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Thomas Womack  
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 More options Sep 29 2012, 2:54 pm
Newsgroups: sci.military.naval
From: Thomas Womack <twom...@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Date: 29 Sep 2012 19:54:53 +0100 (BST)
Local: Sat, Sep 29 2012 2:54 pm
Subject: Re: President Obama taking a commanding lead in the Polls!
In article <YdidndPg58KpofrNnZ2dnUVZ_gmdn...@giganews.com>,

jonathan <wr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>In a dictatorship, there's no way to know what the people want
>or their opinions.

a) You pointed out the existence of the internet not very far away in
   this very thread; there is at the very least a substantial vocal  
   subgroup of Iranians who explain what they want clearly and
   repeatedly

b) Iran's elections are at an interesting position between
   free-and-fair and laughable; if you want to know what Iranians
   want, the results of the 2009 election and subsequent protests
   are instructive.

But after the debacle of 1953 and the other debacle of 1979, there is
absolutely no hope that any group perceivable as being the minions of
the US can intervene sanely to back an anti-government side in Iran
without simply getting the anti-government side's members imprisoned
and beaten.  Nor for ethnic reasons can a predominantly-Arab group,
which any large-enough regional consortium would be, get involved.

I think we just have to leave it; if an Iranian rebel group asks for
UN peacekeepers the UN can probably scare up a group from East Asia,
South America and Bangladesh, and with a really competent US secretary
of state then US technical assistance could be provided sufficiently
subtly and deniably.

Tom


 
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