On Topic/On Charter: Naval reference book questions
Jeff Crowell
Apologies in advance to all for posting on-charter....
A kind soul gifted me with two very enjoyable books at
yuletide: Norman Friedman's U.S. Destroyers: An Illustrated
Design History and a companion volume, U.S. Battleships:
An Illustrated Design History.
Marvelous books! Dripping with excellently detailed photos
and Useful Information. I even found the place where it
says that the Fletcher class destroyers had a larger turning
circle than the New Jersey-class BBs... Andre Lieven, eat your
heart out!
So, having it in mind to further improve my ship reference
'brary, what other titles should I consider? The Friedman
volume on cruisers looks most interesting, though my
question is not limited to that author.
What else?
Jeff
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have to be paranoid for?
Peter Skelton
<jeff.crow...@hp.com> wrote:
>Hello, all, and Happy New year!
>
>Apologies in advance to all for posting on-charter....
>
>A kind soul gifted me with two very enjoyable books at
>yuletide: Norman Friedman's U.S. Destroyers: An Illustrated
>Design History and a companion volume, U.S. Battleships:
>An Illustrated Design History.
>
>Marvelous books! Dripping with excellently detailed photos
>and Useful Information. I even found the place where it
>says that the Fletcher class destroyers had a larger turning
>circle than the New Jersey-class BBs... Andre Lieven, eat your
>heart out!
>
>So, having it in mind to further improve my ship reference
>'brary, what other titles should I consider? The Friedman
>volume on cruisers looks most interesting, though my
>question is not limited to that author.
>
>What else?
>
British Battleships of World War Two: The Development and
Technical History of the Royal Navy's Battleships and
Battlecruisers from 1911 to 1946. You'll get a lot of insight
into what goes into a BB & why from this one, as well as good
descritions & ship histories.
R&R wrot a lot of good history and some for the popular market.
Check the number of pages before you buy.
(I stumbled accross Friedman's British destroyers when looking up
the title, cost me $55. Last time I do you a favour.)
Peter Skelton
Jack Linthicum
I have one of those Edward R. Hamilton catalogs with all the "bargain
books". One is intriguing:
719451X United States Naval Vessels: The official United States Navy
Reference Manual Prepared by the Division of Naval Intelligence 1
September 1945. Hundreds of photographs and cross-sectional drawings
depict in graphic detail the WWII ships and craft of the U.S. Navy,
specifications, their armament and propulsion, class, and a brief
biography of service during the war and after.
Hardbound.
Fully illustrated.
Published by Schiffer
Size(inches) 8½ x 11
Item # 719451X
ISBN 0764300903
Current Pub at $75.00 Your Price $54.95
vaughn
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> So, having it in mind to further improve my ship reference
> 'brary, what other titles should I consider? The Friedman
> volume on cruisers looks most interesting, though my
> question is not limited to that author.
>
wouldn't sell my 1917 copy for any price, but I see one here:
http://www.antiqbook.com/boox/bookbs/049706.shtml for $30.00. It is not as
technical as other books, but is covers a wide range of ship types and time. I
particularly love it because it covers a lot of what Navy life was like back
then. Some of the characters pictured on the ships looked like desperados.
Vaughn
Mark Borgerson
jeff.crow...@hp.com says...
> Hello, all, and Happy New year!
>
> Apologies in advance to all for posting on-charter....
>
> A kind soul gifted me with two very enjoyable books at
> yuletide: Norman Friedman's U.S. Destroyers: An Illustrated
> Design History and a companion volume, U.S. Battleships:
> An Illustrated Design History.
>
> Marvelous books! Dripping with excellently detailed photos
> and Useful Information. I even found the place where it
> says that the Fletcher class destroyers had a larger turning
> circle than the New Jersey-class BBs... Andre Lieven, eat your
> heart out!
>
> So, having it in mind to further improve my ship reference
> 'brary, what other titles should I consider? The Friedman
> volume on cruisers looks most interesting, though my
> question is not limited to that author.
>
> What else?
>
"The American Sailing Navy" by Howard I. Chapelle. $60
at Amazon.
Mark Borgerson
Jack Linthicum
Warships of the World to 1900 (Paperback)
Lincoln P. Paine (Author)
Price: $16.95 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over
$25.
If you want to examine it before buying it is available on googlebooks
dott.Piergiorgio
> Hello, all, and Happy New year!
>
> Apologies in advance to all for posting on-charter....
I prefer to avoid apologies; whose should apologize are all these whose
squander time & bandwith in various rants, political or otherwise.
> A kind soul gifted me with two very enjoyable books at
> yuletide: Norman Friedman's U.S. Destroyers: An Illustrated
> Design History and a companion volume, U.S. Battleships:
> An Illustrated Design History.
a *really* kind soul indeed....
Side note, I have the pleasure of noticing your term for the festive
period, and I don't hide that I was pleased....
> Marvelous books! Dripping with excellently detailed photos
> and Useful Information. I even found the place where it
> says that the Fletcher class destroyers had a larger turning
> circle than the New Jersey-class BBs... Andre Lieven, eat your
> heart out!
>
> So, having it in mind to further improve my ship reference
> 'brary, what other titles should I consider? The Friedman
> volume on cruisers looks most interesting, though my
> question is not limited to that author.
> What else?
Well, Mr. Friedman has written wolumes about the other types of US
warships, and there's a three-volume work on WWII-built BB by Garzke and
Dulin, and also, for the German Navies, the definitive reference, albeit
a bit sketchy, by Herr Groener, German Warship, 1815-1945. And there's
of course the five Conway's on every warship built by every navy from
1860s to the end of the XXth century; last but not least, the Lacroix &
wells monograph on Japanese Cruisers, a reference so definite & detailed
that even myself whose can be considered definitively a salted Naval
Historian, don't have finished to read, less so digested.
the only defect of these heavyweight volumes is their price, averaging
$80-100, and this is why I have written *really* kind soul above, but,
as you have constated, they worth every cent, nay, mils of their price.
Best regards from Italy,
Dott. Piergiorgio.
dott.Piergiorgio
Some of the characters pictured on the ships looked like desperados.
"real old salts should be bearded" ;)
Chris
> What else?
I would suggest the D.K. Brown pentology on ship design in the Royal
Navy: _Before the Ironclad_, _Warrior to Dreadnought_, _The Grand
Fleet_, _Nelson to Vanguard_, and _Rebuilding the Royal Navy_. I would
suggest getting them all because he does tend to assume that you've
read the previous works in later books.
Chris Manteuffel
tankfixer
>
> Apologies in advance to all for posting on-charter....
>
> A kind soul gifted me with two very enjoyable books at
> yuletide: Norman Friedman's U.S. Destroyers: An Illustrated
> Design History and a companion volume, U.S. Battleships:
> An Illustrated Design History.
>
> Marvelous books! Dripping with excellently detailed photos
> and Useful Information. I even found the place where it
> says that the Fletcher class destroyers had a larger turning
> circle than the New Jersey-class BBs... Andre Lieven, eat your
> heart out!
>
> So, having it in mind to further improve my ship reference
> 'brary, what other titles should I consider? The Friedman
> volume on cruisers looks most interesting, though my
> question is not limited to that author.
>
I would recomend the Cruiser volumn for sure..
guy
Basically anything by:-
(for technical stuff)
DK Brown
Raven and Roberts
Andrew Lambert
Norman Friedman
John Campbell
(for operational stuff)
NAM Rodger
John Campbell
There are many I have missed of course but you can pretty much
guarantee good stuff from any of the above.
Oh, and for a 'feel' of steam era warships try 'The Battleship Era' by
Peter Padfield.
cheers
Guy
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Ditto sister volume on Cruisers
Guy
guy
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Or pretty much anything by Andrew Lambert
Guy