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Re: New Labour Enforces Over 1000 Laws Which The State Can Cite To Enter Your Home Or Business

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D. Spencer Hines

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Jul 23, 2008, 4:24:44 AM7/23/08
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Yes...

Appalling!

The European Socialist Nanny State in Britain Marches On...

Just the sort of regime Barack Obama and his coterie of Left-Wing Loonies
want to saddle the United States with.
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

The march of the Big Brother state under Labour was highlighted last
night as it was revealed that there are now 1,043 laws that give the
authorities the power to enter a home or business.

Nearly half have been introduced since Labour came to power 11 years
ago. They include the right to:

• Invade your home to see if your pot plants have pests or do not have
a 'plant passport' (Plant Health England Order 2005).

• Survey your home and garden to see if your hedge is too high (Anti-
Social Behaviour Act 2003).

• Check that accommodation given to asylum seekers is not being lived
in by non-asylum seekers (Immigration and Asylum Act 1999).

• Raid a house to check if unlicensed gambling is taking place
(Gambling Act 2005 Inspection Regulations 2007).

• Seize fridges without the correct energy rating (Energy Information
Household Refrigerators and Freezers Regulations 2004).

The rise in clipboard-wielding state inspectors flies in the face of
repeated pledges by Ministers to curb the power of bureaucrats.

The full extent of the state's 'powers of entry' is revealed in
documents slipped out quietly by the Government last week.

The information was posted on the Home Office website, but in a highly
unusual move, the computer file was locked to prevent it being copied
or printed. A secret Home Office password was required to access the
file.

A Home Office spokeswoman denied the restrictions were an attempt to
stop the state's powers being circulated more widely.

She claimed it was a 'mistake' and the file would be unlocked
tomorrow.

Some 420 new powers of entry are the product of laws introduced since
1997. A further 16 are in laws due to be approved by Parliament in the
next few weeks.

A recent study by the Centre for Policy Studies think-tank warned that
the 'proliferation and variety' of such laws mean householders can no
longer 'realistically be aware' of their rights and legal obligations.

Gordon Brown last year announced a review of 'powers of entry' laws
and said they would be subjected to a 'liberty test' to stop abuses by
the state.

However, new powers set to be approved by Parliament include
inspecting for non-human genetic material, for looted cultural
property from Iraq and for 'undeclared' carbon dioxide, as well as
enforcing bin tax.

Town hall 'bin police' already have the right to enter homes, take
photographs, seize contents of bins, and 'investigate as required'.

Householders can be fined up to £5,000 if they refuse entry or
'obstruct' an official.

Shadow Communities Secretary Eric Pickles said: 'Day by day under
Labour, the rights and liberties of law-abiding citizens are being
eroded.'

<http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1036561/Now-1-000-laws-let-state-home.html>


William Black

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Jul 23, 2008, 6:14:01 AM7/23/08
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"D. Spencer Hines" <pan...@excelsior.com> wrote in message
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> Yes...
>
> Appalling!

Flirting with Nazis again David...

If you lie down with dogs you get up with fleas.

I could be posting 'Proven anti-Semite David Hines, a retired US navy
officer is now making common cause with well known proponents of Fascism in
the UK'.

It's painfully obvious that you're pig ignorant of British politics and
every time you open your potato trap you make a complete fool of yourself
and leave yourself open to accusations of consorting with Nazis.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.


Dr Quite

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Jul 23, 2008, 6:31:49 AM7/23/08
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"William Black" <willia...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "D. Spencer Hines" <pan...@excelsior.com> wrote in message
> news:3WBhk.355$AB3....@eagle.america.net...
>> Yes...
>>
>> Appalling!
>
> Flirting with Nazis again David...
>
> If you lie down with dogs you get up with fleas.
>
> I could be posting 'Proven anti-Semite David Hines, a retired US navy
> officer is now making common cause with well known proponents of Fascism
> in
> the UK'.
>
> It's painfully obvious that you're pig ignorant of British politics and
> every time you open your potato trap you make a complete fool of yourself
> and leave yourself open to accusations of consorting with Nazis.

It's equally obvious you're a twit who can't address the point.


William Black

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Jul 23, 2008, 6:47:21 AM7/23/08
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"Dr Quite" <qu...@quite.com> wrote in message
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Lack of content noted.

Where is Vince anyway?

D. Spencer Hines

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Jul 23, 2008, 3:08:10 PM7/23/08
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Yes...

Appalling!

The European Socialist Nanny State in Britain Marches On...

Just the sort of regime Barack Obama and his coterie of Left-Wing Loonies
want to saddle the United States with.

Creeping, Coddling & Oozing...

But so many Brits are drinking the Kool Aid and don't see how their freedoms
are slipping away.

Tiglath

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Jul 23, 2008, 3:32:15 PM7/23/08
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On Jul 23, 4:24 am, "D. Spencer Hines" <pant...@excelsior.com> wrote:
> Yes...
>
> Appalling!
>
> The European Socialist Nanny State in Britain Marches On...
>
> Just the sort of regime Barack Obama and his coterie of Left-Wing Loonies
> want to saddle the United States with.

When did he say he wants to repeal the Second Amendment?

Videte infra.


> --
> DSH
> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
> Vires et Honor
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> The march of the Big Brother state under Labour was highlighted last
> night as it was revealed that there are now 1,043 laws that give the
> authorities the power to enter a home or business.
>
> Nearly half have been introduced since Labour came to power 11 years
> ago. They include the right to:
>
> • Invade your home to see if your pot plants have pests or do not have
> a 'plant passport' (Plant Health England Order 2005).
>

Understandable you aversion to pests checks.

> • Survey your home and garden to see if your hedge is too high (Anti-
> Social Behaviour Act 2003).
>

Low hedges facilitate borrowing a cup of sugar and checking babes int
the window.


> • Check that accommodation given to asylum seekers is not being lived
> in by non-asylum seekers (Immigration and Asylum Act 1999).
>

You should embrace this one, having earned your place in the asylum.


> • Raid a house to check if unlicensed gambling is taking place
> (Gambling Act 2005 Inspection Regulations 2007).
>

Keep your Bingo!'s to yourself.


> • Seize fridges without the correct energy rating (Energy Information
> Household Refrigerators and Freezers Regulations 2004).
>

Don't get a fridge that attracts heat.


> The rise in clipboard-wielding state inspectors flies in the face of
> repeated pledges by Ministers to curb the power of bureaucrats.
>

They are just bored bean counters dropping in for a cuppa.

> The full extent of the state's 'powers of entry' is revealed in
> documents slipped out quietly by the Government last week.
>

Powers of entry should make you happy.

It's amazing how this man who is all for the Patriot Acts that let
Republicans intrude into the privacy of Americans
is worried about the privacy of Brits. Hypocrite


Ed Stasiak

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Jul 23, 2008, 6:15:27 PM7/23/08
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> Tiglath
>> D. Spencer Hines

>>
>> Just the sort of regime Barack Obama and his coterie of Left-Wing Loonies
>> want to saddle the United States with.
>
> When did he say he wants to repeal the Second Amendment?

Of course, he's never come right out and said it;

http://www.ontheissues.org/domestic/Barack_Obama_Gun_Control.htm


J A

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Jul 23, 2008, 8:30:05 PM7/23/08
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"D. Spencer Hines" <pan...@excelsior.com> wrote in message
news:3WBhk.355$AB3....@eagle.america.net...
> Yes...
>
> Appalling!
>
> The European Socialist Nanny State in Britain Marches On...
>
> Just the sort of regime Barack Obama and his coterie of Left-Wing Loonies
> want to saddle the United States with.

In the US, anybody is subject to having their door knocked down and a bunch
of heavily armed police invading their home.

If an innocent startled home owner defends his home thinking it's a criminal
home invasion, and shoots somebody, and then survives, he'll probably lose
everything he has trying to defend himself against phony evidence created by
the police to protect and justify themselves.

The "drug war" is the usual excuse. It's expensive in tax money for
supporting bloated self perpetuating police buracracies, ineffective in
combatting drug use (as evidenced by a thriving trade and decreasing drug
prices over recent
decades), expensive in maintaining large numbers of often non-violent
offenders in prisons, and along with the phonied up "war on terror", is
corrosive of civil liberties.

By the way, alcohol is just as destructive a drug, and in some cases more
destructive, than the other illegal drugs being "warred" on.

abelard

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Jul 25, 2008, 7:27:59 AM7/25/08
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On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:30:05 -0700, "J A" <a...@re.com> wrote:

>By the way, alcohol is just as destructive a drug, and in some cases more
>destructive, than the other illegal drugs being "warred" on.

then you'll be glad to know that in some states parents can
be imprisoned for allowing their children (under 18!) to party
at their home with alcohol available

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J A

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Jul 25, 2008, 7:22:34 PM7/25/08
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"abelard" <abel...@abelard.org> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:30:05 -0700, "J A" <a...@re.com> wrote:
>
>>By the way, alcohol is just as destructive a drug, and in some cases more
>>destructive, than the other illegal drugs being "warred" on.

> then you'll be glad to know that in some states parents can
> be imprisoned for allowing their children (under 18!) to party
> at their home with alcohol available

Abe Lard at his most inane.

D. Spencer Hines

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Oct 5, 2008, 4:12:35 AM10/5/08
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Yes...

Creeping Big Brotherism...

In Britain.


--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

"johannes" <jo...@sizefit4356533664ter.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> William Black wrote:
>>
>> "johannes" <jo...@sizefit4356533664ter.com> wrote in message
>> news:48E74748...@sizefit4356533664ter.com...
>> >
>> >
>> > Fred wrote:
>> >>
>> > [...]
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Apparently over one new law a day has been introduced by this
>> >> peoples
>> >> government. It's quite likely that we all break at least one law
>> >> every
>> >> day without realising it. Such has been the proliferation of new
>> >> laws
>> >> under this shambles of a government.
>> >
>> > What else can they produce? It's their job description: To
>> > produce laws.
>> > Like everyone else, they probably have to meet a volume target...
>>
>> The point that they're deliberately obscuring is that, with one or
>> two
>> exceptions, they can't actually knock your door down without a
>> warrant
>> signed by the appropriate authority, which is not some
>> unaccountable guy in
>> a suit sitting in a government office.
>>
>> It's either a very senior politician, or a cop at a level where
>> political
>> scrutiny is horribly intense or a senior official in one of the
>> intelligence
>> agencies.
>>
>> The two exceptions seem to be the Gas Company, if people smell
>> gas, and
>> the customs people (I can't remember what they're called officially
>> this
>> week) who are dreadfully careful not to kick anyone's door down
>> without very
>> good cause...
>
> "Who do you think you are...?". The police warrant is only required
> if there
> is some suspected criminal activity. The council can enter for
> numerous
> suspected domestic reasons.
>
> BTW, I heard on the radio that they will soon log every email and
> every web
> surf of every citizen on GCHQ. This should be in a Sunday newspaper
> today.
> They no longer need to break into your home...


Don Ocean

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Oct 5, 2008, 4:32:10 AM10/5/08
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D. Spencer Hines wrote:
> Yes...
>
> Creeping Big Brotherism...

Big deal.. It is Galloping in America. Gods name is Michael Chertoff and
his throne is called homeland Security. The FBI, NSA and CIA report to
him on Bended Knee. Of course Mr Chertoff is a dual nationality Jew with
a Home in Israel. GW Bush calls him daily.

>
> In Britain.

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