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"pill popper"
Sep 14, 2012, 6:30:28 PM9/14/12
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> > Health: "Good digestion is what makes health possible."
>
> "This is an operational definition, folks.
>
> It basically states that the end result of good digestion is health.
Heal=
th
> is nothing more, nor less than a state of good digestion.
>
> Prove me wrong, Science Psychos. =A0:)"
>
> Good health is the result of a combination of biological processes.
=A0Pr=
oper
> digestion is only one of them. =A0The best digestion and exposure to tb
i=
s
> not a combination one should coung on for not contracting tb, as one
> example.
"NEVER heard of tb. Of course, you are delusional, ... at best, and just
plain "nuts" at worse."
The best digestion with a poor diet does not provide good health, for a
second example.
The best digestion and over consumption with obesity doesn't provide good
health, for a third example.
>
> "This is an operational definition, folks.
>
> It basically states that the end result of good digestion is health.
Heal=
th
> is nothing more, nor less than a state of good digestion.
>
> Prove me wrong, Science Psychos. =A0:)"
>
> Good health is the result of a combination of biological processes.
=A0Pr=
oper
> digestion is only one of them. =A0The best digestion and exposure to tb
i=
s
> not a combination one should coung on for not contracting tb, as one
> example.
"NEVER heard of tb. Of course, you are delusional, ... at best, and just
plain "nuts" at worse."
The best digestion with a poor diet does not provide good health, for a
second example.
The best digestion and over consumption with obesity doesn't provide good
health, for a third example.
John H. Gohde
Sep 14, 2012, 7:59:06 PM9/14/12
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On Sep 14, 6:30 pm, "pill popper" wrote:
> The best digestion and over consumption with obesity doesn't provide good
> health, for a third example.
Again, an obese person who is still breathing is considered by
> The best digestion and over consumption with obesity doesn't provide good
> health, for a third example.
conventional medicine to be in possession of health.
John H. Gohde
Sep 14, 2012, 9:20:11 PM9/14/12
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On Sep 14, 6:30 pm, "pill popper" wrote:
> Just a few days ago, I even managed to come up with my own definition
> of health.
http://tinyurl.com/7uaf89n
Health: "Good digestion is what makes health possible."
"good digestion" is the central controlling factor that enables a
state of health. NOT "good" health or "wellness," just health.
"pill popper"
Sep 15, 2012, 9:23:09 AM9/15/12
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> > Health: "Good digestion is what makes health possible."
>
> "This is an operational definition, folks.
>
> It basically states that the end result of good digestion is health.
Heal=
th
> is nothing more, nor less than a state of good digestion.
>
> Prove me wrong, Science Psychos. =A0:)"
>
> Good health is the result of a combination of biological processes.
=A0Pr=
oper
> digestion is only one of them. =A0The best digestion and exposure to tb
i=
s
> not a combination one should coung on for not contracting tb, as one
> example.
"NEVER heard of tb. Of course, you are delusional, ... at best, and just
plain "nuts" at worse."
The best digestion with a poor diet does not provide good health, for a
>
> "This is an operational definition, folks.
>
> It basically states that the end result of good digestion is health.
Heal=
th
> is nothing more, nor less than a state of good digestion.
>
> Prove me wrong, Science Psychos. =A0:)"
>
> Good health is the result of a combination of biological processes.
=A0Pr=
oper
> digestion is only one of them. =A0The best digestion and exposure to tb
i=
s
> not a combination one should coung on for not contracting tb, as one
> example.
"NEVER heard of tb. Of course, you are delusional, ... at best, and just
plain "nuts" at worse."
second example.
The best digestion and over consumption with obesity doesn't provide good
health, for a third example.
forth example.
John H. Gohde
Sep 15, 2012, 9:48:30 AM9/15/12
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actually written???
I am talking ONLY about a state of health, NOT the "good" health that
you keep insisting on. There is a big difference! The devil is in
the details. :(
"pill popper"
Sep 15, 2012, 1:19:17 PM9/15/12
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> > Health: "Good digestion is what makes health possible."
>
> "This is an operational definition, folks.
>
> It basically states that the end result of good digestion is health.
Heal=
th
> is nothing more, nor less than a state of good digestion.
>
> Prove me wrong, Science Psychos. =A0:)"
>
> Good health is the result of a combination of biological processes.
Proper
>
> "This is an operational definition, folks.
>
> It basically states that the end result of good digestion is health.
Heal=
th
> is nothing more, nor less than a state of good digestion.
>
> Prove me wrong, Science Psychos. =A0:)"
>
> Good health is the result of a combination of biological processes.
> digestion is only one of them. The best digestion and exposure to tb
is
> not a combination one should coung on for not contracting tb, as one
> example.
"NEVER heard of tb. Of course, you are delusional, ... at best, and just
plain "nuts" at worse."
The best digestion with a poor diet does not provide good health, for a
second example.
The best digestion and over consumption with obesity doesn't provide good
health, for a third example.
The best digestion and being sedentary does not produce good health, for a
forth example.
The best digestion and not attending to our medical needs does not provide
> example.
"NEVER heard of tb. Of course, you are delusional, ... at best, and just
plain "nuts" at worse."
The best digestion with a poor diet does not provide good health, for a
second example.
The best digestion and over consumption with obesity doesn't provide good
health, for a third example.
The best digestion and being sedentary does not produce good health, for a
forth example.
good health, for a fith example.
John H. Gohde
Sep 15, 2012, 1:27:37 PM9/15/12
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"pill popper"
Sep 15, 2012, 1:49:19 PM9/15/12
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That is like saying tomorrow we will have weather without qualifying its
nature or desirability.. Good digestion or not tomorrow we will have
weather.
Effective digestion is perhaps a better term and one must state effective
to what end or measure or biological status as the examples would indicate.
Good digestion, whatever that means, does lead to health; regardless of the
nature of that health quality. That is because the other factors that
determine health quality are not included, as the examples illustrrate.
John H. Gohde
Sep 15, 2012, 1:58:58 PM9/15/12
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On Sep 14, 4:32 pm, "pill popper" wrote:
> > Health: "Good digestion is what makes health possible."
>
> "This is an operational definition, folks.
>
> It basically states that the end result of good digestion is health. Health
> > Health: "Good digestion is what makes health possible."
>
> "This is an operational definition, folks.
>
> is nothing more, nor less than a state of good digestion.
>
> Prove me wrong, Science Psychos. :)"
>
>
> Good health is the result of a combination of biological processes. Proper
> digestion is only one of them. The best digestion and exposure to tb is
> not a combination one should coung on for not contracting tb, as one
> example.
tb spelled backwards is Bt toxin, Bacillus thuringiensis
> Good health is the result of a combination of biological processes. Proper
> digestion is only one of them. The best digestion and exposure to tb is
> not a combination one should coung on for not contracting tb, as one
> example.
"pill popper"
Sep 15, 2012, 5:25:42 PM9/15/12
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> > Health: "Good digestion is what makes health possible."
>
> "This is an operational definition, folks.
>
> It basically states that the end result of good digestion is health.
th
> is nothing more, nor less than a state of good digestion.
>
> Prove me wrong, Science Psychos. =A0:)"
> is nothing more, nor less than a state of good digestion.
>
>
> Good health is the result of a combination of biological processes.
=A0Pr=
> Good health is the result of a combination of biological processes.
oper
> digestion is only one of them. =A0The best digestion and exposure to tb
i=
s
> not a combination one should coung on for not contracting tb, as one
> example.
"tb spelled backwards is Bt toxin, Bacillus thuringiensis"
Yes, an organic pesticide I have used in my garden. It is not toxic in
> not a combination one should coung on for not contracting tb, as one
> example.
"tb spelled backwards is Bt toxin, Bacillus thuringiensis"
humans which makes its application to questions of digestion and health
meaningless.
John H. Gohde
Sep 15, 2012, 5:32:22 PM9/15/12
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meaningless.
John H. Gohde
Sep 16, 2012, 8:00:24 AM9/16/12
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On Sep 15, 5:25 pm, "pill popper" wrote:
> > > Health: "Good digestion is what makes health possible."
>
> > "This is an operational definition, folks.
>
> > It basically states that the end result of good digestion is health.
>
> Heal=
> th> is nothing more, nor less than a state of good digestion.
>
> > Prove me wrong, Science Psychos. =A0:)"
>
> > Good health is the result of a combination of biological processes.
>
> =A0Pr=
> oper> digestion is only one of them. =A0The best digestion and exposure to tb
>
> i=
> s
>
> > not a combination one should coung on for not contracting tb, as one
> > example.
I am sorry but ...
>
> > "This is an operational definition, folks.
>
> > It basically states that the end result of good digestion is health.
>
> Heal=
> th> is nothing more, nor less than a state of good digestion.
>
> > Prove me wrong, Science Psychos. =A0:)"
>
> > Good health is the result of a combination of biological processes.
>
> =A0Pr=
> oper> digestion is only one of them. =A0The best digestion and exposure to tb
>
> i=
> s
>
> > not a combination one should coung on for not contracting tb, as one
> > example.
http://tinyurl.com/7uaf89n
Health: "Good digestion is what makes health possible."
Nor, did I even say "Good" health, nor "Wellness."
You really need to get your facts straight.
There is:
- ill health,
- health,
- good health, and finally
- wellness.
Perhaps, if you were to focus?
Contracting TB, or any other communicable disease for that matter,
means that you no longer have health, rather ill health. In other
words, with JUST good digestion you experience health until you catch
a communicable disease, even if it is just the common cold.
Any other clinical state other than that of good digestion means that
you are experiencing a better status that would be rated at the higher
level of good health, optimum health, or even a wellness status.
Again, perhaps, if you were to focus?
For a Science Psycho, why are YOU always arguing for a Natural Health
point of view?
"pill popper"
Sep 17, 2012, 10:19:47 AM9/17/12
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"Contracting TB, or any other communicable disease for that matter, means
that you no longer have health, rather ill health. In other words, with
JUST good digestion you experience health until you catch a communicable
disease, even if it is just the common cold."
"Any other clinical state other than that of good digestion means that you
are experiencing a better status that would be rated at the higher level of
good health, optimum health, or even a wellness status."
is an incomplete and misleading statement.
"Again, perhaps, if you were to focus?
For a Science Psycho, why are YOU always arguing for a Natural Health point
of view?"
given time. I don't start out with a "point of view" and pick my evidence
to suit.
John H. Gohde
Sep 17, 2012, 2:03:12 PM9/17/12
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Robert Miles
Oct 23, 2012, 12:51:10 AM10/23/12
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On 9/14/2012 4:19 PM, John H. Gohde wrote:
>>
>> Good health is the result of a combination of biological processes. Proper
>> digestion is only one of them. The best digestion and exposure to tb is
Look up tuberculosis, often abbreviated TB.
> On Sep 14, 4:32 pm, "pill popper" wrote:
>>> Health: "Good digestion is what makes health possible."
>>
>> "This is an operational definition, folks.
>>
>> It basically states that the end result of good digestion is health. Health
>>> Health: "Good digestion is what makes health possible."
>>
>> "This is an operational definition, folks.
>>
>> is nothing more, nor less than a state of good digestion.
>>
>> Prove me wrong, Science Psychos. :)"
>>
>>
>> Good health is the result of a combination of biological processes. Proper
>> digestion is only one of them. The best digestion and exposure to tb is
>> not a combination one should coung on for not contracting tb, as one
>> example.
>
>> example.
>
> NEVER heard of tb. Of course, you are delusional, ... at best, and
> just plain "nuts" at worse.
>
> Ha, ... hah, Ha! What a loser!
> just plain "nuts" at worse.
>
Look up tuberculosis, often abbreviated TB.
Robert Miles
Oct 23, 2012, 12:55:42 AM10/23/12
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health?
jigo
Apr 18, 2012, 9:12:18 PM4/18/12
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Why this is marked as abuse? It has been marked as abuse.
Report not abuse
Several studies have reported that HTP can help relieve pain (e.g.,
Caruso I et al. Double-blind study of 5-hydroxytryptophan versus placebo
in the treatment of primary fibromyalgia syndrome. J Int Med Res. 1990
May-Jun;18(3):201-9. Birdsall TC. 5-Hydroxytryptophan: a
clinically-effective serotonin precursor. Altern Med Rev. 1998
Aug;3(4):271-80.)
But others like Steven Harris present compelling arguments that it is
not effective (in fact may be harmful) because very little enters the brain.
Is there any consensus on this question?
Caruso I et al. Double-blind study of 5-hydroxytryptophan versus placebo
in the treatment of primary fibromyalgia syndrome. J Int Med Res. 1990
May-Jun;18(3):201-9. Birdsall TC. 5-Hydroxytryptophan: a
clinically-effective serotonin precursor. Altern Med Rev. 1998
Aug;3(4):271-80.)
But others like Steven Harris present compelling arguments that it is
not effective (in fact may be harmful) because very little enters the brain.
Is there any consensus on this question?
trigonometry1972@gmail.com |
Apr 26, 2012, 8:56:42 PM4/26/12
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statins in the past ( I am not sure about now). You'd think an amino
acid would make it past but what do I know/
John H. Gohde
Apr 27, 2012, 7:44:39 AM4/27/12
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seconds.
John H. Gohde
Apr 27, 2012, 7:58:49 AM4/27/12
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On Apr 18, 9:12 pm, jigo <reti...@home.com> wrote:
http://www.peacehealth.org/xhtml/content/cam/hn-1215007.html
Fibromyalgia—an unsolved mystery—is a complex syndrome with no known
cause or sure cure. According to research or other evidence, the
following self-care steps may be helpful.
Exercise
Low-intensity exercise (like walking or swimming) is the best known
treatment
Address your stress
Reducing stress and unpleasant emotions may also reduce symptoms
Try 5-HTP
100 mg of the supplement 5-hydroxytryptophan three times a day may
ease symptoms
Check out SAMe
800 mg of the supplement S-adenosyl-l-methionine a day may help
symptoms
too cheap to spend a dime, then you are too cheap to waste more of my
time
John H. Gohde
Apr 27, 2012, 8:38:20 AM4/27/12
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On Apr 18, 9:12 pm, jigo <reti...@home.com> wrote:
search engine.
http://tinyurl.com/cex3of2
Yes, the above link now returns even videos that ANSWER your above
query.
Unknown
Apr 27, 2012, 2:05:23 PM4/27/12
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"Just for the hell of it, I added a video option to my custom Google search
engine.
http://tinyurl.com/cex3of2"
Unknown
Apr 27, 2012, 2:08:03 PM4/27/12
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"Any fool could google this query and get the answer in about five
seconds."
Hmmm?
trigonometry1972@gmail.com |
Apr 27, 2012, 10:00:53 PM4/27/12
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only?
Unknown
Apr 28, 2012, 9:57:09 AM4/28/12
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> "Just for the hell of it, I added a video option to my custom Google
sear=
ch
> engine.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/cex3of2"
>
> Yup, google is great ain't it?
"John lifted his fingers to help and you just lifted a middle finger only?"
John lifted his finger to boast of something so trivial that a child can do
> engine.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/cex3of2"
>
> Yup, google is great ain't it?
"John lifted his fingers to help and you just lifted a middle finger only?"
it. Why feed the personality disorder?
He lifted his finger to direct traffic to his page because he gets paid for
click throughs on it.
Just thought you would want to know.
John H. Gohde
Apr 29, 2012, 6:35:38 AM4/29/12
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On Apr 28, 9:57 am, "pill popper" wrote:
> > "Just for the hell of it, I added a video option to my custom Google
>
> sear=
> ch
>
> > engine.
>
Will the "invalid profile" fool please respond to at least one post
> > "Just for the hell of it, I added a video option to my custom Google
>
> sear=
> ch
>
> > engine.
>
CORRECTLY without any of YOUR above mentally ill ravings, before the
miserable low-life expires for being a total nutrition moron?
oldgoat
Apr 30, 2012, 5:27:42 AM4/30/12
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On Apr 29, 6:35 am, "John H. Gohde" <john.h.go...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 28, 9:57 am, "pill popper" wrote:
>
> > > "Just for the hell of it, I added a video option to my custom Google
>
> > sear=
> > ch,
> On Apr 28, 9:57 am, "pill popper" wrote:
>
> > > "Just for the hell of it, I added a video option to my custom Google
>
> > sear=
>
> > > engine.
>
> Will the "invalid profile" fool please respond to at least one post
> CORRECTLY without any of YOUR above mentally ill ravings, before the
> miserable low-life expires for being a total nutrition moron?
I hate to interrupt the rythym of a good net fight but pain allows for
> > > engine.
>
> Will the "invalid profile" fool please respond to at least one post
> CORRECTLY without any of YOUR above mentally ill ravings, before the
> miserable low-life expires for being a total nutrition moron?
many depths of severity most of which must be experienced to be
understoood. Experience with it can count for a great deal when
discussing the relative effectiveness of a treatment. HTP might help
someone having pain from a splinter in their finger, but a bad lumbar
disk? Gotta live it to know it. What I don't get in these trials is
they always compare efficacy to a placebo. That's a medication that
has no effect, is it not? How has "as good as a drug having no
efffect" become an endorsement for a pain drug? Wouldn't a capsule
filled with nothing have an equivalent affect? Why don't they compare
it it to morphine or at least tylenol so they can compare organ
disintergrating side effects.
Sorry, don't let me inturrupt--og
John H. Gohde
Apr 30, 2012, 8:27:17 AM4/30/12
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the crazy people kindly stay away from me?
Too stupid to use my search engine to check for a cure for bad lumbar
disks THEN you are too stupid to get better. Once again, YOU own the
problem, NOT me. Damn if I will feel guilty about providing a tool
for locating health solutions.
Unknown
Apr 30, 2012, 9:52:39 AM4/30/12
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"Too stupid to use my search engine to check for a cure for bad lumbar
disks THEN you are too stupid to get better. Once again, YOU own the
problem, NOT me. Damn if I will feel guilty about providing a tool
for locating health solutions."
If your google based search is limited only to the content of your site it
disks THEN you are too stupid to get better. Once again, YOU own the
problem, NOT me. Damn if I will feel guilty about providing a tool
for locating health solutions."
is propaganda by exclusion, no?
Best one thinks to use standard google for medical questions generally.
Why be limited to those with an axe to grind?
John H. Gohde
Apr 30, 2012, 10:45:22 AM4/30/12
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I absolutely refuse to point out what should be perfectly obvious from
simple observational skills to everyone except for morons like you.
Doug
May 1, 2012, 8:50:50 AM5/1/12
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"John H. Gohde" <john.h...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:cd154a70-4e02-4f39...@9g2000yqp.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 30, 5:27 am, oldgoat <oldgoatm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Who the hell said anything about pain from a bad lumbar
> disk? Will the crazy people kindly stay away from me?
og was using Lumbar as an example of Chronic pain. To state that HTP is
> disk? Will the crazy people kindly stay away from me?
useless for CP. I have been a CP patient for over 20 years. I have tried
every medical procedure , prescription med and natural herbs as HTP. Yes I
have Fibro amongst 5 other Chronic Pain Syndromes.
He stated HTP is as good as a drug having no effect!!!!!!! So why endorse
it for pain??
Usually herbs and organic meds do not have side effects, if they do, they
are usually not to serious.
Get emergency medical help if you have any of these signs of an allergic
reaction: hives; difficulty breathing; swelling of your face, lips, tongue,
or throat. Call your healthcare provider at once if you have a serious side
effect such as skin rash, bruising, severe tingling, numbness, pain, or
muscle weakness.
Less serious side effects may include:
stomach pain;
nausea, vomiting;
gas, heartburn; or
loss of appetite.
This is not a complete list of side effects and others may occur.
Read more at
http://www.drugs.com/mtm/5-hydroxytryptophan.html#3tQSigD0CPmmtyde.99
P.S. og, I have been out of commission for awhile, nothing too bad, in
Hospital awhile. I have had less than am hour and 20 minutes sleep for 4
nights. I saw this gentlemen call you a crazy person. I get personally upset
. I tried to defend you. My writing skills are usually not up to your par.
Even worse with no sleep. ( Brain not working).
Hope everyone is ok .
Doug
John H. Gohde
May 1, 2012, 11:35:25 AM5/1/12
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On May 1, 8:50 am, "Doug" <nos...@nospam.net> wrote:
> Even worse with no sleep. ( Brain not working).
I would second that bit about your brain not working.
> Even worse with no sleep. ( Brain not working).
oldgoat
May 2, 2012, 12:47:27 AM5/2/12
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On May 1, 8:50 am, "Doug" <nos...@nospam.net> wrote:
> "John H. Gohde" <john.h.go...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:cd154a70-4e02-4f39...@9g2000yqp.googlegroups.com...
>
> P.S. og, I have been out of commission for awhile, nothing too bad, in
> Hospital awhile. I have had less than am hour and 20 minutes sleep for 4
> nights. I saw this gentlemen call you a crazy person. I get personally upset
> . I tried to defend you. My writing skills are usually not up to your par.
> Even worse with no sleep. ( Brain not working).
>
> Hope everyone is ok .
>
> Doug
Dear Doug,
> P.S. og, I have been out of commission for awhile, nothing too bad, in
> Hospital awhile. I have had less than am hour and 20 minutes sleep for 4
> nights. I saw this gentlemen call you a crazy person. I get personally upset
> . I tried to defend you. My writing skills are usually not up to your par.
> Even worse with no sleep. ( Brain not working).
>
> Hope everyone is ok .
>
> Doug
You can lead a horse to water but you can't tell them what end to
think with. There's always going to be one more jackass on the
horizon, cut and paste crossposting, as they don't have intellect to
lay down any of their own. Dont worry bout me, friend, you take care
of yourself. Stay outta that damn place and don't make me get Denise
on your case.
Stay in touch--og
Doug
May 6, 2012, 3:26:49 AM5/6/12
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"oldgoat" <oldgo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I certainly will and try to stay out of there!!!!!
Doug
John H. Gohde
May 6, 2012, 10:32:42 AM5/6/12
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On May 2, 12:47 am, oldgoat <oldgoatm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> There's always going to be one more jackass on the
> horizon, cut and paste crossposting, as they don't have intellect to
> lay down any of their own.
Surely, you are NOT referring to moi?
> There's always going to be one more jackass on the
> horizon, cut and paste crossposting, as they don't have intellect to
> lay down any of their own.
I have written an original 200+ Web site of my own.
http://tinyurl.com/clkekzt
In addition, I created and wrote the original versions of numerous key
articles on Wikipedia.
http://tinyurl.com/6wvhjch
http://tinyurl.com/6mts449
http://tinyurl.com/bqeeh68
I could go on for quite awhile listing my Wikipedia credits. But, who
could overlook my WikiProject?
http://tinyurl.com/btr3aac
All of which have survived numerous attempts by the SCIENCE factions
to delete them. Hmn, ... evidence of the superior intellect I
suppose. :)
Just a few days ago, I even managed to come up with my own definition
of health.
http://tinyurl.com/7uaf89n
Few SCIENCE people possess the skill set to develop their own Web
site, or even a portal on Wikipedia [which I was able to put up in
only one day of editing]. None of you blokes, I am afraid is capable
of writing good content, let alone come up with original thinking that
survived the test of time at Wikipedia.
Unknown
May 7, 2012, 10:18:24 AM5/7/12
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Don't feed the spammer. If one goes to his site and clicks through on
links there he gets paid.
He boasts about how much money he earns from this.
If there is something of value he can add then it can be done in a post.
John H. Gohde
May 7, 2012, 1:19:20 PM5/7/12
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> There's always going to be one more jackass on the
> horizon, cut and paste crossposting, as they don't have intellect to
> lay down any of their own.
---CORRECTION---
> horizon, cut and paste crossposting, as they don't have intellect to
> lay down any of their own.
Surely, you are NOT referring to moi?
http://tinyurl.com/clkekzt
In addition, I created and wrote the original versions of numerous key
articles on Wikipedia.
http://tinyurl.com/6wvhjch
http://tinyurl.com/6mts449
http://tinyurl.com/bqeeh68
I could go on for quite awhile listing my Wikipedia credits. But, who
could overlook my WikiProject?
http://tinyurl.com/btr3aac
All of which have survived numerous attempts by the SCIENCE factions
I presume. :)
Just a few days ago, I even managed to come up with my own definition
of health.
http://tinyurl.com/7uaf89n
Few SCIENCE people possess the skill set to develop their own Web
site, or even a portal on Wikipedia [which I was able to put up in
only one day of editing]. None of you blokes, I am afraid is capable
of writing good content, let alone come up with original thinking that
survived the test of time at Wikipedia.
Unknown
May 7, 2012, 3:13:51 PM5/7/12
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"I could go on for quite awhile listing my Wikipedia credits. But, who"
Then you turn around and whine because you are corrected on your
"contributions" others find in error.
That is part of the wiki process too, no?
As you say, you started your own web pages so as not to risk being
corrected/contridicted in your opinions.
John H. Gohde
May 7, 2012, 5:31:35 PM5/7/12
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outright or merged into Health. It has survived at least 3 attempts
to delete it.
Now, thanks to my operational definition of Health, Wikipedia's Health
article should now be merged into their Digestion article. :)
Unknown
May 7, 2012, 5:47:30 PM5/7/12
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> "I could go on for quite awhile listing my Wikipedia credits. =A0But,
who=
consideration. This unlike previous atttmpts which did not.
"Now, thanks to my operational definition of Health, Wikipedia's Health
article should now be merged into their Digestion article. :)"
Smile, go for it, we await events.
who=
"
>
> Smile, anyone can put in their 2 cents there.
>
> Then you turn around and whine because you are corrected on your
> "contributions" others find in error.
>
> That is part of the wiki process too, no?
>
> As you say, you started your own web pages so as not to risk being
> corrected/contridicted in your opinions.
"Before my Wellness article, ALL previous attempts were either deleted
outright or merged into Health. It has survived at least 3 attempts to
delete it."
Interpretation, it is well enough within accepted research as to bare some
>
> Smile, anyone can put in their 2 cents there.
>
> Then you turn around and whine because you are corrected on your
> "contributions" others find in error.
>
> That is part of the wiki process too, no?
>
> As you say, you started your own web pages so as not to risk being
> corrected/contridicted in your opinions.
"Before my Wellness article, ALL previous attempts were either deleted
outright or merged into Health. It has survived at least 3 attempts to
delete it."
consideration. This unlike previous atttmpts which did not.
"Now, thanks to my operational definition of Health, Wikipedia's Health
article should now be merged into their Digestion article. :)"
Karen Officer
Sep 11, 2012, 12:33:37 AM9/11/12
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On Sun, 6 May 2012 07:32:42 -0700 (PDT), in sci.med.nutrition, "John
H. Gohde" <john.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On May 2, 12:47�am, oldgoat <oldgoatm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> There's always going to be one more jackass on the
>> horizon, cut and paste crossposting, as they don't have intellect to
>> lay down any of their own.
>
>Surely, you are NOT referring to moi?
>
>I have written an original 200+ Web site of my own.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/clkekzt
>
>In addition, I created and wrote the original versions of numerous key
>articles on Wikipedia.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/6wvhjch
>
>http://tinyurl.com/6mts449
>
>http://tinyurl.com/bqeeh68
>
>I could go on for quite awhile listing my Wikipedia credits. But, who
>could overlook my WikiProject?
>
>http://tinyurl.com/btr3aac
>
>All of which have survived numerous attempts by the SCIENCE factions
>to delete them. Hmn, ... evidence of the superior intellect I
>suppose. :)
>
>Just a few days ago, I even managed to come up with my own definition
>of health..
H. Gohde" <john.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On May 2, 12:47�am, oldgoat <oldgoatm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> There's always going to be one more jackass on the
>> horizon, cut and paste crossposting, as they don't have intellect to
>> lay down any of their own.
>
>Surely, you are NOT referring to moi?
>
>I have written an original 200+ Web site of my own.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/clkekzt
>
>In addition, I created and wrote the original versions of numerous key
>articles on Wikipedia.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/6wvhjch
>
>http://tinyurl.com/6mts449
>
>http://tinyurl.com/bqeeh68
>
>I could go on for quite awhile listing my Wikipedia credits. But, who
>could overlook my WikiProject?
>
>http://tinyurl.com/btr3aac
>
>All of which have survived numerous attempts by the SCIENCE factions
>to delete them. Hmn, ... evidence of the superior intellect I
>suppose. :)
>
>Just a few days ago, I even managed to come up with my own definition
>
>http://tinyurl.com/7uaf89n
A legend in his own mind, with the writing and grammatical skills of a
ten year old. Wow, I'm impressed, NOT
John H. Gohde
Sep 11, 2012, 9:20:37 AM9/11/12
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On Sep 11, 12:33 am, Karen Officer <kquilts
+noviruswan...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 6 May 2012 07:32:42 -0700 (PDT), in sci.med.nutrition, "John
>
You can go back into your coma, Karen Officer.
> On Sun, 6 May 2012 07:32:42 -0700 (PDT), in sci.med.nutrition, "John
>
John H. Gohde
Sep 12, 2012, 10:44:55 PM9/12/12
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> Just a few days ago, I even managed to come up with my own definition
> of health.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/7uaf89n
> of health.
>
Health: "Good digestion is what makes health possible."
Of course, if one went back to 1999 on smn, a Paul Wakfer aka Tom
Matthews once told me that I would never be able to come up with a
definition for natural health.
Well, I proved him wrong. :)
http://tinyurl.com/8kentsv
Natural Health: "Natural health is an eclectic self-care system of
natural therapies that builds and restores health and wellness by
working with the natural recuperative powers of the human body."
Plus, I was able to put this definition out on the Web by way of
Wikipedia.
As well as directly on Google. :)
http://tinyurl.com/9sduttf
Again in Wikipedia, I was the person who successfully put "Wellness"
from an Alternative Medicine point of view, bad grammar and all, into
its own article that has stood the test of time. So, obviously my
grammar was NOT all that bad.
http://tinyurl.com/6wvhjch
Occasional bad grammar, or NOT, originality is something Science
Psychos on smn can ONLY dream about, but NEVER obtain. :)
Then again there is NOT much of a challenge in out doing Science
Psychos on smn. :)
> Few SCIENCE people possess the skill set to develop their own Web
> site, or even a portal on Wikipedia [which I was able to put up in
> only one day of editing]. None of you blokes, I am afraid is capable
> of writing good content, let alone come up with original thinking that
> survived the test of time at Wikipedia.
>
> Opportunities to improve upon perfection are always welcome! :)
Again, running a Web site in the new Millennium is NOT nothing, it is
absolutely everything. Furthermore, it is a technically challenging
undertaking which is NOT for the faint of heart.
When I was running my own Wordpress Blog, I even wrote functioning PHP
code in lieu of using plugins. Again, changing PHP code online in a
dynamic Web site is NOT for the faint of heart.
Unknown
Sep 13, 2012, 8:41:31 AM9/13/12
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"Again, running a Web site in the new Millennium is NOT nothing, it is
absolutely everything. Furthermore, it is a technically challenging"
site?
Too bad about the wiki thing. When it is a cooperative effort one can not
assume one's ideas will be accepted willy nilly.
John H. Gohde
Sep 13, 2012, 9:53:04 AM9/13/12
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Since you are too stupid to figure who made the first edit in articles
on Wikipedia, here it is for you.
Wellness (alternative medicine): Revision history
earliest) View
08:49, 28 February 2005? John Gohde (talk | contribs)? . . (1,769
bytes)
http://tinyurl.com/8hmuc9n
I foolishly at the time developed this article live, which means it
could have been subjected to immediate attack by the Science Psychos
on Wikipedia.
Nevertheless, I had managed to come up with my final version at about:
01:13, 19 March 2005? John Gohde (talk | contribs)? . . (5,817 bytes)
http://tinyurl.com/9eh7w46
Since then, the current version has NOT changed very much at all.
The more intelligent way of creating alternative medicine related
articles on Wikipedia would have been to have develop it on you own
work space on your user page. NEVERTHELESS, I was so good at what I
did I was able to fight off the hordes of Science Psychos. :)
Unknown
Sep 13, 2012, 10:27:05 AM9/13/12
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> "Again, running a Web site in the new Millennium is NOT nothing, it is
> absolutely everything. =A0Furthermore, it is a technically challenging"
>
> Gosh, but can you make money doing it and getting people to visit your
> site?
>
> Too bad about the wiki thing. =A0When it is a cooperative effort one can
> Gosh, but can you make money doing it and getting people to visit your
> site?
>
=
not
> assume one's ideas will be accepted willy nilly.
"I created it and made the first edit.
Since you are too stupid to figure who made the first edit in articles
on Wikipedia, here it is for you.
Wellness (alternative medicine): Revision history
earliest) View
08:49, 28 February 2005? John Gohde (talk | contribs)? . . (1,769
bytes)
http://tinyurl.com/8hmuc9n
I foolishly at the time developed this article live, which means it
could have been subjected to immediate attack by the Science Psychos
on Wikipedia.
Nevertheless, I had managed to come up with my final version at about:
01:13, 19 March 2005? John Gohde (talk | contribs)? . . (5,817 bytes)
http://tinyurl.com/9eh7w46
Since then, the current version has NOT changed very much at all.
The more intelligent way of creating alternative medicine related
articles on Wikipedia would have been to have develop it on you own
work space on your user page. NEVERTHELESS, I was so good at what I
did I was able to fight off the hordes of Science Psychos. :)"
Thank you for documenting that wiki is a public place not a one man
> assume one's ideas will be accepted willy nilly.
"I created it and made the first edit.
Since you are too stupid to figure who made the first edit in articles
on Wikipedia, here it is for you.
Wellness (alternative medicine): Revision history
earliest) View
08:49, 28 February 2005? John Gohde (talk | contribs)? . . (1,769
bytes)
http://tinyurl.com/8hmuc9n
I foolishly at the time developed this article live, which means it
could have been subjected to immediate attack by the Science Psychos
on Wikipedia.
Nevertheless, I had managed to come up with my final version at about:
01:13, 19 March 2005? John Gohde (talk | contribs)? . . (5,817 bytes)
http://tinyurl.com/9eh7w46
Since then, the current version has NOT changed very much at all.
The more intelligent way of creating alternative medicine related
articles on Wikipedia would have been to have develop it on you own
work space on your user page. NEVERTHELESS, I was so good at what I
did I was able to fight off the hordes of Science Psychos. :)"
personal ego space. Too bad your attempt was a dud. The page is plain
vanella fare, perhaps that is as it should be.
John H. Gohde
Sep 13, 2012, 11:05:43 AM9/13/12
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I simply am tired of repeating myself all the time, especially the
spiel about nobody owning what is on Wikipedia. Yeah, perhaps for
mortal man, but "The Man" figured out a way to get around that little
detail, not to mention the Wellness article having survived at least 3
attempts to delete it, nor it not having changed very much at all.
Just remember this, dud: I know more about Wikipedia than you do. I
guess that makes you a stupid ignoramus (with the accent mark on your
anus)? :)
Unknown
Sep 13, 2012, 11:59:25 AM9/13/12
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"I simply am tired of repeating myself all the time, especially the
spiel about nobody owning what is on Wikipedia. Yeah, perhaps for
mortal man, but "The Man" figured out a way to get around that little
detail, not to mention the Wellness article having survived at least 3
attempts to delete it, nor it not having changed very much at all."
fly and were corrected, and you whined aplenty about the bad, bad people
messing with your "work". Now no one cares.
John H. Gohde
Sep 13, 2012, 12:13:53 PM9/13/12
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Put your brain, where your mouth is. :)
John H. Gohde
Sep 14, 2012, 3:00:15 PM9/14/12
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On Sep 12, 10:44 pm, "John H. Gohde" <john.h.go...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Just a few days ago, I even managed to come up with my own definition
> > of health.
>
http://tinyurl.com/7uaf89n
>
> Health: "Good digestion is what makes health possible."
This is an operational definition, folks.
> > Just a few days ago, I even managed to come up with my own definition
> > of health.
>
http://tinyurl.com/7uaf89n
>
> Health: "Good digestion is what makes health possible."
It basically states that the end result of good digestion is health.
Health is nothing more, nor less than a state of good digestion.
Prove me wrong, Science Psychos. :)
Unknown
Sep 14, 2012, 4:28:10 PM9/14/12
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"http://tinyurl.com/..."
The tiny url url contraction service is used to disguise the web
destination.
The poster has bragged how much money he makes by inducing people to visit
his site and click through on links.
Unknown
Sep 14, 2012, 4:32:29 PM9/14/12
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> Health: "Good digestion is what makes health possible."
"This is an operational definition, folks.
It basically states that the end result of good digestion is health. Health
is nothing more, nor less than a state of good digestion.
Prove me wrong, Science Psychos. :)"
Good health is the result of a combination of biological processes. Proper
"This is an operational definition, folks.
It basically states that the end result of good digestion is health. Health
is nothing more, nor less than a state of good digestion.
Prove me wrong, Science Psychos. :)"
digestion is only one of them. The best digestion and exposure to tb is
not a combination one should coung on for not contracting tb, as one
example.
John H. Gohde
Sep 14, 2012, 5:19:42 PM9/14/12
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just plain "nuts" at worse.
Ha, ... hah, Ha! What a loser!
Unknown
Sep 14, 2012, 5:23:40 PM9/14/12
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> > Health: "Good digestion is what makes health possible."
>
> "This is an operational definition, folks.
>
> It basically states that the end result of good digestion is health.
Heal=
>
> "This is an operational definition, folks.
>
> It basically states that the end result of good digestion is health.
th
> is nothing more, nor less than a state of good digestion.
>
> Prove me wrong, Science Psychos. =A0:)"
> is nothing more, nor less than a state of good digestion.
>
>
> Good health is the result of a combination of biological processes.
=A0Pr=
> Good health is the result of a combination of biological processes.
oper
> digestion is only one of them. =A0The best digestion and exposure to tb
i=
s
> not a combination one should coung on for not contracting tb, as one
> example.
"NEVER heard of tb. Of course, you are delusional, ... at best, and just
plain "nuts" at worse."
The best digestion with a poor diet does not provide good health, for a
> not a combination one should coung on for not contracting tb, as one
> example.
"NEVER heard of tb. Of course, you are delusional, ... at best, and just
plain "nuts" at worse."
second example.
John H. Gohde
Sep 14, 2012, 5:59:46 PM9/14/12
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http://tinyurl.com/7uaf89n
Health: "Good digestion is what makes health possible."
"Good" health, nor "Wellness."
Eating a great diet, along with good digestion, results in "good
health," rather than health. All educated people agree on this.
You really need to get your facts straight.
There is:
- ill health,
- health,
- good health, and finally
- wellness.
Perhaps, if you were to focus?
John H. Gohde
Oct 23, 2012, 6:37:14 AM10/23/12
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On Oct 23, 12:56 am, Robert Miles <mile...@Usenet-News.net> wrote:
> On 9/15/2012 12:27 PM, John H. Gohde wrote:
> >>> digestion is only one of them. The best digestion and exposure to tb
> >> is
> >> health, for a third example.
>
> >> The best digestion and being sedentary does not produce good health, for a
> >> forth example.
>
> >> The best digestion and not attending to our medical needs does not provide
> >> good health, for a fith example.
>
> > Excuse me, but can you read English text and comprehend what is
> > actually written???
>
> > I am talking ONLY about a state of health, NOT the "good" health that
> > you keep insisting on. There is a big difference! The devil is in
> > the details. :(
>
> So people with poor digestion don't have any health, not even bad
> health?
The time limit for responding to posts in this THREAD has obviously
expired.
Go back to your coma, Science Psycho.
Read what I had posted, again. It is shocking just how stupid YOU
truly are, Geek!
> On 9/15/2012 12:27 PM, John H. Gohde wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 15, 1:19 pm, "pill popper" wrote:
> >>>> Health: "Good digestion is what makes health possible."
>
> >>> "This is an operational definition, folks.
>
> >>> It basically states that the end result of good digestion is health.
>
> >> Heal=
> >> th
>
> >>> is nothing more, nor less than a state of good digestion.
>
> >>> Prove me wrong, Science Psychos. =A0:)"
>
> >>> Good health is the result of a combination of biological processes.
> >> Proper
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 15, 1:19 pm, "pill popper" wrote:
> >>>> Health: "Good digestion is what makes health possible."
>
> >>> "This is an operational definition, folks.
>
> >>> It basically states that the end result of good digestion is health.
>
> >> Heal=
> >> th
>
> >>> is nothing more, nor less than a state of good digestion.
>
> >>> Prove me wrong, Science Psychos. =A0:)"
>
> >>> Good health is the result of a combination of biological processes.
> >>> digestion is only one of them. The best digestion and exposure to tb
> >> is
> >>> not a combination one should coung on for not contracting tb, as one
> >>> example.
>
> >> "NEVER heard of tb. Of course, you are delusional, ... at best, and just
> >> plain "nuts" at worse."
>
> >> The best digestion with a poor diet does not provide good health, for a
> >> second example.
>
> >> The best digestion and over consumption with obesity doesn't provide good
> >>> example.
>
> >> "NEVER heard of tb. Of course, you are delusional, ... at best, and just
> >> plain "nuts" at worse."
>
> >> The best digestion with a poor diet does not provide good health, for a
> >> second example.
>
> >> health, for a third example.
>
> >> The best digestion and being sedentary does not produce good health, for a
> >> forth example.
>
> >> The best digestion and not attending to our medical needs does not provide
> >> good health, for a fith example.
>
> > Excuse me, but can you read English text and comprehend what is
> > actually written???
>
> > I am talking ONLY about a state of health, NOT the "good" health that
> > you keep insisting on. There is a big difference! The devil is in
> > the details. :(
>
> So people with poor digestion don't have any health, not even bad
> health?
The time limit for responding to posts in this THREAD has obviously
expired.
Go back to your coma, Science Psycho.
Read what I had posted, again. It is shocking just how stupid YOU
truly are, Geek!
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