lecithin and sore muscles?
JayDee
nutrient I've been taking for a while, and all of a sudden I've had
the worst pain in my upper back and neck. I'm positive this has gotta
be a coincidence, but it doesn't hurt to ask. Has anyone ever heard of
1200mg per day of lecithin causing muscle achiness and/or pain?
Thanks!
- JayDee
dorsy1943
Stop taking the lecithin for a few weeks and see what happens.
Dolores
Mr. Natural-Health
> be a coincidence, but it doesn't hurt to ask.
Trust your intuition, because your logic is not much better.
al...@webtv.net
zx...@naturalhealthperspective.com (Mr. Natural-Health) wrote:
" Trust your intuition, because your
logic is not much better. "
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Truer words were never spoken,
though I'd say 'trust your own
experience'.
I've found Lecithin to be VERY
pro-inflammatory.
JayDee
I agree with you guys about experience being the key variable... but
that said, I haven't been able to find even a single article or study
that mentions this and, in fact, every article or study of seen
regarding the subject tout lecithin's ANTI-inflammatory effects!!
- JayDee
- JayDee
JayDee
> On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 16:27:48 -0800 (PST), JayDee <dopam...@mail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >> I've found Lecithin to be VERY
> >> pro-inflammatory.
>
> >I agree with you guys about experience being the key variable... but
> >that said, I haven't been able to find even a single article or study
> >that mentions this and, in fact, every article or study of seen
> >regarding the subject tout lecithin's ANTI-inflammatory effects!!
>
> thyroid function, also likely, then your body is compensating for
> everyday energy requirements by producing adrenaline and cortisol,
> which form lactic acid. That's inflammatory. If you normally
> consume a lot of soy, either in processed foods or purposefully, you
> already had a head start on that process before adding more
> lecithin.
>
> You've got to specifically look for anti-soy information if you
> expect to find it. This combined with its pervasiveness in the
> American food supply should serve as a red flag with flashing
> warning lights. There's alwayshttp://www.westonaprice.org/soy/index.html
> On lecithin specificallyhttp://www.westonaprice.org/soy/lecithin.html
>
> --
> First, eliminate the poison.
But cortisol is an extremely potent ANTI-inflammatory...
JayDee
...and soy can be the healthiest thing ever apparently, if it's
cultured: http://www.wellbeingjournal.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=43
zzzx...@gmail.com
Mr. Natural-Health
This is really not rocket science.
A reaction to to any supplement would obviously be generalized to your
entire body. Localized muscle aches in just your upper back and neck
would be obviously due to something else. Could be caused by
something as simple as sleeping on a bad mattress, or in a bad sleep
position.
Mr. Natural-Health
I am sensitive to soy, and once suffered from an inflamed thyroid
problem. But, I have never ever experienced any problems with SOY
Lecithin.
Mr. Natural-Health
Being sensitive to SOY, I try to avoid most SOY products, such as Soy
Protein powder.
SOY is naturally toxic and inedible in its natural state. It is
definitely one food that has to be heavily processed before it is
edible. That fact alone should set off alarms.
To be healthy, soy has to be correctedly processed. What that exactly
means is quite debatable, but I automatically distrust all Western
processors of food to correctly process soy. Also consider this fact,
vegetables like broccoli protect against cancer precisely because when
consume raw in large quantities they are toxic to your thyroid.
That being said, soy will cause thyroid problems, rather than muscle
aches.
JayDee
interestingly, my curiousity was about choline - i only mentioned
lecithin as a side thought. I had taken choline some time ago and
remember getting headaches from it - they seemed to be worse with GPC
than PC. My memory is horrible, so it was one of my many attempts to
supplement it outside of the brain exercises I do every night! Tried
Ginkgo as well, and vinpocetine.
thanks for all your replies!!
- j
John Nolan
<43130df2-85da-480c...@z17g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, JayDee
<dopa...@mail.com> wrote:
om>interestingly, my curiousity was about choline - i only mentioned
om>lecithin as a side thought. I had taken choline some time ago and
om>remember getting headaches from it - they seemed to be worse with GPC
om>than PC. My memory is horrible, so it was one of my many attempts to
om>supplement it outside of the brain exercises I do every night! Tried
om>Ginkgo as well, and vinpocetine.
Hi JayDee, I have followed this thread with great interest.
Just to say, I'm a old Brit, of 71, who is fortunate to have no aches or
pains. This may be co-incidence or not, but
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now comes a small commercial !!
I happen to have "signed up" with a top level USA food supplement company
called Mannatech. Since I am selling Mannatech products, I take them myself,
so people can judge whether or not they are doing me harm !! They make a
range of products including a "flagship" one to do with glyconutrients. If
you haven't heard of these things, they may be worth a look. Glucosamine is
just one glyconutrient, but there are others. Ideally, we need 8 in our diet
altogether. But a healthy body can get by with a particular 2, from which it
can syntesise the other 6. If you want to know more, we can either carry on
this thread or I can say more by email.
The commercial bit is that, if you do look into it and decide to sign up
with Mannatech, it would be rather nice if you signed up under me.
But,
I am not the world's best businessman
and,
the most important thing is if you can be cured.
Mannatech's products all come from natural sources.
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Mr. Natural-Health
>
> om>interestingly, my curiousity was about choline - i only mentioned
> om>lecithin as a side thought. I had taken choline some time ago and
> om>remember getting headaches from it - they seemed to be worse with GPC
> om>than PC. My memory is horrible, so it was one of my many attempts to
> om>supplement it outside of the brain exercises I do every night! Tried
> om>Ginkgo as well, and vinpocetine.
>
> Hi JayDee, I have followed this thread with great interest.
> Just to say, I'm a old Brit, of 71, who is fortunate to have no aches or
> pains. This may be co-incidence or not, but
Why are so many Brits so down right Weird?
> now comes a small commercial !!
> I happen to have "signed up" with a top level USA food supplement company
> called Mannatech. Since I am selling Mannatech products, I take them myself,
> so people can judge whether or not they are doing me harm !! They make a
> range of products including a "flagship" one to do with glyconutrients. If
> you haven't heard of these things, they may be worth a look. Glucosamine is
> just one glyconutrient, but there are others. Ideally, we need 8 in our diet
> altogether. But a healthy body can get by with a particular 2, from which it
> can syntesise the other 6. If you want to know more, we can either carry on
> this thread or I can say more by email.
> The commercial bit is that, if you do look into it and decide to sign up
> with Mannatech, it would be rather nice if you signed up under me.
> But,
> I am not the world's best businessman
> and,
> the most important thing is if you can be cured.
> Mannatech's products all come from natural sources.
Now, I know why the Brits are mentally ill. Do you think that anybody
actually believes your SPAM?
al...@webtv.net
zx...@naturalhealthperspective.com (Mr. Natural-Health) wrote:
" A reaction to to any supplement would obviously be generalized to your
entire body. Localized muscle aches in just your upper back and neck
would be obviously due to something else. Could be caused by something
as simple as sleeping on a bad mattress, or in a bad sleep position. "
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Not necessarily, on both accounts.
Dietary components can lead to localized
problems, though other factors will have
an effect as well.
The bad sleeping posture can be made
worse by eatings something that affects
the circulation adversely.