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David Benavides  
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 More options May 9 2000, 3:00 am
Newsgroups: sci.med.vision
From: "David Benavides" <dave1...@swbell.net>
Date: 2000/05/09
Subject: The elusive "jelly spot": please help.
I am a myopic astigmatic (-6.5 in one eye, -6.75 in the other) who has been
experiencing a recurring problem with what my optometrist identified as
"jelly-spots"--essentially, opaque "bumps" on the surface of the contact
lens, which appear, empirically, to be almost a chemical change in the lens
itself.  They are not removable by cleaning or enzymatic treatment of the
lens.  When I queried my Dr. as to what caused the problem, he merely
shrugged and said "no one knows", which is, needless to say, not very
helpful.

These "bumps" are problematic in that they eventually irritate my eyelid to
the point of conjunctivitis, and the lens begins to "ride" up and down with
my eyelid when I blink.

I wear DuraSoft 3 optifit toric lenses, and this problem has happened three
times, already, though on the previous two occasions, the lenses were of
different manufacture, so I assume that it is not a defect in the lens
itself, but rather something in my behavior that is causing the problem.

I have used the CibaVision AO Sept family of cleaning products, and Allergen
UltraZyme enzymatic treatment successfully for 8 years or so; I follow the
cleaning regimine as faithfully as is reasonably possible; and I have been
wearing contact lenses for 13 years, so I am no stranger to their proper
care.  However, I have seen the wearable life of my contact lenses go from
over a year, to a scant four months, due to this problem.

Does anyone out there have any recommendations?  Am I doing something wrong?
Is there perhaps a different lens I should try, or different cleaning
products I should use?  I would appreciate any suggestions.


 
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drfrank21  
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 More options May 9 2000, 3:00 am
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From: drfran...@my-deja.com
Date: 2000/05/09
Subject: Re: The elusive "jelly spot": please help.
In article <jwZR4.5$4y5...@news.swbell.net>,
  "David Benavides" <dave1...@swbell.net> wrote:

I learned that the "jelly bumps" are of a lipid composition; once on
the lens removing them is impossible. Some pateints are just more prone
to be this type of depositor. I like to switch patients to a planned
replacement ( 1-2 mo replacement cycle); they are available in torics
as well. Baring that, the CSI or a Cooper lens seems to be pretty good
in the jelly bump arena.

frank

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Mike Tyner  
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 More options May 9 2000, 3:00 am
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From: "Mike Tyner" <mty...@mindspring.com>
Date: 2000/05/09
Subject: Re: The elusive "jelly spot": please help.
"Nobody knows why" is a pretty poor answer.

JB's are conglomerates of lipid and protein that embed
themselves into the lens itself - you can actually shave them
off with baking soda sprinkled on with daily cleaner (makes
them more comfortable) but you can't dig out the "root" and
they will grow back.

These happen characteristically when there is a special
affinity between a particular lens material and YOUR tear
solutes. Another person may not have the same problem
with your WJ D3 lenses, and your results may vary (seasonal
pollen, environment, metabolism) but you will typically continue
to have the same problem as long as you use the same material.
Since you can't change your tears, the obvious solution is
to get away from the material you're using. There are
four chemical categories of lens material defined for
this reason.

When your lenses start to ride up and down you may be
developing another problem, and your doctor should have
everted your lids to look for a lumpy allergic condition called
GPC. This problem isn't common with frequent lens replacement.

-MT

"David Benavides" <dave1...@swbell.net> wrote in message

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WhoWhatWhere  
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 More options May 12 2000, 3:00 am
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From: "WhoWhatWhere" <Dont@Bother2Reply>
Date: 2000/05/12
Subject: Re: The elusive "jelly spot": please help.
I've seen BIG jellybumps form on new disposable lenses, only to be scraped
off by fingernail, and back again just as big after the very next days
wear!!

They're a curse! The cure is often difficult.

Your tear chemistry is the key culprit.
Try a different brand of lens, try different cleaners.

It's been claimed that Miraflow, Instacare Starting solution (high in salt
and alcohol)(both Ciba products) may help to cut these spots down, but once
they have formed you should not expect to eliminate them.

New lenses (of a different material), new cleaners and crossed fingers are
called for. Good luck.


 
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