SBX assembly time
Allen Thomson
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA032005.1A.star_wars.155959f04.html
Defense shield built in Texas
Web Posted: 03/20/2005 12:00 AM CST
Jeorge Zarazua
[San Antonio]Express-News Staff Writer
[EXCERPTS]
In secluded shipyards near Corpus Christi and
Brownsville, government contractors quietly are
finishing work on a mammoth piece of space-age
weaponry.
The floating radar platform, the only one of its kind
in the country, will stand 25 stories and weigh 4
million pounds. It will track incoming warheads so
that remote rockets might destroy them.
[snip]
Chris Taylor of the Pentagon's Missile Defense Agency
said the two components would be assembled within 30
days at the Kiewit Offshore Services facility in Corpus
Christi, normally a construction site for offshore oil
and gas structures for use in the Gulf of Mexico.
The shipyard is in the northern part of Corpus Christi
Bay, about 15 miles northeast of Corpus Christi in the
suburb of Ingleside, an industrial town dotted with
chemical plants and shipyards. It is there that the
radar component is being built.
[mas snip]
The military plans to run mobility tests for the radar
in the Gulf of Mexico before moving it toward the
Pacific in May. The goal is to have the platform in
southern California in September. By the end of the
year, it's scheduled to be at its home port of Adak,
Alaska.
[Y mas]
The government is, however, proposing to reduce
spending on missile defense for fiscal year 2006, as
well as in subsequent years. On the chopping block is
a second SBX radar.
Eugene Griessel
> The floating radar platform, the only one of its kind
> in the country, will stand 25 stories and weigh 4
> million pounds. It will track incoming warheads so
> that remote rockets might destroy them.
Why do they persist on giving dimensions like this? What's a storey?
Is this an official size? And what's wrong with 2000 tons rather than
4 million pounds? Do they think they can charge more for the thing if
they quote in pounds?
Eugene L Griessel www.dynagen.co.za/eugene
Intel - still number 0.999873464508.
Jack Linthicum
The current generation of reporters has no idea how big or what weight
anything is unless the facts are included in a press release. At the
same time the pr people at the place where they make this thing are not
allowed to know anything about the product and must invent numbers that
can later be refuted by the pr people. "We had no idea how big it was,
it just looked very big, and the size in stories enables the average
person (cf the man in the street standing in front of a four story
building) to be awed without shock. The weight is an imaginary number
thought up to indicate that the very bigness should create the possibly
aforemissing awe. Four million pounds is much more than just 2000 tons,
right?
Allen Thomson
Eugene Griessel wrote:
> Why do they persist on giving dimensions like this?
I don't actually know, but suspect that they're supposed
to write for the presumed readership, which is presumed --
likely rightly -- not to know about things like meters,
yards, kilograms, tons/tonnes, etc. Better to give the
readers a vague idea of how big things are than to turn
them off with weird-sounding units.
(I also suspect that many of the journalists aren't really
comfortable with the weird-sounding units either.)
Eugene Griessel
And saying its "fugging huge" does not sit well with the editor
either...
Eugene L Griessel www.dynagen.co.za/eugene
Work is not an end itself there must always been time enough for love.
BF Lake
"Eugene Griessel" <eugene..@..dynagen..co..za> wrote in message
news:423dfec9...@news.uunet.co.za...
> >> Why do they persist on giving dimensions like this?
> >
> >I don't actually know, but suspect that they're supposed
> >to write for the presumed readership, which is presumed --
> >likely rightly -- not to know about things like meters,
> >yards, kilograms, tons/tonnes, etc. Better to give the
> >readers a vague idea of how big things are than to turn
> >them off with weird-sounding units.
> >
> >(I also suspect that many of the journalists aren't really
> >comfortable with the weird-sounding units either.)
> >
> And saying its "fugging huge" does not sit well with the editor
> either...
The report is clearly badly written. All American ships are to be described
in terms of "football fields" in length and beam, and in "Empire State
buildings" in height.. (nobody cares about their draft)
This is useless for Canadians, who use a longer football field than do the
Americans, and the British, who think "football" is soccer, but it should
work for the "target audience."
Regards,
Barry
Howard Berkowitz
"Jack Linthicum" <jackli...@earthlink.net> wrote:
STOP THAT! I am hearing those words rattling around my head in the
voice of John Cleese!
Arved Sandstrom
news:Cto%d.77323$gJ3.66973@clgrps13...
This may date me, but I would have understood a report saying that the
behemoth weighed so many stones, displaced X Imperial barrels of water, was
so many furlongs in length, and was N surveyor's chains wide. And the
strange widget in the engine room weighed 2,555 grains, and was worth five
shillings and a tuppence.
AHS
Andrew Chaplin
news:1111357738.2...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
|
| Eugene Griessel wrote:
| > "Allen Thomson" <thom...@flash.net> wrote:
| >
| > > The floating radar platform, the only one of its kind
| > > in the country, will stand 25 stories and weigh 4
| > > million pounds. It will track incoming warheads so
| > > that remote rockets might destroy them.
| >
| > Why do they persist on giving dimensions like this? What's a storey?
| > Is this an official size? And what's wrong with 2000 tons rather
| than
| > 4 million pounds? Do they think they can charge more for the thing
| if
| > they quote in pounds?
|
| anything is unless the facts are included in a press release. At the
| same time the pr people at the place where they make this thing are not
| allowed to know anything about the product and must invent numbers that
| can later be refuted by the pr people. "We had no idea how big it was,
| it just looked very big, and the size in stories enables the average
| person (cf the man in the street standing in front of a four story
| building) to be awed without shock. The weight is an imaginary number
| thought up to indicate that the very bigness should create the possibly
| aforemissing awe. Four million pounds is much more than just 2000 tons,
| right?
I know this much: four million pounds is a comfortable sum on which to
retire, even in the U.K.
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)
renab...@aol.com
Allen Thomson wrote:
>
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA032005.1A.star_wars.155959f04.html
>
> Defense shield built in Texas
> Web Posted: 03/20/2005 12:00 AM CST
> Jeorge Zarazua
> [San Antonio]Express-News Staff Writer
> [EXCERPTS]
>
> In secluded shipyards near Corpus Christi and
> Brownsville, government contractors quietly are
> finishing work on a mammoth piece of space-age
> weaponry.
>
> The floating radar platform, the only one of its kind
> in the country, will stand 25 stories and weigh 4
> million pounds. It will track incoming warheads so
> that remote rockets might destroy them.
>
SNIP
This is puny.
The TROLL oil & gas platform off Norway is the largest single object
ever moved by man - 656,000 tons of ferro-concrete standing 472 meters
tall and in waters 315-345 meters deep.
Brian Sharrock
"Arved Sandstrom" <asand...@accesswave.ca> wrote in message
news:gTq%d.81397$i6.40744@edtnps90...
Now I get the picture!
I'll bet the widget thingy can see for thousands
of cables!
--
Brian
Jack Linthicum
How many rods in a meter? and are those tonne tons or ton tons?
The largest single object ever moved by man is downtown Hiroshima.
renab...@aol.com
SNIP
Is this a troll? (grin)
Seriously, went back and checked and you are cirrect, the weight is in
tonnes.
Let's not forget tuns as well...
> The largest single object ever moved by man is downtown Hiroshima.
SNIP
We're talking about things that stayed in one piece
Although since Hiroshima was an air burst, the amount of fallout was
comparatively small. I think the Rooskies 60 plus megaton blast in the
early Sixties would set the record on amount of dirt moved to the
stratosphere
bexl...@yahoo.com
Good description of it here:
http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Russia/TsarBomba.html
"Some time after the explosion, photographs were taken of ground zero.
"The ground surface of the island has been levelled, swept and licked
so that it looks like a skating rink," a witness reported. "The same
goes for rocks. The snow has melted and their sides and edges are
shiny. There is not a trace of unevenness in the ground.... Everything
in this area has been swept clean, scoured, melted and blown away."
David
Jack Linthicum
This is the one I was thinking of, also I remember one photo of a large
ship having been 'disappeared' and a small smudge on the mushroom cloud
indicated where it had gone.
http://www.hiroshima-is.ac.jp/Hiroshima/Images/Historic1/Dome.jpg
mike
> Although since Hiroshima was an air burst, the amount of fallout was
> comparatively small. I think the Rooskies 60 plus megaton blast in
the
> early Sixties would set the record on amount of dirt moved to the
> stratosphere
But this was airdropped from much higher up, and detonated at
13,000 foot above the ground.
It was also a 'clean' Fusion device, such as they go, with most of its
energy from that, and not its Fission trigger.
Now compare with the Ivy Mike Fusion 'Device'[1] at Eniwetok, the first
Hydrogen Bomb.
Much smaller, 'only' 10.5 Megatons, but this was a groundburst next
to water, and almost 80% of its yield came from fission- an almost
reverse of Tsar Bomba. Left a crater over 150 feet deep and over a
mile wide.
'Mike' was dirty, and blew 80 million tons of now contaminated dirt
into the air. I beleive that the more powerfull Castle Bravo shot was
even
worse as far as Fallout goes.
[1] Device. 'Bomb' normally implies that it can be moved. Mike was too
big- built in place.
**
mike
**
Paul J. Adam
<asand...@accesswave.ca> writes
>This may date me, but I would have understood a report saying that the
>behemoth weighed so many stones, displaced X Imperial barrels of water, was
>so many furlongs in length, and was N surveyor's chains wide. And the
>strange widget in the engine room weighed 2,555 grains, and was worth five
>shillings and a tuppence.
And had a top speed of Z cables per fortnight.
--
He thinks too much: such men are dangerous.
Julius Caesar I:2
Paul J. Adam MainBox<at>jrwlynch[dot]demon{dot}co(.)uk
Peter Skelton
<ne...@jrwlynch.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In message <gTq%d.81397$i6.40744@edtnps90>, Arved Sandstrom
><asand...@accesswave.ca> writes
>>This may date me, but I would have understood a report saying that the
>>behemoth weighed so many stones, displaced X Imperial barrels of water, was
>>so many furlongs in length, and was N surveyor's chains wide. And the
>>strange widget in the engine room weighed 2,555 grains, and was worth five
>>shillings and a tuppence.
>
>And had a top speed of Z cables per fortnight.
Speed is measured in parsecs per microsecond.
Peter Skelton
Paul J. Adam
<skel...@cogeco.ca> writes
Shall we compromise on cubits per decaweek?
Glenn Dowdy
"Paul J. Adam" <ne...@jrwlynch.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:2O2jFdb4...@jrwlynch.demon.co.uk...
> In message <od7u315sgcgmroae4...@4ax.com>, Peter Skelton
> <skel...@cogeco.ca> writes
>>On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:48:57 +0000, "Paul J. Adam"
>><ne...@jrwlynch.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>And had a top speed of Z cables per fortnight.
>>
>>Speed is measured in parsecs per microsecond.
>
> Shall we compromise on cubits per decaweek?
>
Glenn D.
Peter Skelton
<ne...@jrwlynch.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In message <od7u315sgcgmroae4...@4ax.com>, Peter Skelton
><skel...@cogeco.ca> writes
>>On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:48:57 +0000, "Paul J. Adam"
>><ne...@jrwlynch.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>And had a top speed of Z cables per fortnight.
>>
>>Speed is measured in parsecs per microsecond.
>
>Shall we compromise on cubits per decaweek?
If you kick in a couple of acre-feet of single malt, I'll go
along. You can even help me drink it, shall we invite the ladies?
Peter Skelton
Jack Linthicum
My crossword dictionary settles for "steres" per "nonce"
Allen Thomson
> The military plans to run mobility tests for the radar
> in the Gulf of Mexico before moving it toward the
> Pacific in May.
Inspired to mobility, I drove down to Brownsville this morning and,
as of 1050 CST 22 March 2005, the Moss Sirius platform was gone from
where it had been on previous sightings (most recently 4 Feb 2005)
and was nowhere in sight. I'm making some inquiries to see if it can
be determined when it left Brownsville/arrived at Ingleside.
sfe...@xmission.com
<jackli...@earthlink.net> wrote:
I dare say all the turf sitting on top of the Cannikan shot weighed
even more than that. (A 5Mt shot buried over a mile deep and the
SURFACE lifted 25 FEET.)
Allen Thomson
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=626854
U.S. to Float Giant Missile-Defense Radar to Alaska
Reuters
Mar. 30, 2005
[EXCERPT]
The United States is readying an ultra-sophisticated radar system
to float slowly around the world to Alaska where it will play a
key role in a multibillion-dollar project to shoot down incoming
ballistic missiles.
The 2,000-ton Sea-Based X-Band Radar is to be hoisted aboard a
platform as large as two football fields this week or next,
depending on wind and weather in Corpus Christi, Texas, where
it has been under initial sea trials.
The radar is designed to track and distinguish long-range
ballistic missiles from decoys that could be used in an attack on
the United States.
After being assembled and tested extensively in the Gulf of
Mexico, the entire structure will set sail on a five- to seven-
month trip around Cape Horn at the tip of Latin America and into
the Pacific bound for Alaska's Aleutian islands.
"It will likely leave for its long journey some time between
June and August," said Richard Lehner of the Pentagon's Missile
Defense Agency, which is developing a multilayered shield against
warheads that could carry chemical, germ or nuclear weapons.
The rig, capable of making 7 knots under its own power, should
putter in to its primary base at Adak Island, in the Aleutians,
by the end of the year, Lehner said. Details of its route and
its escorts are not being disclosed publicly for security reasons,
he said.
The platform's on-board propulsion system makes it possible to
operate it in oceans around the world, the Missile Defense Agency
said in a statement last week. It said the Sea-Based X-Band Radar
platform vessel had arrived in Corpus Christi on March 17 from a
shipyard in Brownsville, Texas.
[snip]
Allen Thomson
> Inspired to mobility, I drove down to Brownsville this morning and,
> as of 1050 CST 22 March 2005, the Moss Sirius platform was gone from
> where it had been on previous sightings (most recently 4 Feb 2005)
> and was nowhere in sight. I'm making some inquiries to see if it can
> be determined when it left Brownsville/arrived at Ingleside.
A local source says he saw it at AMFELS at the first of March,
which is consistent with the new report that it got to Corpus
on the 17th.
Allen Thomson
> which is consistent with the new report that it got to Corpus
> on the 17th.
http://www.acq.osd.mil/mda/mdalink/pdf/05fyi0045.pdf says,
Missile Defense Agency
For Your Information
04-FYI-0045
24 March 2005
Sea-Based X-Band Radar Platform Completes Initial At-Sea
Testing Air Force Lt. General Henry "Trey" Obering,
Missile Defense Agency director, announced today that the
Sea-Based X-Band Radar platform vessel has successfully
completed five days of initial at-sea testing, and arrived
at Kiewit Offshore Services in Corpus Christi, Texas, on
March 17. The Sea-based X-band Radar departed the Keppel/
AMFELS shipyard in Brownsville, Texas on March 13 to
conduct "builder's trials." During builder's trials, the
radar platform vessel completed a series of tests intended
to verify the performance and safety of propulsion,
ballasting, power generation, and auxiliary systems.
Allen Thomson
Another infobit about SBX. Note that if "The XBR
was built over a period of 21 months in the Kiewit
Offshore Services shipyard near Corpus Christi,
Texas" is correct, it means that assembly of the
radar started no later than July, 2003 or thereabouts.
Press Release
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050405/netu029.html?.v=2
Raytheon's BMDS X-Band Radar Successfully Lifted
Aboard the SBX-1 Platform
Tuesday April 5, 1:00 pm ET
TEWKSBURY, Mass., April 5, 2005 /PRNewswire/
Raytheon Company's phased array X-Band Radar (XBR)
has been successfully lifted and placed aboard its
host Sea-Based XBR platform, the SBX-1, marking the
completion of a major milestone in support of the
Missile Defense Agency's Ballistic Missile Defense
System (BMDS).
Raytheon Integrated Defense Systems designed and built
the XBR for the BMDS, drawing on extensive sensor
knowledge from its long heritage of radar programs.
The nine-story-high XBR is the world's largest X-Band
Radar, weighing four million pounds. Raytheon's XBR
is the primary payload on the Moss 5 semi-submersible
platform, which was prepared by Boeing Integrated
Defense Systems, the prime contractor for the
Ground-Based Midcourse Defense phase of BMDS.
As a primary sensor for the BMDS, the XBR will track
ballistic missiles and provide the critical
discrimination of target complexes. The radar will
help identify the hostile warhead from the decoys and
countermeasures, providing additional capability for
interceptor missiles to protect the U.S. from
ballistic missile attacks. Aboard the relocatable
SBX-1, the XBR can be positioned in the ocean to
support both testing and actual defensive operations.
"The Sea-Based XBR is a significant addition to the
midcourse phase of the Missile Defense Agency's
layered Ballistic Missile Defense System," said Rick
Yuse, vice president of Raytheon Integrated Defense
Systems Missile Defense Business Area.
"This sophisticated sensor will provide both long range
precision tracking and high confidence identification
of threatening objects and represents a key element of
the Missile Defense Agency's vision of protecting our
homeland from all ranges of threats in all phases of
flight," said Larry Briggs, director, Ground Based
Radars, for Raytheon Integrated Defense Systems.
The XBR was built over a period of 21 months in the
Kiewit Offshore Services shipyard near Corpus Christi,
Texas, and was placed on the SBX-1 floating platform
using Kiewit's Heavy Lift Device, which is capable of
lifting more than 16 million pounds. The radar will
soon complete integration into the SBX-1 system, and
depart for verification testing in the Gulf of Mexico.
Following testing, the vessel will set sail around
Cape Horn for its primary base at Adak Island in
Alaska's Aleutian Islands.
Allen Thomson
MDA, to its considerable credit, is publishing
interesting stuff about SBX.
See
http://www.acq.osd.mil/mda/mdalink/pdf/05fyi0047.pdf
which says (and has a good pic of the operation),
05-FYI-0047
4 April 2005
Missile Defense Agency Completes Sea-Based
Radar "Big Lift"
Air Force Lt. General Henry "Trey" Obering, Missile
Defense Agency director, announced today the
successful completion of lifting and attaching
a 4.6 million pound X-band radar to its sea-going
platform. The 17-hour operation was completed
April 3 at approximately 10:45 p.m. CDT at Kiewit
Offshore Services, Corpus Christi, Texas, by a
combined Boeing, Raytheon, Vertex RSI and Kiewit
team. Over the next several months the Sea-Based
X-band Radar will undergo integration and a wide
range of sea trials and exercises prior to
beginning its journey this summer to its new home
port of Adak, Alaska, in the Aleutian Islands. It
is expected to arrive at Adak by the end of this
year.
Allen Thomson
http://i-newswire.com/pr13407.html
The Boeing-led [NYSE: BA] Sea-Based X-Band Radar
(SBX) industry team has integrated the SBX radar
onto its sea-going platform in Corpus Christi,
Texas, marking a major integration milestone in
the program.
i-Newswire, 2005-04-05 -
"The integration of the massive Sea-Based X-Band
Radar is a critical step in further advancing
the nation's defense against ballistic missile
threats by delivering to the government a
revolutionary sensor capability," said Boeing
Vice President and GMD Program Manager Paul
Hoff. "The addition of such a large-scale radar
gives us increased confidence in the overall
GMD system and added flexibility for defense of
the nation."
SBX, a key component of the Missile Defense
Agency's Ground-based Midcourse Defense ( GMD )
program, consists of an advanced radar system
mounted on a sea-going platform. SBX will be
able to track, discriminate and assess long-
range ballistic missile threats. SBX passes
data to elements of the GMD system to facilitate
the interception of missiles by ground-based
interceptors. The radar will continue to relay
updated targeting information after an
interceptor launches its kill vehicle toward
the incoming target.
SBX's floating platform, a modified oil-drilling
vessel, measures 240 feet wide and 390 feet long.
It includes a power plant, bridge and control
rooms, living quarters, storage areas and the
infrastructure necessary to support the massive
X-band radar. The X-band radar, sitting on top of
the vessel, is the most sophisticated phased
array, electro-mechanically steered X-band radar
in the world, consisting of thousands of antennae
driven by transmit/receive modules.
The SBX "heavy lift" took place using a heavy lift
crane capable of lifting 12,500 tons and built for
loading massive structures onto production
platforms in the petroleum industry. The overall
SBX assembly involved moving the modified SBX
platform from AMFELS shipyard in Brownsville,
Texas, to the Kiewit yard in Corpus Christi for
installation of the radar onto the sea-going
platform. Prior to arrival, the SBX platform was
modified to accept the radar Drive Platform and
Control System ( DPCS ) with the array antenna
and electronics installed. The special crane,
called a heavy lift device ( HLD ), lifted the
SBX DPCS high enough so when the barge was moved
away the SBX platform was positioned directly
below the DPCS. The HLD lifted the DPCS vertical,
held the load until the sea-going platform was
in position and then lowered the load onto the
platform.
As prime contractor for the GMD program, Boeing
is responsible for the development and integration
of the GMD system components, including the SBX;
ground-based interceptor; battle management,
command, control and communication systems; early
warning radars; and interfaces to the Defense
Support Program early warning satellite system.
Raytheon built the SBX radar.
Allen Thomson
Adak split over rent squabble
DOCK TALK: Is Native group landlord moving out
processor in favor of missile defense money?
By WESLEY LOY
Anchorage Daily News
(Published: April 12, 2005)
A legal dispute has erupted on far-flung Adak
pitting the island's fledgling commercial fishing
industry against the Native regional corporation
that's redeveloping the former Adak naval base as
a civilian town.
The dispute centers on failed lease negotiations
between Adak Fisheries and its landlord, Anchorage-
based Aleut Corp.
Attorneys for Adak Fisheries in late March sued Aleut
in state Superior Court in Anchorage, asking a judge
to stop the Native corporation from carrying out a
threat to retake the rented building where the fish
processor said it had invested millions of dollars.
The lawsuit doesn't specify Aleut's reason for such
an action. But at a federal fishery management
meeting Friday in Anchorage, several industry players
said the building and the wharf it fronts might be
needed to support a giant military radar ship soon
to be stationed at Adak.
"That's just conjecture," said Clem Tillion, a
consultant to the Aleut Corp. "I don't know that
for sure."
But Tillion said he understands the military needs
storage space and a place to moor support vessels
for the radar ship, which will operate offshore.
The support vessels might include a warship, he
said.
The radar ship is part of the new national
ballistic missile defense system that also
involves Fort Greely and Kodiak Island in Alaska.
Sandra Moller, president of the Aleut Enterprise
Corp., a subsidiary of the Aleut Corp. and landlord
for Adak Fisheries, declined to comment on the
lawsuit.
But she did say that the military's X-band radar
ship is expected to depart in June from Corpus
Christi, Texas, and sail around the tip of South
America to Adak. The ship should be in place by
year's end, she said.
Moller would not say whether the building and dock
now occupied by Adak Fisheries are needed for the
radar ship. She said that the town has another dock
available and that Aleut has not evicted the fish
processor.
Adak is in the Aleutian Chain, about 1,200 miles
southwest of Anchorage. The Aleut Corp. took over
the former naval base there last year in a land
swap with the federal government, and now it's
trying to rebirth the island as a civilian fishing
town.
Adak Fisheries is the only fish processing plant
on Adak and one of the main businesses in the new
town, which has about 100 permanent residents.
A letter from an attorney for Aleut said Adak
Fisheries had "month-to-month tenancy" and "past-
due obligations."
Kjetil Solberg, chief executive of Adak Fisheries,
was out of state and could not be reached for
comment.
But in court papers, Solberg said that his company
has a 30-year lease and that Aleut had threatened
to take possession of the fish processing building
on April 1.
That would be economically disastrous for Adak
Fisheries; it would force the business and its
crew of 25 people to shut down, Solberg said.
In 2004 alone, the company invested $3.4 million
on its Adak operation, including construction,
machinery purchases, electrical work and other
improvements, he said.
The lawsuit asks the court to order mediation of
the lease dispute and to block Aleut from retaking
the building.
Daily News reporter Wesley Loy can be reached at
wl...@adn.com or 257-4590.
John Bonnett
"Allen Thomson" <thom...@flash.net> wrote in message
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> A bit of local weirdness:
>
>
> Adak split over rent squabble
> DOCK TALK: Is Native group landlord moving out
> processor in favor of missile defense money?
> By WESLEY LOY
> Anchorage Daily News
> (Published: April 12, 2005)
>
> A legal dispute has erupted on far-flung Adak
> pitting the island's fledgling commercial fishing
> industry against the Native regional corporation
> that's redeveloping the former Adak naval base as
> a civilian town.
>
Wozzle ! I spent 367 days of my mis-spent youth (71-72)
on sunny Adak. Lately, given satellite Internet access
and DirectTV, I've been thinking it would make a nice,
quiet place to retire. Assuming Reeves still flies there,
of course :-)
Is the Dinosaur Cage still standing at NAVCOMSTA ?
John<unless Mt. Sitkin erupts, of course !
Doug Ventura
last sentence. "Ace"
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