Can lemon really turn alkaline ?
Penang
posted in the wrong newgroup.
I need to find out the truth.
There are a lot of claims, on and off the Net, that lemon juice, when
drinked, can turned alkaline in the body.
If that claim is true, please help me understand how the citric acid
from lemon can turn into alkaline?
Thank you in advance for any and all help !
trigonometry1972@gmail.com |
Simple your body will "burn" the citric acid and it will be left
with the potassium and other minerals. Hence at the kidney
the effect will be alkaline. On ther other hand in the
esophagus and mouth the effect will indeed be acid,
cit...@fellow.com
> drinked, can turned alkaline in the body.
>
> If that claim is true, please help me understand how the citric acid
> from lemon can turn into alkaline?
"Simple your body will "burn" the citric acid and it will be left with
the potassium and other minerals. Hence at the kidney the effect will be
alkaline. On ther other hand in the esophagus and mouth the effect will
indeed be acid,"
"Burn", not exactly. Here is a more scientific discussion and the
reason the question is irrelevant in the first place.
Juhana Harju
> First of all, I humbly beg all your forgiveness if this message is
> posted in the wrong newgroup.
>
> I need to find out the truth.
>
> There are a lot of claims, on and off the Net, that lemon juice, when
> drinked, can turned alkaline in the body.
>
> If that claim is true, please help me understand how the citric acid
> from lemon can turn into alkaline?
That claim is true. The body uses citric acid as a precursor of bicarbonate,
which acts as an alkaline buffer in the body. This same applies to other
fruits and berries as well.
--
Juhana
b...@cs.toronto.edu
Note that the pH (acidity/alkalinity) of blood and tissue is regulated
by some fairly elaborate mechanisms to keep it steady. If it varies
significantly, you are in deep trouble. In fact, you're probably in
the emergency room.
The important point about the counterintuitive fact that citrus and
other fruits 'turn alkaline' in the body is that they tend to make urine
more alkaline. If you have a tendency to get urinary tract stones of a
type that form in alkaline urine, it can be helpful to try to keep the
pH of your urine down. For people without this or most kidney problems,
it's pretty much irrelevant.
I am not a doctor.
Juhana Harju
Well, it appears that you are not aware that one common effect of aging is
that the kidney function declines. As a result the tight regulation of
acid/alkaline balance does not work as well as in young people. Subclinical
low-grade metabolic acidosis starts to develop. The skeleton is very
sensitive to miniscule changes in pH, and when the blood becomes even
slightly more acidic it increases the resorption of bone as the skeleton
acts as a reservoir of alkalizing minerals. This subject has been studied in
recent years. I don't think that it is irrelevant.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19954569
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Juhana
Pramesh Rutaji
Taking sodium bicarbonate daily can mitigate this problem and in many
cases stop the progression of kidney disease. While not as much
research has been done, I switch somewhat to potassium bicarbonate even
though it is more expensive. Sodium bicarbonate can be purchased in
large quantities for little money and benefit per dollar spent is rather
high. Of course, one could eat a lot of low carb veggies and get the
bicarbonate that way.
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Pramesh Rutaji
p297ton...@newsguy.com - remove tongue to reply
Juhana Harju
> Taking sodium bicarbonate daily can mitigate this problem and in many
> cases stop the progression of kidney disease. While not as much
> research has been done, I switch somewhat to potassium bicarbonate
> even though it is more expensive. Sodium bicarbonate can be
> purchased in large quantities for little money and benefit per dollar
> spent is rather high. Of course, one could eat a lot of low carb
> veggies and get the bicarbonate that way.
Ramesh, taking potassium bicarbonate is not a bad solution at all. Do you
have any idea what would be the potassium bicarbonate dose in grams used in
this study? How is it calculated?
http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/jc.2008-1662v1
Do you have information from where to purchase potassium bicarbonate?
--
Juhana
Ron Peterson
> Ramesh, taking potassium bicarbonate is not a bad solution at all. Do you
> have any idea what would be the potassium bicarbonate dose in grams used in
> this study? How is it calculated?
> http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/jc.2008-1662v1
> Do you have information from where to purchase potassium bicarbonate?
Hain Featherweight baking powder is a good source.
--
Ron
Penang
I am not a doctor but I do need to caution those who seek alternatives
to Sodium that there are side effect on Potassium Bicarbonate too.
For example, info from this page (
http://www.mlive.com/living/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2009/10/low-sodium_baking_powder_fine.html
) which has the following:
"The ingredients in the zero-sodium baking powder are mono-calcium
phosphate, potato starch and potassium bicarbonate. The trade-off for
no sodium is every teaspoon of this baking powder has 500-600
milligrams potassium. That could be a problem for people with kidney
disease whose potassium is running high, or someone taking blood
pressure medicines that save potassium in the body"
As always, no matter it is sodium, calcium or potassium, please use it
moderately.
Hope this helps !
Penang
Oh btw, I found a "how to" page on sodium free baking :
http://www.ehow.com/how_2280798_powder-corn-free-baking-powder.html
trigonometry1972@gmail.com |
Beyond A Century .... One pound ~454 grams
Potassium Bicarbonate 12.00 US Dollars
Juhana Harju
Thanks to everyone. I agree that there is a need to be cautious in the
dosing.
--
Juhana
Ravintoblogini:
http://ruohikolla.blogspot.com/
Pramesh Rutaji
Potassium bicarbonate is used in wine making, so it can be purchased in
bulk. I found a VERY wide range in pricing when I last went looking. I
finally settled on this source for now:
BeyondACenturyOnline.com
http://www.easycart.net/BeyondACenturyInc./Minerals.html#3080
Potassium bicarbonate is about 39% potassium. In one study which the
above web site happens to refer to, 12 grams/day of the product was used
which provided 4.7 grams of potassium and 7.3 grams of bicarbonate. The
RDA for potassium is now 4.7 grams/day and the max is about 21.5
grams/day, roughly, depending on sources. Paleo man apparently got 11.5
grams/day from diet and I know I definitely don't get enough. When I
weighed and tracked all my foods for several months, I was only getting
2000-3000 mg/day of potassium plus 3000 mg/day as potassium citrate.
I'm now taking a mix of citrate and bicarbonate forms but most likely
which switch fully to the bicarbonate form over time.
How much potassium one gets would be the limiting factor on how much
potassium bicarbonate to take. I think the 12 grams/day is not a bad
target.
Ron Peterson
> "The ingredients in the zero-sodium baking powder are mono-calcium
> phosphate, potato starch and potassium bicarbonate. The trade-off for
> no sodium is every teaspoon of this baking powder has 500-600
> milligrams potassium. That could be a problem for people with kidney
> disease whose potassium is running high, or someone taking blood
> pressure medicines that save potassium in the body"
> As always, no matter it is sodium, calcium or potassium, please use it
> moderately.
A good idea. Low sodium baking powder isn't used in large quantities,
but the phosphate in it or conventional baking powder could be bad for
people with kidney problems. Colas, root beer, and Dr. Pepper (brown
sodas) are also high in phosphoric acid and shouldn't be used by those
with kidney problems.
--
Ron