De Maxwell wrote in message ... >If you would take a look back into the archives you would find out just how >intelligent most of these MTs (women and men) actually are (in THIS >newsgroup)!!!!! My goal is to someday be as intelligent as they are!!! I >envy the way they make up new medical words and phrases to get their point >across and to joke around and have fun. The INTELLIGENT & PROFESSIONAL way >to teach us so-called newbies is to direct us in the correct direction so we >can learn to use reference books, the net and other sources to find our own >answers!!!!! That is exactly what the MTs in this group does! Thanks to >you all who do! :)
>Everyone makes typos, but to repeat the same typo more than once in a >posting is preposterous!!!! Anything can cause typos, such as your mood, >temperament, kids in the same room, doing multi-tasks on the computer, >thinking about too many things at one time, trying to answer the questions >the family is throwing at you while you are typing, your fingers just >running away and doing what they want on the keyboard, getting use to a new >keyboard (heavy to soft touch), and hitting a couple of keys at one time and >you just don't realize that you did, etc., etc.! But, to repeat the same >typo over and over, obviously that is the way you think that word(s) should >be spelled.
>Everyone from time to time lets their dialect come through in their >typing!!!! I personally cry from laughing so hard, during these posts! I >can barely read them and to understand them I have to read them several >times. <G> Let alone trying to imagine that person speaking to me out loud, >I would have the most idiotic look on my face for sure and on top of that >asking them to repeat over and over until I understood.
>So, do not insult their intelligence by trying to come to their level, they >will beat you everytime!!! They are very professional when they have to be, >but in this newsgroup it is not called for ALL of the time! Unless you work >with them personally and know them personally, NO ONE has the right to say >if they are professional or not! There is a time to be professional and >there is a time to be what you want to be, and that is the choice of the >person themself and no one else!
>I may not like or agree with all the discussions in here or the view points >of everyone, but I will never say that they are stupid, dumb, ignorant nor >unprofessional!! They have to be doing something right, because from my >understanding most of them have be doing medical transcription for 20+ years >and that speaks for itself!!!!!!!!
>De
>TNminihors wrote in message ><1998082411471400.HAA02...@ladder03.news.aol.com>... >>>Oh, before you get two excited about what you think are usage errors >above, >>>the >>>no, right and two were deliberate.
>>Actually it would take a *hole* lot more than anything here *too* get me >>excited. I don't give *me* asshole if I am correct or *knot* when I'm >*knot* >>working. I come *hear* just *too* view the stupidity, big difference in >>stupidity and ignorance.
>>Rae, I hate to tell you this but I've seen many, many errors in your posts >over >>time. How am I to know whether they are *simple mistakes* or *ignorance* >>seeing I don't know you?
>>Only thing I know is I don't see *stupidity* posted on "Mary's Board".
>>By the way, what do y'all call doctors who not only slaughter the English >>language, but use the wrong words as well?? Are they *ignorant*? Tell >one of >>them that and let me know what happens.
>>I think y'all *mite* be a bunch of lonely *ladies* with nothing better to >do >>with your spare time than display your *studpidity*.
>>Ooops, sorry I called y'all ladies, so don't get excited.
>>By the way, Su, I'm going to tell our mutual friends in Memphis that you >were >>very, very naughty and called me a *whore*. I wish I had the bod and age >for >>it. I'd trade my computer for the oldest trade in the world in a >heartbeat!
>>"The Tennessee mini-whore" and that's only wishful thinking!
> If you would take a look back into the archives you would find out just how > intelligent most of these MTs (women and men) actually are (in THIS > newsgroup)!!!!! My goal is to someday be as intelligent as they are!!! I > envy the way they make up new medical words and phrases to get their point > across and to joke around and have fun. The INTELLIGENT & PROFESSIONAL way > to teach us so-called newbies is to direct us in the correct direction so we > can learn to use reference books, the net and other sources to find our own > answers!!!!! That is exactly what the MTs in this group does! Thanks to > you all who do! :)
Speaking of the archives, can someone tell me how to get into them. There are several posts I had saved but somehow I lost them.
>Hope that clears that up. Perhaps the "errors" you have "found" in my posts >weren't all actually errors?
How interesting. The *errors* in your postings are not *really* errors. Only others make *errors*. That just about does it *don't* it?>>
Me thinks you missed the point. I said weren't all errors. Not saying I don't make any. However, my response was to your stating it should be A MT not AN MT, upon which I cited the AAMT BOS to support what I understood you to say was an error was, indeed, correct.
Reminds me of some work I did for a podiatry office. I got a note saying good job but there were "corrections" all over it. Only trouble was the OM who made the "corrections" was not a medical transcriptionist. What she considered errors were actually correctly expressed per numerous of my references.
My post never stated I don't make errors. I know I do often in posts, probably a combination of missing words due to haste, no text expander, it often being after midnight, and my brain going faster than my fingers. My point was what you may have considered errors obviously always have not been.
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> Speaking of the archives, can someone tell me how to get into them. > There are several posts I had saved but somehow I lost them.
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TNminihors wrote: > Exactly my point. I don't think you are *ignorant* because you > make mistakes. I've never before called you or anyone else on an > error that was obvious to me. Shouldn't others receive the same > consideration?
This sounds an awful lot to me like those people who don't know the difference between q.d. and q.i.d. and who yell at us when we tell them that if they have to ask, they don't have the knowledge to do this work by saying, "you were new once too...."
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> > If you would take a look back into the archives you would find out just how > > intelligent most of these MTs (women and men) actually are (in THIS > > newsgroup)!!!!! My goal is to someday be as intelligent as they are!!! I > > envy the way they make up new medical words and phrases to get their point > > across and to joke around and have fun. The INTELLIGENT & PROFESSIONAL way > > to teach us so-called newbies is to direct us in the correct direction so we > > can learn to use reference books, the net and other sources to find our own > > answers!!!!! That is exactly what the MTs in this group does! Thanks to > > you all who do! :)
> Speaking of the archives, can someone tell me how to get into them. > There are several posts I had saved but somehow I lost them.
>My post never stated I don't make errors. I know I do often in posts, >probably >a combination of missing words due to haste, no text expander, it often being >after midnight, and my brain going faster than my fingers. My point was what >you may have considered errors obviously always have not been.
>Rae Morrill in Maine >"Ya can't get theyuh from heeah"
Exactly my point. I don't think you are *ignorant* because you make mistakes. I've never before called you or anyone else on an error that was obvious to me. Shouldn't others receive the same consideration?
tnminih...@aol.com (TNminihors) wrote: >By the way, my screen name stands for *Tennessee Mini-Hors d'oeuvre* not >*Tennessee Mini-Whore*. Want to guess what that means to me? <g>
Darn. I thought it was for "minihorse." Thought you raised them or something.
Peggy
Reply to digitalcmt (at) you-know-where (dot) com. It's a puzzle, I know, but all the clues are in this post.
> If you would take a look back into the archives you would find out just how > intelligent most of these MTs (women and men) actually are (in THIS > newsgroup)!!!!! My goal is to someday be as intelligent as they are!!! I > envy the way they make up new medical words and phrases to get their point > across and to joke around and have fun. The INTELLIGENT & PROFESSIONAL way > to teach us so-called newbies is to direct us in the correct direction so we > can learn to use reference books, the net and other sources to find our own > answers!!!!! That is exactly what the MTs in this group does! Thanks to > you all who do! :)
> Everyone makes typos, but to repeat the same typo more than once in a > posting is preposterous!!!! Anything can cause typos, such as your mood, > temperament, kids in the same room, doing multi-tasks on the computer, > thinking about too many things at one time, trying to answer the questions > the family is throwing at you while you are typing, your fingers just > running away and doing what they want on the keyboard, getting use to a new > keyboard (heavy to soft touch), and hitting a couple of keys at one time and > you just don't realize that you did, etc., etc.! But, to repeat the same > typo over and over, obviously that is the way you think that word(s) should > be spelled.
> Everyone from time to time lets their dialect come through in their > typing!!!! I personally cry from laughing so hard, during these posts! I > can barely read them and to understand them I have to read them several > times. <G> Let alone trying to imagine that person speaking to me out loud, > I would have the most idiotic look on my face for sure and on top of that > asking them to repeat over and over until I understood.
> So, do not insult their intelligence by trying to come to their level, they > will beat you everytime!!! They are very professional when they have to be, > but in this newsgroup it is not called for ALL of the time! Unless you work > with them personally and know them personally, NO ONE has the right to say > if they are professional or not! There is a time to be professional and > there is a time to be what you want to be, and that is the choice of the > person themself and no one else!
> I may not like or agree with all the discussions in here or the view points > of everyone, but I will never say that they are stupid, dumb, ignorant nor > unprofessional!! They have to be doing something right, because from my > understanding most of them have be doing medical transcription for 20+ years > and that speaks for itself!!!!!!!!
> De
> TNminihors wrote in message > <1998082411471400.HAA02...@ladder03.news.aol.com>... > >>Oh, before you get two excited about what you think are usage errors > above, > >>the > >>no, right and two were deliberate.
> >Actually it would take a *hole* lot more than anything here *too* get me > >excited. I don't give *me* asshole if I am correct or *knot* when I'm > *knot* > >working. I come *hear* just *too* view the stupidity, big difference in > >stupidity and ignorance.
> >Rae, I hate to tell you this but I've seen many, many errors in your posts > over > >time. How am I to know whether they are *simple mistakes* or *ignorance* > >seeing I don't know you?
> >Only thing I know is I don't see *stupidity* posted on "Mary's Board".
> >By the way, what do y'all call doctors who not only slaughter the English > >language, but use the wrong words as well?? Are they *ignorant*? Tell > one of > >them that and let me know what happens.
> >I think y'all *mite* be a bunch of lonely *ladies* with nothing better to > do > >with your spare time than display your *studpidity*.
> >Ooops, sorry I called y'all ladies, so don't get excited.
> >By the way, Su, I'm going to tell our mutual friends in Memphis that you > were > >very, very naughty and called me a *whore*. I wish I had the bod and age > for > >it. I'd trade my computer for the oldest trade in the world in a > heartbeat!
> >"The Tennessee mini-whore" and that's only wishful thinking!
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>This sounds an awful lot to me like those people who don't know the >difference between q.d. and q.i.d. and who yell at us when we tell them >that if they have to ask, they don't have the knowledge to do this work >by saying, "you were new once too...."
I most certainly agree that anyone who has to ask the meaning of b.i.d./t.i.d./q.i.d. and doesn't know Dorland from Frankenstein is not qualified for MT. I just don't feel it is up to me to point this out to them. They'll find out soon enough if they're unfortunate enough to be hired. They'll also fall by the wayside about the first week when they find out the job only pays about 35 cents per hour.
As for the "you were new once too...." BINGO! I try to always remember that. I've been asked what q.i.d. (example) means and my answer is always the same....look it up in Dorland's and learn the meaning so next time you hear it you won't have to ask.. If they don't have Dorland's (or Stedman's), then BUY one. A carpenter wouldn't try to build a house without a hammer now would he? I might also caution them not to EVER write "quater in die" instead of q.i.d. I would NEVER point out someone's "ignorance" . I think doing that displays an inordinate lack of finesse.
As for mistakes made on this, or any other message board.....I notice them......I ignore them. I'll play word games with anyone but it isn't my favorite passtime. I read, and occasionally post, to this and other message boards. I do so to relax. I could not care less whether I make typos or gross errors in spelling, punctuation, word usage, etc. When doing something that is important to me, I DO care.
Rae looked up "a" MT or "an" MT and posted that according to AAMT, "an MT" was correct. I'll take her word for it, I don't care enough to look it up in AAMT. I learned during my *education* that it was "a" MT. If my employer indicates I am to write "an" MT, well, he signs the check so he can have it his way. Until then, it's "a" MT for me.
I am lacking neither in education nor in MT knowledge but then, WHO CARES?
>In article <ngkE1.1$VF2.6...@news.siscom.net>, > "De Maxwell" <db4...@dragonbbs.com> wrote: >> If you would take a look back into the archives you would find out just how >> intelligent most of these MTs (women and men) actually are (in THIS >> newsgroup)!!!!! My goal is to someday be as intelligent as they are!!! I >> envy the way they make up new medical words and phrases to get their point >> across and to joke around and have fun. The INTELLIGENT & PROFESSIONAL way >> to teach us so-called newbies is to direct us in the correct direction so >we >> can learn to use reference books, the net and other sources to find our own >> answers!!!!! That is exactly what the MTs in this group does! Thanks to >> you all who do! :)
>> Everyone makes typos, but to repeat the same typo more than once in a >> posting is preposterous!!!! Anything can cause typos, such as your mood, >> temperament, kids in the same room, doing multi-tasks on the computer, >> thinking about too many things at one time, trying to answer the questions >> the family is throwing at you while you are typing, your fingers just >> running away and doing what they want on the keyboard, getting use to a new >> keyboard (heavy to soft touch), and hitting a couple of keys at one time >and >> you just don't realize that you did, etc., etc.! But, to repeat the same >> typo over and over, obviously that is the way you think that word(s) should >> be spelled.
>> Everyone from time to time lets their dialect come through in their >> typing!!!! I personally cry from laughing so hard, during these posts! I >> can barely read them and to understand them I have to read them several >> times. <G> Let alone trying to imagine that person speaking to me out >loud, >> I would have the most idiotic look on my face for sure and on top of that >> asking them to repeat over and over until I understood.
>> So, do not insult their intelligence by trying to come to their level, they >> will beat you everytime!!! They are very professional when they have to >be, >> but in this newsgroup it is not called for ALL of the time! Unless you >work >> with them personally and know them personally, NO ONE has the right to say >> if they are professional or not! There is a time to be professional and >> there is a time to be what you want to be, and that is the choice of the >> person themself and no one else!
>> I may not like or agree with all the discussions in here or the view points >> of everyone, but I will never say that they are stupid, dumb, ignorant nor >> unprofessional!! They have to be doing something right, because from my >> understanding most of them have be doing medical transcription for 20+ >years >> and that speaks for itself!!!!!!!!
Curiosity.........why didn't someone pick this one apart?
Observation.......20+ years means NOTHING. Nor.......does my 30 years mean anything! The question is, can you do the job and if so, for how long? I say we'll all be obsolete in a couple more years. Hey, before anyone jumps on that, I don't care. I've already launched an alternative to my shrinking MT paycheck. It doesn't take much intelligence to see it coming. Look at what HMOs have done to the quality of MEDICAL CARE. The name of the game is the bottom line on the profit/loss. Does anyone remember when there USED to be court reporter transcriptionists?
tnminih...@aol.com (TNminihors) wrote: >Rae looked up "a" MT or "an" MT and posted that according to AAMT, "an MT" was >correct. I'll take her word for it, I don't care enough to look it up in AAMT. > I learned during my *education* that it was "a" MT. If my employer indicates >I am to write "an" MT, well, he signs the check so he can have it his way. >Until then, it's "a" MT for me. >I am lacking neither in education nor in MT knowledge but then, WHO CARES?
Uh, well, if you don't know that "an" goes before vowels and words which begin with a vowel sound ("em tee"), then I'd have to say that your education is lacking a little something.
This isn't something the AAMT cooked up. It's plain old English grammar. It's extremely *basic* stuff, too.
By the way, that "in" needs to go before the "neither."
Peggy
Reply to digitalcmt (at) you-know-where (dot) com. It's a puzzle, I know, but all the clues are in this post.
Face it, TN, you're (pardon the pun) beating a dead horse here. I vote we call this a DEAD ISSUE and move on. Some of us are picky and have an innate need to point out that public presentation is important; some of us are less picky (though I can't imagine why.... oh wait, that's perpetuating the debate, isn't it?). Perfection is a virtue only a few can claim and a state to which the rest can continue to aspire.
>>Rae looked up "a" MT or "an" MT and posted that according to AAMT, "an MT" was >>correct. I'll take her word for it, I don't care enough to look it up in AAMT. >> I learned during my *education* that it was "a" MT. If my employer indicates >>I am to write "an" MT, well, he signs the check so he can have it his way. >>Until then, it's "a" MT for me.
>>I am lacking neither in education nor in MT knowledge but then, WHO CARES?
>Uh, well, if you don't know that "an" goes before vowels and words >which begin with a vowel sound ("em tee"), then I'd have to say that >your education is lacking a little something.
>This isn't something the AAMT cooked up. It's plain old English >grammar. It's extremely *basic* stuff, too.
>By the way, that "in" needs to go before the "neither."
>Peggy
>Reply to digitalcmt (at) you-know-where (dot) com. It's a puzzle, I know,
I'll take her word for it, I don't care enough to look it up in AAMT.
> I learned during my *education* that it was "a" MT. If my employer indicates >I am to write "an" MT, well, he signs the check so he can have it his way. >Until then, it's "a" MT for me.
It is sad indeed when teachers teach it wrong. As Peggy says, this is not the AAMT rule, it is the English grammar rule. That is the reference I had, so that is what I quoted.
I believe that within reason you do what your client or boss wants. However, I certainly would put up a fight about doing it wrong and would make an attempt to prove I had it right, whether it was the above or wrong use of a word. I really would rather not work for people who have to be right no matter what is commonly accepted fact. As I'm not starving (by far), I can make that choice.
Rae Morrill in Maine "Ya can't get theyuh from heeah" _______________________________ Spam mailers WILL be reported to their respective postmasters and AOL TOSSPAM!
I know this post is old to most of you but it is not old to me, so I am going to respond ...:)
There are very few of us who can boast of all skills necessary for language. When someone does call attention to some one thing in a post, I don't look at it so much as .... .nitpicking, or lack of finesse.. I learn for it. In our profession, I believe those who have the skills and choose to share them are very special...besides sometimes someone can explain something and it clicks.. the light goes on..when it never did before.
>>Rae looked up "a" MT or "an" MT and posted that according to AAMT, "an MT" was >>correct. I'll take her word for it, I don't care enough to look it up in AAMT. >> I learned during my *education* that it was "a" MT. If my employer indicates >>I am to write "an" MT, well, he signs the check so he can have it his way. >>Until then, it's "a" MT for me.
>>I am lacking neither in education nor in MT knowledge but then, WHO CARES?
>Uh, well, if you don't know that "an" goes before vowels and words >which begin with a vowel sound ("em tee"), then I'd have to say that >your education is lacking a little something.
>This isn't something the AAMT cooked up. It's plain old English >grammar. It's extremely *basic* stuff, too.
>By the way, that "in" needs to go before the "neither."
>Peggy
>Reply to digitalcmt (at) you-know-where (dot) com. It's a puzzle, I know,
STscribe wrote in message <6s8mif$...@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com>... >I know this post is old to most of you but it is not old to me, so I am >going to respond ...:)
>There are very few of us who can boast of all skills necessary for language. >When someone does call attention to some one thing in a post, I don't look >at it so much as .... .nitpicking, or lack of finesse.. I learn for it. In >our profession, I believe those who have the skills and choose to share them >are very special...besides sometimes someone can explain something and it >clicks.. the light goes on..when it never did before.
>Iris
>nos...@mindspring.com wrote in message ><6rv24r$md...@samsara0.mindspring.com>... >>tnminih...@aol.com (TNminihors) wrote:
>>>Rae looked up "a" MT or "an" MT and posted that according to AAMT, "an MT" >was >>>correct. I'll take her word for it, I don't care enough to look it up in >AAMT. >>> I learned during my *education* that it was "a" MT. If my employer >indicates >>>I am to write "an" MT, well, he signs the check so he can have it his way. >>>Until then, it's "a" MT for me.
>>>I am lacking neither in education nor in MT knowledge but then, WHO CARES?
>>Uh, well, if you don't know that "an" goes before vowels and words >>which begin with a vowel sound ("em tee"), then I'd have to say that >>your education is lacking a little something.
>>This isn't something the AAMT cooked up. It's plain old English >>grammar. It's extremely *basic* stuff, too.
>>By the way, that "in" needs to go before the "neither."
>>Peggy
>>Reply to digitalcmt (at) you-know-where (dot) com. It's a puzzle, I know, >but all the clues are in this post.
><Y'all isn't a word either, ladies, but people in this rat hole say it >all the time.>
>Actually, Su, the word y'all is in recent-edition dictionaries. Take a >look for yourself. It should never be transcribed, but it is a word.
Sure, it's a word. It's not elegant English, but it's certainly a word. Technically, it's a contraction of the words 'you all,' which is why it makes me crazy when people type "ya'll," putting the apostrophe where it doesn't belong (I'll spare you the apostrophe rant, you've probably heard it before, and you probably feel the same way.)
It also should NEVER, EVER be used to refer to a single entity, except perhaps when speaking to a person suffering from Multiple Personality Disorder. It should be screamingly obvious that the phrase "you ALL" should only ever be used in the plural -- using 'y'all' to refer to an individual is a gold-plated, double-barreled guaranteed way to get yourself labeled as a Damnyankee, which is a THOUSAND times worse than just being a simple Yankee. (And I should know!)
There, is that nitpicky enough for y'all? <VEG>
Cici in Texas (Remove xspam from address to reply)
Y'all in my city is used to refer to one person or the entire wedding congregation. A guy from Texas told me years ago, that when addressing a single person, the greeter is basically wishing well or asking about "you all" (yourself, your friends and your family). Just saves time.
And if my kid says it one more time, I'm going to slap her. I hate it!!!
Cici in Texas wrote in message <6t7rl9$op...@news-2.news.gte.net>... >On Sun, 23 Aug 1998 19:04:45 -0500 (CDT), >speedy...@webtv.net wrote:
>>Su wrote:
>><Y'all isn't a word either, ladies, but people in this rat hole say it >>all the time.>
>>Actually, Su, the word y'all is in recent-edition dictionaries. Take a >>look for yourself. It should never be transcribed, but it is a word.
>Sure, it's a word. It's not elegant English, but it's >certainly a word. Technically, it's a contraction of the >words 'you all,' which is why it makes me crazy when people >type "ya'll," putting the apostrophe where it doesn't belong >(I'll spare you the apostrophe rant, you've probably heard >it before, and you probably feel the same way.)
>It also should NEVER, EVER be used to refer to a single >entity, except perhaps when speaking to a person suffering >from Multiple Personality Disorder. It should be >screamingly obvious that the phrase "you ALL" should only >ever be used in the plural -- using 'y'all' to refer to an >individual is a gold-plated, double-barreled guaranteed way >to get yourself labeled as a Damnyankee, which is a THOUSAND >times worse than just being a simple Yankee. (And I should >know!)
>There, is that nitpicky enough for y'all? <VEG>
>Cici in Texas >(Remove xspam from address to reply)
>Y'all in my city is used to refer to one person or the entire wedding >congregation. A guy from Texas told me years ago, that when addressing a >single person, the greeter is basically wishing well or asking about "you >all" (yourself, your friends and your family). Just saves time.
Same thing back home in North Carolina, but I always wondered why. Now I get it. Thanks!
On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 13:37:58 GMT, Su wrote: >Y'all in my city is used to refer to one person or the entire wedding >congregation. A guy from Texas told me years ago, that when addressing a >single person, the greeter is basically wishing well or asking about "you >all" (yourself, your friends and your family). Just saves time.
Well, in questions like "How y'all been doing?", that's right -- it's kinda like the old countrified question, "How's yer mom'n'em?"
>And if my kid says it one more time, I'm going to slap her. I hate it!!!
My Texas-born mother would understand how you feel -- I actually grew up in Ohio, and I'm just as likely to use "you guys," even when referring to a group that's entirely female. It drives her NUTS! (I'm *pretty* sure that's not _why_ I say it, though.)
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