NEWS FLASH!!!
Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.
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Catch Amy Goodman on C-SPAN2�s Book TV this Saturday for Howard Zinn
Tribute.
Tune in to C-SPAN2�s Book TV on Saturday, February 27th at 1pm ET
and midnight for a tribute to historian Howard Zinn with Ralph
Nader, Amy Goodman, Marian Wright Edelman and Bernice Johnson Reagon
and many others.
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http://www.democracynow.org/
;-)
--
Each person has an individual responsibility to determine if his actions are moral, and
no government or army may ever take that responsibility away.
definition:
murder - the unjustifiable and intentional killing of people, NO EXCEPTIONS.
Orval Fairbairn
"Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <dr...@coldine.edu> wrote:
> NEWS FLASH!!!
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Catch Amy Goodman on C-SPAN2�s Book TV this Saturday for Howard Zinn
> Tribute.
>
> Tune in to C-SPAN2�s Book TV on Saturday, February 27th at 1pm ET
> and midnight for a tribute to historian Howard Zinn with Ralph
> Nader, Amy Goodman, Marian Wright Edelman and Bernice Johnson Reagon
> and many others.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> http://www.democracynow.org/
> ;-)
... and just WHAT relevance does this dog & pony show have to military
aviation?
BTW -- is your PhD in underwater basket weaving, sociology or some
other lightweight study?
--
Remove _'s from email address to talk to me.
Eugene Griessel
It's mostly in his own twisted mind. Certainly not awarded by any
reputable educational institution.
Eugene L Griessel
Get the facts first. You can distort them later.
- I post only from Sci.Military.Naval -
Jack Linthicum
> On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:24:50 -0500, Orval Fairbairn
>
>
>
> <o_r_fairbairn@earth_link.net> wrote:
> > "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <d...@coldine.edu> wrote:
>
> >> NEWS FLASH!!!
> >> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Catch Amy Goodman on C-SPAN2¹s Book TV this Saturday for Howard Zinn
> >> Tribute.
>
> >> Tune in to C-SPAN2¹s Book TV on Saturday, February 27th at 1pm ET
> >> and midnight for a tribute to historian Howard Zinn with Ralph
> >> Nader, Amy Goodman, Marian Wright Edelman and Bernice Johnson Reagon
> >> and many others.
> >> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >> http://www.democracynow.org/
> >> ;-)
>
> >... and just WHAT relevance does this dog & pony show have to military
> >aviation?
>
> >BTW -- is your PhD in underwater basket weaving, sociology or some
> >other lightweight study?
>
> It's mostly in his own twisted mind. Certainly not awarded by any
> reputable educational institution.
>
> Eugene L Griessel
>
> Get the facts first. You can distort them later.
>
> - I post only from Sci.Military.Naval -
Glad you added "educational" because I am sure Professor Quin is
either a graduate or a member of the student body at a form of
institution.
Jim Wilkins
wrote:
> "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <d...@coldine.edu> spammed:
> > !@#$%^&
> ... and just WHAT relevance does this dog & pony show have to military
> aviation?
>
> BTW -- is your PhD in underwater basket weaving, sociology or some
> other lightweight study?
We have a Flasher.
redvet
<o_r_fairbairn@earth_link.net> wrote:
>In article <y-ydnW_9A5HeTxjW...@supernews.com>,
> "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <dr...@coldine.edu> wrote:
>
>> NEWS FLASH!!!
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>> Catch Amy Goodman on C-SPAN2�s Book TV this Saturday for Howard Zinn
>> Tribute.
>>
>> Tune in to C-SPAN2�s Book TV on Saturday, February 27th at 1pm ET
>> and midnight for a tribute to historian Howard Zinn with Ralph
>> Nader, Amy Goodman, Marian Wright Edelman and Bernice Johnson Reagon
>> and many others.
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> http://www.democracynow.org/
>> ;-)
>
>... and just WHAT relevance does this dog & pony show have to military
>aviation?
You're clearly are unfamilar with this WWII Bombardier and his
"People's History" books.
redvet - Facilitator - Vietnam Veterans Against the
War/Anti-Imperialist
http://host274.hostmonster.com/~vvawaior/
Ian B MacLure
news:7e4eo51u579m511dk...@4ax.com:
> On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:24:50 -0500, Orval Fairbairn
> <o_r_fairbairn@earth_link.net> wrote:
>
>>In article <y-ydnW_9A5HeTxjW...@supernews.com>,
>> "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <dr...@coldine.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> NEWS FLASH!!!
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Catch Amy Goodman on C-SPAN2�s Book TV this Saturday for Howard Zinn
>>> Tribute.
>>>
>>> Tune in to C-SPAN2�s Book TV on Saturday, February 27th at 1pm ET
>>> and midnight for a tribute to historian Howard Zinn with Ralph
>>> Nader, Amy Goodman, Marian Wright Edelman and Bernice Johnson Reagon
>>> and many others.
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> http://www.democracynow.org/
>>> ;-)
>>
>>... and just WHAT relevance does this dog & pony show have to military
>>aviation?
>
> You're clearly are unfamilar with this WWII Bombardier and his
> "People's History" books.
Zinn was ( he's daid since about a month ago IIRC ) a jackass.
Same goes for the others listed above only present tense.
IBM
Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.
> In article <y-ydnW_9A5HeTxjW...@supernews.com>,
> "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <dr...@coldine.edu> wrote:
>
>
>>NEWS FLASH!!!
>>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>>Catch Amy Goodman on C-SPAN2�s Book TV this Saturday for Howard Zinn
>>Tribute.
>>
>>Tune in to C-SPAN2�s Book TV on Saturday, February 27th at 1pm ET
>>and midnight for a tribute to historian Howard Zinn with Ralph
>>Nader, Amy Goodman, Marian Wright Edelman and Bernice Johnson Reagon
>>and many others.
>>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> http://www.democracynow.org/
>> ;-)
>
>
> ... and just WHAT relevance does this dog & pony show have to military
> aviation?
Howard Zinn crewed a bomber.
Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.
> ...
> The People Speak, scheduled for release on DVD in February 2010, is a
> documentary movie inspired by the lives of ordinary people who fought
> back against oppressive conditions over the course of the history of
> the United States. The film includes performances by Zinn, Matt Damon,
> Morgan Freeman, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Eddie Vedder, Viggo
> Mortensen, Josh Brolin, Danny Glover, Marisa Tomei, Don Cheadle, and
> Sandra Oh.
Thank you...excellent information. I will buy the DVD.
Nigel Brooks
"Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <dr...@coldine.edu> wrote in message
news:0oOdnaGDy_3F1BrW...@supernews.com...
> redvet wrote:
>> ...
>> The People Speak, scheduled for release on DVD in February 2010, is a
>> documentary movie inspired by the lives of ordinary people who fought
>> back against oppressive conditions over the course of the history of
>> the United States. The film includes performances by Zinn, Matt Damon,
>> Morgan Freeman, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Eddie Vedder, Viggo
>> Mortensen, Josh Brolin, Danny Glover, Marisa Tomei, Don Cheadle, and
>> Sandra Oh.
>
> Thank you...excellent information. I will buy the DVD.
> ;-)
>
No you won't.
I'd be willing to bet that you'd look for a torrent and get that.
Ordie55
wrote:
> Orval Fairbairn wrote:
> > In article <y-ydnW_9A5HeTxjWnZ2dnUVZ_o6dn...@supernews.com>,
> > "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <d...@coldine.edu> wrote:
>
> >>NEWS FLASH!!!
> >>-----------------------------------------------------------------
> >>Catch Amy Goodman on C-SPAN2 s Book TV this Saturday for Howard Zinn
> >>Tribute.
>
> >>Tune in to C-SPAN2 s Book TV on Saturday, February 27th at 1pm ET
> >>and midnight for a tribute to historian Howard Zinn with Ralph
> >>Nader, Amy Goodman, Marian Wright Edelman and Bernice Johnson Reagon
> >>and many others.
> >>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >> http://www.democracynow.org/
> >> ;-)
>
> > ... and just WHAT relevance does this dog & pony show have to military
> > aviation?
>
> Howard Zinn crewed a bomber.
> ;-)
>
> --
> Each person has an individual responsibility to determine if his actions are moral, and
> no government or army may ever take that responsibility away.
>
> definition:
> murder - the unjustifiable and intentional killing of people, NO EXCEPTIONS.
From Pvt Quin:
"Howard Zinn crewed a bomber.
;-) "
Is this not yet another of Pvt Quins Trolling Standards?
After all according to him all Vets who have served in War are immoral
war criminals!
He hails him a hero for his Anti American positions while his own sign
off in the same post makes his hero a murderer!
How ironic, two faced & Trollish!
Mac
> definition:
> � murder - the unjustifiable and intentional killing of people, NO EXCEPTIONS.
===================
Hmmm?
Guess al-Queda falls into that category.
And those who strap on explosives and seek out
victims.
And those who take retarded persons, strap on a
vest of explosives, and start them walking toward
any gathering of people.
And those who target and hit embassies, killing as
many people as possible.
And, of course, those who use WMD to target and kill people int heir
own country... and Saddam Hussein's institutions which grabbed
people off the street and took to their little torture chambers; or
the females they grabbed, raped, and then killed.
I'm sure that you meant such.
-Mac, the Medic
Eugene Griessel
wrote:
What our phony phd seems to forget is that murder is almost
universally defined as "unlawful premeditated killing of a human being
by another". So his little personal definition is, like almost
everything else about him, fake.
Eugene L Griessel
People who use PowerPoint are dull, boring and unimaginative.
Ordie55
weekends?
Serving his Sentence on the weekends?
Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.
Son, I am truly sorry this causes you so much confusion and anxiety. Usenet
allows all levels of intelligence with the dumb clashing with the dumber. ;-)
If you care to discuss it, and you can be civil for a few posts, I'd be happy to.
As a start, I don't think it is only the military who are murderers, I think
we as a nation are murdering...i.e. IMO *all* Americans are responsible for the
murder we have done in Iraq. OTOH, the Iraqis and Afghans who fight and kill to
defend their country from a foreign invading army are not murdering. Your morality
is different...fine.
You should read Zinn's bio to see what he says about his bombing.
Or visit this website to see what Iraq vets themselves say about what they did.
http://ivaw.org/
Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.
ha ha ha, nice fetch, son.
No, I've never used torrent, nor do I "pirate" software. I don't think "pirating" is
stealing or otherwise immoral, it's just too much trouble, and besides I have the
money to just buy whatever I want. Whatever "The People Speak" costs...I know it's
money well spent.
Now fetch again...good doggie.
znuybv
wrote:
> NEWS FLASH!!!
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Catch Amy Goodman on C-SPAN2 s Book TV this Saturday for Howard Zinn
> Tribute.
>
> Tune in to C-SPAN2 s Book TV on Saturday, February 27th at 1pm ET
> and midnight for a tribute to historian Howard Zinn with Ralph
> Nader, Amy Goodman, Marian Wright Edelman and Bernice Johnson Reagon
> and many others.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> http://www.democracynow.org/
> ;-)
>
> --
> Each person has an individual responsibility to determine if his actions are moral, and
> no government or army may ever take that responsibility away.
>
> definition:
> murder - the unjustifiable and intentional killing of people, NO EXCEPTIONS.
Just remember Dr. Quin, that a couple of nukes turned the murdering
Japanese fascists into peace loving capitalists.
Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.
Sometimes killing is necessary (justifiable). What makes you think I've said differently?
znuybv
I beg your pardon. I jumped to a conclusion.
Ray O'Hara
"znuybv" <tjwi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:0ee235c3-6389-4f4b...@s36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
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a couple of nukes on top ofa few million casualties from conventional means
Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.
No problem.
Matt Wiser
> redvet <red...@lava.net> wrote innews:7e4eo51u579m511dk...@4ax.com:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:24:50 -0500, Orval Fairbairn
> > <o_r_fairbairn@earth_link.net> wrote:
>
> >> "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <d...@coldine.edu> wrote:
>
> >>> NEWS FLASH!!!
> >>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> Catch Amy Goodman on C-SPAN2¹s Book TV this Saturday for Howard Zinn
> >>> Tribute.
>
> >>> Tune in to C-SPAN2¹s Book TV on Saturday, February 27th at 1pm ET
> >>> and midnight for a tribute to historian Howard Zinn with Ralph
> >>> Nader, Amy Goodman, Marian Wright Edelman and Bernice Johnson Reagon
> >>> and many others.
> >>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >>> http://www.democracynow.org/
> >>> ;-)
>
> >>... and just WHAT relevance does this dog & pony show have to military
> >>aviation?
>
> > You're clearly are unfamilar with this WWII Bombardier and his
> > "People's History" books.
>
> Zinn was ( he's daid since about a month ago IIRC ) a jackass.
> Same goes for the others listed above only present tense.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Concur. Whenever someone uses the term "People's" in a title,it's a
dead giveaway that the writer is a Marxist or a revisionist (and yes,
I do have a BA and MA in History-so historigraphy was a course
requirement in Grad School). Having no use for either category of
writer, I happily ignored the late and unlamented Mr. Zinn.
Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.
Get the 2010 edition from Amazon:
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A People's History of the United States (768 pages)
http://www.amazon.ca/Peoples-History-United-States/dp/0061965588/
Addressing his trademark reversals of perspective, Zinn--a teacher, historian,
and social activist for more than 20 years--explains, "My point is not that we
must, in telling history, accuse, judge, condemn Columbus in absentia. It is too
late for that; it would be a useless scholarly exercise in morality. But the easy
acceptance of atrocities as a deplorable but necessary price to pay for progress
(Hiroshima and Vietnam, to save Western civilization; Kronstadt and Hungary, to
save socialism; nuclear proliferation, to save us all)--that is still with us.
One reason these atrocities are still with us is that we have learned to bury
them in a mass of other facts, as radioactive wastes are buried in containers in
the earth."
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We Americans (like all people) must have our Fairy Tale history
Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.
I believe I heard Dr. Zinn say he was a socialist since he put people before profits.
Do you put profits before people?
znuybv
> "znuybv" <tjwil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
580,000 civilian casualties and 2,100,000 military casualties
according to Wikipedia.
Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.
Wikipedia is often wrong on the politically charged statistics. Grain of salt.
znuybv
znuybv
Would you believe the figures if they came from the Japanese
government?
Matt Wiser
> On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:59:06 -0800, Mac <NoSpamTo...@NoSpamToday.net>
>
> - Show quoted text -
I wonder if he considers the millions of deaths at the hands of
"socialist" leaders like Stalin, Mao, Kim il-Sung, Pol Pot, and so on
under that definition. It's doubtful at best.
Matt Wiser
>
> - Show quoted text -
( I hate feeding trolls, but in this case, I'll make an exception)
Considering what "socialism" wreaked on the people it ruled (famine in
the USSR, China, North Korea, bloody purges under Stalin and Mao,
genocide under Pol Pot, and so on) all it produced other than idealism
was mountains of corpses. I've always been a staunch anti-communist,
and despite its faults, captialism, with the political, economic, and
personal freedoms it has, is a lot better than any so-called "worker's
paradise." I have no use for revisionists or Marxists of any sort,
period. Too bad for you the Party's been over since the 1989-91 time
frame.
Ian B MacLure
news:--OdnbKWJbygShPW...@supernews.com:
[snip]
> I believe I heard Dr. Zinn say he was a socialist since he put people
> before profits.
Without profits, people don't have jobs. Unless of course
they work for the gummint.
> Do you put profits before people?
Always. There, satisfied?
IBM
ha4h...@kent.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me
Me too. Because to be a good socialist in the sense of caring for people
means being a successful free-market entrepreneur (and of course capitalist).
ha4h...@kent.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me
Ordie55
> "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <d...@coldine.edu> wrote innews:--OdnbKWJbygShPW...@supernews.com:
>
> [snip]
>
> > I believe I heard Dr. Zinn say he was a socialist since he put people
> > before profits.
>
> Without profits, people don't have jobs. Unless of course
> they work for the gummint.
>
> > Do you put profits before people?
>
> Always. There, satisfied?
>
> IBM
The funny thing is that the ignorant Troll Pvt. Quin here fails to
even understand is that if he lived among the communist he holds in
such high esteem, he would have no liberty to express himself as he
does here. Unless prisoners in remote prisons in those countries now
have internet access? But maybe he will tell us how Communist
Expression of Freedom of Speech is not suppressed and that is just our
imaginations!
Matt Wiser
He probably will, claiming that such stories of famine, purges,
executions, etc. are "highly exaggerated and are only capitalist
propaganda" or words to that effect.
Matt Wiser
> "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <d...@coldine.edu> wrote innews:--OdnbKWJbygShPW...@supernews.com:
>
> [snip]
>
> > I believe I heard Dr. Zinn say he was a socialist since he put people
> > before profits.
>
> Without profits, people don't have jobs. Unless of course
> they work for the gummint.
>
> > Do you put profits before people?
>
> Always. There, satisfied?
>
> IBM
Glad to be a fellow capitalist, Ian.
Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.
I don't know, but Wikipedia is often unreliable, especially anything with a political slant.
Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.
Son, the question was about socialist, not communism or Marxism or "worker's paradise".
Are you so old and fucked up that you really can't understand the differences?
;-)
Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.
> "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <dr...@coldine.edu> wrote in
> news:--OdnbKWJbygShPW...@supernews.com:
>
> [snip]
>
>
>>I believe I heard Dr. Zinn say he was a socialist since he put people
>>before profits.
>
>
> Without profits, people don't have jobs. Unless of course
> they work for the gummint.
Son, no one has ever advocated eliminating profits.
No one. Ever.
;-)
>>Do you put profits before people?
>
>
> Always. There, satisfied?
Then you are against all the laws in the U.S. that put people before profits.
Take just one...are you opposed to child labor laws (putting children before profits)?
Son, you post like a moron.
;-)
>
> IBM
Matt Wiser
To a lot of people, socialism=Communist/Marxist/"worker's paradise".
And I'm one of 'em. At least I'm a history major, and know what
"socialism" has wrought in the former USSR, Eastern Europe, and what
that pudgy little pervert Mao did, along with what the Kims did (and
still do) in NK. The Party's been over since 1989-91, so get over it.
Socialism has two chances in the U.S.: slim and none. Get used to
that.
Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.
There you have it...you're a moron.
At least I'm a history major, and know what
> "socialism" has wrought in the former USSR, Eastern Europe, and what
> that pudgy little pervert Mao did, along with what the Kims did (and
> still do) in NK. The Party's been over since 1989-91, so get over it.
> Socialism has two chances in the U.S.: slim and none. Get used to
> that.
Son, the U.S. *is* socialist. Get over *that*.
;-)
btw, son, you have no clue what any ism has wrought, you just count whatever
malady of whatever enemy ism you don't like, but you ignore maladies
caused by your own ism. famine, for example...since the commies have a
large number dead from famine you count em, but you don't count all the
capitalist deaths due to malnutrition...worldwide in *every* capitalist
affected society.
And son, since communism arose as a *response* to the excesses and evils of
capitalism, then you must attribute all of those commie deaths to capitalism.
Your grand little bubble, where everything is wonderful, is not the only
result of capitalism.