Britain Declares War On Food Waste
D. Spencer Hines
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor
Britain declares war on food waste
By Andrew Grice in Hokkaido, Japan
Monday, 7 July 2008
The Government is to launch a campaign to stamp out Britain's waste food
mountains as part of a global effort to curb spiralling food prices.
Supermarkets will be urged to drop "three for two" deals on food that
encourage shoppers into bulk-buying more than they need, often leading to
the surpluses being thrown away. The scandal of the vast mountains of food
that are thrown away in Britain while other parts of the world starve is
revealed in a Cabinet Office report today. It calls for a reduction in food
waste: up to 40 per cent of groceries can be lost before they are consumed
due to poor processing, storage and transport.
The report says UK households could save an average of £420 per year by not
throwing away 4.1 million tonnes of food that could have been eaten.
Gordon Brown said he would make action to tackle the soaring cost of food a
priority at the G8 summit starting today in Japan. "If we are to get food
prices down, we must do more to deal with unnecessary demand, such as by all
of us doing more to cut our food waste which is costing the average
household in Britain around £8 per week," he told journalists on board the
plane to the summit.
Mr Brown's determination to act follows The Independent's campaign to reduce
waste through excessive packaging of food in supermarkets. The Government is
to launch a major offensive to encourage supermarkets, restaurants, schools
and all public sector bodies as well as householders to try to cut down
dramatically on the amount of food they throw away.
The key findings of the 10-month review are that:
*Global food prices have risen significantly in recent years due to a
combination of poor harvests in some exporting countries; higher costs for
energy, fertiliser and transport; the diversion of some commodities to
biofuel; and a long-term rise in demand for grain to feed a growing global
population;
*The average UK household now devotes about 9 per cent of its expenditure to
food, down from 16 per cent in 1984. But the poorest 10 per cent of
households in the UK saw 15 per cent of their expenditure go on food in
2005-06; the richest 10 per cent just 7 per cent. And low-income households
also spend proportionately more on staples such as milk, eggs and bread -
products that have seen some of the biggest price rises in recent months;
*The increase in global food prices has hit developing countries the
hardest, with food accounting for 50 to 80 per cent of household expenditure
of the poorest. Price rises have contributed to social unrest in a number of
countries.
At his first G8 summit as Prime Minister, Mr Brown will argue that the
world's richest nations must do more to tackle the food price crisis. He
will urge them to halt the decline in funding for agricultural projects in
Africa, so the continent can boost farm production by 6 per cent a year.
He will call for a rethink over the use of biofuels so they are used more
selectively. A separate study to be published by the Department for
Transport today will admit they have contributed to the rise in food prices
because land has been switched from food production to plant-derived
alternatives to petrol and diesel.
Mr Brown hopes the G8 leaders can unblock the stalled world trade talks,
which could collapse in the next few weeks.
The Cabinet Office study concludes that urgent action is needed on the
supply of and demand for food. "The solution lies in raising the potential
of food production in the developing world," it says. "If yields in Africa
and elsewhere reached their potential, global food output would be much
higher, far fewer people would go hungry and social instability around the
world would decrease."
Oxfam accused G8 leaders of an "inadequate and hypocritical" response to the
food crisis. Phil Bloomer, its spokesman, said: "World leaders ... must
reiterate their promises to increase aid ... and make the necessary reforms
including increasing investment in agriculture in poor countries."
ebe
Hi,
It is interesting now in the US, those in the lowest 20% spend about
15-20% of their income on food. It is not for snacks, it is for basic
items -- some days without milk, others without meat, no deserts at
all. The basis of a food policy worldwide is a good one (you cannot
expect people to be their if they are underfed, malnourished, or are
worrying about whether to skip breakfast that day or only eat once or
twice per day as is common even in the US with food stamps because
some states violate federal laws and do not give the proper benefit
level.) (Then, the money the federal government gives the states to
provide proper benefits goes to pay for salaries and the people still
do not get the proper benefit level -- i.e. living on $88/mo food
stamp benefit in the US with an income of less than $9K/year).
Nebulous
"D. Spencer Hines" <pan...@excelsior.com> wrote in message news:Hweck.44
1513, 26 November, Perth, General Council
Additional Source
26 November 1513
[A1513/1]* [print] [email] [cite] [following]
Procedure: deliberations concerning the Scottish ambassadors' mission in
France
At the general council held at Perth, 26 November 1513, these lords
underwritten convened: that is to say, the most reverent and reverend
fathers in God James [Beaton], archbishop of Glasgow, chancellor, William
[Elphinstone], bishop of Aberdeen, James [Chisholm], bishop of Dunblane,
Andrew [Stewart], bishop of Caithness, David [Hamilton], bishop of Argyll,
Edward [Stewart], bishop of Orkney, venerable fathers in God John [Hepburn],
prior of St Andrews, George [Crichton], abbot of Holyroodhouse, Robert
[Shaw], abbot of Paisley, William [Turnbull], abbot of Coupar [Angus], Henry
[Orme], abbot of Lindores, James [Hepburn], postulate of Dunfermline, John
[Home], abbot? of Jedburgh, Patrick [Panter],? postulate of Cambuskenneth,
Andrew [Stewart], postulate of Caithness, Master Gavin Dunbar, archdean of
St Andrews, Master Robert Forman, dean of Glasgow, Master Walter Drummond,
dean of Dunblane, for the spirituality; noble and mighty lords Colin
[Campbell], earl of Argyll etc., James [Hamilton], earl of Arran, James
[Douglas], earl of Morton, John [Stewart], earl of Lennox, William [Hay],
earl of Erroll, Alexander [Lindsay], earl of Crawford, William [Keith], earl
Marischal, John [Stewart], earl of Atholl, Gilbert [Kennedy], earl of
Cassilis, Hugh [Montgomery], earl of Eglinton, Alexander [Home], lord Home,
John [Drummond], lord Drummond, John [Fleming], lord Fleming, John
[Oliphant], lord Oliphant, John [Erskine], lord Erskine, William [Ruthven],
lord Ruthven, Robert [Maxwell], lord Maxwell, John [Forbes], lord Forbes,
Ninian [Ross], lord Ross [of Hawkhead], Robert [Crichton], lord Sanquhar,
William [Keith], master of Marischal, John [Montgomery], master of
Montgomery, William Murray of Tullibardine, William Menteith of Kerse,
Patrick Crichton of Cranston, Patrick Hamilton of Glencavill, knights, David
Bruce of Clackmannan, Andrew Kerr of Ferniehirst, Sir James Shaw of Sauchie,
knight, Philip Nisbet of that Ilk, Alexander Home of Spott, Gilbert Menzies
[of Findon], provost of Aberdeen, Alexander Blair, provost of Perth, and
Master James Wishart of Pittarrow, justice clerk, upon certain matters
proposed by Monsieur Labatie, Frenchman, and Master James Ogilvie, Scotsman,
ambassadors to the Most Christian King, Louis [XII], king of France, sent to
[James V], the king's grace, [Margaret Tudor, his mother], the queen, the
three estates and to the great council of Scotland, having sufficient power
thereto, and especially regarding two articles. That is to say, the first
making mention how that beyond memory of man there has been an alliance and
confederation between the kings of France of Scotland, as at more length is
contained in the same, observed, ratified and kept between the said kings,
their realms and lieges and all there, last ratified, renewed and confirmed
between the said Most Christian King, Louis, now king of France, and James
IV, last king of Scotland, whom God absolve, and kept to this day, the which
Sir Anthony and Master James, ambassadors foresaid, showed in the presence
of the said lords above-written that it was liked by and pleased the said
king's grace of France to have the said old alliance and of new made between
the said kings of before confirmed and ratified under the said kings' great
seals authentically, and desired the lords foresaid in the name of the
king's grace of Scotland to consent to the said ratification and
confirmation and to send their ambassadors with sufficient power to the said
Most Christian King for the same. Secondly, the said ambassadors showed how
it was desired by [James Hamilton], earl of Arran, and [John Fleming], lord
Fleming, being now lately in France, sent by the king's grace of Scotland,
whom God absolve, to serve the said Most Christian King in his wars, that
since the said king of Scotland, together with many of his nobles and
lieges, was slain and destroyed in battle now in Northumberland by the
enemies from England, principally in the quarrel of France, it would please
and be liked by the said Most Christian King to send [John Stewart], duke of
Albany, with his help and munitions and with all manner of necessities of
war to the realm of Scotland for the defence of the young king of Scotland,
the queen, his said realm and nobles, as the letter of state of the said
Most Christian King and the response to the said articles and certain others
subscribed with his hand more largely purport. And the said ambassadors
desired that the foresaid lords there presently whether they thought it was
expedient and would consent that the said Duke [of Albany] should come home
or not to the effect foresaid. The which ambassadors being removed and
departed from the said lords, and the said lords conversing and debating
about the said two articles and of all the circumstances of them and
thereafter fully advised, all in one voice, decided as to the first article
they thought that this alliance and confederation was made, observed and
kept of so long a time between the kings of France and Scotland and all this
last between the king of France that now is and our sovereign lord, whom God
absolve, that last deceased, they could not consent to give counsel to
weaken or violate the said confederation in any point, but were content and
consented presently that the said alliance and confederation, old and new,
should be confirmed and ratified between the said kings of France and
Scotland that now reign, and that ambassadors should be sent with sufficient
power and commission to the realm of France for the confirmation and
completing of the same in all points and in all possible haste. And as to
the second article expressed above, all the lords foresaid consented that
the Duke of Albany should come home to the realm of Scotland for the helping
of the said realm and against their enemies of England, to do service to the
young king, queen and realm in the said defence, with all munitions for war
that could be got and obtained from the said Most Christian King, and with
him Sir Robert Stewart and all the Scottish men now being in France that
could get license from the said Most Christian King to come with him for the
defence foresaid; and, failing that the said Duke of Albany might not come
for cause of death, in that case the said lords refer the person to be sent
for the defence foresaid with the said munitions to the wisdom and
discretion of the said Most Christian King, and Robert Stewart with the
Scotsmen to come with him as said is, providing always that the person of
the most noble king of Scotland be surely kept well in his young age and
after the tenor and plan of [James IV], the king's grace, whom God absolve,
made in his last will and testament thereupon etc.
Nebulous
"ebe" <minis...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:80e69a98-9fb8-4630-b4a6-
12 July 1515
[A1515/7/1]* [print] [email] [cite] [preceding] [following]
Procedure: preamble
Parliament of the most excellent prince and our lord, the lord James V, by
the grace of God, most illustrious king of Scots, held and begun at
Edinburgh on Thursday, 12 July 1515, by the illustrious and magnificent
prince John [Stewart], duke of Albany etc., tutor and governor of the
aforesaid lord, our king, and the realm, along with the prelates, barons,
nobles and burgh commissioners contained in a special commission and read
through there, assembled in the said parliament representing the three
estates etc. On the which day, the suits called and the court of parliament
fenced, the absentees made clear in the rolls.
Legislation
[A1515/7/2]*[print] [email] [cite] [preceding] [following]
In the first, it is statute that the freedoms, privileges and immunities of
the Holy Kirk and other spiritual persons be observed and kept in honour and
worship in the time of [James V], our sovereign lord, and [John Stewart,
duke of Albany], my lord governor that now is, as it has been in times
bygone.
[A1515/7/3]*[print] [email] [cite] [preceding] [following]
Item, because the crimes of theft and violent robbery are so commonly used
amongst the king's lieges, and for staunching of the same, it is statute and
ordained in this present parliament that where any of the king's lieges
express a grievance or complain upon a thief that has reived or stolen his
gear or his men's, and is in service or submission of any man and shows the
same to the man that he is in service with, and would summon him to the law
for the same, this man that this thief or reiver is in service with, or
finds him with him or under his submission, shall be held and obliged to
produce and bring him to the law before the justice, sheriffs or any others
that have knowledge to do justice upon such persons, committers of such
crimes, at days and places affixed to them to underlie the same, or else
shall deliver the said thief or reiver to the complainer, to be brought to
the law and execute justice upon as said is; and if his master or sustainer
of this thief or reiver refuses to do the same, he shall be held art and
partaker of his evil deeds and shall be accused thereof as the principal
thief or reiver, and also shall restore and satisfy to the complainer the
goods reived or stolen from him; and if this complainer, after he has
arrested this thief or delivered him as said is, would make agreement with
the said thief and take thift-bute? and put him from the law, in that case
he shall underlie the law and be accused thereof as principal thief or
reiver; and if he arrests and accuses him of the said theft or robbery and
is found innocent thereof, the said complainer shall be held and obliged to
give to the said man that he slanders innocently £10 to make amends for the
said slander.
[A1515/7/4]*[print] [email] [cite] [preceding] [following]
Legislation: private act (abstract)
[King James, etc., to all his men, etc. Grants, with the consent and assent
of John [Stewart], duke of Albany, his tutor and the protector and governor
of his realm, and the lords chosen to the [committee of the] articles in
parliament, to Robert Borthwick, the king's master of works, and Katherine
Borthwick, his spouse, all the lands of Ballencrieff in which Robert was not
infeft by James IV, with all the fermes and profits, until the king's
perfect age, nor at the pleasure of the duke of Albany. To be held by Robert
and Katherine, or the longest survivor, for the period already mentioned,
with the usual rights. Under the great seal. Witnesses omitted.
[... ... ...]
At Edinburgh, 23 July, second year of the reign.]
D. Spencer Hines
Pogueish "Liberals" On The Run.
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor
"Zombywoof" <Zomby...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:slc474ljfmb4idql3...@4ax.com...
>>
> Ok, I can speak directly to this as my wife & I own & operated a
> Seafood retail store & take-out restaurant. First & foremost "Food
> Stamps" cannot be used for "Snacks", although many try.
>
> Secondly the monthly amount for a single person is $162.00, for a
> family of four $542.00. As the head-of-household for a family of
> four, I know our Grocery Store bill isn't $542.00 a month, even now
> with prices increasing.
>
> Now you should see what happens @ our store on or about the first of
> the month when the EBT cards are re-charged. We get people buying
> Alaskan King Crab Legs, Snow Crab Clusters, Lobster & Jumbo shrimp
> (all the most expensive items in our store) in droves. Sometimes $300
> dollars worth at a time which happened this past Friday.
>
> So with my first-hand experience, please don't even attempt to pass
> this old-tired "Liberal" bullshit off on me, I know better.
Nebulous
"D. Spencer Hines" <pan...@excelsior.com> wrote in message news:eSrck.48
n-parliamentary record: decreet of secret council
On 3 May next following afterwards at Edinburgh, the king then residing
there, it was ordained in his secret council concerning the standing and
means of living of the king himself and also the queen [Euphemia de Ross],
and concerning the regulation and governance of their households, and
concerning the keepership and sustenance of the castles by the means which
is contained in another register made concerning such non-permanent
ordinances and deeds. Present in the said council were the lord [William de
Landels], bishop of St Andrews, the lord [William Douglas, 1st] earl of
Douglas, Sir John de Carrick, chancellor, Sir Walter de Biggar, chamberlain,
Sir Robert de Erskine, Sir James de Douglas, Sir Hugh of Eglinton and John
Lyon, keeper of the privy seal of our lord the king.
Nebulous
"Zombywoof" <Zomby...@cox.net> wrote in message
Non-parliamentary record: account of homage and fealty given in parliament
And so, after the aforesaid coronation and anointing had been celebrated
duly, amicably and solemnly in all ways, as was proper, the next day, with
the king sitting on the royal throne upon the hill of Scone, as is the
custom, the prelates, earls and barons and nobles written below assembled
and compeared in his presence: namely, the lord William de Landels, bishop
of St Andrews, the lord Walter de Wardlaw, bishop of Glasgow, the lord
Alexander de Kininmont, bishop of Aberdeen, the lord Alexander Bur, bishop
of Moray, the lord Patrick de Leuchers, bishop of Brechin, the lord Walter
de Coventry, bishop of Dunblane, the lord Stephen Pay, prior of St Andrews,
[John de Strathmiglo] abbot of Dunfermline, [John] abbot of Arbroath, [John]
abbot of the monastery of Holyrood of Edinburgh, [Roger] abbot of Lindores
and the abbot? of Scone; Sir John Stewart, the king's firstborn, earl of
Carrick and steward of Scotland, Sir David Stewart, younger son of the king,
earl of Strathearn, Sir Thomas earl of Mar, Sir William earl of Douglas, Sir
Robert Stewart, the king's son, earl of Menteith, Sir Alexander Stewart, the
king's son, barons; and the nobles, namely, [Walter de Faslane] lord of
Lennox, Thomas de Hay, constable of Scotland, Sir William de Keith,
marischal of Scotland, Sir Archibald de Douglas, Sir Robert de Erskine, Sir
Alexander de Lindsay, Sir David de Graham, Sir Walter de Haliburton,
knights, Sir John de Carrick, chancellor, and Sir Walter de Biggar,
chamberlain of Scotland, also William de Cunningham, James de Douglas, James
Fraser, Alexander Fraser, William de Dishington, David Watson, David de
Annan, Roger de Mortimer, Robert de Ramsay, Alan Stewart, Duncan Wallace,
Robert Stewart, George de Abernethy, David Fleming, Nicholas de Erskine,
John de Lyle, Simon de Preston, John de Maxwell, John de Strachan, Robert de
Dalziel and Walter de Ogilvy, John de Tours, Sir Alexander Stewart, and
Andrew Campbell, knights,? the lord of Seton, John Kennedy and Gillespic
Campbell, William de Fenton, John de Sinclair, John de Crawford, Alexander
de Straton, Alexander Scrimgeour, John de Crichton, Patrick Gray, John de
Menzies, Robert de Normanville, John, lord of Livingston, John de Cragie,
Hugh Fraser, Alexander de Strachan, and Donald MacNair. All of whom
individually made homage and oaths of fealty to our said lord the king apart
from the lord Bishop of Dunblane and Sir Archibald de Douglas, who had
nevertheless performed oaths of fealty.
Bryn
And who said Old Peely-Wally gob lacks a sense of humour?
Bryn
Bryn
> "D. Spencer Hines" <pant...@excelsior.com> wrote in message news:Hweck.44
Now these guys _really_ knew how to be criminals...
Bryn
ebe
> On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 19:05:17 -0700 (PDT), ebe <miniskir...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> <snip>>It is interesting now in the US, those in the lowest 20% spend about
> >15-20% of their income on food. It is not for snacks, it is for basic
> >items -- some days without milk, others without meat, no deserts at
> >all. The basis of a food policy worldwide is a good one (you cannot
> >expect people to be their if they are underfed, malnourished, or are
> >worrying about whether to skip breakfast that day or only eat once or
> >twice per day as is common even in the US with food stamps because
> >some states violate federal laws and do not give the proper benefit
> >level.) (Then, the money the federal government gives the states to
> >provide proper benefits goes to pay for salaries and the people still
> >do not get the proper benefit level -- i.e. living on $88/mo food
> >stamp benefit in the US with an income of less than $9K/year).
>
> Seafood retail store & take-out restaurant. First & foremost "Food
> Stamps" cannot be used for "Snacks", although many try.
>
> Secondly the monthly amount for a single person is $162.00, for a
> family of four $542.00. As the head-of-household for a family of
> four, I know our Grocery Store bill isn't $542.00 a month, even now
> with prices increasing.
>
> Now you should see what happens @ our store on or about the first of
> the month when the EBT cards are re-charged. We get people buying
> Alaskan King Crab Legs, Snow Crab Clusters, Lobster & Jumbo shrimp
> (all the most expensive items in our store) in droves. Sometimes $300
> dollars worth at a time which happened this past Friday.
>
> So with my first-hand experience, please don't even attempt to pass
> this old-tired "Liberal" bullshit off on me, I know better.
>
> Programhttp://www.fns.usda.gov/fsp/applicant_recipients/fs_Res_Ben_Elig.htm
>
> --
> "Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites.
> Moderation is for monks."
Hi,
I am sorry you are so bitter. However, in France today food riots
started. Maybe it takes for 10 million to die of lack of food as in
the former Soviet Union or for people to protest before they die
because they deserve to live. Maybe, you may consider me a liberal,
but I believe all life is sacred and everyone has the right to live,
not those who are part of the connected group. I always remember my
professor who worked for the UN, when I was in Pre-Med in the 1980's,
that the UN had a policy not to play politics with food. Ok, when the
food riots come to the US, don't be surprised, people are kind, but
they will survive even if others want them dead by having them
malnourished.
As to the liberal label, if requesting that everyone eat a basic diet
everyday is liberal. Good.
I can see I am odd duck here...Thanks for helping make up my mind for
the upcoming presidential election. (By the way, watching "Hair", "The
Quiet American",seeing an episode of season 4 of "Alias" regarding
internal power games, made take the blinders off). I can the see
pendulum has swung too far over to one side since 1980, it is time for
it to swing back.
By the way, on the telecom wire tapping bill, I do not favor immunity
for the telecom companies if this response represents the members of
that group.
Let me know if this response represents this group.
ebe
> On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 19:05:17 -0700 (PDT), ebe <miniskir...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >15-20% of their income on food. It is not for snacks, it is for basic
> >items -- some days without milk, others without meat, no deserts at
> >all. The basis of a food policy worldwide is a good one (you cannot
> >expect people to be their if they are underfed, malnourished, or are
> >worrying about whether to skip breakfast that day or only eat once or
> >twice per day as is common even in the US with food stamps because
> >some states violate federal laws and do not give the proper benefit
> >level.) (Then, the money the federal government gives the states to
> >provide proper benefits goes to pay for salaries and the people still
> >do not get the proper benefit level -- i.e. living on $88/mo food
> >stamp benefit in the US with an income of less than $9K/year).
>
> Seafood retail store & take-out restaurant. First & foremost "Food
> Stamps" cannot be used for "Snacks", although many try.
>
> Secondly the monthly amount for a single person is $162.00, for a
> family of four $542.00. As the head-of-household for a family of
> four, I know our Grocery Store bill isn't $542.00 a month, even now
> with prices increasing.
>
> Now you should see what happens @ our store on or about the first of
> the month when the EBT cards are re-charged. We get people buying
> Alaskan King Crab Legs, Snow Crab Clusters, Lobster & Jumbo shrimp
> (all the most expensive items in our store) in droves. Sometimes $300
> dollars worth at a time which happened this past Friday.
>
> So with my first-hand experience, please don't even attempt to pass
> this old-tired "Liberal" bullshit off on me, I know better.
>
> In case you are interested, here is the factsheet on the Food Stamp
> Programhttp://www.fns.usda.gov/fsp/applicant_recipients/fs_Res_Ben_Elig.htm
>
> --
> "Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites.
> Moderation is for monks."
Hi,
It is interesting how you wish this reply of your to be removed in six
days. Interesting. Very Interesting.
ebe
> On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 19:05:17 -0700 (PDT), ebe <miniskir...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >15-20% of their income on food. It is not for snacks, it is for basic
> >items -- some days without milk, others without meat, no deserts at
> >all. The basis of a food policy worldwide is a good one (you cannot
> >expect people to be their if they are underfed, malnourished, or are
> >worrying about whether to skip breakfast that day or only eat once or
> >twice per day as is common even in the US with food stamps because
> >some states violate federal laws and do not give the proper benefit
> >level.) (Then, the money the federal government gives the states to
> >provide proper benefits goes to pay for salaries and the people still
> >do not get the proper benefit level -- i.e. living on $88/mo food
> >stamp benefit in the US with an income of less than $9K/year).
>
> Seafood retail store & take-out restaurant. First & foremost "Food
> Stamps" cannot be used for "Snacks", although many try.
>
> Secondly the monthly amount for a single person is $162.00, for a
> family of four $542.00. As the head-of-household for a family of
> four, I know our Grocery Store bill isn't $542.00 a month, even now
> with prices increasing.
>
> Now you should see what happens @ our store on or about the first of
> the month when the EBT cards are re-charged. We get people buying
> Alaskan King Crab Legs, Snow Crab Clusters, Lobster & Jumbo shrimp
> (all the most expensive items in our store) in droves. Sometimes $300
> dollars worth at a time which happened this past Friday.
>
> So with my first-hand experience, please don't even attempt to pass
> this old-tired "Liberal" bullshit off on me, I know better.
>
> In case you are interested, here is the factsheet on the Food Stamp
> Programhttp://www.fns.usda.gov/fsp/applicant_recipients/fs_Res_Ben_Elig.htm
>
> --
> "Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites.
> Moderation is for monks."
Hi,
Also, the $162/mo for a single person is the maximum benefit, this is
calculated by $162- 0.3 * net income. So, a persons does not receive
$162 unless their net income is $0.00, which in many ways is not the
case.
Ok, I guess for some it is all right for some in the US to be
malnourished, they are not people, right. So, if they collapse because
they diabetic, due to low blood sugar, because they could not eat
right the last fews day, go to a hospital and die, it is good... One
less person to see in the store and society, and more for those who
are ... So, what is inscribed on the Statue of Liberty no longer
applies, right?
J A
"ebe" <minis...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:2edf1f76-3436-427b-8c0e-
>Ok, when the
> food riots come to the US, don't be surprised,
The only food riots we're likely to experience here, will come from denying
the right of fat fucks to gorge themselves at McDonalds, if it ever happens.
We're puttng pre-teens on statins now.
A famine would improve America.
Raymond O'Hara
the telecoms are using the old "i vus only follovink orders" defense.
Raymond O'Hara
as long as someone replies the post will live forever in googles archives.
i deal with a poster who does the same thing, so even if i don't reply i
click reply to save his stuff.
D. Spencer Hines
All Eight Of Them.
And they EXCLUDED the three Africans -- maybe more.
Cries of RACISM will be coming shortly.
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor
G8 summit: Gordon Brown has eight-course dinner before food crisis talks
By Robert Winnett, Deputy Political Editor in Hokkaido, Japan
Last updated: 2:03 AM BST 08/07/2008
The Telegraph
Gordon Brown and his fellow world leaders have sparked outrage after it was
disclosed they enjoyed a six-course lunch followed by an eight-course dinner
at the G8 summit where the global food crisis tops the agenda.
The Prime Minister was served 24 different dishes during his first day at
the summit – just hours after urging the world to reduce the "unnecessary
demand" for food and calling on British families to cut back on their
wasteful use of food.
Mr Brown and his wife Sarah were among 15 guests at the "blessings of the
earth and the sea social dinner".
The dinner consisted of 18 dishes in eight courses including caviar, smoked
salmon, Kyoto beef and a "G8 fantasy dessert".
The banquet was accompanied by five different wines from around the world
including champagne, a French Bourgogne and sake.
African leaders including the heads of Ethiopia, Tanzania and Senegal who
had taken part in talks during the day were not invited to the function.
The dinner came just hours after a "working lunch" consisting of six courses
including white asparagus and truffle soup, crab and a supreme of chicken.
The lavish dining arrangements – disclosed by the Japanese Government which
is hosting the summit in Hokkaido – come amid growing concern over rising
food prices triggered by a shortage of many basic necessities.
On the flight to the summit, Mr Brown urged Britons to cut food waste as
part of a global drive to help avert the food crisis.
Opposition politicians and charities condemned the extravagant meals.
Dominic Nutt, of Save the Children, said: "It is deeply hypocritical that
they should be lavishing course after course on world leaders when there is
a food crisis and millions cannot afford a decent meal to eat.
INDEED! -- DSH
"If the G8 wants to betray the hopes of a generation of children, it is
going the right way about it. The food crisis is an emergency and the G8
must treat it as that."
Andrew Mitchell, the shadow International Development Secretary, said: "The
G8 have made a bad start to their summit, with excessive cost and lavish
consumption.
"Surely it is not unreasonable for each leader to give a guarantee that they
will stand by their solemn pledges of three years ago at Gleneagles to help
the world's poor. All of us are watching, waiting and listening."
Mr Brown arrived at the G8 summit held on the holiday island of Hokkaido in
northern Japan on Monday morning.
He arrived on a plane chartered from Texas, America, which had to fly empty
for thousands of miles to pick up the Prime Minister and his entourage.
Unlike other countries, Britain does not have an official plane to transport
the Prime Minister.
The lavish dining will embarrass Mr Brown, who has made tackling the global
food crisis a key priority.
On the flight to the summit, the Prime Minister urged British people to cut
food waste and "reduce unnecessary demand".
He said: "We need a global plan to deal with rising food prices that are
affecting millions of families in Britain. That's why I am proposing that we
take action to both increase the global supply of food and reduce
unnecessary demand.
"If we are to get food prices down, we must also do more to deal with
unnecessary demand, such as by all of us doing more to cut our food waste
which is costing the average household in Britain around £8 per week."
Talks between world leaders at the summit will focus on dealing with soaring
food and oil prices.
There is also hope for a breakthrough on protracted talks to secure a new
global trade deal.
However, the leaders are facing criticism amid allegations that pledges for
development aid promised for the third world at a previous G8 summit in
Scotland have been watered down.
The Prime Minister's spokesman declined to comment on the menus.
Fred J. McCall
:
:Maybe, you may consider me a liberal,
:but I believe all life is sacred and everyone has the right to live,
:not those who are part of the connected group.
No, we consider you a liberal because you emote but don't perform,
while demanding that everyone else pay the bill for your emotion.
So tell us, have you shared out all your resources to help achieve
your goal? If there is someone somewhere on the planet who is worse
off than you, you are not performing to your professed convictions.
If you don't, why should we?
--
"Before you embark on a journey of revenge dig two graves."
-- Confucius
Raymond O'Hara
> money off my scribbling's? They are mine and I can put an expiration
> date on them if I so desire. Look up US Copyright law.
make money???
no you do it so you can't be called on it at a later date.
you don't have the courage of your convictions to let your words face the
test of time.
we have a word for that, cowardice
William Black
. However, in France today food riots
> started.
That doesn't seem to have made the news.
--
William Black
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.
William Black
"Bryn" <brianlo...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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On 8 Jul, 13:31, "William Black" <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> "ebe" <miniskir...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:2edf1f76-3436-427b...@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
> . However, in France today food riots
>
> > started.
>
> That doesn't seem to have made the news.
Odd that!
--------------
Isn't it.
You'd have thought someone this side of the Channel would have noticed...
The odd returning holiday maker mentioning the croissant shortage, the
sudden lack of snails in the shops, no frog's legs to be had for love of
money...
Still, maybe they didn't notice...
Bryn
>
> news:2edf1f76-3436-427b...@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
> . However, in France today food riots
>
> > started.
>
> That doesn't seem to have made the news.
Odd that!
Bryn
Adam Whyte-Settlar
"Bryn" <brianlo...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:351cb069-e5fa-43b7...@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> "ebe" <miniskir...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:2edf1f76-3436-427b...@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
> . However, in France today food riots
>
> > started.
>
> That doesn't seem to have made the news.
Odd that!
The Tour de France is on.
Bryn
> "Bryn" <brianlovett...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
That would certainly take second place to civil unrest...
Bryn
Bryn
My previous response....
Oh hell you know what I mean't...
Bryn
Bryn
Something odd just happened...
Bryn
Cory Bhreckan
Dew tell.
--
"For the stronger we our houses do build,
The less chance we have of being killed." - William Topaz McGonagall
conwaycaine
In France?
Hardly......
Wait. I misread.
Exactly!!
Adam Whyte-Settlar
"conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Clearly you both know nothing of cycle racing.
Civil unrest is a weekly event in France, but Le Tour?
It's getting quite interesting now the time trials and sprints are over.
It's particularly gratifying to observe that the French contingent are
suffering a piss-poor patch just now.
Yuk yuk yuk. Die you Frog losers.
I fancy Valverde's chances myself.
As the veteran regs might recall I was something of a cycle freak myself in
my youth. I have never been without a bike and indeed have a supurb specimen
in the shed right now and I am fitting cycle racks to the housebus of
course. These days I'm limited to occasional jaunts in those all too brief
periods when there is daylight but the temperature is still below 25C.
Nevertheless I was still riding 15 miles over 1000 ft every day just five
years ago.
However it was in my intense health-freak/athletic period during my
mid-twenties that I thought I was truly the king of the mountain. I was
super-fit, did 80 minutes yoga a day in addition to riding 30 miles over
1000 ft almost every day. Not to mention my organic macrobiotic diet regime
and strict abstinence from all drink and drugs other than the most lethally
virile of psychotropic hallucinogens (allegedly). Then, at the absolute
pinnacle of my considerable cycling abilities, I was utterly outclassed by
every one of a local team of about 30 riders - some of whom had 15 years on
me - super-fitman-and-his-well-oiled-light-as-air-machine-as-one going
absolutely flat out and being overtaken by a stream of kids and their
geriatric mentors on 30 kilo bone-shakers.
Un****ingbelievable.
These people just aren't human.
Those aren't thighs - they're illegally imported skin-toned titanium
pistons.
Shortly after my humiliating introduction into the realities of proffesional
sports cycling standards I bought a 250cc Kawasaki trail bike and took to
the drink.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
"Cory Bhreckan" <coryv...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
news:ZUndk.806$713.380@trnddc03...
> Bryn wrote:
>> On 10 Jul, 13:38, "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote:
>>> "Bryn" <brianlovett...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:351cb069-e5fa-43b7...@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>> On 8 Jul, 13:31, "William Black" <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "ebe" <miniskir...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:2edf1f76-3436-427b...@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>>> . However, in France today food riots
>>>>> started.
>>>> That doesn't seem to have made the news.
>>> Odd that!
>>>
>>> The Tour de France is on.
>>
>> Something odd just happened...
>>
>> Bryn
>
> Dew tell.
What the **** is he rambling on about?
He seems to think I should understand.
That's a bit scary.
Cory Bhreckan
Speaking of p*ss, how long, do you figger, until the first one tests
positive?
> Yuk yuk yuk. Die you Frog losers.
> I fancy Valverde's chances myself.
>
> As the veteran regs might recall I was something of a cycle freak myself in
> my youth. I have never been without a bike and indeed have a supurb specimen
> in the shed right now and I am fitting cycle racks to the housebus of
> course. These days I'm limited to occasional jaunts in those all too brief
> periods when there is daylight but the temperature is still below 25C.
> Nevertheless I was still riding 15 miles over 1000 ft every day just five
> years ago.
> However it was in my intense health-freak/athletic period during my
> mid-twenties that I thought I was truly the king of the mountain. I was
> super-fit, did 80 minutes yoga a day in addition to riding 30 miles over
> 1000 ft almost every day. Not to mention my organic macrobiotic diet regime
> and strict abstinence from all drink and drugs other than the most lethally
> virile of psychotropic hallucinogens (allegedly).
No wonder you were outclassed. You were using the wrong dope (allegedly).
> Then, at the absolute
> pinnacle of my considerable cycling abilities, I was utterly outclassed by
> every one of a local team of about 30 riders - some of whom had 15 years on
> me - super-fitman-and-his-well-oiled-light-as-air-machine-as-one going
> absolutely flat out and being overtaken by a stream of kids and their
> geriatric mentors on 30 kilo bone-shakers.
> Un****ingbelievable.
> These people just aren't human.
> Those aren't thighs - they're illegally imported skin-toned titanium
> pistons.
> Shortly after my humiliating introduction into the realities of proffesional
> sports cycling standards I bought a 250cc Kawasaki trail bike and took to
> the drink.
>
>
>
Cory Bhreckan
Shhh, I'm humouring him.
Ian Smith
> "conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:zzodk.24108$3F5....@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>>
>> "Bryn" <brianlo...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>> news:526766c4-0a5e-4429-
b5ca-536...@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>>> On 10 Jul, 13:38, "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote:
>>>> "Bryn" <brianlovett...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news:351cb069-e5fa-43b7-
afcc-1a9...@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
Lol! That's the spirit. But seriously, the pros must have bionics in
there somewhere.
Bryn
wrote:
>
> - Show quoted text -
Time lag...
Bryn
Adam Whyte-Settlar
Usually a few minutes after he wins it.
It's all so ridiculous. They should just allow all athletes to take whatever
drugs they want, in whatever quantities they desire, all the ****ing time
and so even the playing field and there's an end to it.
I mean they already do anyway.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
"Ian Smith" <ianin...@btinternet.naespam.com> wrote in message
news:48766d75$0$5643$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>> Shortly after my humiliating introduction into the realities of
>> proffesional sports cycling standards I bought a 250cc Kawasaki trail
>> bike and took to the drink.
>
> Lol! That's the spirit. But seriously, the pros must have bionics in
> there somewhere.
Honestly, they're on another plane.
I couldn't believe the performance disparity.
conwaycaine
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
news:8cydnTHsW7K8uuvV...@westnet.com.au...<Snip>
I can sympathize.
I watched a group of bikers racing up and down the mountains of North
Carolina in what seemed to be some sort of pale imitation of the Frenchie
race.
Now we are talking about pedaling up some very steep roads here.
And the congestion was unbelievable.
One wreck and the entire pack went down.
Bodies clad in too tight spandex and silly looking helmets were lying
everywhere (those that didn't take a header over the edge of the road and
down the side of the mountain).
What a "sport".
Cory Bhreckan
Speaking on North Carolina, I couldn't help noticing that Jesse Helms
has gone home to Hell. Were you at the fumigation?
> Now we are talking about pedaling up some very steep roads here.
> And the congestion was unbelievable.
> One wreck and the entire pack went down.
> Bodies clad in too tight spandex and silly looking helmets were lying
> everywhere (those that didn't take a header over the edge of the road and
> down the side of the mountain).
> What a "sport".
>
>
>
>
Cory Bhreckan
Last year I don't think they were done with the first time trial before
a whole team got the boot.
> It's all so ridiculous. They should just allow all athletes to take whatever
> drugs they want, in whatever quantities they desire, all the ****ing time
> and so even the playing field and there's an end to it.
> I mean they already do anyway.
>
>
conwaycaine
> conwaycaine wrote:
>
> Speaking on North Carolina, I couldn't help noticing that Jesse Helms has
> gone home to Hell. Were you at the fumigation?
Jessie Helms was a bit more complicated than his detractors will admit to.
He came down on the wrong side of many issues, including race, but he was
constant in his views.
Everyone knew where Senator Helms stood.
His effect on modern conservatism in America was profound.
And in person he was one of the kindest men one could encounter.
He most assuredly was NOT the backwoods, racist country boy many pictured
him to be.
He was, as we all are, a blend of strengths and weaknesses.
Cory Bhreckan
> "Cory Bhreckan" <coryv...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:psKdk.8$6O4.5@trnddc06...
>> conwaycaine wrote:
>>
>> Speaking on North Carolina, I couldn't help noticing that Jesse Helms has
>> gone home to Hell. Were you at the fumigation?
>
> Jessie Helms was a bit more complicated than his detractors will admit to.
> He came down on the wrong side of many issues, including race, but he was
> constant in his views.
A consistent toad is still a toad. I'm sure he had his good points, even
Hitler loved his mother.
> Everyone knew where Senator Helms stood.
> His effect on modern conservatism in America was profound.
He introduced a toxic approach to partisan politics that no-one had
thought of before.
> And in person he was one of the kindest men one could encounter.
He used to race bait Senator Carol Mosley Braun by singing 'Dixie' in
the elevator. Real class with a capital K(KK).
> He most assuredly was NOT the backwoods, racist country boy many pictured
> him to be.
He represented the Southern power structure to the detriment of not only
African Americans but poor whites as well who bought into his disgusting
racial posturing.
> He was, as we all are, a blend of strengths and weaknesses.
The only decent thing he did in his miserable life was to die. How many
times did you vote for him?
Bryn
>
> - Show quoted text -
Sodding time lag!
I f**king hate Google!
Keeps sticking things in the wrong places....
Bryn
Jack Linthicum
wrote:
> conwaycaine wrote:
> > "Cory Bhreckan" <coryvrec...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
During World War II, Helms served stateside as a recruiter in the
United States Navy.
Wiki
Ever notice how the politicians "serve" but seldom find themselves far
from their hometown or near any danger?
Cory Bhreckan
A bunch of them on both sides 'served' honourably: JFK, Bush I, both
Kerrys and Dole come to mind. It's the worthless cowards like Helms and
Bush Jr., who are truly contemptible.
Cory Bhreckan
There are alternatives.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
The organisers have learned from last year's mistakes.
Have you checked the route? Not a chemist's shop in sight.
It was nice to see a total outsider (aka loser) like Sanchez win a stage. He
didn't even finish last year.
He was pure determination in the last 3 miles. There are very few riders
strong enough to pull off a lone finish like that - especially with that
wicked little 1 mile climb right near the end. That's a certain heartbreaker
for commitmentphobes like yours truly.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
I think its an A320.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
> One wreck and the entire pack went down.
Yes - it's a great spectator sport.
Happens quite a lot in Le Tour too. Usualy near the back of the main group
so no-one really cares that much but, occasionaly, it takes out one of the
favourites who was slack enough to be in danger zone at the wrong time.
I saw a brilliant piece of cycling theatre a couple of weeks back. I can't
remember who it was or what the race was but on a really fast descent on a
bendy cliffside forest tarmac road one rider - directly in front of the TV
motorbike - lost control at high speed, bike hit the barrier and rider went
hurtling - with truly spectacular grace - over the edge at about 45 miles
per hour. The camera bike screeched to a halt right where he was last
sighted and (I swear) you could hear the guy crashing over and over through
the branches and leaves of the trees and understory below. Eventualy the
noise stopped and - while the camera crew frantically debated what to do -
the biker eventualy reappeared, clambered up from the jungle below and
lifted most of his bike back over the metal crash barrier. Nothing daunted
he then gets back on his bike and pedals off. A bit unsteady at first to be
sure but SFAIR he was in the winning group.
Its tough at the top.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
He could stop posting?
Jellore
> "Cory Bhreckan" <coryvrec...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> news:huLdk.4$Cw5.3@trnddc01...
>
>
>
> > Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
> >>news:s7sdk.1167$4a3.478@trnddc04...
> >>> Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
> >>>>news:zzodk.24108$3F5....@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
He didn't ride last year. You must be thinking of 2006.
William Black
So does serving in the South Pacific make Nixon any less despicable?
--
William Black
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.
Jane Margaret Laight
> "Cory Bhreckan" <coryvrec...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
oh horse hockey, brother Caine!
My father, a conservative of the first order, was a Jesse Helms
supporter to the extent that we would have the old bastard to our
house in Raleigh--my Uncle Chuck would just shake his head and
mention, when he referred to Helms, as "often right, rarely correct".
Maybe Helms may not have been the "backwoods, racist country boy", but
he could play that role, and did, when he played up to my mother's
slackjawed and somewhat less sophisticated relatives from the coastal
plain--indeed, my dad, being an outsider with red hair, could relate
to this particular branch of the family only when Helms was
mentioned. My uncle, who served over thirty years in the Marines, but
never went to college, used to rail at my dad (who graduated from Mr.
Jefferson's College) about how much Helms was a brake on the wheels of
progress. "North Carolina needs to keep up with the rest of the USA,"
he would say, to which my dad would say "Jesse is keepin' an eye on
things; it'll be all right."
Us girls never liked him--he never did anything untoward to us, but
there was always something of what my grandmother used to call "a
scent of the barnyard" about him; something like Gomer Pyle in his
Sunday best going to the big city. He may have been "fearfully and
wonderfully made", but innovation and sophistication has never played
well in Carolina politics, which partly explains his success.
Love you anyway, Conway
JML
Carolina devil spawn
conwaycaine
"Jane Margaret Laight" <jml2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> He was, as we all are, a blend of strengths and weaknesses.
oh horse hockey, brother Caine!
***************************
One thing about people and Jesse, few were able to maintain the middle
ground.
Anyway
"The evil that men do lives after them. The good is oft interred with their
bones. So let it be with Jesse"
******************************
conwaycaine
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
>
> "conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:uMJdk.24653$Xe.1...@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
>
>> One wreck and the entire pack went down.
>
> Yes - it's a great spectator sport.
Tis true. The sight of all those skinny spandexed legs kicking frantically
in the air as they plunged off a 500 foot cliff was something to behold.
We talked about that one for years.
Bryn
> "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
>
> news:XbidnRKUh4luGuXV...@westnet.com.au...
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
The good old days..
Bryn
And the validation word tonight is 'chacite!'
D. Spencer Hines
As places to live.
DSH
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"Jane Margaret Laight" <jml2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Jul 11, 3:13 pm, "conwaycaine" <conwayca...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Jane Margaret Laight
> "Jane Margaret Laight" <jml27...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:f5a4d35b-bfd1-48d3...@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 11, 3:13 pm, "conwaycaine" <conwayca...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> <Snip>
>
> > He was, as we all are, a blend of strengths and weaknesses.
>
> oh horse hockey, brother Caine!
> ***************************
>
> One thing about people and Jesse, few were able to maintain the middle
> ground.
> Anyway
> "The evil that men do lives after them. The good is oft interred with their
> bones. So let it be with Jesse"
>
so this afternoon, before I do my wash, I will be sure to commemorate
Brother Helms in an appropriate fashion when I separate my whites from
my coloreds... :)
JML
registered independent
The Highlander
> "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
> Tis true. The sight of all those skinny spandexed legs kicking frantically
> in the air as they plunged off a 500 foot cliff was something to behold.
> We talked about that one for years.
That I would like to have seen. They ride in little packs around here,
swishing past the hoi polloi like me, noses and spandexed behinds in
the air, stopping for no one. They reek of SUVs and GPS systems and
are probably all computer programmers with girlfriends whose sole
function is to dart in and out of Starbucks for fresh coffee.
Recently I created an advertising campaign for one who works as a real
estate agent, and as he had nothing new to say to differentiate him
from the hordes of his fellow realtors, all making the same claims of
expertise, I decided to focus on his cycling and his success as a
sprint cyclist. To my stunned amazement, the public loved it and he is
now wallowing in new business. I can't begin to tell you how much that
annoyed me! At least he had the decency to pay my meagre bill after
some prompting...
I also did some work for a California paint company which had won the
painting contracts for the Beijing Olympics. They were delighted with
the campaign and added a bonus to my bill, along with a note from El
Presidente, saying how pleased they were. Not a cyclist in sight...
And to bring everything back down to reality, a realtor asked me to
write a book for him about making millions from real estate in a
falling market. He decided not to use my services after reading my
detailed quote for the job; saying he was a bit short on cash and
would have to think things over... I can't begin to imagine how bad
the book's advice must be if the expert can't even raise the money to
pay what was a very reasonable bill... When I told the printer that
the deal was off and why, he exploded with laughter. He won't be
buying the book either if it ever gets into print...
conwaycaine
The good old days..
Bryn
********
Reminds a true Scot of days gone by when they used to fling *nglishmen off
Scottish cliffs.
(Good to see you back posting again)
conwaycaine
"D. Spencer Hines" <pan...@excelsior.com> wrote in message
news:Pq6ek.124$AB3...@eagle.america.net...
> How are Chapel Hill and Durham these days?...
>
> As places to live.
Still college towns with all that entails.
But if you like that sort of artsy/crafty life style, they are yer man.
Charlotte NC, OTOH, rates quite highly as an all around good place to live.
conwaycaine
JML
registered independent
****************
Jesse would have been most proud of you.
(You'll not be visiting the Jesse Helms Library and Memorial any time soon
then..........)
D. Spencer Hines
DSH
"conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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D. Spencer Hines
Alexander III.
DSH
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"conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Bryn
> Or Scottish Kings who were flung off horseback and over cliffs -- as was
> Alexander III.
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> DSH
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> > Reminds a true Scot of days gone by when they used to fling *nglishmen off
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> - Show quoted text -
The Queen Mother did it!
Bryn
Cory Bhreckan
A Spaniard has already been sent of, right after the first leg.
>
> It was nice to see a total outsider (aka loser) like Sanchez win a stage. He
> didn't even finish last year.
> He was pure determination in the last 3 miles. There are very few riders
> strong enough to pull off a lone finish like that - especially with that
> wicked little 1 mile climb right near the end. That's a certain heartbreaker
> for commitmentphobes like yours truly.
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Cory Bhreckan
Nope.
Cory Bhreckan
That's one alternative. A catastrophic comet strike would be another
one, as would a nukyular war.
Adam Whyte-Settlar
He must have got it from the duty chemists on Sunday then.
Geez. They can't think of everything.
conwaycaine
"The Highlander" <mic...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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On Jul 12, 8:12 am, "conwaycaine" <conwayca...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote in message
> Tis true. The sight of all those skinny spandexed legs kicking frantically
> in the air as they plunged off a 500 foot cliff was something to behold.
> We talked about that one for years.
I agree. The stentch of Yuppyism abounds around those guys.
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Bryn
> "The Highlander" <mich...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
Pray tell... What is the difference between a real estate agent and
another kind? Lately none of ours have seemed very real, sort of
ghostly and translucent....
Bryn
Andrew Chaplin
QUOTE
UNQUOTE
When choosing among realtors, look for connections and a work ethic. If they
haven't got 'em both, they're not much use.
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)
conwaycaine
Fairly reasonable.
You might Google up some nationwide real estate listing service and shop
about for prices.
conwaycaine
*************
Precedence is everything over there..............
(Which Queen Mum?)
D. Spencer Hines
Durham?
DSH
"conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Raymond O'Hara
>>>> Ever notice how the politicians "serve" but seldom find themselves far
>>>> from their hometown or near any danger?
>>> A bunch of them on both sides 'served' honourably: JFK, Bush I, both
>>> Kerrys and Dole come to mind. It's the worthless cowards like Helms and
>>> Bush Jr., who are truly contemptible.
>>
>> So does serving in the South Pacific make Nixon any less despicable?
>>
>
> Nope.
>
Bush jr has been good for the tricksters reputation.
he's not so bad when compared to reagan and the chimp and the dickster still
retained a modicum of the sense of shame
conwaycaine
> Why is Charlotte, North Carolina a better place to live than Chapel Hill
> or Durham?
>
It's not necessarily better, it's more to do with the lifestyle one is
looking for.
D. Spencer Hines
What's the lifestyle of Charlotte, as differentiated from that of Raleigh,
Durham and Chapel Hill?
DSH
"conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Raymond O'Hara
> Yes...
>
> What's the lifestyle of Charlotte, as differentiated from that of Raleigh,
> Durham and Chapel Hill?
fewer natives.
conwaycaine
> Yes...
>
> What's the lifestyle of Charlotte, as differentiated from that of Raleigh,
> Durham and Chapel Hill?
Charlotte is more of a banker/business town.
The other group is more university oriented.
(Dare I say a bit more intellectually snobbish?)
Both areas are quite nice.
conwaycaine
"Raymond O'Hara" <raymon...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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You are right about that.
Native Charlotteans are hard to come by.
Which means that Charlotte is now an amalgam rather than Old South.
D. Spencer Hines
DSH
"conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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D. Spencer Hines
DSH
"conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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conwaycaine
"D. Spencer Hines" <pan...@excelsior.com> wrote in message
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conwaycaine
The influx of new citizens has been going on for decades and is constantly
accelerating.
Jobs, you see................
"D. Spencer Hines" <pan...@excelsior.com> wrote in message
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> Where did the natives go?
<Snip>
D. Spencer Hines
DSH
"conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Roger Conroy
> Where did the natives go?
>
> DSH
>
Mostly dead - from the Paleface's diseases and military superiority.
conwaycaine
And the high employment rate kept me and mine fed through thick and
thin.........
"D. Spencer Hines" <pan...@excelsior.com> wrote in message
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D. Spencer Hines
Research Triangle employment?
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DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor
"conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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conwaycaine
> Good!
>
> Research Triangle employment?
I'm not sure.
Google up Raleigh/Durham and check on that.
D. Spencer Hines
DSH
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"conwaycaine" <conwa...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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conwaycaine
Southwest of it.
Further, I'm retired and enjoying every minute of it (except for the
occasional bout of Sciatica).
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