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Arved Sandstrom
May 8, 2013, 5:13:08 PM5/8/13
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Google on "marine corps returning roots", pick articles from last few
years, you get the idea.
This one is a good example:
https://www.mca-marines.org/gazette/article/amphibious-operations-and-aviation-fires
AHS
years, you get the idea.
This one is a good example:
https://www.mca-marines.org/gazette/article/amphibious-operations-and-aviation-fires
AHS
Derek Lyons
May 9, 2013, 12:33:59 PM5/9/13
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[amphibious|expeditionary] roots" every few years for about as long as
I've been paying attention... (Circa 30+ years now.)
D.
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Arved Sandstrom
May 9, 2013, 4:56:07 PM5/9/13
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On 05/09/2013 01:33 PM, Derek Lyons wrote:
> Arved Sandstrom <asand...@eastlink.ca> wrote:
>
>> Google on "marine corps returning roots", pick articles from last few
>> years, you get the idea.
>>
>> This one is a good example:
>>
>> https://www.mca-marines.org/gazette/article/amphibious-operations-and-aviation-fires
>
> Seems to me that the USMC has been "returning to it's
> [amphibious|expeditionary] roots" every few years for about as long as
> I've been paying attention... (Circa 30+ years now.)
>
> D.
>
Well, I dunno. The Corps continually makes noises about staying true to
> Arved Sandstrom <asand...@eastlink.ca> wrote:
>
>> Google on "marine corps returning roots", pick articles from last few
>> years, you get the idea.
>>
>> This one is a good example:
>>
>> https://www.mca-marines.org/gazette/article/amphibious-operations-and-aviation-fires
>
> Seems to me that the USMC has been "returning to it's
> [amphibious|expeditionary] roots" every few years for about as long as
> I've been paying attention... (Circa 30+ years now.)
>
> D.
>
amphibious|expeditionary roots, but prior to this past 10 years it
hasn't had amphib training beat down this bad since before WW2 probably
(Korea and Vietnam both saw much more amphib ops than SWA2 ever did).
I wouldn't be surprised if there's a substantial percentage of FMF
Marines with less than 10 years in that have never been on a gator.
AHS
Paul F Austin
May 9, 2013, 5:29:17 PM5/9/13
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ten years, ones not directly applicable to the war we had. When I took a
course in Military Theory, Dr Jon House who that that time taught at the
Army C&GS school commented that for instance AAA units had severely
neglected their training syllabus in favor of serving as convoy guards
in Iraq.
Paul
Derek Lyons
May 9, 2013, 7:22:39 PM5/9/13
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nuclear cruise missiles were accidentally transported.
We'll be decades in recovering from this one, too many people in too
many branches working 'out of rate' for too long.
dott.Piergiorgio
May 10, 2013, 8:52:02 AM5/10/13
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Il 10/05/2013 01:22, Derek Lyons ha scritto:
> Such neglect was also implicated in the 2007 incident where the
> nuclear cruise missiles were accidentally transported.
>
> We'll be decades in recovering from this one, too many people in too
> many branches working 'out of rate' for too long.
well, Russia has a huge & unprecedented collapse of .mil quality, but
> Such neglect was also implicated in the 2007 incident where the
> nuclear cruise missiles were accidentally transported.
>
> We'll be decades in recovering from this one, too many people in too
> many branches working 'out of rate' for too long.
manages to kept safe his nuclear deterrent... (and is an important
lession in political-military matters: the outcome of a cold war differ
from a fought one because the losing side has intact his manpower but
can't kept his .mil budget, and measures for securing at least the most
destructive weaponry must be taken)
Best regards from Italy,
dott. Piergiorgio.
Joe Osman
May 15, 2013, 9:15:15 PM5/15/13
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Australia is really getting into the amphibious thing and Marines have already started a permanent presence there. Teaching a subject is always a good way improve your own knowledge. Some students ask very good questions and Australian military journals have had quite a few articles discussing the amphibious art. All in all it's a good situation for the Corps.
Joe
Joe
Arved Sandstrom
May 16, 2013, 6:05:46 PM5/16/13
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On 05/15/2013 10:15 PM, Joe Osman wrote:
> Australia is really getting into the amphibious thing and Marines have already started a permanent presence there. Teaching a subject is always a good way improve your own knowledge. Some students ask very good questions and Australian military journals have had quite a few articles discussing the amphibious art. All in all it's a good situation for the Corps.
>
> Joe
>
The interesting problem the Aussies have is simply they've not got
> Australia is really getting into the amphibious thing and Marines have already started a permanent presence there. Teaching a subject is always a good way improve your own knowledge. Some students ask very good questions and Australian military journals have had quite a few articles discussing the amphibious art. All in all it's a good situation for the Corps.
>
> Joe
>
enough regular or reserve ADF personnel to have a credible amphibious
force. They'd be hard pressed to dual purpose a few infantry battalions
to form the nuclei of a couple of MEU-sized units. The only hostile
shore missions would be quick and very localized.
I'm thinking that an amphibious capability like what they are developing
might be more useful for certain ops-short-of-war and for landings on
the Australian coast in the event of invasion.
AHS
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