Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 2:26 PM Subject: BULLETIN! Reinforcements needed in Campo, Ca.
Dear Americans,
Reinforcements are needed in Campo, Ca. immediately to support Jim Chase's California Minutemen, who have deployed for border observation and reporting activities from July 16 through at least August 7 (and beyond).
I visited Jim Chase's group, accompanied with a California state senator and his aides, last Saturday. We witnessed the literal seige of VFW Post #2080 by about 60 belligerant, death-threatening anti-Americans twice during that day. The hate-spewing members of the racist, American-hating organization known as the Mexican brown berets, stormed the VFW Lodge, damaging signs and other property. They were eventually repelled by the late-arriving San Diego County Sheriff's Dept. No arrests were made.
The California state senator and his aides took serious note of the hostilities and violence conducted by the Nazi-like, anarchist brown berets. Americans...these goons are incurably evil and have a history of routinely suppressing the First Amendment rights of Americans through acts of violence and threats of death.
Our First Amendment rights of freedom to peacefully assemble and speak are in serious jeopardy, and it is time a stand is taken to preserve these rights.
The rampage was orchestrated by Armando Navarro, a known anti-American racist, who holds a comfortable, taxpayer funded, tenured position as a professor (of hate and blood-letting?) at the University of California - Riverside, Ca., and who has devoted his life to promoting the Mexican conquest of the seven southwestern US states. He calls for the conquest to be carried out by force, if necessary. Navarro, and his minions whose combined IQ was that of a dead house plant, all appeared to be under the influence of drugs.
One California Minuteman volunteer, Jim Woods, was physically assaulted by a gang of ten of Navarro's thugs as he sat in his car alone at a border outpost. He was physically restrained in his car seat by the brown berets, who threatened to kill him. They stole his keys from the ignition and left him stranded without food or water for several hours. When Jim Woods identified two of the gang members to the Sheriff's Dept. and asked for an arrest, no action was taken by the Sheriff's deputies. One deputy just responded to Mr. Wood's plea for help with "Oh, you just lost your keys," despite repeated pleas to the contrary from Mr. Woods.
I am returning to Campo this week. Volunteers from anywhere in the United States are welcome to join me as soon as possible. Two minuteman groups from Texas have already committed to arrive this week. I am also requesting reinforcements from Chris Simcox's Minuteman Civil Defense Corps in Tombstone, Az. and from select members of another well-known California border watch group that operates independently from The Minuteman Project.
Navarro's anarchist's attempted to shut down, and trash, the VFW lodge because the lodge allowed thirsty and hungry California Minutemen volunteers to purchase food and water from its restaurant. Their attempts to bring down the U.S. flag were thwarted by Jim Chase's California Minutemen.
Our goals here are twofold:
1. Protect the rights of ALL Americans to freely and peacefully assemble without being physically assaulted, or threatened with violence to maim or kill them by the mindless minions of the Univ. of California's "Professor of Hate", Armando Navarro.
2. Protect America's war veterans at VFW Lodge 2080, in Campo, Ca. from being battered by literal thugs with clubs and to protect the property of that lodge from being destroyed.
3. Simultaneously, volunteers are forming to protest at the Univ. of Ca. - Riverside, demanding the ouster of Navarro from his department at a state funded institution, which Navarro has selfishly turned into a department of tyranny.
Americans, saddle up! Let's Roll! Contact California Minutemen in Campo, Ca. at 760-272-0525...asap. The VFW lodge address is 301 Sheridan in Campo, Ca.
Be warned that the roving gangs of adversaries engaging the California Minutemen WILL physically attack you if they outnumber you. I repeat, they WILL physically attack you. Stay in groups, and stay LEGALLY armed with pepper spray...tasers...etc. Sidearms are legal in certain areas in Campo. Confer with Jim Chase on the issue of sidearms. I am remaining unarmed, but will have legally armed body guards with me while I am in Campo.
Remember, remain passive. However, that does not mean you cannot defend yourself against threats to your safety by incoherrent mobs of gangsters who are determined to do you physical harm.
It truly is a sad day in America when the First Amendment rights are preserved only for those who carry the biggest stick. The alternative is to remain a cringing little mouse and forever relinquish your unalienable rights to peacefully speak or assemble.
Good Luck, Americans. May God, patriotism, and country be with you. See you in Campo.
Jim Gilchrist, Founder - The Minuteman Project - Americans doing the jobs Congress won't do.
>Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 2:26 PM Subject: BULLETIN! Reinforcements >needed in Campo, Ca.
>Dear Americans,
>Reinforcements are needed in Campo, Ca. immediately to support Jim >Chase's California Minutemen, who have deployed for border observation >and reporting activities from July 16 through at least August 7 (and >beyond).
>I visited Jim Chase's group, accompanied with a California state >senator and his aides, last Saturday. We witnessed the literal seige >of VFW Post #2080 by about 60 belligerant, death-threatening >anti-Americans twice during that day. The hate-spewing members of the >racist, American-hating organization known as the Mexican brown >berets, stormed the VFW Lodge, damaging signs and other property. They >were eventually repelled by the late-arriving San Diego County >Sheriff's Dept. No arrests were made.
>The California state senator and his aides took serious note of the >hostilities and violence conducted by the Nazi-like, anarchist brown >berets. Americans...these goons are incurably evil and have a history >of routinely suppressing the First Amendment rights of Americans >through acts of violence and threats of death.
>Our First Amendment rights of freedom to peacefully assemble and speak >are in serious jeopardy, and it is time a stand is taken to preserve >these rights.
>The rampage was orchestrated by Armando Navarro, a known anti-American >racist, who holds a comfortable, taxpayer funded, tenured position as >a professor (of hate and blood-letting?) at the University of >California - Riverside, Ca., and who has devoted his life to promoting >the Mexican conquest of the seven southwestern US states. He calls for >the conquest to be carried out by force, if necessary. Navarro, and >his minions whose combined IQ was that of a dead house plant, all >appeared to be under the influence of drugs.
>One California Minuteman volunteer, Jim Woods, was physically >assaulted by a gang of ten of Navarro's thugs as he sat in his car >alone at a border outpost. He was physically restrained in his car >seat by the brown berets, who threatened to kill him. They stole his >keys from the ignition and left him stranded without food or water for >several hours. When Jim Woods identified two of the gang members to >the Sheriff's Dept. and asked for an arrest, no action was taken by >the Sheriff's deputies. One deputy just responded to Mr. Wood's plea >for help with "Oh, you just lost your keys," despite repeated pleas to >the contrary from Mr. Woods.
>I am returning to Campo this week. Volunteers from anywhere in the >United States are welcome to join me as soon as possible. Two >minuteman groups from Texas have already committed to arrive this >week. I am also requesting reinforcements from Chris Simcox's >Minuteman Civil Defense Corps in Tombstone, Az. and from select >members of another well-known California border watch group that >operates independently from The Minuteman Project.
>Navarro's anarchist's attempted to shut down, and trash, the VFW lodge >because the lodge allowed thirsty and hungry California Minutemen >volunteers to purchase food and water from its restaurant. Their >attempts to bring down the U.S. flag were thwarted by Jim Chase's >California Minutemen.
>Our goals here are twofold:
>1. Protect the rights of ALL Americans to freely and peacefully >assemble without being physically assaulted, or threatened with >violence to maim or kill them by the mindless minions of the Univ. of >California's "Professor of Hate", Armando Navarro.
>2. Protect America's war veterans at VFW Lodge 2080, in Campo, Ca. >from being battered by literal thugs with clubs and to protect the >property of that lodge from being destroyed.
>3. Simultaneously, volunteers are forming to protest at the Univ. of >Ca. - Riverside, demanding the ouster of Navarro from his department >at a state funded institution, which Navarro has selfishly turned into >a department of tyranny.
>Americans, saddle up! Let's Roll! Contact California Minutemen in >Campo, Ca. at 760-272-0525...asap. The VFW lodge address is 301 >Sheridan in Campo, Ca.
>Be warned that the roving gangs of adversaries engaging the California >Minutemen WILL physically attack you if they outnumber you. I repeat, >they WILL physically attack you. Stay in groups, and stay LEGALLY >armed with pepper spray...tasers...etc. Sidearms are legal in certain >areas in Campo. Confer with Jim Chase on the issue of sidearms. I am >remaining unarmed, but will have legally armed body guards with me >while I am in Campo.
>Remember, remain passive. However, that does not mean you cannot >defend yourself against threats to your safety by incoherrent mobs of >gangsters who are determined to do you physical harm.
>It truly is a sad day in America when the First Amendment rights are >preserved only for those who carry the biggest stick. The alternative >is to remain a cringing little mouse and forever relinquish your >unalienable rights to peacefully speak or assemble.
>Good Luck, Americans. May God, patriotism, and country be with you. >See you in Campo.
>Jim Gilchrist, Founder - The Minuteman Project - Americans doing the >jobs Congress won't do.
The Minutemen have my full support. I wish that I could travel to California to support you in person. General U.S. Grant,(U.S. Civil War General and U.S. President) would see the current immigration crisis as worst than that that prompted the U.S. Civil War as this immigration crisis is based upon corruption,surreptitious behavior, and criminal behavior, and intimidation at all levels of government and will and has the affect of destroying the USA and the US Constitution. A recent poll of the VFW showed that the majority of VFW members view the Minutemen as Patriot Heros. The new "Veterans Party", of which I am a member, strongly opposes illegal immigration. I served with the US Army;4th Inf. Div.;2/8th Inf.;Republic of Vietnam 1969-1970
> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 2:26 PM Subject: BULLETIN! Reinforcements > needed in Campo, Ca.
> Dear Americans,
> Reinforcements are needed in Campo, Ca. immediately to support Jim > Chase's California Minutemen, who have deployed for border observation > and reporting activities from July 16 through at least August 7 (and > beyond).
> I visited Jim Chase's group, accompanied with a California state > senator and his aides, last Saturday. We witnessed the literal seige > of VFW Post #2080 by about 60 belligerant, death-threatening > anti-Americans twice during that day. The hate-spewing members of the > racist, American-hating organization known as the Mexican brown > berets, stormed the VFW Lodge, damaging signs and other property. They > were eventually repelled by the late-arriving San Diego County > Sheriff's Dept. No arrests were made.
Why not?
> The California state senator and his aides took serious note of the > hostilities and violence conducted by the Nazi-like, anarchist brown > berets. Americans...these goons are incurably evil and have a history > of routinely suppressing the First Amendment rights of Americans > through acts of violence and threats of death.
> Our First Amendment rights of freedom to peacefully assemble and speak > are in serious jeopardy, and it is time a stand is taken to preserve > these rights.
> The rampage was orchestrated by Armando Navarro, a known anti-American > racist, who holds a comfortable, taxpayer funded, tenured position as > a professor (of hate and blood-letting?) at the University of > California - Riverside, Ca., and who has devoted his life to promoting > the Mexican conquest of the seven southwestern US states. He calls for > the conquest to be carried out by force, if necessary. Navarro, and > his minions whose combined IQ was that of a dead house plant, all > appeared to be under the influence of drugs.
> One California Minuteman volunteer, Jim Woods, was physically > assaulted by a gang of ten of Navarro's thugs as he sat in his car > alone at a border outpost. He was physically restrained in his car > seat by the brown berets, who threatened to kill him. They stole his > keys from the ignition and left him stranded without food or water for > several hours. When Jim Woods identified two of the gang members to > the Sheriff's Dept. and asked for an arrest, no action was taken by > the Sheriff's deputies. One deputy just responded to Mr. Wood's plea > for help with "Oh, you just lost your keys," despite repeated pleas to > the contrary from Mr. Woods.
Why didn't Mr. Woods unholster his pistol and shoot the bastards?
>Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 2:26 PM Subject: BULLETIN! Reinforcements >needed in Campo, Ca.
>Dear Americans,
>Reinforcements are needed in Campo, Ca. immediately to support Jim >Chase's California Minutemen, who have deployed for border observation >and reporting activities from July 16 through at least August 7 (and >beyond).
>I visited Jim Chase's group, accompanied with a California state >senator and his aides, last Saturday. We witnessed the literal seige >of VFW Post #2080 by about 60 belligerant, death-threatening >anti-Americans twice during that day. The hate-spewing members of the >racist, American-hating organization known as the Mexican brown >berets, stormed the VFW Lodge, damaging signs and other property. They >were eventually repelled by the late-arriving San Diego County >Sheriff's Dept. No arrests were made.
>The California state senator and his aides took serious note of the >hostilities and violence conducted by the Nazi-like, anarchist brown >berets. Americans...these goons are incurably evil and have a history >of routinely suppressing the First Amendment rights of Americans >through acts of violence and threats of death.
>Our First Amendment rights of freedom to peacefully assemble and speak >are in serious jeopardy, and it is time a stand is taken to preserve >these rights.
>The rampage was orchestrated by Armando Navarro, a known anti-American >racist, who holds a comfortable, taxpayer funded, tenured position as >a professor (of hate and blood-letting?) at the University of >California - Riverside, Ca., and who has devoted his life to promoting >the Mexican conquest of the seven southwestern US states. He calls for >the conquest to be carried out by force, if necessary. Navarro, and >his minions whose combined IQ was that of a dead house plant, all >appeared to be under the influence of drugs.
>One California Minuteman volunteer, Jim Woods, was physically >assaulted by a gang of ten of Navarro's thugs as he sat in his car >alone at a border outpost. He was physically restrained in his car >seat by the brown berets, who threatened to kill him. They stole his >keys from the ignition and left him stranded without food or water for >several hours. When Jim Woods identified two of the gang members to >the Sheriff's Dept. and asked for an arrest, no action was taken by >the Sheriff's deputies. One deputy just responded to Mr. Wood's plea >for help with "Oh, you just lost your keys," despite repeated pleas to >the contrary from Mr. Woods.
>I am returning to Campo this week. Volunteers from anywhere in the >United States are welcome to join me as soon as possible. Two >minuteman groups from Texas have already committed to arrive this >week. I am also requesting reinforcements from Chris Simcox's >Minuteman Civil Defense Corps in Tombstone, Az. and from select >members of another well-known California border watch group that >operates independently from The Minuteman Project.
>Navarro's anarchist's attempted to shut down, and trash, the VFW lodge >because the lodge allowed thirsty and hungry California Minutemen >volunteers to purchase food and water from its restaurant. Their >attempts to bring down the U.S. flag were thwarted by Jim Chase's >California Minutemen.
>Our goals here are twofold:
>1. Protect the rights of ALL Americans to freely and peacefully >assemble without being physically assaulted, or threatened with >violence to maim or kill them by the mindless minions of the Univ. of >California's "Professor of Hate", Armando Navarro.
>2. Protect America's war veterans at VFW Lodge 2080, in Campo, Ca. >from being battered by literal thugs with clubs and to protect the >property of that lodge from being destroyed.
>3. Simultaneously, volunteers are forming to protest at the Univ. of >Ca. - Riverside, demanding the ouster of Navarro from his department >at a state funded institution, which Navarro has selfishly turned into >a department of tyranny.
>Americans, saddle up! Let's Roll! Contact California Minutemen in >Campo, Ca. at 760-272-0525...asap. The VFW lodge address is 301 >Sheridan in Campo, Ca.
>Be warned that the roving gangs of adversaries engaging the California >Minutemen WILL physically attack you if they outnumber you. I repeat, >they WILL physically attack you. Stay in groups, and stay LEGALLY >armed with pepper spray...tasers...etc. Sidearms are legal in certain >areas in Campo. Confer with Jim Chase on the issue of sidearms. I am >remaining unarmed, but will have legally armed body guards with me >while I am in Campo.
>Remember, remain passive. However, that does not mean you cannot >defend yourself against threats to your safety by incoherrent mobs of >gangsters who are determined to do you physical harm.
>It truly is a sad day in America when the First Amendment rights are >preserved only for those who carry the biggest stick. The alternative >is to remain a cringing little mouse and forever relinquish your >unalienable rights to peacefully speak or assemble.
>Good Luck, Americans. May God, patriotism, and country be with you. >See you in Campo.
>Jim Gilchrist, Founder - The Minuteman Project - Americans doing the >jobs Congress won't do.
>"Cosmic upheaval is not so moving as a little child pondering the death >of a sparrow in the corner of a barn." -Anouk Aimee, French Actor >_____
>"Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny", Aeschylus (525BC-456BC), >Agamemnon >_____
>"I wear no Burka." - Mother Nature
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"So, likewise, a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification. It leads also to concessions to the favorite nation of privileges denied to others, which is apt doubly to injure the nation making the concessions by unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained, and by exciting jealousy, ill will, and a disposition to retaliate in the parties from whom equal privileges are withheld . . .
"Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (I conjure you to believe me, fellow-citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government . . . Excessive partiality for one foreign nation and excessive dislike of another cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on the other. Real patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people to surrender their interests.
" . . . nothing is more essential than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations and passionate attachments for others should be excluded, and that in place of them just and amicable feelings toward all should be cultivated. The nation which indulges toward another an habitual hatred or an habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest."
-- President George Washington Farewell Address September 26, 1796
>>Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 2:26 PM Subject: BULLETIN! Reinforcements >>needed in Campo, Ca.
>>Dear Americans,
>>Reinforcements are needed in Campo, Ca. immediately to support Jim >>Chase's California Minutemen, who have deployed for border observation >>and reporting activities from July 16 through at least August 7 (and >>beyond).
>>I visited Jim Chase's group, accompanied with a California state >>senator and his aides, last Saturday. We witnessed the literal seige >>of VFW Post #2080 by about 60 belligerant, death-threatening >>anti-Americans twice during that day. The hate-spewing members of the >>racist, American-hating organization known as the Mexican brown >>berets, stormed the VFW Lodge, damaging signs and other property. They >>were eventually repelled by the late-arriving San Diego County >>Sheriff's Dept. No arrests were made.
> Why not?
>>The California state senator and his aides took serious note of the >>hostilities and violence conducted by the Nazi-like, anarchist brown >>berets. Americans...these goons are incurably evil and have a history >>of routinely suppressing the First Amendment rights of Americans >>through acts of violence and threats of death.
>>Our First Amendment rights of freedom to peacefully assemble and speak >>are in serious jeopardy, and it is time a stand is taken to preserve >>these rights.
> Which is exactly why the Second Amendment exists.
>>The rampage was orchestrated by Armando Navarro, a known anti-American >>racist, who holds a comfortable, taxpayer funded, tenured position as >>a professor (of hate and blood-letting?) at the University of >>California - Riverside, Ca., and who has devoted his life to promoting >>the Mexican conquest of the seven southwestern US states. He calls for >>the conquest to be carried out by force, if necessary. Navarro, and >>his minions whose combined IQ was that of a dead house plant, all >>appeared to be under the influence of drugs.
>>One California Minuteman volunteer, Jim Woods, was physically >>assaulted by a gang of ten of Navarro's thugs as he sat in his car >>alone at a border outpost. He was physically restrained in his car >>seat by the brown berets, who threatened to kill him. They stole his >>keys from the ignition and left him stranded without food or water for >>several hours. When Jim Woods identified two of the gang members to >>the Sheriff's Dept. and asked for an arrest, no action was taken by >>the Sheriff's deputies. One deputy just responded to Mr. Wood's plea >>for help with "Oh, you just lost your keys," despite repeated pleas to >>the contrary from Mr. Woods.
> Why didn't Mr. Woods unholster his pistol and shoot the bastards?
Because it is illegal for American citizens to defend American interests and ourselves! Don't you know that would upset elPresedente?
> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 2:26 PM Subject: BULLETIN! Reinforcements > needed in Campo, Ca.
> Dear Americans,
> Reinforcements are needed in Campo, Ca. immediately to support Jim > Chase's California Minutemen, who have deployed for border observation > and reporting activities from July 16 through at least August 7 (and > beyond).
> I visited Jim Chase's group, accompanied with a California state > senator and his aides, last Saturday. We witnessed the literal seige > of VFW Post #2080 by about 60 belligerant, death-threatening > anti-Americans twice during that day. The hate-spewing members of the > racist, American-hating organization known as the Mexican brown > berets, stormed the VFW Lodge, damaging signs and other property. They > were eventually repelled by the late-arriving San Diego County > Sheriff's Dept. No arrests were made.
> The California state senator and his aides took serious note of the > hostilities and violence conducted by the Nazi-like, anarchist brown > berets. Americans...these goons are incurably evil and have a history > of routinely suppressing the First Amendment rights of Americans > through acts of violence and threats of death.
> Our First Amendment rights of freedom to peacefully assemble and speak > are in serious jeopardy, and it is time a stand is taken to preserve > these rights.
> The rampage was orchestrated by Armando Navarro, a known anti-American > racist, who holds a comfortable, taxpayer funded, tenured position as > a professor (of hate and blood-letting?) at the University of > California - Riverside, Ca., and who has devoted his life to promoting > the Mexican conquest of the seven southwestern US states. He calls for > the conquest to be carried out by force, if necessary. Navarro, and > his minions whose combined IQ was that of a dead house plant, all > appeared to be under the influence of drugs.
> One California Minuteman volunteer, Jim Woods, was physically > assaulted by a gang of ten of Navarro's thugs as he sat in his car > alone at a border outpost. He was physically restrained in his car > seat by the brown berets, who threatened to kill him. They stole his > keys from the ignition and left him stranded without food or water for > several hours. When Jim Woods identified two of the gang members to > the Sheriff's Dept. and asked for an arrest, no action was taken by > the Sheriff's deputies. One deputy just responded to Mr. Wood's plea > for help with "Oh, you just lost your keys," despite repeated pleas to > the contrary from Mr. Woods.
> I am returning to Campo this week. Volunteers from anywhere in the > United States are welcome to join me as soon as possible. Two > minuteman groups from Texas have already committed to arrive this > week. I am also requesting reinforcements from Chris Simcox's > Minuteman Civil Defense Corps in Tombstone, Az. and from select > members of another well-known California border watch group that > operates independently from The Minuteman Project.
> Navarro's anarchist's attempted to shut down, and trash, the VFW lodge > because the lodge allowed thirsty and hungry California Minutemen > volunteers to purchase food and water from its restaurant. Their > attempts to bring down the U.S. flag were thwarted by Jim Chase's > California Minutemen.
> Our goals here are twofold:
> 1. Protect the rights of ALL Americans to freely and peacefully > assemble without being physically assaulted, or threatened with > violence to maim or kill them by the mindless minions of the Univ. of > California's "Professor of Hate", Armando Navarro.
> 2. Protect America's war veterans at VFW Lodge 2080, in Campo, Ca. > from being battered by literal thugs with clubs and to protect the > property of that lodge from being destroyed.
> 3. Simultaneously, volunteers are forming to protest at the Univ. of > Ca. - Riverside, demanding the ouster of Navarro from his department > at a state funded institution, which Navarro has selfishly turned into > a department of tyranny.
> Americans, saddle up! Let's Roll! Contact California Minutemen in > Campo, Ca. at 760-272-0525...asap. The VFW lodge address is 301 > Sheridan in Campo, Ca.
> Be warned that the roving gangs of adversaries engaging the California > Minutemen WILL physically attack you if they outnumber you. I repeat, > they WILL physically attack you. Stay in groups, and stay LEGALLY > armed with pepper spray...tasers...etc. Sidearms are legal in certain > areas in Campo. Confer with Jim Chase on the issue of sidearms. I am > remaining unarmed, but will have legally armed body guards with me > while I am in Campo.
> Remember, remain passive. However, that does not mean you cannot > defend yourself against threats to your safety by incoherrent mobs of > gangsters who are determined to do you physical harm.
> It truly is a sad day in America when the First Amendment rights are > preserved only for those who carry the biggest stick. The alternative > is to remain a cringing little mouse and forever relinquish your > unalienable rights to peacefully speak or assemble.
> Good Luck, Americans. May God, patriotism, and country be with you. > See you in Campo.
> Jim Gilchrist, Founder - The Minuteman Project - Americans doing the > jobs Congress won't do.
>> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 2:26 PM Subject: BULLETIN! Reinforcements >> needed in Campo, Ca.
>> Dear Americans,
>> Reinforcements are needed in Campo, Ca. immediately to support Jim >> Chase's California Minutemen, who have deployed for border observation >> and reporting activities from July 16 through at least August 7 (and >> beyond).
>> I visited Jim Chase's group, accompanied with a California state >> senator and his aides, last Saturday. We witnessed the literal seige >> of VFW Post #2080 by about 60 belligerant, death-threatening >> anti-Americans twice during that day. The hate-spewing members of the >> racist, American-hating organization known as the Mexican brown >> berets, stormed the VFW Lodge, damaging signs and other property. They >> were eventually repelled by the late-arriving San Diego County >> Sheriff's Dept. No arrests were made.
> Why not?
>> The California state senator and his aides took serious note of the >> hostilities and violence conducted by the Nazi-like, anarchist brown >> berets. Americans...these goons are incurably evil and have a history >> of routinely suppressing the First Amendment rights of Americans >> through acts of violence and threats of death.
>> Our First Amendment rights of freedom to peacefully assemble and speak >> are in serious jeopardy, and it is time a stand is taken to preserve >> these rights.
> Which is exactly why the Second Amendment exists.
>> The rampage was orchestrated by Armando Navarro, a known anti-American >> racist, who holds a comfortable, taxpayer funded, tenured position as >> a professor (of hate and blood-letting?) at the University of >> California - Riverside, Ca., and who has devoted his life to promoting >> the Mexican conquest of the seven southwestern US states. He calls for >> the conquest to be carried out by force, if necessary. Navarro, and >> his minions whose combined IQ was that of a dead house plant, all >> appeared to be under the influence of drugs.
>> One California Minuteman volunteer, Jim Woods, was physically >> assaulted by a gang of ten of Navarro's thugs as he sat in his car >> alone at a border outpost. He was physically restrained in his car >> seat by the brown berets, who threatened to kill him. They stole his >> keys from the ignition and left him stranded without food or water for >> several hours. When Jim Woods identified two of the gang members to >> the Sheriff's Dept. and asked for an arrest, no action was taken by >> the Sheriff's deputies. One deputy just responded to Mr. Wood's plea >> for help with "Oh, you just lost your keys," despite repeated pleas to >> the contrary from Mr. Woods.
> Why didn't Mr. Woods unholster his pistol and shoot the bastards?
Good question. Even more bizarre is why they were not arrested for assault and kidnapping.
>A villainous (and shallow) Graphic Queen posted: >>All of us know why not. Illegals and the people who love them can do >>whatever they like no matter what.
>Reminiscent of the Nazi mantra, "Jew lovers".
Notice how the cowardly OBL have absolutely no scruples in scraping the bottom of the barrel.
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 17:04:32 -0700, WakeUp2...@adelphia.net wrote: > The following post needs to be posted to the law-enforcement, >veterans and active-duty military newsgroups as well!
>>Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 2:26 PM Subject: BULLETIN! Reinforcements >>needed in Campo, Ca.
>>Dear Americans,
>>Reinforcements are needed in Campo, Ca. immediately to support Jim >>Chase's California Minutemen, who have deployed for border observation >>and reporting activities from July 16 through at least August 7 (and >>beyond).
>>I visited Jim Chase's group, accompanied with a California state >>senator and his aides, last Saturday. We witnessed the literal seige >>of VFW Post #2080 by about 60 belligerant, death-threatening >>anti-Americans twice during that day. The hate-spewing members of the >>racist, American-hating organization known as the Mexican brown >>berets, stormed the VFW Lodge, damaging signs and other property. They >>were eventually repelled by the late-arriving San Diego County >>Sheriff's Dept. No arrests were made.
>>The California state senator and his aides took serious note of the >>hostilities and violence conducted by the Nazi-like, anarchist brown >>berets. Americans...these goons are incurably evil and have a history >>of routinely suppressing the First Amendment rights of Americans >>through acts of violence and threats of death.
>>Our First Amendment rights of freedom to peacefully assemble and speak >>are in serious jeopardy, and it is time a stand is taken to preserve >>these rights.
>>The rampage was orchestrated by Armando Navarro, a known anti-American >>racist, who holds a comfortable, taxpayer funded, tenured position as >>a professor (of hate and blood-letting?) at the University of >>California - Riverside, Ca., and who has devoted his life to promoting >>the Mexican conquest of the seven southwestern US states. He calls for >>the conquest to be carried out by force, if necessary. Navarro, and >>his minions whose combined IQ was that of a dead house plant, all >>appeared to be under the influence of drugs.
>>One California Minuteman volunteer, Jim Woods, was physically >>assaulted by a gang of ten of Navarro's thugs as he sat in his car >>alone at a border outpost. He was physically restrained in his car >>seat by the brown berets, who threatened to kill him. They stole his >>keys from the ignition and left him stranded without food or water for >>several hours. When Jim Woods identified two of the gang members to >>the Sheriff's Dept. and asked for an arrest, no action was taken by >>the Sheriff's deputies. One deputy just responded to Mr. Wood's plea >>for help with "Oh, you just lost your keys," despite repeated pleas to >>the contrary from Mr. Woods.
>>I am returning to Campo this week. Volunteers from anywhere in the >>United States are welcome to join me as soon as possible. Two >>minuteman groups from Texas have already committed to arrive this >>week. I am also requesting reinforcements from Chris Simcox's >>Minuteman Civil Defense Corps in Tombstone, Az. and from select >>members of another well-known California border watch group that >>operates independently from The Minuteman Project.
>>Navarro's anarchist's attempted to shut down, and trash, the VFW lodge >>because the lodge allowed thirsty and hungry California Minutemen >>volunteers to purchase food and water from its restaurant. Their >>attempts to bring down the U.S. flag were thwarted by Jim Chase's >>California Minutemen.
>>Our goals here are twofold:
>>1. Protect the rights of ALL Americans to freely and peacefully >>assemble without being physically assaulted, or threatened with >>violence to maim or kill them by the mindless minions of the Univ. of >>California's "Professor of Hate", Armando Navarro.
>>2. Protect America's war veterans at VFW Lodge 2080, in Campo, Ca. >>from being battered by literal thugs with clubs and to protect the >>property of that lodge from being destroyed.
>>3. Simultaneously, volunteers are forming to protest at the Univ. of >>Ca. - Riverside, demanding the ouster of Navarro from his department >>at a state funded institution, which Navarro has selfishly turned into >>a department of tyranny.
>>Americans, saddle up! Let's Roll! Contact California Minutemen in >>Campo, Ca. at 760-272-0525...asap. The VFW lodge address is 301 >>Sheridan in Campo, Ca.
>>Be warned that the roving gangs of adversaries engaging the California >>Minutemen WILL physically attack you if they outnumber you. I repeat, >>they WILL physically attack you. Stay in groups, and stay LEGALLY >>armed with pepper spray...tasers...etc. Sidearms are legal in certain >>areas in Campo. Confer with Jim Chase on the issue of sidearms. I am >>remaining unarmed, but will have legally armed body guards with me >>while I am in Campo.
>>Remember, remain passive. However, that does not mean you cannot >>defend yourself against threats to your safety by incoherrent mobs of >>gangsters who are determined to do you physical harm.
>>It truly is a sad day in America when the First Amendment rights are >>preserved only for those who carry the biggest stick. The alternative >>is to remain a cringing little mouse and forever relinquish your >>unalienable rights to peacefully speak or assemble.
>>Good Luck, Americans. May God, patriotism, and country be with you. >>See you in Campo.
>>Jim Gilchrist, Founder - The Minuteman Project - Americans doing the >>jobs Congress won't do.
>>"Cosmic upheaval is not so moving as a little child pondering the death >>of a sparrow in the corner of a barn." -Anouk Aimee, French Actor >>_____
>>"Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny", Aeschylus (525BC-456BC), >>Agamemnon >>_____
>>"I wear no Burka." - Mother Nature
>>---------- >>To send mail: remove hutch
> "So, likewise, a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification. It leads also to concessions to the favorite nation of privileges denied to others, which is apt doubly to injure the nation making the concessions by unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained, and by exciting jealousy, ill will, and a disposition to retaliate in the parties from whom equal privileges are withheld . . .
> "Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (I conjure you to believe me, fellow-citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government . . . Excessive partiality for one foreign nation and excessive dislike of another cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on the other. Real patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people to surrender their interests.
> " . . . nothing is more essential than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations and passionate attachments for others should be excluded, and that in place of them just and amicable feelings toward all should be cultivated. The nation which indulges toward another an habitual hatred or an habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest."
> -- President George Washington > Farewell Address > September 26, 1796
> A villainous (and shallow) Graphic Queen posted: >>All of us know why not. Illegals and the people who love them can do >>whatever they like no matter what.
>>>Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 2:26 PM Subject: BULLETIN! Reinforcements >>>needed in Campo, Ca.
>>>Dear Americans,
>>>Reinforcements are needed in Campo, Ca. immediately to support Jim >>>Chase's California Minutemen, who have deployed for border observation >>>and reporting activities from July 16 through at least August 7 (and >>>beyond).
>>>I visited Jim Chase's group, accompanied with a California state >>>senator and his aides, last Saturday. We witnessed the literal seige >>>of VFW Post #2080 by about 60 belligerant, death-threatening >>>anti-Americans twice during that day. The hate-spewing members of the >>>racist, American-hating organization known as the Mexican brown >>>berets, stormed the VFW Lodge, damaging signs and other property. They >>>were eventually repelled by the late-arriving San Diego County >>>Sheriff's Dept. No arrests were made.
>> Why not?
>>>The California state senator and his aides took serious note of the >>>hostilities and violence conducted by the Nazi-like, anarchist brown >>>berets. Americans...these goons are incurably evil and have a history >>>of routinely suppressing the First Amendment rights of Americans >>>through acts of violence and threats of death.
>>>Our First Amendment rights of freedom to peacefully assemble and speak >>>are in serious jeopardy, and it is time a stand is taken to preserve >>>these rights.
>> Which is exactly why the Second Amendment exists.
>>>The rampage was orchestrated by Armando Navarro, a known anti-American >>>racist, who holds a comfortable, taxpayer funded, tenured position as >>>a professor (of hate and blood-letting?) at the University of >>>California - Riverside, Ca., and who has devoted his life to promoting >>>the Mexican conquest of the seven southwestern US states. He calls for >>>the conquest to be carried out by force, if necessary. Navarro, and >>>his minions whose combined IQ was that of a dead house plant, all >>>appeared to be under the influence of drugs.
>>>One California Minuteman volunteer, Jim Woods, was physically >>>assaulted by a gang of ten of Navarro's thugs as he sat in his car >>>alone at a border outpost. He was physically restrained in his car >>>seat by the brown berets, who threatened to kill him. They stole his >>>keys from the ignition and left him stranded without food or water for >>>several hours. When Jim Woods identified two of the gang members to >>>the Sheriff's Dept. and asked for an arrest, no action was taken by >>>the Sheriff's deputies. One deputy just responded to Mr. Wood's plea >>>for help with "Oh, you just lost your keys," despite repeated pleas to >>>the contrary from Mr. Woods.
>> Why didn't Mr. Woods unholster his pistol and shoot the bastards?
> Because it is illegal for American citizens to defend American interests and ourselves! Don't you know that would > upset elPresedente?
In Texas such a shooting would be ruled self-defense.
Branson Hunter wrote: > I've been voted 'Fucktard of the Year'!
Great! Your award is at the bottom of the Mariannas Trench, you have to free dive to get it. Do you want a 45 pound barbell or just a big rock to help you sink faster to get it?
-- Ragheads - piles of shit with the toilet paper still stuck to it. Illegal aliens - just as worthless as ragheads.
> Sure would liek to hear more than a one sided report. > I am sure there is a reason no arrests were made.
>> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 2:26 PM Subject: BULLETIN! Reinforcements >> needed in Campo, Ca.
>> Dear Americans,
>> Reinforcements are needed in Campo, Ca. immediately to support Jim >> Chase's California Minutemen, who have deployed for border observation >> and reporting activities from July 16 through at least August 7 (and >> beyond).
>> I visited Jim Chase's group, accompanied with a California state >> senator and his aides, last Saturday. We witnessed the literal seige >> of VFW Post #2080 by about 60 belligerant, death-threatening >> anti-Americans twice during that day. The hate-spewing members of the >> racist, American-hating organization known as the Mexican brown >> berets, stormed the VFW Lodge, damaging signs and other property. They >> were eventually repelled by the late-arriving San Diego County >> Sheriff's Dept. No arrests were made.
>> The California state senator and his aides took serious note of the >> hostilities and violence conducted by the Nazi-like, anarchist brown >> berets. Americans...these goons are incurably evil and have a history >> of routinely suppressing the First Amendment rights of Americans >> through acts of violence and threats of death.
>> Our First Amendment rights of freedom to peacefully assemble and speak >> are in serious jeopardy, and it is time a stand is taken to preserve >> these rights.
>> The rampage was orchestrated by Armando Navarro, a known anti-American >> racist, who holds a comfortable, taxpayer funded, tenured position as >> a professor (of hate and blood-letting?) at the University of >> California - Riverside, Ca., and who has devoted his life to promoting >> the Mexican conquest of the seven southwestern US states. He calls for >> the conquest to be carried out by force, if necessary. Navarro, and >> his minions whose combined IQ was that of a dead house plant, all >> appeared to be under the influence of drugs.
>> One California Minuteman volunteer, Jim Woods, was physically >> assaulted by a gang of ten of Navarro's thugs as he sat in his car >> alone at a border outpost. He was physically restrained in his car >> seat by the brown berets, who threatened to kill him. They stole his >> keys from the ignition and left him stranded without food or water for >> several hours. When Jim Woods identified two of the gang members to >> the Sheriff's Dept. and asked for an arrest, no action was taken by >> the Sheriff's deputies. One deputy just responded to Mr. Wood's plea >> for help with "Oh, you just lost your keys," despite repeated pleas to >> the contrary from Mr. Woods.
>> I am returning to Campo this week. Volunteers from anywhere in the >> United States are welcome to join me as soon as possible. Two >> minuteman groups from Texas have already committed to arrive this >> week. I am also requesting reinforcements from Chris Simcox's >> Minuteman Civil Defense Corps in Tombstone, Az. and from select >> members of another well-known California border watch group that >> operates independently from The Minuteman Project.
>> Navarro's anarchist's attempted to shut down, and trash, the VFW lodge >> because the lodge allowed thirsty and hungry California Minutemen >> volunteers to purchase food and water from its restaurant. Their >> attempts to bring down the U.S. flag were thwarted by Jim Chase's >> California Minutemen.
>> Our goals here are twofold:
>> 1. Protect the rights of ALL Americans to freely and peacefully >> assemble without being physically assaulted, or threatened with >> violence to maim or kill them by the mindless minions of the Univ. of >> California's "Professor of Hate", Armando Navarro.
>> 2. Protect America's war veterans at VFW Lodge 2080, in Campo, Ca. >> from being battered by literal thugs with clubs and to protect the >> property of that lodge from being destroyed.
>> 3. Simultaneously, volunteers are forming to protest at the Univ. of >> Ca. - Riverside, demanding the ouster of Navarro from his department >> at a state funded institution, which Navarro has selfishly turned into >> a department of tyranny.
>> Americans, saddle up! Let's Roll! Contact California Minutemen in >> Campo, Ca. at 760-272-0525...asap. The VFW lodge address is 301 >> Sheridan in Campo, Ca.
>> Be warned that the roving gangs of adversaries engaging the California >> Minutemen WILL physically attack you if they outnumber you. I repeat, >> they WILL physically attack you. Stay in groups, and stay LEGALLY >> armed with pepper spray...tasers...etc. Sidearms are legal in certain >> areas in Campo. Confer with Jim Chase on the issue of sidearms. I am >> remaining unarmed, but will have legally armed body guards with me >> while I am in Campo.
>> Remember, remain passive. However, that does not mean you cannot >> defend yourself against threats to your safety by incoherrent mobs of >> gangsters who are determined to do you physical harm.
>> It truly is a sad day in America when the First Amendment rights are >> preserved only for those who carry the biggest stick. The alternative >> is to remain a cringing little mouse and forever relinquish your >> unalienable rights to peacefully speak or assemble.
>> Good Luck, Americans. May God, patriotism, and country be with you. >> See you in Campo.
>> Jim Gilchrist, Founder - The Minuteman Project - Americans doing the >> jobs Congress won't do.
>> "Cosmic upheaval is not so moving as a little child pondering the death >> of a sparrow in the corner of a barn." -Anouk Aimee, French Actor >> _____
>> "Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny", Aeschylus (525BC-456BC), >> Agamemnon >> _____
>> "I wear no Burka." - Mother Nature
>> ---------- >> To send mail: remove hutch
well.its "politically" incorrect to arrest mexican lawbreakers--otherwise we would not have the scourge we do right now. They can pretty much do what they want when they want............
course someday that will CHANGE drastically.....and I'll be there
> "GeekBoy" <nob...@spamcop.net> wrote in message > news:1121837264.d26ce40fdea2b1a6e42fce5167d6f787@teranews... > well.its "politically" incorrect to arrest mexican lawbreakers--otherwise we > would not have the scourge we do right now. They can pretty much do what they > want when they want............
> course someday that will CHANGE drastically.....and I'll be there
Howzabout we figure out a way to blame Clinton for it, even though we all know that Dubya's in charge of the politically correct/incorrect department these days! Maybe the rubes in the sticks won't notice it.
> > well.its "politically" incorrect to arrest mexican lawbreakers--otherwise we > > would not have the scourge we do right now. They can pretty much do what they > > want when they want............
> > course someday that will CHANGE drastically.....and I'll be there
> Howzabout we figure out a way to blame Clinton for it, even though we all know > that Dubya's in charge of the politically correct/incorrect department these > days! Maybe the rubes in the sticks won't notice it.
> George Z.
Last I heard this is a Naval discussion group. Want to hear the other side? Like this Chase clown is a renegade Minuteman, he pisses them off, and he threatened to fire into Mexico to 'protect his rights' or something. He is a retired postal worker, convey any images?
These border vigilantes are armed. NBC 7/39 quoted Border Watch leader James Chase as saying: " 'I'm allowing people even to bring long rifles, but I want them to keep them in the car-don't be pointing them, don't be waving them.' said Chase. 'They're there if somebody with a rifle from a distance in, say, Mexico starts shooting our people, then we have to suppress that so we can get back further and get away from them.' "
This is significant. James Chase is prepared to fire into Mexico if he perceives his so-called Minutemen are under attack even from a distance. Apparently, fellow border vigilante Andy Ramirez's fears have been vindicated. Ramirez, of Friends of the Border Patrol, has said and insisted that Chase wanted to use snipers in some capacity during a so-called border watch.
Sounds to me like these MinutiaMen wanted a confrontation. And they got it.
Don't see any of these online rednecks that keep whining about an armed revolution heading in to help, do you? The Mexicans would kick those redneck's asses.
Viper wrote: > Sounds to me like these MinutiaMen wanted a confrontation. And they > got it.
> Don't see any of these online rednecks that keep whining about an armed > revolution heading in to help, do you? The Mexicans would kick those > redneck's asses.
What a lot of the late arriving me-white guy types miss is that the Hispanics have been in Southern California since at least 1776, many have ancestry that greatly precedes that date. Playing boy-soldier and threatening people with firearms is a handy way to find food and shelter at the county's expense. If the people who claim they run the United States wanted to stop the immigrants all it would take would a few words, and dollars, with the Mexican authorities. They don't want to lose a source of cheap labor and their source of drugs so the border is porous.
Very prophetic:
The California MinuteMen started their operations in Campo, California, one hour east of San Diego on July 16th. They were confronted, disrupted and chased away by a diverse coalition of organizations from San Diego, Los Angeles, Mexico, Portland and many other cities. The Anti-MinuteMen, No Border Camp continues and actions will continue day and night until the MinuteMen leave Campo. On Sunday night the corporate media reported that the MinuteMen had given up after only one day, but later corrected that statement. On Wednesday, the 2nd Virtual Sit-In against the MinuteMen begins.
The Anti-MinuteMen, No Border camp was set up in the desert scrub of Campo, just feet away from the Border Fence. From this base, anti-racists marched to the MinuteMan camps, only to find they had left to avoid the confrontation. From this spot activists intervened in press events the MinuteMen tried to have at the crest of the Pacific Crest Trail, just feet away from our campsite. People also made their presence felt to every MinuteMan car that entered the area, as our camp was just next to the main access road. Camp attendees posted their stories on San Diego Indymedia from the temporary Desert Media Center which was set up onsite.
On July 16th, the camp was joined by over 150 people from around the state and around the country. This larger group marched to the site of the planned MinuteMan meeting, only to find that it had been moved to an unknown location due to pressure. Later in the day, anti-racists and MinuteMen alike were forced out of their campsites by a brush fire. This gave the anti-racist organizers an opportunity to confront the MinuteMen at their regrouping point, the Veterans of Foreign Wars Building in Campo, for an intense face to face standoff that was only stopped by police intervention after the MinuteMen retreated into the building. Throughout the night disruption techniques were used to sabotage the MinuteMan patrols, which were met with threats that they would shoot. The camp continued until Monday and actions will continue day and night until the MinuteMen leave Campo. On Sunday night the corporate media reported that the MinuteMen had given up after only one day, but later corrected that statement. http://sandiego.indymedia.org/en/2005/07/109981.shtml
>Viper wrote: >> Sounds to me like these MinutiaMen wanted a confrontation. And they >> got it.
>> Don't see any of these online rednecks that keep whining about an armed >> revolution heading in to help, do you? The Mexicans would kick those >> redneck's asses.
>What a lot of the late arriving me-white guy types miss is that the >Hispanics have been in Southern California since at least 1776, many >have ancestry that greatly precedes that date. Playing boy-soldier and >threatening people with firearms is a handy way to find food and >shelter at the county's expense. If the people who claim they run the >United States wanted to stop the immigrants all it would take would a >few words, and dollars, with the Mexican authorities. They don't want >to lose a source of cheap labor and their source of drugs so the border >is porous.
That's really deep, man.
The funny thing here is that you are talking just as you'd expect a "late arriving me-white guy type" to. You know, we've researched and posted on immigration-related things for years now on api, but we never thought uh all that! Thanks for the infopost.
>The California MinuteMen started their operations in Campo, California, >one hour east of San Diego on July 16th. They were confronted, >disrupted and chased away by a diverse coalition of organizations from >San Diego, Los Angeles, Mexico, Portland and many other cities. The >Anti-MinuteMen, No Border Camp continues and actions will continue day >and night until the MinuteMen leave Campo. On Sunday night the >corporate media reported that the MinuteMen had given up after only one >day, but later corrected that statement. On Wednesday, the 2nd Virtual >Sit-In against the MinuteMen begins.
>The Anti-MinuteMen, No Border camp was set up in the desert scrub of >Campo, just feet away from the Border Fence. From this base, >anti-racists marched to the MinuteMan camps, only to find they had left >to avoid the confrontation. From this spot activists intervened in >press events the MinuteMen tried to have at the crest of the Pacific >Crest Trail, just feet away from our campsite. People also made their >presence felt to every MinuteMan car that entered the area, as our camp >was just next to the main access road. Camp attendees posted their >stories on San Diego Indymedia from the temporary Desert Media Center >which was set up onsite.
>On July 16th, the camp was joined by over 150 people from around the >state and around the country. This larger group marched to the site of >the planned MinuteMan meeting, only to find that it had been moved to >an unknown location due to pressure. Later in the day, anti-racists and >MinuteMen alike were forced out of their campsites by a brush fire. >This gave the anti-racist organizers an opportunity to confront the >MinuteMen at their regrouping point, the Veterans of Foreign Wars >Building in Campo, for an intense face to face standoff that was only >stopped by police intervention after the MinuteMen retreated into the >building. Throughout the night disruption techniques were used to >sabotage the MinuteMan patrols, which were met with threats that they >would shoot. The camp continued until Monday and actions will continue >day and night until the MinuteMen leave Campo. On Sunday night the >corporate media reported that the MinuteMen had given up after only one >day, but later corrected that statement. >http://sandiego.indymedia.org/en/2005/07/109981.shtml
Indymedia: The lefty anti-american mouthpiece of SoCal.
You kids are shoveling shit uphill, knock yourselves out. <g>
> >Viper wrote: > >> Sounds to me like these MinutiaMen wanted a confrontation. And they > >> got it.
> >> Don't see any of these online rednecks that keep whining about an armed > >> revolution heading in to help, do you? The Mexicans would kick those > >> redneck's asses.
> >What a lot of the late arriving me-white guy types miss is that the > >Hispanics have been in Southern California since at least 1776, many > >have ancestry that greatly precedes that date. Playing boy-soldier and > >threatening people with firearms is a handy way to find food and > >shelter at the county's expense. If the people who claim they run the > >United States wanted to stop the immigrants all it would take would a > >few words, and dollars, with the Mexican authorities. They don't want > >to lose a source of cheap labor and their source of drugs so the border > >is porous.
> That's really deep, man.
> The funny thing here is that you are talking just as you'd expect a > "late arriving me-white guy type" to. You know, we've researched and > posted on immigration-related things for years now on api, but we > never thought uh all that! Thanks for the infopost.
> >Very prophetic:
> >The California MinuteMen started their operations in Campo, California, > >one hour east of San Diego on July 16th. They were confronted, > >disrupted and chased away by a diverse coalition of organizations from > >San Diego, Los Angeles, Mexico, Portland and many other cities. The > >Anti-MinuteMen, No Border Camp continues and actions will continue day > >and night until the MinuteMen leave Campo. On Sunday night the > >corporate media reported that the MinuteMen had given up after only one > >day, but later corrected that statement. On Wednesday, the 2nd Virtual > >Sit-In against the MinuteMen begins.
> >The Anti-MinuteMen, No Border camp was set up in the desert scrub of > >Campo, just feet away from the Border Fence. From this base, > >anti-racists marched to the MinuteMan camps, only to find they had left > >to avoid the confrontation. From this spot activists intervened in > >press events the MinuteMen tried to have at the crest of the Pacific > >Crest Trail, just feet away from our campsite. People also made their > >presence felt to every MinuteMan car that entered the area, as our camp > >was just next to the main access road. Camp attendees posted their > >stories on San Diego Indymedia from the temporary Desert Media Center > >which was set up onsite.
> >On July 16th, the camp was joined by over 150 people from around the > >state and around the country. This larger group marched to the site of > >the planned MinuteMan meeting, only to find that it had been moved to > >an unknown location due to pressure. Later in the day, anti-racists and > >MinuteMen alike were forced out of their campsites by a brush fire. > >This gave the anti-racist organizers an opportunity to confront the > >MinuteMen at their regrouping point, the Veterans of Foreign Wars > >Building in Campo, for an intense face to face standoff that was only > >stopped by police intervention after the MinuteMen retreated into the > >building. Throughout the night disruption techniques were used to > >sabotage the MinuteMan patrols, which were met with threats that they > >would shoot. The camp continued until Monday and actions will continue > >day and night until the MinuteMen leave Campo. On Sunday night the > >corporate media reported that the MinuteMen had given up after only one > >day, but later corrected that statement. > >http://sandiego.indymedia.org/en/2005/07/109981.shtml
> Indymedia: The lefty anti-american mouthpiece of SoCal.
> You kids are shoveling shit uphill, knock yourselves out. <g>
One more time I will cross post to the collection of groups that the original poster addressed. I am posting from sci-military.naval which is starting to pick up posts from a wide range of fringe groups with no relationship to naval topics. We have one prime clown and he seems to have drawn more in. I'm sorry I was only fortifying your views but they are bit radical for a group more interested in which hull the DD(X) will use or if the Japanese will name their new almost aircraft carrier after some dispicable ship from their past. Apologies, but clean out sci.military.naval from crossposters and you won't get my sort of depth of knowledge. Oh yeah, born and raised in Southern California, moved away when it started filling up with idle postal workers with bad hand eye coordination and loose lips that froze when confronted by numbers greater than three.
> Viper wrote: >> Sounds to me like these MinutiaMen wanted a confrontation. And they >> got it.
>> Don't see any of these online rednecks that keep whining about an armed >> revolution heading in to help, do you? The Mexicans would kick those >> redneck's asses.
> What a lot of the late arriving me-white guy types miss is that the > Hispanics have been in Southern California since at least 1776,
Hispanics? You mean some Spanish soldiers and priests. Okay. So what?
> many > have ancestry that greatly precedes that date.
Don't all people "have ancestry that greatly precedes that date," genius?
> Playing boy-soldier and > threatening people with firearms is a handy way to find food and > shelter at the county's expense.
That's probably true. But defending oneself against assault by 10 thugs probably qualifies as self-defense, don't you think, genius?
> If the people who claim they run the > United States wanted to stop the immigrants all it would take would a > few words, and dollars, with the Mexican authorities. They don't want > to lose a source of cheap labor and their source of drugs so the border > is porous.
Right. Is that big news to you, genius?
> Very prophetic:
Prophetic? It's the story of criminal thuggery by no-borders gangs. Waht exactly do you see in it, genius?
> The California MinuteMen started their operations in Campo, California, > one hour east of San Diego on July 16th. They were confronted, > disrupted and chased away by a diverse coalition of organizations from > San Diego, Los Angeles, Mexico, Portland and many other cities. The > Anti-MinuteMen, No Border Camp continues and actions will continue day > and night until the MinuteMen leave Campo. On Sunday night the > corporate media reported that the MinuteMen had given up after only one > day, but later corrected that statement. On Wednesday, the 2nd Virtual > Sit-In against the MinuteMen begins.
> The Anti-MinuteMen, No Border camp was set up in the desert scrub of > Campo, just feet away from the Border Fence. From this base, > anti-racists marched to the MinuteMan camps, only to find they had left > to avoid the confrontation. From this spot activists intervened in > press events the MinuteMen tried to have at the crest of the Pacific > Crest Trail, just feet away from our campsite. People also made their > presence felt to every MinuteMan car that entered the area, as our camp > was just next to the main access road. Camp attendees posted their > stories on San Diego Indymedia from the temporary Desert Media Center > which was set up onsite.
> On July 16th, the camp was joined by over 150 people from around the > state and around the country. This larger group marched to the site of > the planned MinuteMan meeting, only to find that it had been moved to > an unknown location due to pressure. Later in the day, anti-racists and > MinuteMen alike were forced out of their campsites by a brush fire. > This gave the anti-racist organizers an opportunity to confront the > MinuteMen at their regrouping point, the Veterans of Foreign Wars > Building in Campo, for an intense face to face standoff that was only > stopped by police intervention after the MinuteMen retreated into the > building. Throughout the night disruption techniques were used to > sabotage the MinuteMan patrols, which were met with threats that they > would shoot. The camp continued until Monday and actions will continue > day and night until the MinuteMen leave Campo. On Sunday night the > corporate media reported that the MinuteMen had given up after only one > day, but later corrected that statement. > http://sandiego.indymedia.org/en/2005/07/109981.shtml
>> >Viper wrote: >> >> Sounds to me like these MinutiaMen wanted a confrontation. And they >> >> got it.
>> >> Don't see any of these online rednecks that keep whining about an armed >> >> revolution heading in to help, do you? The Mexicans would kick those >> >> redneck's asses.
>> >What a lot of the late arriving me-white guy types miss is that the >> >Hispanics have been in Southern California since at least 1776, many >> >have ancestry that greatly precedes that date. Playing boy-soldier and >> >threatening people with firearms is a handy way to find food and >> >shelter at the county's expense. If the people who claim they run the >> >United States wanted to stop the immigrants all it would take would a >> >few words, and dollars, with the Mexican authorities. They don't want >> >to lose a source of cheap labor and their source of drugs so the border >> >is porous.
>> That's really deep, man.
>> The funny thing here is that you are talking just as you'd expect a >> "late arriving me-white guy type" to. You know, we've researched and >> posted on immigration-related things for years now on api, but we >> never thought uh all that! Thanks for the infopost.
>> >Very prophetic:
>> >The California MinuteMen started their operations in Campo, California, >> >one hour east of San Diego on July 16th. They were confronted, >> >disrupted and chased away by a diverse coalition of organizations from >> >San Diego, Los Angeles, Mexico, Portland and many other cities. The >> >Anti-MinuteMen, No Border Camp continues and actions will continue day >> >and night until the MinuteMen leave Campo. On Sunday night the >> >corporate media reported that the MinuteMen had given up after only one >> >day, but later corrected that statement. On Wednesday, the 2nd Virtual >> >Sit-In against the MinuteMen begins.
>> >The Anti-MinuteMen, No Border camp was set up in the desert scrub of >> >Campo, just feet away from the Border Fence. From this base, >> >anti-racists marched to the MinuteMan camps, only to find they had left >> >to avoid the confrontation. From this spot activists intervened in >> >press events the MinuteMen tried to have at the crest of the Pacific >> >Crest Trail, just feet away from our campsite. People also made their >> >presence felt to every MinuteMan car that entered the area, as our camp >> >was just next to the main access road. Camp attendees posted their >> >stories on San Diego Indymedia from the temporary Desert Media Center >> >which was set up onsite.
>> >On July 16th, the camp was joined by over 150 people from around the >> >state and around the country. This larger group marched to the site of >> >the planned MinuteMan meeting, only to find that it had been moved to >> >an unknown location due to pressure. Later in the day, anti-racists and >> >MinuteMen alike were forced out of their campsites by a brush fire. >> >This gave the anti-racist organizers an opportunity to confront the >> >MinuteMen at their regrouping point, the Veterans of Foreign Wars >> >Building in Campo, for an intense face to face standoff that was only >> >stopped by police intervention after the MinuteMen retreated into the >> >building. Throughout the night disruption techniques were used to >> >sabotage the MinuteMan patrols, which were met with threats that they >> >would shoot. The camp continued until Monday and actions will continue >> >day and night until the MinuteMen leave Campo. On Sunday night the >> >corporate media reported that the MinuteMen had given up after only one >> >day, but later corrected that statement. >> >http://sandiego.indymedia.org/en/2005/07/109981.shtml
>> Indymedia: The lefty anti-american mouthpiece of SoCal.
>> You kids are shoveling shit uphill, knock yourselves out. <g>
>One more time I will cross post to the collection of groups that the >original poster addressed. I am posting from sci-military.naval which >is starting to pick up posts from a wide range of fringe groups with no >relationship to naval topics. We have one prime clown and he seems to >have drawn more in. I'm sorry I was only fortifying your views but they >are bit radical for a group more interested in which hull the DD(X) >will use or if the Japanese will name their new almost aircraft carrier >after some dispicable ship from their past. Apologies, but clean out >sci.military.naval from crossposters and you won't get my sort of depth >of knowledge. Oh yeah, born and raised in Southern California, moved >away when it started filling up with idle postal workers with bad hand >eye coordination and loose lips that froze when confronted by numbers >greater than three.
My mistake, the "Viper" character you're responding to is one of many sockpuppets this fellow uses, he is an obsessive net-stalker and just badly messed up.
FYI, yes there are a few Minutemen who resemble the boy-soldier you point out, but most are not, they are sincere patriotic civilians for the most part, doing the best they can with self-organization. The Minuteman membership is chock full of LEOs, ex-military, highly-trained competant gentlemen. They can carry weapons in legal carry locales, and they do, but they are absolutely forbidden from unholstering them unless they are experiencing the commission of a felony upon themselves. No Show & Tell allowed, they can't even put their hand on the handle while speaking to someone. All strictly enforced.
Their purpose is to Watch and Report to the BP on Illegals crossing. They cannot halt them, arrest them, if they even speak to them other than "Buenos Noches" they are likely to be asked to leave by the leadership. That's what the Minutemen do. The aim of the project is political, aimed at Washington and the state governments, and they have been extremely effective in that regard.
"The shepherd drives the wolf from the sheep's for which the sheep thanks the shepherd as his liberator, while the wolf denounces him for the same act as the destroyer of liberty. Plainly, the sheep and the wolf are not agreed upon a definition of liberty. " Abraham Lincoln
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