I have read with interest the postings on Speed type, but don't think I have
seen anybody who used to use ST talking about it. Any input? Info? Happy
users? I know time is going to catch up to me soon, and I will be stuck here
with a day's work on my computer and no way to access it! which almost
happened today! Yikes.
Any info is greatly appreciated! Going off now to try and figure out how to
get this ole doggie up and running again. No, the hammer trick didn't work
last time, either!!
Jody
Does your new computer run Win98? If so, there is no reason why WP51/ST
shouldn't run on it. It runs on mine just fine and dandy...
--
I know God will not give me anything I can't handle.
I just wish that He didn't trust me so much. - Mother Teresa
Not on mine, probably because I refuse to work without my Stedman's
Electronic Dictionary. That's why I stay on my 7-year old trusty
workhorse (knocking on wood) instead of moving to the newer machine.
Liz
No, the new one has Win ME and it won't work on that. I got the new computer
because I might have to do work over the 'net, using foot pedals via sound
card, and that technology requires the speed and newer OS of the new
computer...but I'll be danged if I can force myself to work that slow! I can't
believe it...the new computer is a 1.3 GHZ!!!! and my old 166 Mhz can out-type
it. I can't believe how long it takes to sit there and wait for some things on
the newer one. Now, those of you who work w/ ST know what I mean...it has
nothing to do with how the system is set up or anything like that...DOS just
did it right. I have been told you can set the new one up with a separate
partition for DOS, but that would still not be a complete fix, as the foot
pedal stuff requires the other OS...so I keep waiting for something in Win that
gives us the speed of DOS.
Thanks. At least I know I am not alone in my search!
Jody
Have you looked at Ed Mendelson's site? There's information about getting 5.1
to work in ME there. Good luck.
PamP
http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/wpdos/>
I've never used Smartype, but I have just started using SpeedType, and I like
it pretty well so far. I was using abbreviate for Windows, but that won't let
you put formatting commands into your text, and SpeedType does allow that. The
abbreviations do pop up on the screen while I'm typing, but this is a feature I
haven't had before (used to use PRD, then abbreviate), so I'm not sure what use
I will make of it. It's also easier to go back and find a certain short form
in SpeedType than it is in abbreviate.
As Mike DeTuri pointed out here earlier, there is another program called
Shorthand, which seems to be exactly the same as SpeedType, and about 50 bucks
cheaper. You might go to their site and see if they have the features you
want. I think you can do a free download trial version. Happy hunting!
Gisele
If it is the SPEED that is the problem, maybe
you should bite the bullet and go with one of the
other expanders. I have used AutoCorrect, QuickCorrect,
As-U-Type and Shorthand and all of them perform at
least as fast has DOS-based expanders for WP51.
I was a diehard WP51 fan, and finally made the switch in
the fall of 1999. I have never been happier. :-)
Ed
jod...@aol.com (JodyC21) wrote in message news:<20011011132645...@mb-fy.aol.com>...
Ooh, but PRD was a thing of beauty. I mourn its demise.
Gisele
Rae Morrill in Maine
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Janice
PS: This would hurt me less if he was converting to Judism and being
recircumcised.
Mom
Well, Ed, as I said, I DID buy some of the other expanders, as well as newer
versions of word processing programs. There really is no comparison. Don't
know if you ever used ST or not, but it, too, was a thing of beauty. Now, I
CAME from the Word6 world and had to be converted, so you know what that means!
Yes, converts DO die hard! LOL. I went mucking about in WP10 last night
(yes, some people are surprised to find that it is up to 10 now! I apparently
got it the week it came out, some time ago) and IT, and figure if I have to,
that is the combo I will use....I just keep hoping something is out there that
does all of the intuitive things that ST did so well. Most people who have
used it would never let you "pry it from their dead, cold fingers." (I don't
remember who says that, but I always laugh, because I know the feeling!)
Thanks anyway, though. I guess I will have to bite the bullet yet, and get
onto that other computer more often!
Jody
Cheryl B.
(WP5.1/ST until I retire I hope)
We will listen when you can show us that we can produce 3500 lines a day with
any of the window word processing programs.
Just doesn't happen. Those of us who you hink are behind the times are
laughing all the way to the bank.
I work in several of the WP programs, but when I want to produce it is old 5.1
for me and I can out produce anyone I know.
Just call me rich archeic Janice
My DH thought I had boyfriends in other states when the phone bill came.
>I work in several of the WP programs, but when I want to produce it is old
>5.1
>for me and I can out produce anyone I know.
Becky Young
Little Rock, Arkansas
To reply by e-mail, take out the bad stuff!
WP5.1 is also bulletproof, never crashes, never gets memory overloaded,
etc., etc., etc.
> Newer Word Perfect 8.0 & Word 2000 provide:
<drivel snipped>
They also require a current computer, and the newer OS's have much more
problems. I have to reinstall Win98 every couple of months. I had to
reinstall Win95 every month, and when I use Word regularly I have to
reinstall it every month or two as well.
They also require extensive mouse use, whereas anything can be done on
WP51 with keystrokes. I can type Shift-F8,P,H,A,E and be editing a
header long before I can get my mouse and go to the header field in
Word.
> accelerator and text expander,autocomplete features, did I mention
> that it runs faster, plus these new applications give our tired eyes a
> break from that lovely and tiring blue we all came to love or hate for
> that matter.
Huh? I don't have blue on my WP screen and haven't had it ever since I
went to class and learned how to type Shift-F,D,C,E
> Take a chance, ask anybody that has made the change,
> give it a try...
This is not hate mail. This is a reality check to *you* that on the
internet or elsewhere, the old internet axiom that YMMV will always
apply.
Me too, except I'm Liz and not as rich as Janice...although I bet I can
produce as much as she can!!!
What those who think we are living in the past might not realize is that when
you're an expert at macros and have a shortcut program that does not convert to
Windows, you'd lose a ton trying to compensate.
I started with Word and even tried WP8 before being forced to used WP51 for an
employer - best damn day of my MT life that was. So, you see, some of actually
have used newer word processors, and I'm here to tell you, newer definitely
ain't better in this case.
As for as the value of Word being intuitive, that's it's biggest problem as far
as I'm concerned. :)
PamP
Another 3500 line per day MT with 5.1!
Give me archaic and reliable any day!
Pam
Mary
"Melinda Meahan" <mme...@i4f.net> wrote in message
news:3BD47BF9...@i4f.net...
Good for you, Pam! My computer is 7 years old and I'm working on
WP51/DOS, although I do have Windows - the original Windows, that is.
My SIL cracks up every time he sees my old Program Manager screen.
Liz
Now that could be cool, as sometimes I have to look and read to see that I am
in document 2, but if it was say orange I think I would know immediately
instead of finding myself in 2 and wondering what the heck I was doing there.
Janice
Mary
"JMorngstar" <jmorn...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20011022200432...@mb-fl.aol.com...
>>As for as the value of Word being intuitive, that's it's biggest problem as
far
as I'm concerned. :)
One of the FEW things I don't like about WP5.1 is that there are only
two screens. When I'm working on my orthopedics account, I keep one
screen open for letters, and the other open for notes. But then he'll
dictate a new patient summary and I have to save the notes in order to
open a screen for the summary. And then he'll need the occasional
envelope for the referring doc who's not at the hospital, and I'll have
to save the notes again and type the envelope.
But this is a minor inconvenience, certainly not enough to tempt me OUT
of WP51!!!
I agree. If you could have six screens it would be fabulous. Rae has me
convinced to write a macro for switching and saving and retrieving so that
while the screens are not all open, it doesn't take so long to jump around.
Janice
Go find 6.1; I think it has 9 screens.
But then you lose the advantages of 5.1.
Janice
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"Melinda Meahan" <mme...@i4f.net> wrote in message
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Isn't 6.1 just like 6.0 without the glitches? I have 6.0 but only use
it if I'm creating letterhead or need something fancy that 5.2 can't
do. Otherwise, I don't like it...for one, I never could get my Stedmans
6.0/6.1 Spellcheck to work and the original 6.0 has absolutely zilch
medical words!
Liz
Liz wrote:
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>One of the FEW things I don't like about WP5.1 is that there are only
>two screens. When I'm working on my orthopedics account, I keep one
>screen open for letters, and the other open for notes. But then he'll
>dictate a new patient summary and I have to save the notes in order to
>open a screen for the summary. And then he'll need the occasional
>envelope for the referring doc who's not at the hospital, and I'll have
>to save the notes again and type the envelope.
>
>But this is a minor inconvenience, certainly not enough to tempt me OUT
>of WP51!!!
A little-known trick -- make a completely different directory for
WP51, including all your macros. Start one WP51 out of the usual
directory and another out of the other. Now you have four screens. :-)
Remember this is me you are talking to, I always need more instructions than
this.
Please help, as having four screens open at the same time would be fabulous.
Janice
c:\wp51\gyn\smith etc
This way if your WP51 craps you can reinstall it and your subdirectories with
data will be intact.
Janice
I humbly apologize. No truer words were ever spoken. Time, it just takes time
to straighten me completely out and I think I am seeing the light and then I am
going to take you up on fixing all my problems.
Janice
>I humbly apologize. No truer words were ever spoken. Time, it just takes
time
to straighten me completely out and I think I am seeing the light and then I am
going to take you up on fixing all my problems.
Rae Morrill in Maine
Margie
Mary
"Mlkcmt" <mlk...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Mary
I understood her perfectly.
Make a copy of your entire c:\wp51 directory on your HDD and call it
something like c:\wp51two. Then rename the wp.exe file inside it to be
something like wptwo.
Then open one DOS box, switch to wp51 directory, and execute WP. Open
another DOS box, switch to wp51two directory, and execute wptwo.
You may have to make two copies of your abbreviation software if you
want to run it in both boxes as well. Same procedure.
Any questions?
You going to be in LA this week? I will be at Staples Center on 11-4, which I
believe is Saturday in case you are going to be here that long. Or are you
also coming to the desert?
Teaching both of us could kill more than two birds.
Janice
Well maybe if Julie never answers and it gets really really really cold this
winter, you could be bribed to visit the land of fruits and nuts where it will
be 80 in February.
Janice
Liz
Mary
"JMorngstar" <jmorn...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>That sounds like a fabulous idea, but I wouldn't have enough memory to
>do it unfortunately. :^(
Becky Young
Little Rock, Arkansas
To reply by e-mail, take out the bad stuff!
Liz
64 meg should be enough to run two copies of WP... WP only takes up half
a meg...
>64 meg should be enough to run two copies of WP... WP only takes up half
>a meg...
Becky Young
....Though nothing can bring back the hour of splendour in the grass, of glory
in the flower, We will grieve not; rather find strength in what remains behind
-- William Wordsworth
Rae, don't forget this is the woman who STILL hasn't installed Smartype using
some crazy excuse that I have to get rid of the pond on my kitchen floor before
she does it.
Judity
You have some nerve. What are you going to do if I actually do install ST Ms.
Smartypants? You see I said install, didn't say learn how to use.
Janice
Didn't I tell you that the hole in the pipe seems to have been bunged up so no
more kitchen pond? I have a suspicion that all the missing plastic bags that
disappear during the night fixed the problem. Now go ahead and install ST.
Judity
Or better yet, what if you learn how to use it without having had to
install it?
I like this theory.
I am currently forced to learn WP9 over the weekend, so we will see how I do
with that.
Janice
Janice, we have more in common than I thought! I had ST at least 3
months before I finally installed it, and then waited another three
months before trying it, before realizing that I was never really going
to have the time it took to learn it. So I uninstalled, and eventually
sold it (for less than half of what I paid, I might add!) I was using
ExplodeIt! at the time and was happy with it...and still am, BTW.
Liz
And if you will remember it is me who connected you with the buyer. At that
time I really believed that I was going to learn it. Well I guess I still have
dreams that I might, so will hold on to mine.
See we really are sisters.
Janice
64 meg should be enough to run two copies of WP... WP only takes up half
a meg...>
Yeah, but it only runs in memory under ? 640K? or something? All the RAM in
the world won't help programs that won't run in upper memory?
Mary
"RaeMorrill" <raemo...@aol.comspam> wrote in message
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I offered to see her, but only if she would transcribe. Margie leaves
her house and thinks she's on vacation -- hmph!
>I don't mean to answer for Julie, but I also run multiple copies of WP5.1 at
>once. The way I've done it is to create a new directory (I call it WP51b but
>you could name it however you like). Then, copy everything from the WP51
>directory into the newly-created directory. I also have created desktop
>icons that I use for starting both my expander program and then WP and then,
>upon exiting WP, it copies files to my Zip drive so I always have a backup.
>Now that I know how to make the screens different colors, I've also changed
>them so as to make it less confusing as to which program I'm running.
>
Mary got it right! Go ahead and speak for me -- I'm buried.
Why not? A fresh block gets allocated to each open DOS window, right?
Anne
"N. Rivera" <momb...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> To all of you 5.1 diehard fans... a RESPECTFUL reality check. It was
> the chief engineer at Lockheed Aerospace (same person who designed the
> SR-71 Spy plane)who said "if it it ain't broken why fix it"
> The problem is that wp 5.1 is an almost 15 year old program maybe
> more, that is archeic by today's standards. Change is difficult in
> most instances in life, but change is good, (most of the time). I was
> reluctant to change to a newer Word Windows 3.1 back then, it took me
> some time, but when I did, I was glad I did and said to myself why
> didn't I change before?
> From an MT standard:
> Newer Word Perfect 8.0 & Word 2000 provide:
> Faster applications, easier to use, more powerful macros, no need to
> memorize so many complicated codes, a more user friendly application,
> more intuitive to use, many, many more things to do, a built in
> accelerator and text expander,autocomplete features, did I mention
> that it runs faster, plus these new applications give our tired eyes a
> break from that lovely and tiring blue we all came to love or hate for
> that matter. Take a chance, ask anybody that has made the change,
> give it a try...and if you do not like it, I guess 5.1 will always be
> there.....just a suggestion of course. WP5.1 fans, please do not send
> me any hate mail or PC viruses for that matter....:)It is your call in
> the end..
>
You can change your background by reverse-clicking on your wallpaper,
going to Properties, selecting the Appearance tab, and changing the
"window" color. Mine is a lovely ecru color that is easy to see but
also easy on the eyes.
It's not specifically an option in Word, but you can set the color scheme
for your desktop to change the color in all open windows, so you can have a
restful grey background in them all. Right click on the desktop, and go to
Properties>Appearance. Change the colors for Window Text and Window to your
choice, and that is what you will get, not only in Word, but in Explorer,
Outlook, and everything else. I made a very light soft green gray custom
color for the Window background, which is very restful, and blends with the
rest of my color scheme, and left the type black, but you can use anything
that works for you.
Anne
"Melinda Meahan" <mme...@i4f.net> wrote in message
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Anne
"14tonks" <14t...@lycos.com> wrote in message
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No, changing the window background only changes the background color inside
each window. Your wallpaper stays the same; the other colors in your desktop
color scheme stay the same. I appreciate that you don't want to change a
color scheme that you've customized to suit you, and as long as you work in
WP5.1, you don't have to change anything. If you want to give your eyes a
rest in Word or elsewhere in Windows, I imagine there is some very pastel
background color that will work with your current desktop color scheme, and
still give your eyes a rest. I've used various pale shades of grey, cream,
yellow, blue, green, etc., over the years, depending on what my desktop
color scheme was. I've also used some different text colors, but these days
my aged eyes seem to work best on black with a soft background color.
Nope.
That also changed my news and mail reader from white to a nice light green
with black letters.
Neal
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