Daylight Savings Time
D. Spencer Hines
Terminology
In the normative form, daylight saving time uses the present participle
saving as an adjective, as in labor saving device; the first two words are
sometimes hyphenated, as in daylight-saving time.
Daylight savings time, daylight savings, and daylight time are common
variants, the savings by analogy to savings account. [94] ******
Willett's original proposal used the term daylight saving, but by 1911 the
term summer time replaced daylight saving time in draft legislation in
Britain.
94. ^ Daylight saving time and its variants:
Richard A. Meade (1978). "Language change in this century". English Journal
67 (9): 27-30. doi:10.2307/815124.
"daylight-saving time", in Joseph P. Pickett et al.: The American Heritage
Dictionary of the English Language, 4th ed. (2000), Boston: Houghton
Mifflin. ISBN 0-395-82517-2. Retrieved on 2007-05-26. "variant forms: or
daylight-savings time"
"daylight saving time". Merriam-Webster's Online Dictionary. Retrieved on
2007-03-08. "called also daylight saving, daylight savings, daylight savings
time, daylight time"
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'Nuff Said.
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James Hogg
<pan...@excelsior.com> got fumigated with her own petard by
writing:
Thank you for these examples, all of which show that "daylight
saving time" is the term preferred by the cognoscenti, while
"daylight savings time" is the also-ran form that sometimes gets
into print when the great unwashed escape the control of a good
editor.
By the way, have you learned the difference between "lay" and
"lie" yet?
James
D. Spencer Hines
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Daylight Savings Time...
Indeed.
Pogues On The Run.
How Sweet It Is!
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James Hogg
<pan...@excelsior.com> wrote:
>All sorts of things are saved by Daylight Savings Time -- not just Daylight.
>
>Energy
>Lives otherwise lost in traffic accidents
>Retail sales
>Sporting events
>Outdoor Family Life - adults and children interacting
>Health
>Tourism
>Travel
>
>Daylight Savings Time...
Sounds like a "labour savings device" or a "man eatings tiger".
>Pogues On The Run.
Only in your little Walter Mitty world.
The official U.S. term, as used and recommended by the U.S. Naval
Observatory, by the U.S. Department of Energy and in U.S.
legislation, is:
Daylight-Saving Time.
See
http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/zones4.html
and countless other official sites.
If we are forced to choose between the U.S. Naval Observatory and
some "anything goes" hick who calls himself Julia and subscribes
to alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.interracial, I think most of us
will find the choice easy.
James
D. Spencer Hines
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Daylight SAVINGS Time...
Is a perfectly acceptable expression...
And a Great Idea...
Think SAVINGS account...
Or:
To BEAT or SCARE the living DAYLIGHTS out of someone. <g>
SUMMER TIME and SUMMER-TIME are also quite acceptable.
Indeed.
Merriam-Webster has:
Daylight Saving Time
Daylight Saving
Daylight Savings
Daylight Savings Time
Daylight Time
...As all quite acceptable.
Pogues On The Run.
How Sweet It Is!
Exitus Acta Probat.
James Hogg
<pan...@excelsior.com> wrote:
>Daylight SAVINGS Time...
>
>Is a perfectly acceptable expression...
Just as acceptable as using "the" in front of a ship name, as
Theodore Roosevelt did?
>And a Great Idea...
>
>Think SAVINGS account...
No, wrong analogy, although that is of course the source of your
confusion. Instead think "labour-saving device", a device that
saves labour.
Or think "life-saving treatment". Not even you would call that
"life savings treatment".
Or think "face-saving dodge", something with which you are
thoroughly familiar.
Or just think, for once.
And if you can't do that, just follow the example of your
betters. Although you might not have the discrimination to know
whose usage is better to follow, I assure you that you can trust
the U.S. Naval Observatory on this point.
James
Peter Jason
could stay awake longer to flash their credit
cards, and sit in pubs & starbucks thereby
wasting all the time they save!
Abstemious and frugal people know the value
of "early to bed, early to rise etc".
In fact in this consumer-run country the
slave-to-the-dollar state governments
actually STRETCH the hours of daylight
"saving" time to accommodate Grand Prix
racing, and Olympic events; and recently,
this year they had the temerity to extend
this artifice by one week to coincide with
some deep-North state (whose name I've
forgotten), and this caused me to awake one
whole hour late and all my clocks and timers
gave me hell for the remaining six days!
It's all out of control here, what with the
neo-communists, whale-kooks, tree-geeks and
control freaks!
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John Briggs
Would this be a good time to bring up the spelling, meaning and punctuation
of "Love's Labours Lost"?
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CJ Adams
>
>
>
>
> Would this be a good time to bring up the spelling, meaning and
> punctuation of "Love's Labours Lost"?
Nah. All much ado about nothing.
Cheers
CJ Adams
frank
Or The Taming of the Shrew. Also known as marriage after you say 'I
do'......
Renia
> All sorts of things are saved by Daylight Savings Time -- not just Daylight.
>
> Energy
> Lives otherwise lost in traffic accidents
> Retail sales
> Sporting events
> Outdoor Family Life - adults and children interacting
> Health
> Tourism
> Travel
>
> Daylight SAVINGS Time...
>
> Is a perfectly acceptable expression...
In the US, maybe. It's called Daylight Saving Time in the UK.
Jack Linthicum
We got a lot of children hit by cars during the experiment with double
daylight savings, walking to the school bus stop in the dark or near
dark is the price you pay for being able to mow your lawn after you
get home at night.
Renia
Quite. I remember a 3-year experminent with it in the 60s and I ended up
playing hockey in the dark first lesson in the morning.
Justin Case
"Renia" <re...@DELETEotenet.gr> wrote in message
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As it is here in the U.S..
Richard Casady
<jackli...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>We got a lot of children hit by cars during the experiment with double
>daylight savings, walking to the school bus stop in the dark
I understand. Lots of drivers cruise on the sidewalk hoping to get the
kids they can't see in the dark. What ever happened to stay out of the
road, and when you cross, "stop, look. and listen."
Casady
Vincent
We have lots and lots of housing here in Montgomery county MD with no
sidewalks.
We also have to fight the speeding commuters who cut through neighborhoods
Vince
Richard Casady
>Richard Casady wrote:
>> On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:17:30 -0700 (PDT), Jack Linthicum
>> <jackli...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>> We got a lot of children hit by cars during the experiment with double
>>> daylight savings, walking to the school bus stop in the dark
>>
>> I understand. Lots of drivers cruise on the sidewalk hoping to get the
>> kids they can't see in the dark. What ever happened to stay out of the
>> road, and when you cross, "stop, look. and listen."
>>
>> Casady
>
>We have lots and lots of housing here in Montgomery county MD with no
>sidewalks.
I guess the land sharks managed to get themselves a favorable to them
building code.
>
>We also have to fight the speeding commuters who cut through neighborhoods
You need a vigilante with some of those stop sticks that the cops
ambush fleeing cars with. They are studded with hollow quills that
deflate tires.
Maybe the school could sell reflector vests along with the pencils. Or
issue them like books.
Casady
Jack Linthicum
wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:17:30 -0700 (PDT), Jack Linthicum
>
> >We got a lot of children hit by cars during the experiment with double
> >daylight savings, walking to the school bus stop in the dark
>
> I understand. Lots of drivers cruise on the sidewalk hoping to get the
> kids they can't see in the dark. What ever happened to stay out of the
> road, and when you cross, "stop, look. and listen."
>
> Casady
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frank
wrote:
I think they quit teaching that up here. Along with stopping at the
railroad tracks when the gates are down. Or looking both ways when
crossing RR tracks. They seem to think the horn on the train means
faster, you can make it before I get there....
!Jones
Hines" <pan...@excelsior.com> wrote:
>In the normative form, daylight saving time uses the present participle
>saving as an adjective, as in labor saving device; the first two words are
>sometimes hyphenated, as in daylight-saving time.
Fuck!
I see another *long* argument over whether a ship's name may have an
article preceeding it...
It's only made longer by the fact that Spencer is the only one
arguing.
Jones