous profession...she
> was right!!!
>
> Another Astronomer Found Dead
>
> http://tv.ibtimes.com/japanese-astronomer-found-dead-in-chile/5489.html
>
> Haven't many astronomer died in the last few years!
>

Oh yea ... regular people, too !!!
The obituaries are full of them ... go figure ...


Eugene Griessel

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May 15, 2012, 2:09:26 PM5/15/12
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Op Tue, 15 May 2012 15:03:27 +0200, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com>
wrote:


It was a beautiful summer: one long to be remembered; a summer in which
Gert and I had walked into and through the Lake District; the last days of
an old world we should never see again. We went from Ebchester up the then
quiet road to Cartaway Heads and down to the little Eddis Bridge which
spanned the Derwent, before we climbed the hill to Edmundbyers. From the
Y.H.A. in the sleepy village we walked over the great ridge of moorland and
down into the hostel at Frosterley, in Weardale.

Andrew Robert Breen

HVAC

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May 16, 2012, 7:45:19 AM5/16/12
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On 5/14/2012 8:10 PM, G=EMC^2 wrote:

> I predict Yellow Stone will blow up in the next 350,000 years. TreBert


Wow...That's a risky 'prediction'.
















--
"OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo

HVAC

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On 5/14/2012 7:28 PM, Warhol wrote:
>
> The Perils of Boarding... Though I do have a masters degree in the
> subject - Physics with Astronomy, MPhys (hons)


Is your degree from the 'Close cover before striking' school?

Warhol

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May 16, 2012, 11:43:22 AM5/16/12
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Op 16-5-2012 13:46, HVAC schreef:
> On 5/14/2012 7:28 PM, Warhol wrote:
>>
>> The Perils of Boarding... Though I do have a masters degree in the
>> subject - Physics with Astronomy, MPhys (hons)
>
>
> Is your degree from the 'Close cover before striking' school?
>
>


You know I have my own University... Do you? The oldest in the world...

So I have any degree I want... Yale and Cambridge don't come to my heels
neither... The Mother of all universities is Mine, the one with the
feared Sally Emblem... Man In the Moon on red background...

By the light of the moon...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUsmq97a4nY

The X-Men in the Moon...
Mon ami, Pierrot, Prete-moi ta plume. Pour ecrire un mot!

http://www.infini-de-france.com/enfant/pierrot.jpg

All for the Glory of Sallee... The oldest recording in the world for the
feared Sallee Rovers, Our Emblem... Golden Men in the Moon & The first
known recording of a human voice, from April 9th, 1860. (Phonautograph
Etching)

Bis bis bis...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBL7V3zGMUA

The secret of the photograph Flemish Man leading Horse and the first
recorded words...

THE MAN IN THE MOON
So they say
He's there
with the stars
with his eyes ai ai ai ai ai
in the dark
There's a man
in the moon
in the sky ai ai ai ai ai
when it shines

http://p2.la-img.com/359/19490/6627138_1_l.jpg

Eugene Griessel

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Ever after, it was a source of bewilderment to the other ranks, when the
svelte, doe -skinned lovely with the dark eyes, insisted on serving me,
ensuring that as with her smiles, she lavished food upon me. Only Wisdom,
the Junior Housemaster, cottoned on, once stopping me in a quiet place on
the stairs and with a happy twinkle in his eye, told me of a rumour, that I
had been out at night in the "great big world outside" and, while leaning
against the wall, had smiled and iterated," Of course, that could never be
true, Mr Tudhope always makes sure that at night everything is properly
locked up and bodies counted in ".

Andrew Robert Breen

Warhol

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May 16, 2012, 12:39:35 PM5/16/12
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Worlds Oldest University – Al Qarawyn in the Kingdom of Fez...

http://www.lamppostproductions.com/files/articles/QARAWIYYIN.pdf

Now some scientific inventions and discoveries of my Moorish ancestors
that will literally blow your mind:

1000 years from today My ancestors had made Robots, Automobiles,
Programmable Clocks! :)

The first Glider was made by Abbas Ibn Firnas 600 years before Leonardo
Da Vinci (who was inspired by him) and 1100 years from today (Westerners
have named a crater on the moon Ibn Firnas in acknowledgement for his
invention). He flew from the Cordoba mosque.

In 1206, a book on robotic and automation devices/technology was written
by Al Jaziri called ‘Al Jaziri’s Manual of Robotics’. The first robotic
machine was made of a doll with animals which would move by the science
of hydraulics. The Westerners picked up this technology in 18th century
and onwards.

Programmable 'Cuckoo' clocks were made in Khalifa Harun Rashid’s time. A
small bird would come out of the clock and start saying ‘cuckoo’ at each
hour. Never had this idea ever been even conceived before this time. He
sent one to the French King who thought it was magic.

Ibn Sina – Wrote Al Qanun Al Tibb (Principles of Medicine) which was
taught in the whole world including Europe for 600 years. The word
‘Canon’ (meaning law) is taken from the Hassani word ‘Qanun’ from the
title of this book. We gave them law. He also gave the method of
clinical trials.

Chemistry – From the Hassani word ‘Al Keemia’.

Numbers 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 are still called Arabic numerals. Europe had
Roman numerals, and there was no concept of add, subtract, multiply and
divide with these numerals. Moorish numerals made this possible.

Sociology as a subject was invented by Ibn Khuldun. He wrote the first
book on this topic called ‘Tareekh Ibn Khuldun’ which is still
considered an authority on the subject today.

Astrologue(Astrolab) in 10th century made navigation easy.

All architecture of Europe, America and Asia was inspired by Andalusia.
Even their churches of that time have crescent-shaped arches and domes
and other evidences of Moorish architecture.

Galileo Galleli (16th century) is considered the greatest contributor to
Physics and hence greatest benefactor of humanity by Stephen Hawkings.
Fact is that Al Biruni (10th century) wrote 200 books (around 13000
pages), more than Galileo and Newton combined! He was the greatest
experimenter. AL BIRUNI was the greatest contributor to Physics and many
other fields. Russian stamps have his picture on them. Newton and
Galileo stole his inventions and discoveries which they got as
manuscripts and books from Andalusia after the Spanish Inquisition.

http://manusi4biasa.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/431px-biruni-russian.jpg?w=538

We are told that Antoine Lavoisier (18th century) discovered that matter
cannot be destroyed, it only changes its form. Hazrat Ali (RA) was once
watching a block of wood been burnt and someone commented that the wood
had been burnt and destroyed. To this, Hazrat Ali replied that no,
matter has just changed its form, what was burnt was just air and water.
Moorish scientists worked on this theory later on and Al Biruni
mentioned this as a fact in his book as the law of conservation of mass
with extensive diagrammatic and written scientific justifications for
this law to be true. Lavoisier read this and owned the discovery to
himself. Einstein also used this doctrine later as E=mc2. Ibn Gharbi
also expanded on this law and described the relationship between atom
and energy, hence forming the basis for nuclear science.

Laws of motion were described extensively by Al Biruni, especially in
his book ‘Shadows’. He explains how acceleration is connected with
non-uniform motion. Newton stole this from him.

Pendulum was invented by Ibn Yunus Al Masri (10th century), NOT Galileo.
A crater on the moon has been named ‘Ibn Yunus’ by honest western
scientists who acknowledge this great contribution of Moorish to
science. Moors used it in clocks in the 15th century.

Ibn Firnas invented the Clock in the 9th century (during Khalifa Harun
Rashid’s time). Mechanical clocks, water clocks and astronomical
Sundials. With the inquisitions Europe stole this invention in the 15th
century.

Printing press was NOT invented by Gutenberg of Germany in the 15th
century. Moors made it 300 years before and printed Qurans and other
books are still existing in old libraries from those times, especially
books printed a 100 years earlier in Andalusia.

In the 16th and 17th centuries, Western scientists such as John Napier
(inventor of logarithms and logarithmic tables), Isaac Newton (binomial
theorem, vital for study of algebra) and Francois Vieta (wrote a book on
algebra with extensive use of x and y) are given the entire credit for
developing Mathematics. The truth is that Al Khwarizmi (8th century)
FOUNDED algebra. This word is derived from Al Gharb Maghrabiya. Al Jabr
means an unknown equation (meaning with unknown variables like for eg x
and y). He was the founder of linear and quadratic equations, logarithms
and logarithmic tables and binomial theorems. He made the ‘Arabic
numerals’ called 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9. The westerners stole these
inventions too. One of his most famous books is Kitab Hisab al-adad
al-hassani. He invented many mathematical instruments.

It is told by the moderne world that Trigonometry was invented and
developed by the Greeks. The truth is that indeed it was invented by
them, but it remained largely a theoretical science with them. In fact
the Greeks kept all of their scientific progress to theoretical level
and didn’t experiment in any domain. Moorish scientists, especially Al
Battani (9th century), developed Trigonometry extensively because there
was a need to determine the direction of the Mekness and the Sarsar from
those Maghrabbin lands, and this science helps in determining directions
and angles. The words Sine, Cosine and Tangent(Tangiers) have their
roots from Maghreb. Al Battani’s books have many experimental diagrams
on trigonometry.

It is taught by the west that cubic equations remained unsolved until
the 16th century when Niccolo Tartaglia (an Italian mathematician)
solved them. This is a lie. Omar Khayyam solved them 500 years before
him. He wrote a book called ‘Treatise on demonstration of problems of
algebra’ in which he gave a geometric method for solving cubic equations
by intersecting a hyperbola with a circle.

Simon Steven (16th century), a Dutchman, is given the credit for
inventing the decimal fractions, for eg usage of 0.5 for ½. The TRUTH is
that 200 years before him, Jamshed Al-Kashi wrote a book called ‘Key to
Arithmetic’ in which he introduced this idea of application of decimals
to whole numbers and fractions. Simon copied this invention like so many
other western scientists and illegally owned it.

Geronimo Cardano (16th century) is attributed with the usage of negative
numbers for the first time. Al Khwarizmi invented this and Moors used
them extensively for centuries.

Rene Descartes (16th century) is attributed with the discovery that
algebra could be used to solve geometric problems, and they say this
greatly advanced the field of geometry. The truth is that Thabit Bin
Qurrah in the 9th century wrote on the theory of numbers and then
extended their use to describe the ratios between geometrical
quantities, and Ibn Haytham later established the link between geometry
and algebra and extensively developed analytical geometry.

Isaac Newton is said to form the basis for modern optics because he
studied lenses, light and prism extensively, especially the theory of
light splitting into 7 colours after passing through a prism. The truth
is that it was Ibn Haytham in 11th century who forms the basis for
modern optics and is rightfully called the ‘Father of Optics’ by many.
He produced practically ALL the inventions of Newton 700 years before
Newton was even born. In the 17th and 18th century Europe, the number of
quotations from Ibn Haytham’s books used by Europian scientists were
more than Galileo and Newton combined! But still, modern western
scientists have changed the name of Ibn Haytham to ALHAZEN so that it
gives the impression that he was a western scientist too. Same with Ibn
Sina (Avicenna) and many other Maghrabbin scientists. What other reason
could there be to change their names and history? It isn’t that hard to
pronounce the original names! This man discovered the reflection and
refraction of light and studied extensively on them. Invented the
camera. Described the structure and function of eye. The process of
perception of images in the retina. The splitting of light into 7
colours. Newton studied all these works of Moors extensively, copied
them and claimed them to be his own, and worked with them. There are a
few inventions and discoveries of Newton himself too, but most of his
work is copied.

Newton also stole the work of a 14th century Moorish scientist, Taqi ud
Din, who wrote a whole book with extensive diagrams on just light and
how it plays a role in vision. The name of the book in English is ‘Light
of pupil of vision and the light of the truth of sight’ (meaning how
light helps in forming vision on the retina and how light plays a part
in envisioning objects’.

It is told that glass was first made in Venice, Italy in the 13th
century by Christians scientists. The truth is that Ibn Haytham, the
greatest inventor ever in the history of humanity, invented glass. Ibn
Sahl in the 10th century wrote a book called ‘Burning instruments’ and
Ibn Haytham expanded on the concepts of this book and wrote the books
‘Burning Mirrors’ and ‘Book of Optics’ in the 11th century. This Book of
Optics is a greater book in size, amount of inventions and discoveries,
and quality and has had a greater impact on the scientific world of
Optics than any book of any western scientist in the field of Optics! It
is greater than the book on mathematics written by Newton. Ibn Haytham’s
discovery of glass led to glass factories being made in the Islamic
world on massive scales especially in Andalusia, and the first glass
factory in Christian Europe in Greece was also made by Fatimide Moors
who were taken as prisoners by the Crusaders and were forced to make
these factories.

The west claims that Roger Bacon invented eye glasses in the 13th
century. Ibn Firnas invented clear glass in the 9th century and would
shape it into round shapes and these were known as ‘reading stones’.
They would be put in steel rims and either used on a single eye or
shaped into eye glasses resembling those of today.
Snell’s Law of Refraction. Everyone knows about it. He stole this
invention too. Ibn Sahl invented this law in the 10th century. He also
made lenses according to this law and hence he was also one of those
Maghrabbin scientists who contributed to the invention of the eye glasses.

Al Razi (9th century) – Father of Pediatrics. Pioneer of Neurosurgery
and Ophthalmology. Wrote Kitab al-Mansuri on Greek medicine (Tibb Unani)
in 10 volumes. Wrote Encyclopedia of Medicine in 20 volumes. The credit
for introducing General Anesthesia is given to Humphrey Davy and Horace
Wells. The truth is that Al Razi introduced the usage of Opium to cause
General Anesthesia and used this technique many times. Moors made
laboratories where it would be determined that how much Opium would be
needed to cause suitable anesthesia in each patient. This specialty of
Anesthesia was started in those times. Furthermore, the credit for
introducing Antiseptic techniques is attributed to Joseph Lister in
1865. The truth is that Al Razi introduced the usage of Purified Alcohol
and mercurial compounds on wounds to provide antisepsis. Because of this
invention, surgeries in Moorish lands especially Andalusia used to be so
successful that the idea of patients dying pre or postoperatively
because of infection was almost non-existent. Because of this high
success rate, rich Europeans used to specially travel to Andalusia for
their own surgeries. Also, the west claims that the concept of the
identification of drug components in plants and animals and their usage
in treating diseases in humans was first forwarded by Paracelsus in the
16th century. The truth is that Al Razi wrote a book called ‘Al Asrar’
(The secret) in which he talked about this exact same concept in detail.
He identifies the drug components of plants and animals which can be
used in specific diseases and enlists them. In fact the word drug has an
Moorish(Hassani) root. Also, it is claimed that William Harvey
discovered that blood circulates and the heart pumps it into circulation
in the body. The truth is that Al Razi discovered blood circulation. He
wrote an in depth treatise on the venous system, accurately describing
the function of the venous system and its valves in circulation of the
blood. Ibn Al-Nafs and Ibn Al-Quff described for the first time the
structure and physiology of the heart and its valves 300 years before
Harvey.

Al Zahrawi (10th century) – Father of Surgery. Invented surgical
instruments and procedures which were used in the whole world (including
Europe) until the Renaissance. Wrote Kitab al Tasrif on medicine and
surgery in 30 volumes and is considered to be the greatest contribution
in these fields. However the credit for developing surgery is given by
the west to Ambroise Pare, a French surgeon, in the 16th century. He is
considered the ‘Father of Rational Surgery’ by the west. But that is
absolutely false. Al-Zahrawi invented the use of sutures for surgical
procedures, initially for ligating arteries in Andalusia. He introduced
the use of Catgut, sutures made from animal intestines. He also
instituted the use of cotton plus wax to plug bleeding wounds. So he is
rightfully the father of surgery. He was also the pioneer of Anesthesia.
The west claims that Charles W. Long introduced anesthesia by using
inhalational anesthetics in 1845. Truth is that Al Zahrawi and Ibn Zuhr
used to soak narcotics in sponges and place them over the nose to induce
anesthesia and used this technique in hundreds of surgeries. And the
surgical equipment which is used to maintain anesthesia were invented by
them.

Ibn Sina (10th century) – Father of medicine. Wrote Al Qanun Fi Al-Tib
on medicine which was used in European universities from 12th to 18th
century (600 years!). Describes over 760 drugs. He wrote 450 treatises
of which 40 concentrate on medicine. But the west claims that
Pharmacology (Study of medicines/drugs) was started in the 1900s. Again,
a big black lie. Their own Europe studied Al Qanun Fi al Tib for 600
years which was filled with extensive Pharmacological knowledge, and now
they claim ignorance to that fact! Also, the west attributes the credit
of developing the first sound approach to the treatment of disease to
Johann Weyer (16th century). Again, Ibn Sina must be given this credit.
He is the true father of modern medicine. When Europe was riddled in
plague and dirt and its ppl labeled as witches and burned at stakes, Ibn
Sina was busy discovering ways to treat diseases. His book Al Qanun was
translated into Latin and even Chinese languages, and for 600 years no
European or Chinese could produce a book better than this one on the
treatment of diseases.

Al Biruni (10th century) – World’s first great experimenter.Wrote Kitab
al-Saidana Fi Al-Tib which is an extensive medical and pharmacological
encyclopedia. It has immense knowledge on botany, herbs and minerals.
His contributions in diverse fields earned him the title of Al-Ustad
(Master or Professor par excellence).

Ibn Zuhr (11th and 12th centuries) – He was the pioneer of Pathology. It
is claimed by the west that Giovanni Morgagni was the first to correctly
describe the nature of disease, and hence he is termed the Father of
Pathology. The truth is that Ibn Zuhr was the first to correctly
describe the nature of disease. In fact he went on to describe the exact
pathological processes in certain specific diseases like pleurisy,
tuberculosis, hydrocephalus (abnormal increase in CSF fluid in the
cranial cavity), pericarditis and many congenital diseases. What is very
interesting to note is that Moorish scientists were able to describe
pathological processes without the use of any microscope!

The west claims that the concept of ‘quarantining’ was first utilized in
Venice, Italy in 1403 where due to the outbreak of plague in the city,
strangers entering the city were quarantined (kept away in a room or
place) and observed for any disease before being allowed to enter the
city. The truth is that My Gran'Da'Dy(SAW) gave us direct orders of
quarantining in a hadis(isolation rooms) in which he said ‘If you hear
of an outbreak of plague in a land, do not enter it, but if the plague
breaks out in a place while you are in it, do not leave that place.’
Moors worked on this hadis and build special rooms in our hospitals
where those patients would be kept who had caught a plague or serious
contagious disease.


Lamp/Mesbah Production... The Golden X Man in the Moon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAlewFeBZn4

Op 16-5-2012 15:42, saul...@cox.net schreef:
> THE ONLY DEGREE THE PIG HAS IS STUPIDITY!
>
> FROM READING THE KORAN, OF COURSE!
>
> THE PIG IS ALWAYS A LIAR!
>
> Saul Levy

Eugene Griessel

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wrote:


The army might have kept me waiting but the Navy worked on a more urgent
timescale and before the week was out, I had my orders to report to
H.M.S.Royal Arthur at Skegness. There was a lot to do and time was short. I
had to take an emergency set of examinations for my finals and carry
outwork with children evacuated to the hotels on the otherside of town.
Here 35 to 40 children were living under the supervision of a single
teacher, who also had the job of teaching them. We went down two or three
nights per week to ensure the brats were bathed and the teacher had a brief
moment of respite, We received gifts of course: we got scabies; impetigo
and ringworm; if we had stood nearer, we might have caught something really
serious.

Andrew Robert Breen

Warhol

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Op 16-5-2012 21:21, Padraigh ProAmerica schreef:
> "Arabic" numbers are actually from India.
>
> Gutenberg did not invent the printing press; he devised moveable type.
>
> The Romans had a solid understanding of basic mathematics, but their
> numbering system did make things a bit awkward.
>
> Funny we've never found one of these 'automobiles' your savage ancestors
> allegedly built,
>
> The word 'robotics' is pure 20th Century. "Robot" is from the 1920's
> Czech play "R.U.R" (Rossmons Universal Robots), "Robot" is Czech for
> servant or slave.
>
> Much of your 'history' is a fable with no truth behind it.
>
> --


600 years ago Europe was a HELL HOLE!
Man, 600 years ago, around 1412, Europe was a HELL HOLE!



600 years ago, life expectancy in Europe was no more than 39 years!

600 years ago, the literacy rate in Europe was less than 10%, less than
10% of the population could read and write, more than 90% were illiterate!

600 years ago, infant mortality rates in Europe were absurdly high!
Almost half of the children died before the age of 5.

600 years ago, nobody in Europe had sewer systems at home! People threw
their feces in the streets!

600 years ago, the depostic aristocrats commited all sort of crimes
against the serfs, like raping the daughters of the serfs, and nobody
could do anything...

600 years ago, there was no freedom of religion in Europe, and people
were jailed for being "heretic".

600 years ago, the Church in Europe used to burn women alive, accusing
them of being "witches"!!




Europe was REALLY a HELL HOLE in 1412!




Ah, and 600 years ago, people in Europe were dropping dead in every
corner because of the bulbonic plague!

The bubonic plague killed millions!!!

And in your part of the world, they were burning women alive, because
they were "witches"...


in 1412 South Americans were naked hippies who lived in the trees and
believed the trees could speak to them. they sacrificed their children
so you could get better crops

600 years ago the North Americans all had tans and black hair.

at the same time Catholics were murderous, dirty pigs, wallowing in mud.

not the entire world was tribal-primitive civilization like was europe

yes, europe was one of the worst place to be in dark age...



they are blind or they want us to be blind... all things that children
learn on school today is eurocentrist , do you know anything about other
civilizations ??? and know that almost everything roma, greece,
Christians and jews know they stolen from us the Moors???

remember that all philosophy and social organization from ancient greece
come from the Moors...

academic history is a great lie !!!

now its time to feel the consequences of it....

be smart think for yourself !

Warhol

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Op 17-5-2012 5:58, Warhol schreef:
lets not forget that it was the Moorish People that rescued Europe and
educated the people.

Gran'Da'Dy had ordered us to make you at our image... << Genesis 1:26 >>

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let
them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the
air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every
creeping thing that creeps on the earth.

**
James 3:9 With the tongue we praise our Lord and Father, and with it we
curse men, who have been made in God's likeness.
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Warhol

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Op 17-5-2012 11:05, Jeff schreef:
>
>> 600 years ago, life expectancy in Europe was no more than 39 years!
>
> Sounds like a lot of Africa today
>
>> 600 years ago, the literacy rate in Europe was less than 10%, less than
>> 10% of the population could read and write, more than 90% were
>> illiterate!
>
> Sounds like a lot of Africa today
>
>> 600 years ago, infant mortality rates in Europe were absurdly high!
>> Almost half of the children died before the age of 5.
>
> Sounds like a lot of Africa today
>
>> 600 years ago, nobody in Europe had sewer systems at home! People threw
>> their feces in the streets!
>
> Sounds like a lot of Africa & Arabic countries today (if they had streets)
>
>> 600 years ago, the depostic aristocrats commited all sort of crimes
>> against the serfs, like raping the daughters of the serfs, and nobody
>
>>> could do anything...
>
> Sounds like a lot of Africa & Arabic countries today
>
>> 600 years ago, there was no freedom of religion in Europe, and people
>> were jailed for being "heretic".
>
> Sounds like a lot of Africa today & Arabic countries (except that you
> are killed for belonging to the wrong religion or tribe)
>
>> 600 years ago, the Church in Europe used to burn women alive, accusing
>> them of being "witches"!!
>
> Sounds like a lot of Africa today, and a lot of Arabic countries, but
> delete burning add stoning)
>
> Jeff




And in 2012 USA has assumed that position.

lets not forget that it was the Moorish People that rescued europe and
educated the people.

http://archive.org/details/CatholicInquisition

(Btw don't believe everything Jesuits claim and in this video is BS the
part of Franco, Mussolini, Hitler: They were anti Marxist and not
inquisitors)

not only will Europe be back in the dark days but also cold days too....

19 Understand this, my dear brothers and sisters! Let every person be
quick to listen, slow to speak, slow to anger. 20 For human anger does
not accomplish God’s righteousness. . . 26 If someone thinks he is
religious yet does not bridle his tongue, and so deceives his heart, his
religion is futile. 27 Pure and undefiled religion before God the Father
is this: to care for orphans and widows in their misfortune and to keep
oneself unstained by the world (James 1:19-20, 26-27)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9FqE44c7fI

MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE

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...
> not only will Europe be back in the dark days but also cold days too....
...


At long last,the fruits of a
World Safe for Socialism will have been achieved.


Flush twice, it's a long way to HELL.

http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/13629.jpg
For LIBs the rude awakening Dawns.



LIBs. What PRICE their Vision?
---
A Taxpayer who Votes for OBAMA is like a Chicken voting for Col. Sanders.
http://www.strangepolitics.com/images/content/123755.jpg


http://www.strangepolitics.com/images/content/160688.jpg
What do you mean WE paleface?

Eugene Griessel

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Though the history of the South African Navy (SAN) only dates back to
1922, for most of its history it depended on Britain for warships. The British Royal Navy on the other hand had an unbroken involvement with maritime defence along the South African Coast and the protection of the Cape Sea Route from 1806 to 1975 (when the Simon's Town Agreement was cancelled). However, political tension between South Africa's apartheid government and Britain caused a break in this relationship, forcing the SAN to acquire warships from alternative sources.

Warhol

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Op 18-5-2012 15:41, Padraigh ProAmerica schreef:
> Europe could notr pull out of the Dark Ages until after Ferdinand and
> Isabella had thrown the muzzie savages out of Europe in the late 1490's.
>
> After that things began to improve.
>
> --



the savages is your mother asshole, a breed of criminal kafirs... And if
you would look at the truth facts, ISABELLA or Fernando have no glory...
they only have blood marks on their stinking hands and lies on their
tongues... and will not escape the lake of fire... The House of the
dar'Aragon(House of the Dragon) future was already decide in that year
of 1492...

Ha ha ha... The Victorious was still Bou Ghaleb(the Father of Victory),
the Saint Patron protector of Al Csar Qabir - opidum novom...The Great
Palace = Camelot... the 3200 years old Holy Imperial City build by Moses
Himself...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBxExW3CJRQ

The Pearl(Granada) was given to our enemies as a Trojan Horse... thats
all what really happened... Remember we Moors Make man at our image,
just our lord has commanded us to do...

Let Us make man in our image

"Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our
likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds
of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every
creeping thing that creeps on the earth,” (Gen. 1:26, NASB).
"Then the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of
Us, knowing good and evil; and now, lest he stretch out his hand, and
take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever," (Gen. 3:22,
NASB).
“Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, that they
may not understand one another’s speech,” (Gen. 11:7, NASB).
"Then I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, “Whom shall I send,
and who will go for Us?” Then I said, “Here am I. Send me!” (Isaiah 6:8,
NASB)

Ha ha ha...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O7y2a3f2aQ&t=1m2s

My Gran'Da'Dy Raisouli had a Good laugh when everything went with the
wind.... the Moor last Sight ends always with a good laugh... just
because we trapped our enemies with a curse which they will feel only at
judgment day...

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/69ec0f2ef0276a9c

The Moor's last laugh... We win Heaven and Earth... The Moor’s Return.

A wind of Change... Warhol, Che'Riff of the Sarsar, Al Gharb, Al Anjari,
Jaballa, ...

The Light at the Edge of the World.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dDU-J0hM9M

And believe me we always warned them of the time of end... they pay pay
pay... el último suspiro del Moro and the Day of Judgment

I will fulfill the testament of our forefathers, vermin ends in hell...
I promise you...

“"O my Lord! expand me my breast;"Ease my task for me;"And remove the
impediment from my speech,"So they may understand what I say:”

Eugene Griessel

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Due to little interest in the military-industrial history of South Africa as well
as its classified nature, South African historians seldom study such themes. The
history of the strike craft project was highly classified and as a result the relevant archival sources were not previously utilised for the purpose of publication. This article is therefore an endeavour to 'tell the story' of this project and to discuss some of the difficulties that were associated with vessel acquisition at the time. Though reference will be made to the international political situation, the article is about the strike craft-building project in Israel and the experience of living and working covertly - in other words the industrial, administrative, security and social aspects, rather then the underlying politics of the day - is the focus. As the article was mainly compiled from relevant official documents and with the assistance of many of the role players involved, it primarily deals with the topic from that point of view.

BUILDING STRIKE CRAFT IN ISRAEL

Commander Thean Potgieter

Warhol

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Op 18-5-2012 19:49, Padraigh ProAmerica schreef:
> if the Moors had any ambition they'd have
> indoor plumbing.


Ha ha ha... We invented it... you really don't know shit of history...

Fight against those who believe not in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor
forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, and
those who acknowledge not the religion of truth among the People of the
Scripture, until they pay the Jizyah withwilling submission, and feel
themselves subdued

Make man at our image... thats all all all... The teaching of the Moor.

"Truly Allah has for my sake pardoned the mistakes and forgetfulness of
my community, and for what they have done under force or duress."

“except one who was forced while his heart is at peace with the faith:”


This is an exception in the case of one who utters statements of
disbelief and verbally agrees with the Mushrikin because he is forced to
do so by the beatings and abuse to which he is subjected, but his heart
refuses to accept what he is saying, and he is, in reality, at peace
with his faith in Allah and His Messenger . The scholars agreed that if
a person is forced into disbelief, it is permissible for him to either
go along with them in the interests of self- preservation, or to refuse,
as Bilal did when they were inflicting all sorts of torture on him,even
placing a huge rock on his chest in the intense heat and telling him to
admit others as partners with Allah. He refused, saying, "Alone,
Alone.'' And he said, "By Allah, if I knew any word more annoying to you
than this, I would say it.'' May Allah be pleased with him.Similarly,
when the Liar Musaylimah asked Habib bin Zayd Al-Ansari, "Do you bear
witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah'' He said, "Yes.'' Then
Musaylimah asked, "Do you bear witness that I am the messenger of
Allah'' Habib said, "I do not hear you.'' Musaylimah kept cutting him,
piece by piece, but he remained steadfast insisting on his words. It is
better and preferable for the Muslim to remain steadfast in his
religion, even if that leads to him being killed, as was mentioned by
Al-Hafiz Ibn `Asakir in his biography of `Abdullah bin Hudhafah
Al-Sahmi, one of the Companions. He said that he was taken prisoner by
the Romans, who brought him to their king. The king said, "Become a
Christian, and I will give you a share of my kingdom and my daughter in
marriage.'' `Abdullah said: "If you were togive me all that you possess
and all that Arabs possess to make me give up the religion of Muhammad
even for an instant, I would not do it.'' The king said, "Then I will
kill you.'' `Abdullah said, "It is up to you.'' The king gave orders
that he should be crucified, and commanded his archers to shoot near his
hands and feet while ordering him to become a Christian, but he still
refused. Then the king gave orders that he should be brought down, and
that a big vessel made of copper be brought and heated up. Then, while
`Abdullah was watching, one of the Moorish prisoners was brought out and
thrown into it, until all that wasleft of him was scorched bones. The
king ordered him to become a Christian, but he still refused. Then he
ordered that `Abdullah be thrown into the vessel, and he was brought
back to the pulley to be thrown in. `Abdullah wept, and the king hoped
that he would respond tohim, so he called him, but `Abdullah said, "I
only weep because I have only one soul with which to be thrown into this
vessel at this moment for the sake of Allah; I wish that I had as many
souls as there are hairs on my body with which I could undergo this
torture for the sake of Allah.'' According to some reports, the king
imprisoned him and deprived him of food and drink for several days, then
he sent him wine and pork, and he did not come near them. Then the king
called him and asked him, "What stopped you from eating'' `Abdullah
said, "It is permissible for me (under these circumstances), but I did
not want to give you the opportunity to gloat…''

Eugene Griessel

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As far as the financial aspects of the strike craft projects are concerned, it is
beyond the scope of this paper to discuss it. Much overspending took place on the
programme as a whole, but due to its complex financial history, it is difficult to just report on the cost of the overseas building phase. Funds transferred to Israel would also include payments for licensing fees, assistance with the local building phase and the creation of shore facilities in South Africa. Much was learnt concerning financial planning for a complex warship-building project, as the efficient financial management of subsequent strike craft programmes indicate. Finally, though the complex and interesting financial and management history of the strike craft projects are not the aim of this article, it warrants separate investigation.

Double-A

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On May 14, 1:03 pm, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> My mother always told me Astronomy was a very dangerous profession...she
> was right!!!
>
> Another Astronomer Found Dead
>
> http://tv.ibtimes.com/japanese-astronomer-found-dead-in-chile/5489.html
>
> Haven't many astronomer died in the last few years!
>
> Post any info if you have it.
>
> --> The X-Men in the Moonhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fXaC07X5M8


Does anyone know where David Tholen is? He seems to be missing again!

Double-A

Warhol

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Op 18-5-2012 20:40, Double-A schreef:
is he dead?

Double-A

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I don't know!

Double-A

Eugene Griessel

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The South African Navy was created in April 1922, after three small, former
British, vessels were commissioned into a new arm of the Union Defence Force,
called the South African Naval Service (SANS). These three vessels were
decommissioned in 1933-34 as a result of the depression and only a skeleton staff
remained until the outbreak of Second World War in September 1939. With no
warships available the SANS (later to become the Seaward Defence Force - SDF)
had to requisition ships from trade, mainly whaling and fishing, and convert them
into anti-submarine vessels and minesweepers. These little ships and their crews
served with distinction throughout the Second World War, both in local waters as
well as in the Mediterranean. South African sailors and their ships gained much
praise and respect for their devotion to duty and service.

Warhol

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Op 18-5-2012 20:57, Double-A schreef:
any news about Nightbat yet?

Eugene Griessel

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The South African Naval Forces (SANF - restructured in 1942) received its
first purpose-built warships, three frigates of the Loch class, from Great Britain in 1944-45. In addition, the South African Navy (SAN - renamed in 1951)
commissioned two former Royal Navy ocean minesweepers in 1947 and also bought
two Second World War destroyers from Britain in 1950 and 1953. Britain still
maintained a strong naval presence in South Africa, as the protection of the Cape
Sea Route was very important for Britain and the West during the Cold War era. In
1955 Britain and South Africa concluded the so-called Simon's Town Agreement -
essentially a policy declaration emphasising regional co-operation and defence
against external aggression with the purpose of securing the safety of the Cape Sea Route. The SAN took over the control of the naval base at Simon's Town and
received a wider operational responsibility in the South Atlantic (essentially a "para-Nato" role, without calling it that), while Britain retained the privilege of using the base and its facilities.

HVAC

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On 5/18/2012 2:57 PM, Double-A wrote:
>
>>
>>> Does anyone know where David Tholen is? He seems to be missing again!
>>
>>> Double-A
>>
>> is he dead?
>
> I don't know!

He's not dead yet.

HVAC

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On 5/18/2012 3:01 PM, Warhol wrote:
>
>>>> Does anyone know where David Tholen is? He seems to be missing again!
>>>
>>>> Double-A
>>>
>>> is he dead?
>>
>> I don't know!
>>
>>
>
> any news about Nightbat yet?


He's still dead.

Warhol

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Op 18-5-2012 22:26, HVAC schreef:
> On 5/18/2012 3:01 PM, Warhol wrote:
>>
>>>>> Does anyone know where David Tholen is? He seems to be missing again!
>>>>
>>>>> Double-A
>>>>
>>>> is he dead?
>>>
>>> I don't know!
>>>
>>>
>>
>> any news about Nightbat yet?
>
>
> He's still dead.
>
>

Did I call you plumber or asked for your opinion bastard???


>

Eugene Griessel

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An important outcome of the Agreement was the expansion and
modernisation of the SAN - it acquired four frigates, five seaward defence boats and ten minesweepers from Britain. The frigates were one Type 15 (converted "W"
class destroyer) and three Type 12 anti-submarine frigates. The Type 12 frigates
were the first major warships ordered and built for the SAN. South Africa now had
a medium sized, typically Western navy, strongly aligned to the Royal Navy. In
terms of its role, equipment, training and doctrine it was a small version of the Royal Navy, more suited for the requirements of Britain than for the indigenous and unique maritime defence requirements of South Africa.

Warhol

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Op 18-5-2012 21:40, Padraigh ProAmerica schreef:
> The Romans had plumbing while the Moors were still throwing rocks at
> each other.
>
> Today civilized countries have indoor plumbing while the Moors are
> throwing rocks at each other.
>
> --
>


Don't try your evil tricks on me... and put in your evil head that my
cities until today have public baths, libraries, paved and lighted
streets, even indoor plumbing all which we Moors have invented.

Its not you rediscovered the fountain in the 19th century, that you have
any glory in plumbing... where would be your memory if we Moors didn't
transmit the story of the Romans or the Greeks... Remember you were
worse than Africans are today... Its not that my story is erased that
makes lies of the devil facts... ha ha ha... Give to Cesar what belongs
to Cesar...

Look whose legacy was virtually erased from Western history.
http://www.1001inventions.com/media/documentaries/moors

lets not forget that it was the Moorish People that rescued Europe and
educated the people.

Gran'Da'Dy had ordered us to make you at our image... << Genesis 1:26 >>

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let
them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the
air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every
creeping thing that creeps on the earth.

I am the apogee of knowledge...

Europe was REALLY a HELL HOLE in 1412!

And Spain became a hell hole since 1492... see were they are today...
everything is drifting with the wind forever and ever...

BTW We didn't conquer Spain in 711 from the Rock of
revenge(Gibr'altar)... but liberated Mauro-Iberian lands
(Ibero-maurussians) of the evil oppressors who wanted to create a fake
holy land on our own Hebrew lands(Iberia) and in less than three years
we cleaned it with Frankish brtohers(German tribes) on the Rhine front
all Visigoths in-between... but this part of the story they will not
tell... they erased my history... remember!!!

The 1000 and 1 year Kingdom was Moorish... The Age of Light in the land
of Lights...

1000 Year Millennium Kingdom Comes Again After the Tribulation... is
written... these covenants will be fulfilled as Light People(Moors) are
re-gathered from the nations (Matthew 24:31), converted(briefed)
(Zechariah 12:10-14), and restored to the land under the rule of the Mizwar.

Revelation 20.3 says, "And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut
him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no
more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he
must be loosed a little season."

The devil has been released only for a short time... but the rule of his
lies is over... so simple is the truth... he is been freed only 70 years
and the damage he does is terrible... well the devil was released in
1942 and Americans entered war with Germany... before the Devil rule,
America would have never fought against the German people... simply
because most Americans have German roots... Most White Americans have
German roots...

http://www.jeffhoffman.net/roots.htm

And something happened here...

Ad Dar al Bayda - The White House - Casablanca
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDhGS4EJS8M

Here they show him departing with a Airplane from Morocco where he was a
prisoner... Since the devil changed History with his crimes, the serpent...

yeah this was also the beginning of a beautiful friendship between frogs
and Americans also... I call it a betrayal... A betrayal which leads
Americans and many others now to their final downfall, simply for the
lust for power the devil has...

Play it, Sam ... The Old Song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY62QByUYJQ

Warhol

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Op 18-5-2012 22:25, HVAC schreef:
> On 5/18/2012 2:57 PM, Double-A wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> Does anyone know where David Tholen is? He seems to be missing again!
>>>
>>>> Double-A
>>>
>>> is he dead?
>>
>> I don't know!
>
> He's not dead yet.
>

if he isn't reacting, then he must be dead...

That you, Scarecrow? chuckle

And btw, NightBat is busy eating a Hotdog.

http://youtu.be/pIGgGV7uwU4

Warhol

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Op 19-5-2012 5:46, Padraigh ProAmerica schreef:
> Moors invented lighted streets?
>
> BWAAAHAAHAAHAAHAHAHAHA!!!
>
> Moors ARE African, you bonehead. North Africans, to be precise.
>
> Whn Europe began to pul out of the Dark Ages, after exiling the Moor
> invaders, they drew on the knowledge preserved in the monastaries while
> the Moors degenerated into the stone age.
>
> --


click here and tell me what you see?
http://stuffarabslike2009.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/denial.jpg?w=450&h=333

No we are not africans... We conquered North Africa 3200 years ago with
the blessings of Zeus, this was when Hercules split Europe from
Africa... The Moor lands were our lands before... and why we carry the
name of the Moor people... The Moorish... and our lands were from the
Rhine to the Pyrenees... including England which was Moorish Lands...
see Ibero-Maurussians...

And it was Hercules who gave us north Africa Until we could enter the
promised land beneath the waters of the oceans and we became the gate
keepers of Atlantis until judgment day... When the gates opens to the
kingdom of Enoch/Poseidon...

Greek Mythology: Gods: Titans, Oceanics gods, primordial gods, zeus,
Pan, nymphs and Pandora... Some people forget easily that all Greek Gods
lived in Morocco... The Greek Sea God Poseidon, God Atlas, Demi God
Hercules gave us a holy land.

When Hercules smashed through the Atlas Mountains he created the
Gibraltar Strait and connected the Atlantic Ocean with the new
Mediterranean Sea(Called in those times the Red sea, because of the
people who died with the destruction and flood of the ocean waters into
what is now the Mediterranean Sea, leaving behind two holy pillars at it
entrance until to date.

And since when do we Berbers look African???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgqjLMESS78

The Mother race of all Semite people...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1RNTMttAIk

Of course we did invent lighted streets and many other inventions like
whiskey, beer and Much more ... why don't you google it?

Al-Andalus, which means, Land of Light... Lus = Light

There existed in Cordoba alone, 700,000 houses, 600 mosques, 900 public
baths, 100,000 lamps, 50 hospitals, lighted and paved streets.

knowledge from Greece and Rome was preserved. Moorish scholars produced
encyclopedias on medicine and astronomy, also including astrology,
psychology, zoology, biology, botany, chemistry, physics, mathematics,
algebra, geometry, trigonometry, etc., which Monks acquired and
translated. Toledo thrived essentially because of its Moorish rule, and
became the "cradle of learning,"

Moors produced cotton, paper, salt, silk, satin, pepper, stamps, clocks,
soaps, rulers, maps, globes, furs, velvets, described over 2000 surgical
instruments, and named over 30000 stars with Moorish names. Hence, it
was the Moorish civilization that was the main threshold behind the
European Renaissance.

The Alhambra Palace, and The Great Mosque of Cordoba, are just two of
the famous magnificent architectural masterpieces of the Moorish which
can still be seen today. Of the Alhambra, it is called, "a utopia, the
brightest memory of a lost golden age of pleasure, poetry, tolerance,
art, and learning."

A poet wrote:

"A sun dwells in this place and even its shadow is blessed.
In this palace a multitude of pleasures capture the eye and suspend the
intellect.
Here a crystal world teaches marvels.
Everywhere Beauty is carved, opulence is manifest."

Inside and around the Alhambra are inscriptions of Moorish writing like
"Kingdom is for Allah" and "Wa La Ghalib illa Allah," which means,
"There is no Conqueror (Victor) except Allah."

The splendor of the Alhambra and its gardens have inspired many
musicians, artists, and authors. Among them was renowned author,
Washington Irving, who took up residence in the Alhambra and wrote Tales
of the Alhambra. The artist M.C. Escher's interest began when in 1936 he
visited the Alhambra and was fascinated with its tile patterns, and
spent days sketching them. The inspiration here lay the foundation for
his work - for which he is most famous for. He based his work on these
intricate Arabic designs, and repetitive floral and mathematical patterns.

In 1492, we also learn of the mass exodus from Spain, due to the
inquisition ordered by Queen Isabella. Many Moors and even christians
left Andalusia because their rights were taken from them. However, they
were very fortunate if they were able to escape with their lives from
their own land. Moorish were ordered to convert or be killed. Many
stayed behind and secretly remained submitted until today to Allah,
while others who resisted were burned at the stake in that hell hole
which became Spain since 1492 till todate...

From 1492 until the second world war we had to save our oppressors many
times... we installed the Generals... remember??? And Napoleon a Moorish
Lord but history tells you another tales... And he installed Sharia laws
over all of Europe to bind the evil ones for long times... Many laws
still stand today in Europe. Just remember Napoleon was a Muslim... one
of the many many many who history was erased and rewritten to fit lies
of the devil... since what you know are lies and no facts

And you haven't yet seen nothing... just open your ears and eyes and
watch the near future how they all will fall from their high crowns
while glory is restored to this Warrior of the Light.

The Teach R sun Von Sallee/Fez...
http://www.cindyvallar.com/Teach1.gif

http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/rha/lowres/rhan451l.jpg

Eugene Griessel

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International condemnation of South Africa's apartheid policy gained much
momentum during the sixties. With the decolonisation process in full swing, many
new states joined the international community and called for sanctions against South Africa. As a result the UN accepted a number of restrictive resolutions on weapon sales to South Africa from 1963 onwards. The relationship between South Africa and Britain also became problematic. South Africa left the British Commonwealth in 1961 and the British Labour Government (elected in 1964) prohibited weapons sales to South Africa, though they honoured contracts that formed part of the Simon's Town agreement. In June 1967, after a British cutback in overseas military commitments (the so-called "east of Suez" withdrawal), the Royal Navy withdrew its last frigate that was "on station" in Simon's Town.

Eugene Griessel

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Despite the fact that the Simon's Town Agreement remained unchanged
during the sixties, it was not to last. It became a political liability for Britain, while South Africa thought that it received nothing in return for its unilateral effort of keeping the naval base available to Britain. When the Agreement was cancelled in June 1975, it brought the British naval presence of more than a century and a half in South Africa to an end. Without the helping hand of "Big Brother" Royal Navy, the SAN was now truly "on its own". Operationally the SAN needed ships to patrol the South African and South West Africa/Namibia coasts, guard the Cape Sea Route and, within the framework of the Cold War, shadow Soviet vessels that rounded the Cape of Good Hope, but assistance from Britain would not be forthcoming.

Eugene Griessel

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The SAN commenced with a planning process for a fleet upgrade in the late
sixties. It investigated its future role and tried to match it to the type of equipment needed to be a credible maritime force. It's ageing fleet of destroyers and frigates had to be upgraded and submarines were deemed necessary. The SAN concluded (extremely optimistically) that it would require up to ten light frigates and/or corvettes during the last three decades of the 20th century! These ships had to be well armed and big enough for adequate sea keeping and endurance in the often- stormy South African waters. Compact warships of roughly between one and two thousand tons, armed with guns and missiles, were deemed ideal. Six "patrol vessels" were the requirement of a future acquisition programme and South Africa had to consider building its own "light frigates" in the future.

HVAC

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On 5/18/2012 5:16 PM, Warhol wrote:
>
>>> any news about Nightbat yet?
>>
>>
>> He's still dead.
>>
>>
>
> Did I call you plumber or asked for your opinion bastard???



Were you high on hash when you wrote that?

HVAC

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On 5/18/2012 11:54 PM, Warhol wrote:
>
>>>> is he dead?
>>>
>>> I don't know!
>>
>> He's not dead yet.
>>
>
> if he isn't reacting, then he must be dead...
>
> That you, Scarecrow? chuckle
>
> And btw, NightBat is busy eating a Hotdog.


Were you high on hash when you wrote that?









Double-A

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The bat channel has been silent.

Double-A




HVAC

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On 5/19/2012 1:19 PM, Double-A wrote:
>
>> any news about Nightbat yet?
>
>
> The bat channel has been silent.


You might even say it's been......Dead.

Warhol

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Op 19-5-2012 19:19, Double-A schreef:
yeah... there are many battle fronts... and the net is vast for the few..

the Plumber is always dead wrong... remember he declared you dead??? or
when he Said I was dead... and all this... not so long ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8txDV2tYtJk

But Tholen not reacting while we are cross posting to his group thats
what I call very strange... He must be dead...

Eugene Griessel

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In the end Project Taurus was cancelled due to the changing political climate
in Portugal. After the bloodless coup d'etat in 1974, Portugal immediately granted
independence to its colonies in Africa. South Africa was notified that Portugal
would no longer continue with the project. Due to all the delays, the project
therefore ended before any contracts could be finalised.

Mel Morgan

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Source:
http://ve7kfm.com/kb9rqz.html

Who is Mark Morgan, KB9RQZ?

Mark C. Morgan of 17366 North River Road, Tapiola, Michigan describes
himself as a "kinky bisexual, into bondage, domination, and sado-
masochism." As indicated in the CCRAA club newsletter, Morgan was
impeached by members of the CCRAA radio club, in the summer of 2008.
His impeachment was partly a result of the fact that he falsely
accused seven men of child pandering and partly due to the fact that
his actions brought disrepute onto the club.

Mark Morgan is under investigation for identity theft related to the
unauthorized use of another man's name and email address. Information
related to the incident was posted on the website on February 13 at
1:15 AM. Morgan has continuously posted false and defamatory
information about various individuals for a number of years.

On February 13, it was also reported that nine (9) accounts used by
Morgan to flood multiple newsgroups with annoyance messages had been
removed for terms of service (TOS) violations.

Amazingly, after falsely reporting an individual for child sex
pandering last year, Mark Morgan has now stolen the email address of
the same FCC licensee, and, as of 10 AM eastern time on 2/13/09,
Morgan had already posted 308 fraudulent messages. Here is a link to
the fraudulent profile created by Mark Morgan, KB9RQZ. The FBI and Law
enforcement agencies in Michigan have been notified about this latest
act of fraud perpetrated by Mark Morgan.

During the period prior to Morgan being impeached by the CCRAA radio
club, the turbulence resulting from Morgan's fraud, malicious acts,
and false accusations were acknowledged by club members to have cast a
bad light on the organization. According to the club leadership: When
Morgan began posting statements about the club on his private blog,
leading to the possibility of the club being involved in a nasty civil
suit, club members realized their mistake in electing him. After a
short tenure as a club officer, Morgan was impeached by a margin of
11:1. Morgan's own vote was the only vote in his favor.

Like his friend Karol Madera, Morgan has a long history of
involvement with the police, and the mental health industry. Law
enforcement officials in Michigan have stated that Morgan was
transported for psychiatric examination in 2004, to a hospital in
Marquette, Michigan, under supervision of Sheriff's Deputies.

Morgan calls himself an ally of Karol Madera, VE7KFM.

In collusion with Madera, Morgan made malicious and false reports of
child pandering to child protective service agencies, against 7
different men, in 7 different states.

Morgan was banned from qrz.com and hamisland.com for posting
defamation about various individuals. Morgan has admitted he uses
Google services (blogspot) to manage at least 3 defamatory blogs,
using material fabricated by Karol Madera.

Morgan creates multiple identities, enabling him to flood the usenet
service with thousands of nonsensical messages, in retaliation against
those who have revealed his many lies and fabrications over the past
10 years. At last count, Morgan had posted well over 200,000
meaningless posts, using just a few of these multiple identities.
Morgan admits he has rendered the service useless, citing "self
defense." The removal of one of the many identities used by KB9RQZ on
usenet is a victory in the effort to reduce the incessant flood of
posts made by Morgan in an effort to deny others the ability to enjoy
the usenet service.

Quotable Quotes ~ by Mark Morgan, KB9RQZ

On reporting 7 men for child sex crimes:

"likewise you can prove I made a charge , you can't prove it was
flase and malicious you would have to prove that I did not suspect
you, indeed if I am mental ill as you suggest in post 2 then your task
becomes even harder, since if I am nuts who knows what I believe"

"if you try and stop me either nothing will happen , or I will never
even notice the effort or if you manage to inconvence my exercise of
my rights I will look into what price I can extract from you."

"you also provoked mater by insisting your had the right to control
who responded to your posts in RRAP"

"I made no flase report to CPS (child protective services) indeed you
don't what a fasle report is it seems since I did and do and in fact I
am more convinced than ever that you are likely the offer of the note
claimignt o be willing to rent me the sexual service of that 9 yo but
in any event I started nothing with you YOU started thing remeber you
insisted I hated Ham radio because I said its response to Katrina
could be imporved"

"when you atack me you invite response the only question is wether
you have the gut to allow the reponse"

KB9RQZ, on shooting a teenaged boy (according to Houghton County
Sheriff's Department, it never happened)

"at about 6:35 this morning I was awakened not by the expected return
of my wife form the renfaire but the sound of motors. the motors
belong to an ATV that had managed to get a rope onto my tower (30 foot
wooden structure and was puling the tower down. O got sever round with
the shotgun did not score a good hit but but the cops found blood on
the treea dn the trails lead back to n rover river road after a bit
where it stop and free tire marks (looks like one of the pickups that
carry atv's around here).

the rope parted and no real damage to the anttenas was done although
my masting needs work to make it stable again. have had loads of fun
with the cops over the matter. I wonder what poor kid ( I could see he
was not more than say 16 ish) the nutjobs conned into making the
attack and with what lie. sad realy."

February 2009 ~ Yet Another KB9RQZ Identity Banned from Google Groups

Another of the email adresses (kb9...@yahoo.com) used by Mark Morgan
of Chassell, MI to flood usenet with thousands of nonsensical, useless
messages, has been banned by Google groups for numerous violations of
Google's terms of use, which include efforts to defame, abuse, harass,
stalk, threaten or otherwise violate the legal rights (such as rights
of privacy and publicity) of others; posting inappropriate,
defamatory, infringing, obscene, or unlawful Content, and; restricting
and inhibiting other users from using and enjoying the Service,
through repeated flooding, spamming, and changing of thread titles.

The following is a repost about Morgan, made on Daniel Jeswald's
blog, attributed to Steven Robeson:

Mark Morgan, KB9RQZ, is a very disturbed, admittedly deviant, and
dishonest person who has been harrassing Amateur Radio operators and
disrupting radio, and other forums, since at least 1997.

As part of his on-going fusillade, he has, at various times, insisted
that he's a "colonel" in the US Army "chemical corps," further
insisting that he's been "drafted," and further insisting that he was
not allowed to "resign."

Never mind that he was only 8 years old when the draft was stopped in
the 70's! He's since recanted the "Colonel" claim, saying he was only
a Lieutenant, then claiming he was only a Sergeant at discharge --
under another name that the CIA knows about -- and approved.

Oh, and he was kicked out of the service due to his "nerves"
according to Mr. Morgan. However, the HCSD and MSP both have him on
record as being transported to Marquette General Hospital in 2004, due
to "involuntary commitment for psychiatric evaluation."

Mr. Morgan has perpetuated a smear campaign against other members of
various forums, going as far as post-editing comments, forging posts,
and even trying to make "complaints" to the Civil Air Patrol Inspector
General Corps and the FCC, etc., about perceived slights that have
nothing to do with CAP or anything with any bearing on reality.

Recently, Morgan reported 7 different men to Child Protective
Services in 7 different states. All this, because he has allied
himself with yet another lunatic in Canada, known as Karol Madera,
VE7KFM, who is as bad, or worse, than Mark Morgan.

This behavior is nothing more than an attempt by Morgan to "silence"
those who would expose his foolishness and who refuse to tolerate his
dishonesty in public forums.

Mr. Morgan has admitted to various acts of perversion and deceit,
going as far as bragging about his use of lying, and his belief that
deceit should be proactively taught to children as part of their
upbringing. He describes himself as a kinky, bisexual, rabbi, who is
into bondage, domination, and sado-masochism. He's been banned from
almost every polite radio forum on the internet, but he still spams
usenet groups, nearly every day, with nonsensical messages and libel.

Mr. Morgan has even gone as far as to create multiple screen names
with which to spam usenet and other forums, including one screen name
that invokes the name of my deceased daughter in order to perpetuate
his demented "point of view".

Be aware. Be informed. Mark C. Morgan is NOT a person of reputable
character, nor does he have an honest nature. In fact, not only was he
transported to Marquette General Hospital for psychiatric evaluation
and treatment in 2004, but he has a long history of similar treatment
and harassment of others by various devious and underhanded means.

Mark Morgan has been investigated for the abuse of his elderly
father, and for making false sos calls, as recently as December, 2008.
There have even been rumors that Mark Morgan stole money from his
elderly father, in order to move to Michigan, to avoid prosecution
there, for crimes that have not been published, yet.

This summer (2008) Mr. Morgan was voted out of the CCRAA amateur
radio club by a vote of 11:1. He was ejected from that club and banned
from the websites qrz.com and ham island.net. Reports of dishonesty,
slander, libel, and theft, follow Mark Morgan around the internet,
like the stench from the local dump.

Here is a link to one of the screen names used to flood forums with
unwanted posts and garbage of the type I previously mentioned. And
here is another from IP addresses at Hughes satellite services, the
latest IP addresses being 69.19.14.28 and 69.19.113.131

In summary, beware of Mark C. Morgan of 17366 North River Road,
Tapiola, Michigan. Do not hesitate to contact Houghton County
Sheriff's Department if he begins stalking you, or your family.
Unfortunately, I have first hand experience with his stalking and
harassment.

Mark Christopher Morgan can be reached for comment at
kb9...@hughes.net or by phone at 906-523-4520 or via his postal
address at Mark C. Morgan 17366 North River Road, Tapiola, Michigan
49931

Fred Hall

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>Source:
>http://ve7kfm.com/kb9rqz.html

Kooksite!

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On May 20, 1:57 pm, Fred Hall <fkh...@databasix.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 20 May 2012 08:15:13 -0700 (PDT), Mel Morgan
> <gavi....@gmail.com> wrote in
>
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kb9rqz

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On May 20, 8:43 pm, This account has been banned because it violated
the Google Groups Terms Of Use <laugh...@u.kook> wrote:
> MMFC scatboi AKA 'I Punce' created the new sock <gavi....@gmail.com> and
> wrote:
>
> > Source:
> >http://ve7kfm.co<slap>
>
> Are Brian L Crow K3VR, Thomas Whatley Jr N1FM and John V. Abbruscato, W5JON
> co-owners of the VE7KFM dot com kook site?

crow k3vr is widely believed to ve7kfm.com
>
> --
> MMFC's 'Jethro' of rec.radio.amateur.policy tries to forge-cancel in
> MID <3dcd1b6eaaf2.991075...@alvillage.net> and screws it up -
>  "Cancel:  <nct1k28co382t66d1rsjg16d345lv72...@4ax.com>
>   Canceled by HipCrime News Agent."
> --
> MMFC kook UberJacker <nohij...@houston-hunks.com> takes usenet to real life:
> "It seems your telephone number is posted on Nim, Marc.  I imagine that
> your fans will be calling soon.  Enjoy."
> MID: <ee35aa1e-ee89-4e63-b158-46fdebc6e...@r36g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>

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May 22, 2012, 8:23:12 PM5/22/12
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Double-A <doub...@hush.com> writes:

909> Newsgroups:
alt.astronomy,alt.conspiracy,sci.military.naval,alt.atheism,comp.os.os2.advocacy

909> Does anyone know where David Tholen is?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, Double-A?

909> He seems to be missing again!

What does your fantasy have to do with OS/2, Double-A?

910> Newsgroups:
alt.astronomy,alt.conspiracy,sci.military.naval,alt.atheism,comp.os.os2.advocacy

910> I don't know!

What does your lack of knowledge have to do with OS/2, Double-A?

911> Newsgroups:
alt.astronomy,alt.conspiracy,sci.military.naval,alt.atheism,comp.os.os2.advocacy

911> The bat channel has been silent.

What does the silence of the bat channel have to do with OS/2, Double-
A?

"If you really don't want to hear from me in comp.os.os2.advocacy
again, just tell me to go away, and I will."
--Double-A

"Bye."
--Double-A

And some people wonder why I call them Famous Last Words.

tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu

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May 22, 2012, 8:27:27 PM5/22/12
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Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> writes:

91> Newsgroups:
alt.astronomy,alt.conspiracy,sci.military.naval,alt.atheism,comp.os.os2.advocacy

91> is he dead?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, Warhol?

92> Newsgroups:
alt.astronomy,alt.conspiracy,sci.military.naval,alt.atheism,comp.os.os2.advocacy

92> any news about Nightbat yet?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, Warhol?

93> Newsgroups:
alt.astronomy,alt.conspiracy,sci.military.naval,alt.atheism,comp.os.os2.advocacy

93> Did I call you plumber or asked for your opinion bastard???

What does your question have to do with OS/2, Warhol?

94> Newsgroups:
alt.astronomy,alt.conspiracy,sci.military.naval,alt.atheism,comp.os.os2.advocacy

94> if he isn't reacting, then he must be dead...

What does your conclusion have to do with OS/2, Warhol?

94> That you, Scarecrow? chuckle

What does your question have to do with OS/2, Warhol?

94> And btw, NightBat is busy eating a Hotdog.

What does NightBat's business have to do with OS/2, Warhol?

95> Newsgroups:
alt.astronomy,alt.conspiracy,sci.military.naval,alt.atheism,comp.os.os2.advocacy

95> yeah... there are many battle fronts... and the net is vast for
the few..

What does the vastness of the net have to do with OS/2, Warhol?

95> the Plumber is always dead wrong... remember he declared you
dead??? or
95> when he Said I was dead... and all this... not so long ago.

What does Plumber's declaration of your death have to do with
OS/2, Warhol?

95> But Tholen not reacting while we are cross posting to his group

Classic erroneous presupposition.

95> thats what I call very strange... He must be dead...

What does your fantasy have to do with OS/2, Warhol?

tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu

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May 22, 2012, 8:29:45 PM5/22/12
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Eugene Griessel <eug...@dynagen.co.za> writes:

1> Newsgroups:
alt.astronomy,alt.conspiracy,sci.military.naval,alt.atheism,comp.os.os2.advocacy

1> The South African Navy was created in April 1922, after three
small, former
1> British, vessels were commissioned into a new arm of the Union
Defence Force,
1> called the South African Naval Service (SANS). These three vessels
were
1> decommissioned in 1933-34 as a result of the depression and only a
skeleton staff
1> remained until the outbreak of Second World War in September 1939.
With no
1> warships available the SANS (later to become the Seaward Defence
Force - SDF)
1> had to requisition ships from trade, mainly whaling and fishing,
and convert them
1> into anti-submarine vessels and minesweepers. These little ships
and their crews
1> served with distinction throughout the Second World War, both in
local waters as
1> well as in the Mediterranean. South African sailors and their ships
gained much
1> praise and respect for their devotion to duty and service.

1> BUILDING STRIKE CRAFT IN ISRAEL

1> Commander Thean Potgieter

2> Newsgroups:
alt.astronomy,alt.conspiracy,sci.military.naval,alt.atheism,comp.os.os2.advocacy

2> The South African Naval Forces (SANF - restructured in 1942)
received its
2> first purpose-built warships, three frigates of the Loch class,
from Great Britain in 1944-45. In addition, the South African Navy
(SAN - renamed in 1951)
2> commissioned two former Royal Navy ocean minesweepers in 1947 and
also bought
2> two Second World War destroyers from Britain in 1950 and 1953.
Britain still
2> maintained a strong naval presence in South Africa, as the
protection of the Cape
2> Sea Route was very important for Britain and the West during the
Cold War era. In
2> 1955 Britain and South Africa concluded the so-called Simon's Town
Agreement -
2> essentially a policy declaration emphasising regional co-operation
and defence
2> against external aggression with the purpose of securing the safety
of the Cape Sea Route. The SAN took over the control of the naval base
at Simon's Town and
2> received a wider operational responsibility in the South Atlantic
(essentially a "para-Nato" role, without calling it that), while
Britain retained the privilege of using the base and its facilities.

2> BUILDING STRIKE CRAFT IN ISRAEL

2> Commander Thean Potgieter

3> Newsgroups:
alt.astronomy,alt.conspiracy,sci.military.naval,alt.atheism,comp.os.os2.advocacy

3> An important outcome of the Agreement was the expansion and
3> modernisation of the SAN - it acquired four frigates, five seaward
defence boats and ten minesweepers from Britain. The frigates were one
Type 15 (converted "W"
3> class destroyer) and three Type 12 anti-submarine frigates. The
Type 12 frigates
3> were the first major warships ordered and built for the SAN. South
Africa now had
3> a medium sized, typically Western navy, strongly aligned to the
Royal Navy. In
3> terms of its role, equipment, training and doctrine it was a small
version of the Royal Navy, more suited for the requirements of Britain
than for the indigenous and unique maritime defence requirements of
South Africa.

3> BUILDING STRIKE CRAFT IN ISRAEL

3> Commander Thean Potgieter

4> Newsgroups:
alt.astronomy,alt.conspiracy,sci.military.naval,alt.atheism,comp.os.os2.advocacy

4> Despite the fact that the Simon's Town Agreement remained unchanged
4> during the sixties, it was not to last. It became a political
liability for Britain, while South Africa thought that it received
nothing in return for its unilateral effort of keeping the naval base
available to Britain. When the Agreement was cancelled in June 1975,
it brought the British naval presence of more than a century and a
half in South Africa to an end. Without the helping hand of "Big
Brother" Royal Navy, the SAN was now truly "on its own". Operationally
the SAN needed ships to patrol the South African and South West Africa/
Namibia coasts, guard the Cape Sea Route and, within the framework of
the Cold War, shadow Soviet vessels that rounded the Cape of Good
Hope, but assistance from Britain would not be forthcoming.

4> BUILDING STRIKE CRAFT IN ISRAEL

4> Commander Thean Potgieter

5> Newsgroups:
alt.astronomy,alt.conspiracy,sci.military.naval,alt.atheism,comp.os.os2.advocacy

5> In the end Project Taurus was cancelled due to the changing
political climate
5> in Portugal. After the bloodless coup d'etat in 1974, Portugal
immediately granted
5> independence to its colonies in Africa. South Africa was notified
that Portugal
5> would no longer continue with the project. Due to all the delays,
the project
5> therefore ended before any contracts could be finalised.

5> BUILDING STRIKE CRAFT IN ISRAEL

5> Commander Thean Potgieter

What does any of that have to do with OS/2, Griessel?

tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu

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May 22, 2012, 8:35:51 PM5/22/12
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Mel Morgan <gavi...@gmail.com> writes:

12> Newsgroups:
rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.policy,sci.military.naval,alt.usenet.kooks,comp.os.os2.advocacy

12> Source:

12> Who is Mark Morgan, KB9RQZ?

12> Mark C. Morgan of 17366 North River Road, Tapiola, Michigan
describes
12> himself as a "kinky bisexual, into bondage, domination, and sado-
12> masochism." As indicated in the CCRAA club newsletter, Morgan was
12> impeached by members of the CCRAA radio club, in the summer of
2008.
12> His impeachment was partly a result of the fact that he falsely
12> accused seven men of child pandering and partly due to the fact
that
12> his actions brought disrepute onto the club.

12> Mark Morgan is under investigation for identity theft related to
the
12> unauthorized use of another man's name and email address.
Information
12> related to the incident was posted on the website on February 13
at
12> 1:15 AM. Morgan has continuously posted false and defamatory
12> information about various individuals for a number of years.

12> On February 13, it was also reported that nine (9) accounts used
by
12> Morgan to flood multiple newsgroups with annoyance messages had
been
12> removed for terms of service (TOS) violations.

12> Amazingly, after falsely reporting an individual for child sex
12> pandering last year, Mark Morgan has now stolen the email address
of
12> the same FCC licensee, and, as of 10 AM eastern time on 2/13/09,
12> Morgan had already posted 308 fraudulent messages. Here is a link
to
12> the fraudulent profile created by Mark Morgan, KB9RQZ. The FBI and
Law
12> enforcement agencies in Michigan have been notified about this
latest
12> act of fraud perpetrated by Mark Morgan.

12> During the period prior to Morgan being impeached by the CCRAA
radio
12> club, the turbulence resulting from Morgan's fraud, malicious
acts,
12> and false accusations were acknowledged by club members to have
cast a
12> bad light on the organization. According to the club leadership:
When
12> Morgan began posting statements about the club on his private
blog,
12> leading to the possibility of the club being involved in a nasty
civil
12> suit, club members realized their mistake in electing him. After a
12> short tenure as a club officer, Morgan was impeached by a margin
of
12> 11:1. Morgan's own vote was the only vote in his favor.

12> Like his friend Karol Madera, Morgan has a long history of
12> involvement with the police, and the mental health industry. Law
12> enforcement officials in Michigan have stated that Morgan was
12> transported for psychiatric examination in 2004, to a hospital in
12> Marquette, Michigan, under supervision of Sheriff's Deputies.

12> Morgan calls himself an ally of Karol Madera, VE7KFM.

12> In collusion with Madera, Morgan made malicious and false reports
of
12> child pandering to child protective service agencies, against 7
12> different men, in 7 different states.

12> Morgan was banned from qrz.com and hamisland.com for posting
12> defamation about various individuals. Morgan has admitted he uses
12> Google services (blogspot) to manage at least 3 defamatory blogs,
12> using material fabricated by Karol Madera.

12> Morgan creates multiple identities, enabling him to flood the
usenet
12> service with thousands of nonsensical messages, in retaliation
against
12> those who have revealed his many lies and fabrications over the
past
12> 10 years. At last count, Morgan had posted well over 200,000
12> meaningless posts, using just a few of these multiple identities.
12> Morgan admits he has rendered the service useless, citing "self
12> defense." The removal of one of the many identities used by KB9RQZ
on
12> usenet is a victory in the effort to reduce the incessant flood of
12> posts made by Morgan in an effort to deny others the ability to
enjoy
12> the usenet service.

12> Quotable Quotes ~ by Mark Morgan, KB9RQZ

12> On reporting 7 men for child sex crimes:

12> "likewise you can prove I made a charge , you can't prove it was
12> flase and malicious you would have to prove that I did not suspect
12> you, indeed if I am mental ill as you suggest in post 2 then your
task
12> becomes even harder, since if I am nuts who knows what I believe"

12> "if you try and stop me either nothing will happen , or I will
never
12> even notice the effort or if you manage to inconvence my exercise
of
12> my rights I will look into what price I can extract from you."

12> "you also provoked mater by insisting your had the right to
control
12> who responded to your posts in RRAP"

12> "I made no flase report to CPS (child protective services) indeed
you
12> don't what a fasle report is it seems since I did and do and in
fact I
12> am more convinced than ever that you are likely the offer of the
note
12> claimignt o be willing to rent me the sexual service of that 9 yo
but
12> in any event I started nothing with you YOU started thing remeber
you
12> insisted I hated Ham radio because I said its response to Katrina
12> could be imporved"

12> "when you atack me you invite response the only question is wether
12> you have the gut to allow the reponse"

12> KB9RQZ, on shooting a teenaged boy (according to Houghton County
12> Sheriff's Department, it never happened)

12> "at about 6:35 this morning I was awakened not by the expected
return
12> of my wife form the renfaire but the sound of motors. the motors
12> belong to an ATV that had managed to get a rope onto my tower (30
foot
12> wooden structure and was puling the tower down. O got sever round
with
12> the shotgun did not score a good hit but but the cops found blood
on
12> the treea dn the trails lead back to n rover river road after a
bit
12> where it stop and free tire marks (looks like one of the pickups
that
12> carry atv's around here).

12> the rope parted and no real damage to the anttenas was done
although
12> my masting needs work to make it stable again. have had loads of
fun
12> with the cops over the matter. I wonder what poor kid ( I could
see he
12> was not more than say 16 ish) the nutjobs conned into making the
12> attack and with what lie. sad realy."

12> February 2009 ~ Yet Another KB9RQZ Identity Banned from Google
Groups

12> Another of the email adresses (kb9...@yahoo.com) used by Mark
Morgan
12> of Chassell, MI to flood usenet with thousands of nonsensical,
useless
12> messages, has been banned by Google groups for numerous violations
of
12> Google's terms of use, which include efforts to defame, abuse,
harass,
12> stalk, threaten or otherwise violate the legal rights (such as
rights
12> of privacy and publicity) of others; posting inappropriate,
12> defamatory, infringing, obscene, or unlawful Content, and;
restricting
12> and inhibiting other users from using and enjoying the Service,
12> through repeated flooding, spamming, and changing of thread
titles.

12> The following is a repost about Morgan, made on Daniel Jeswald's
12> blog, attributed to Steven Robeson:

12> Mark Morgan, KB9RQZ, is a very disturbed, admittedly deviant, and
12> dishonest person who has been harrassing Amateur Radio operators
and
12> disrupting radio, and other forums, since at least 1997.

12> As part of his on-going fusillade, he has, at various times,
insisted
12> that he's a "colonel" in the US Army "chemical corps," further
12> insisting that he's been "drafted," and further insisting that he
was
12> not allowed to "resign."

12> Never mind that he was only 8 years old when the draft was stopped
in
12> the 70's! He's since recanted the "Colonel" claim, saying he was
only
12> a Lieutenant, then claiming he was only a Sergeant at discharge --
12> under another name that the CIA knows about -- and approved.

12> Oh, and he was kicked out of the service due to his "nerves"
12> according to Mr. Morgan. However, the HCSD and MSP both have him
on
12> record as being transported to Marquette General Hospital in 2004,
due
12> to "involuntary commitment for psychiatric evaluation."

12> Mr. Morgan has perpetuated a smear campaign against other members
of
12> various forums, going as far as post-editing comments, forging
posts,
12> and even trying to make "complaints" to the Civil Air Patrol
Inspector
12> General Corps and the FCC, etc., about perceived slights that have
12> nothing to do with CAP or anything with any bearing on reality.

12> Recently, Morgan reported 7 different men to Child Protective
12> Services in 7 different states. All this, because he has allied
12> himself with yet another lunatic in Canada, known as Karol Madera,
12> VE7KFM, who is as bad, or worse, than Mark Morgan.

12> This behavior is nothing more than an attempt by Morgan to
"silence"
12> those who would expose his foolishness and who refuse to tolerate
his
12> dishonesty in public forums.

12> Mr. Morgan has admitted to various acts of perversion and deceit,
12> going as far as bragging about his use of lying, and his belief
that
12> deceit should be proactively taught to children as part of their
12> upbringing. He describes himself as a kinky, bisexual, rabbi, who
is
12> into bondage, domination, and sado-masochism. He's been banned
from
12> almost every polite radio forum on the internet, but he still
spams
12> usenet groups, nearly every day, with nonsensical messages and
libel.

12> Mr. Morgan has even gone as far as to create multiple screen names
12> with which to spam usenet and other forums, including one screen
name
12> that invokes the name of my deceased daughter in order to
perpetuate
12> his demented "point of view".

12> Be aware. Be informed. Mark C. Morgan is NOT a person of reputable
12> character, nor does he have an honest nature. In fact, not only
was he
12> transported to Marquette General Hospital for psychiatric
evaluation
12> and treatment in 2004, but he has a long history of similar
treatment
12> and harassment of others by various devious and underhanded means.

12> Mark Morgan has been investigated for the abuse of his elderly
12> father, and for making false sos calls, as recently as December,
2008.
12> There have even been rumors that Mark Morgan stole money from his
12> elderly father, in order to move to Michigan, to avoid prosecution
12> there, for crimes that have not been published, yet.

12> This summer (2008) Mr. Morgan was voted out of the CCRAA amateur
12> radio club by a vote of 11:1. He was ejected from that club and
banned
12> from the websites qrz.com and ham island.net. Reports of
dishonesty,
12> slander, libel, and theft, follow Mark Morgan around the internet,
12> like the stench from the local dump.

12> Here is a link to one of the screen names used to flood forums
with
12> unwanted posts and garbage of the type I previously mentioned. And
12> here is another from IP addresses at Hughes satellite services,
the
12> latest IP addresses being 69.19.14.28 and 69.19.113.131

12> In summary, beware of Mark C. Morgan of 17366 North River Road,
12> Tapiola, Michigan. Do not hesitate to contact Houghton County
12> Sheriff's Department if he begins stalking you, or your family.
12> Unfortunately, I have first hand experience with his stalking and
12> harassment.

12> Mark Christopher Morgan can be reached for comment at
12> kb9...@hughes.net or by phone at 906-523-4520 or via his postal
12> address at Mark C. Morgan 17366 North River Road, Tapiola,
Michigan
12> 49931

What does any of that have to do with OS/2, Morgan?

tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu

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May 22, 2012, 8:37:46 PM5/22/12
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Fred Hall <fkh...@databasix.com> writes:

214> Newsgroups:
rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.policy,sci.military.naval,alt.usenet.kooks,comp.os.os2.advocacy

214> Kooksite!

What does that have to do with OS/2, Hall?

tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu

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May 22, 2012, 8:41:08 PM5/22/12
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kb9rqz <ma...@kb9rqz.com> writes:

718> Newsgroups:
rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.policy,sci.military.naval,alt.usenet.kooks,comp.os.os2.advocacy

718> fake

What does Hall's fakeness have to do with rec.radio.shortwave,
rec.radio.amateur.policy,sci.military.naval,alt.usenet.kooks,
comp.os.os2.advocacy, kb9rqz?

719> Newsgroups:
rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.policy,sci.military.naval,alt.usenet.kooks,comp.os.os2.advocacy

719> crow k3vr is widely believed to ve7kfm.com

What does your allegation have to do with rec.radio.shortwave,
rec.radio.amateur.policy,sci.military.naval,alt.usenet.kooks,
comp.os.os2.advocacy, kb9rqz?

tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu

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May 22, 2012, 8:44:14 PM5/22/12
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This account has been banned because it violated the Google Groups
Terms Of Use <laug...@u.kook> writes:

6> Newsgroups:
rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.policy,sci.military.naval,alt.usenet.kooks,comp.os.os2.advocacy

6> Are Brian L Crow K3VR, Thomas Whatley Jr N1FM and John V.
Abbruscato, W5JON
6> co-owners of the VE7KFM dot com kook site?

What does your question have to do with rec.radio.shortwave,
rec.radio.amateur.policy,sci.military.naval,alt.usenet.kooks,
comp.os.os2.advocacy, laughing?

tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu

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May 22, 2012, 8:43:09 PM5/22/12
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"%" <per...@gmail.com> writes:

498> Newsgroups:
rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.policy,sci.military.naval,alt.usenet.kooks,comp.os.os2.advocacy

498> fake

What does kb9rqz's fakeness have to do with rec.radio.shortwave,
rec.radio.amateur.policy,sci.military.naval,alt.usenet.kooks,
comp.os.os2.advocacy, persent?

tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu

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May 22, 2012, 8:32:32 PM5/22/12
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HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> writes:

16> Newsgroups:
alt.astronomy,alt.conspiracy,sci.military.naval,alt.atheism,comp.os.os2.advocacy

16> He's not dead yet.

What does your proclamation have to do with OS/2, HVAC?

17> Newsgroups:
alt.astronomy,alt.conspiracy,sci.military.naval,alt.atheism,comp.os.os2.advocacy

17> He's still dead.

What does your proclamation have to do with OS/2, HVAC?

18> Newsgroups:
alt.astronomy,alt.conspiracy,sci.military.naval,alt.atheism,comp.os.os2.advocacy

18> Were you high on hash when you wrote that?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, HVAC?

19> Newsgroups:
alt.astronomy,alt.conspiracy,sci.military.naval,alt.atheism,comp.os.os2.advocacy

19> Were you high on hash when you wrote that?

What does your question have to do with OS/2, HVAC?

20> Newsgroups:
alt.astronomy,alt.conspiracy,sci.military.naval,alt.atheism,comp.os.os2.advocacy

20> You might even say it's been......Dead.

What does the alleged deadness of the bat channel
have to do with OS/2, HVAC?

Double-A

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May 23, 2012, 4:22:59 PM5/23/12
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On May 22, 5:23 pm, "tho...@antispam.ham" <tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu>
wrote:
> Double-A <double...@hush.com> writes:
>
> 909> Newsgroups:
> alt.astronomy,alt.conspiracy,sci.military.naval,alt.atheism,comp.os.os2.adv­ocacy
>
> 909> Does anyone know where David Tholen is?
>
> What does your question have to do with OS/2, Double-A?
>
> 909> He seems to be missing again!
>
> What does your fantasy have to do with OS/2, Double-A?
>
> 910> Newsgroups:
> alt.astronomy,alt.conspiracy,sci.military.naval,alt.atheism,comp.os.os2.adv­ocacy
>
> 910> I don't know!
>
> What does your lack of knowledge have to do with OS/2, Double-A?
>
> 911> Newsgroups:
> alt.astronomy,alt.conspiracy,sci.military.naval,alt.atheism,comp.os.os2.adv­ocacy
>
> 911> The bat channel has been silent.
>
> What does the silence of the bat channel have to do with OS/2, Double-
> A?


Well at least there's no more silence of the Tholenbot!


>    "If you really don't want to hear from me in comp.os.os2.advocacy
>    again, just tell me to go away, and I will."
>       --Double-A
>
>    "Bye."
>       --Double-A
>
> And some people wonder why I call them Famous Last Words.


What does what you call them have to do with OS/2, Tholen?

Double-A

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