Re: Prime Minister Winston Churchill -- Just After Pearl Harbor
D. Spencer Hines
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>> Hilarious!
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>> The pogues who were ranting so stupidly before, sans either historical
>> facts or evidence for their anserine assertions and pogueish emotions,
>> have been thoroughly dispatched, kicked in the arse and sent packing.
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>> So, they have run for the tall grass with their tails between their legs
>> and are now hiding there -- humbly licking their wounds, weeping,
>> muttering to each other incoherently, eating worms and pondering
>> over their abject, crushing defeat.
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>> Capital!
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>> Life Is Good!
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>> How Sweet It Is!
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> And... inflicted unequivocally by a citizen of the nation that saved
> their asses, of all people.
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> German is not too bad to have as a mother tongue, I don't know why they
> are so afraid.
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True...
The EDUCATED, Historically-Aware Brits AGREE with ME, of course or are
silent, OR toss stinking Red Herrings about the Napoleonic Wars and the Duke
of Wellington into the discussion.
I have extensively quoted and cited the verbatim words of Winston Churchill,
the British Prime Minister at the time, HIMSELF, writing with plenty of time
to collect his thoughts and papers, in the 1950's and publish in 1961 [The
Gathering Storm] ---- as well as a British Diplomat, Peter Broom, in 2006
and even the Left-Wing, often Anti-American _Guardian_ in 2006.
The little rampant Brit pogues and poguettes have quoted and cited ZIP POINT
ZERO.
All they can do is make increasingly hysterical Anserine Assertions. Their
American, Lickspittle Allies have abandoned them and fled to the tall grass
and the presumed safety of their bunkers.
The Rampant-Pogue, uneducated Brits are so stupid and uneducated -- True
Untermenschen -- that they do not realize the Critical Importance of Lend
Lease -- WELL before the Pearl Harbor Attack.
Without Lend Lease the Brits would not have been able to survive during
1941-1945.
Smart Brits Admit That....
As I Have Proven.
The General Election of 1935 was the Brits last chance to set things aright,
begin a concerted Preparedness Campaign to counter Hitler, build up their
Armed Forces and work themselves out of the hole they had crawled into --
but they blew it -- neither Baldwin nor Lansbury was a Good Choice.
[N.B. Angela Lansbury, the first-rate British actress [_The Manchurian
Candidate_ [original] and _Murder, She Wrote_ [TV] among many other
triumphs -- as well as Elizabeth Taylor's older sister in _National Velvet_
is the GRANDDAUGHTER of George Lansbury, the Leader of the Labour Party in
1935.]
George was a pacifist.
"The East Fulham by-election in June 1933 was dominated by the issue of
rearmament against Nazi Germany. Lansbury as Labour Leader sent a message
to the constituency:
"I would close every recruiting station, disband the Army and disarm the
Air Force. I would abolish the whole dreadful equipment of war and say to
the world "do your worst"."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Lansbury
And the World -- in the person of Adolf Hitler and his Nazis -- did
precisely that -- to Britain's eternal rue.
Too Late Smart.
Stanley Baldwin The Appeaser was no better choice than George Lansbury The
Pacifist in 1935.
The General Election of 1935 -- Producing Anserine Results -- Stupid
Decisions by the British People.
They should read John F. Kennedy's _Why England Slept_, today, for a starter
source -- to be followed up by reading Churchill's _WHILE ENGLAND SLEPT: A
Survey of World Affairs 1932 - 1938_ which many of them have probably never
read either.
History has a Long Reach and is Unforgiving.
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They would probably have been allowed to continue speaking English at
home -- the Old Folks would find it hard to give up and the German
Übermenschen, being far more witting and intelligent than the Brits, would
understand that and make allowances
Many Germans, of course, see English as a corrupted, lower-class,
Untermenschen version of German -- even lower on the totem pole than Dutch.
German would be required in the workplace no doubt and taught in the
schools, while English would be dropped.
Anyone who wanted to get ahead with their German Masters would want to take
special German lessons after school or work.
British school children would read Goethe rather than Shakespeare. Bach,
Mozart, Beethoven and Wagner would be heard everywhere.
Nietzsche would be an essential part of the New Curriculum in all grades --
and Smith, Locke, Hume and Freud would be consigned to the rubbish bin.
The Spanish, Portuguese and Italians would snicker at the poor-white-trash
British and vacation there in the summers -- "because its cheap, the women
are quite pliable and willing, but often have bad teeth so keep their mouths
either closed or full of something -- and the waiters know their place."
British food would change markedly -- for the better.
<G>
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Exitus Acta Probat
Veni, Vidi, Calcitravi Asinum
Britannicus Traductus Sum
Jack G.
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>>This is a great post and I give it 5 stars. Thank you for bringing back some important history that seems to have been over looked by the left.
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D. Spencer Hines
DSH
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Don't worry Boris will change all of that...
Something almost Chuchillian about him already...
Bryn
D. Spencer Hines
Something almost Chuchillian [sic] about him already...
Bryn
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He's not even PM yet.
Churchillian -- how so?
DSH
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William Black
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> Churchillian -- how so?
Physically big, popular, no idea about economics, journalistic
background, US connections...
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William Black
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.
Singanas@Texasgulfcoast
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> William Black
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> I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
> Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
> I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
> All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
> Time for tea.
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Commander,
All of this is water under the bridge. And Kennedy did not write
WHILE ENGLAND SLEPT. He paid the ghostwriter $500 for the
manuscript at a time when $500 was a lot of money.
Cheers, David H
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Peter Jason
"Singanas@Texasgulfcoast"
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Churchill had some literary hack typing out
his speeches too. The fat old drunk took a
lot of propping up.
Robert Sveinson
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>> Commander,
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>> All of this is water under the bridge. And Kennedy did not write
>> WHILE ENGLAND SLEPT. He paid the ghostwriter $500 for the
>> manuscript at a time when $500 was a lot of money.
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>> Cheers, David H
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> Churchill had some literary hack typing out his speeches too. The fat old
> drunk took a lot of propping up.
Well if Churchill had a "lierary hack" write his
speeches, he was one articulate "literary hack"
unlike the illiterate "ghost writer" for Herr Kennedy.
Was it that Churchill's "hack writer" used
words that contained TOO many syllables?
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D. Spencer Hines
That's a sturdy myth in some misinformed, loony right-wing circles.
JFK wrote his own Senior Thesis at Harvard. He was seriously considering
becoming an academic at the time.
As a rather frail and sickly youth that made perfect sense.
After Jack's brother Joe's death in World War II, Joe Kennedy put his second
son on a political track.
However, Joe Kennedy was well-connected enough to get _While England Slept_
PUBLISHED, since he knew Henry Luce and Luce knew him.
It's actually a quite interesting book. I've read it.
Others here should read it too.
Now JFK's book _Profiles In Courage_ is another story. Ted Sorensen did
write large portions of that and JFK edited -- just as he later edited
Sorensen's drafts of speeches prepared for him as POTUS.
That one is well worth reading too and was very helpful to JFK in the 1960
Campaign.
Cheers,
Signalmen Keep Them Flying...
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
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Peter Jason
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How galling it is to have sayings and
witticisms ascribed to this and that person,
when in fact professional speechwriters and
joke manufacturers are doing all the work.
Many famous comedians have pro hacks grinding
out their jokes which are filed away for
appropriate occasions. The recent (or
ongoing?) strike of scriptwriters in
Hollywood has shown this up to the general
public.
But, it is difficult to imaging how the
braying and grunting of the incumbent
American President could ever be improved
upon by any scriptwriter mindful of his
reputation. Here is a President who is all
his own work.
President Kennedy sang his speeches to the
script supplied by a plethora of Hollywood
hacks. Who else could have contrived more
inflated and banal text to fit (exactly) the
time slot allocated? Does anyone speak in
that way? Martin Luther King was another
one. And the one who wrote the moon-landing
speech in 1969 should be shot!
Marcus Aurelius
Winston Churchill would "give them trouble."
The whole world owes Winston Churchill a great deal of thanks for his
heroic stand against the NAZIS.
He, personally, believed in chivalry in war. He believed one should be
generous to a defeated enemy. One of the main reasons he disliked the
NAZIs so much was their stated rejection of all noble and chivalrous
concepts
I just finished reading a biography of Winston Churchill called "The
Last Lion." It is an extremely entertaining and informative book.
My father, First Lieutenant Thomas Mitchell Shaw, an attorney at law,
served as an Infantry officer during W.W. II in North Africa and
Italy.
He was seriously wounded at Casino, Italy but survived the war. As I
remember it, one of his other brothers also served in the U.S. Army
Infantry as an officer and participated in the D-Day invasion of
Europe. His other brother, as I remember, it served as a U.S. Army Air
Force pilot during W.W. II.
I want to give my thanks to my father, his two brothers, and the
veterans of all of the Allied Forces during WW II for the galland,
heroic, and patriotic service.