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angela

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Oct 4, 2001, 9:11:47 AM10/4/01
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Hi there , I need help. I am a self confessed chocoholic and over the
past year I have gradually put on nearly 4 stones in weight.I keep
blaming this on the fact that I have just joined college and am less
active but really its because I can't just have one biscuit I have to
finish the packet and I totally demolish cakes, chocolate and crisps
all in one go. Therefore I am in desperate need of someone to give me
the right advice on an exercise and healthy eating programme.

John 'the Man'

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Oct 5, 2001, 11:53:45 AM10/5/01
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"angela" <angela...@excite.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Therefore I am in desperate need of someone to give me

> the right advice on an ... healthy eating programme.

Stop eating 3 times a day, before you are full or satisfied.

No snacks in between meals allowed!
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Suzanne

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Oct 6, 2001, 5:48:19 PM10/6/01
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> "angela" <angela...@excite.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:d0e8abe1.0110...@posting.google.com...
>
> > Therefore I am in desperate need of someone to give me
> > the right advice on an ... healthy eating programme.
>
> Stop eating 3 times a day, before you are full or satisfied.
>
> No snacks in between meals allowed!

What the heck does this mean?

Angela, you are eating a lot of useless calories by gorging on chocolate,
cookies and the like. You know this and it doesn't take a rocket scientist
to know that your body doesn't need these non-nutrients. If you're hungry,
eat. Don't eat because you're stressed. Cut out the junk food and increase
your activity level. That will make a difference.

HTH,

Suzanne

Quentin Grady

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Oct 6, 2001, 6:49:15 PM10/6/01
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On 4 Oct 2001 06:11:47 -0700, angela...@excite.co.uk (angela)
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>Hi there , I need help. I am a self confessed chocoholic and over the
>past year I have gradually put on nearly 4 stones in weight.

G'day G'day Angela,

Guess I am only about 50% or 60% more diabetic that you are.

Four stone is about 4 x 6.3 kg, say 25 kg.

I lost 20 kg after being diagnosed as a T2 diabetic.
Wish I had done it before.

Frankly I'd get the campus health clinic to arrange a HbA1c or other
diabetes test. Rapid weight gain is one indicator of the rapid onset
of T2 diabetes.

>I keep
>blaming this on the fact that I have just joined college and am less
>active but really its because I can't just have one biscuit I have to
>finish the packet and I totally demolish cakes, chocolate and crisps
>all in one go.

The cakes and chocolates are loaded with sucrose. Sucrose eventually
causes your liver to spew out fat instead of shutting down fat
production after meals. The after dinner spikes in freely circulating
fats eventually screw up the arteries and the pancreas. The insulin
sensitivity of muscles goes first then the adipose fats cells.
You might of course have heart attack before getting T2 diabetes.
Hard to tell.

The chocolate and crisps a excellent sources of trans fat ... the one
fat known to contribute to the incidence of T2 diabetes in women.

>Therefore I am in desperate need of someone to give me
>the right advice on an exercise and healthy eating programme.

I don't know. Are you desperate enough? That is the question.
I'm not to sure of the answer.

You probably just think I'm rude but I'm trying to save you life or
the quality of it before it is too late.

If you are at all serious check out the diets of people for who
diabetes and coronary heart attacks are not a problem.

The diet on Crete and Okinawa seems to work. If your liver has
switched to pouring out fats instead of shutting down fat production
after a meal you may have to adopt a more low carb approach.

Whatever, I see a lot of exercised in your future and very little
chocolate.

--
Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
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/ \ /\
"... and the blind dog was leading."

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John 'the Man'

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Oct 6, 2001, 11:17:39 PM10/6/01
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> > "angela" <angela...@excite.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:d0e8abe1.0110...@posting.google.com...
> >
> > > Therefore I am in desperate need of someone to give me
> > > the right advice on an ... healthy eating programme.
> >
> > Stop eating 3 times a day, before you are full or satisfied.
> >
> > No snacks in between meals allowed!
>
> What the heck does this mean?
>
> Angela, you are eating a lot of useless calories by gorging on chocolate,
> cookies and the like. You know this and it doesn't take a rocket scientist
> to know that your body doesn't need these non-nutrients. If you're
hungry,
> eat. Don't eat because you're stressed. Cut out the junk food and increase
> your activity level. That will make a difference.
>
> HTH,
>
> Suzanne

What the heck does this mean?

I know! Babble from a Mental Female. :-)

Quentin Grady

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Oct 6, 2001, 11:25:22 PM10/6/01
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>Hi there , I need help. I am a self confessed chocoholic and over the

G'day G'day Angela,

One of the best books I have come across that deals intelligently
with weight loss is Syndrome X by Jack Challem, Burton Berkson and
Melissa Diane Smith. You should find it in the University library or
via interloan. ISBN 047135835-5 The internet bookstores like Amazon
sell copies.

Another book worth tracking down is The Goddess Diet by Larrian
Gillespie. She has a companion volume for guys and the women who love
them called The Gladiator Diet. She is one smart cookie and pretty
straight up on matters relating to diet and hormone balance. She has a
website you could use to buy a copy at a slight discount.

If all else fails you are welcome to read the diet I cobbled together
for myself. There is a version I wrote out for a woman who used it to
lose 38 kg plus in about a year and have kept it off. It was a tough
ask since they utterly refused to go to a gym. There is however one
major difference. She had put on weight over many years without any
ill health. It is significant that you are young and have put on
weight rapidly. IMHO that means it would be smart to get some basic
health checks performed and to get all the medical supervision you
can.

Sam

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Oct 9, 2001, 12:43:48 PM10/9/01
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Hi there,

The best healthy nutritional program would be the American Food Guide
Pyramid, which is an outline of what to eat each day, it calls for eating a
variety of foods to get the nutrients you need and at the same time the
right amount of calories to maintain a healthy wait. In this guide it is
advised to eat at least the three main meals plus two other snacks that
should be within a fruits or vegetables group. However the FGP does not ask
you to stop eat Pasta for example, where the bread, cereal, rice, and pasta
group should constitutes 6-11 servings per day within the three main meals.
If you need more information on the FGP please dont hesitate to reply...

Sam


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Alec

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Oct 9, 2001, 11:11:31 AM10/9/01
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> Hi there,
>
> The best healthy nutritional program would be the American Food Guide
> Pyramid.

Ha, ha, ha, ha. That is a good one. Thanks, I needed a good laugh! Got any more
good jokes?

Sam

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Oct 11, 2001, 10:04:48 PM10/11/01
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No problem....enjoy it


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Alec

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Oct 12, 2001, 12:33:28 AM10/12/01
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Nobody buys that USDA crap anymore. Not even most doctors. Research by
Harvard Medical School and Harvard’s School of Public Health has shown that
it is bad advice.
The whole food pyramid is a scam and that was found true by a federal judge
last year who basically ruled it was more a political and industry pay off
and had nothing to do with nutrition or science.

This statement from Cereal Foods the largest independent grain processor
says it all:

"Because we fully recognize that the success of Cereal Foods is dependent
on the success of the baking industry and breadstuffs in general, we are
active in assisting organizations such as the Wheat Foods Council in
promoting the U.S.D.A. Food Guide Pyramid. If Americans ate just the
minimum of six servings as recommended in the pyramid graphic, an
additional $7 billion in wholesale baked goods would be realized. Cereal
Food Processors believes in making this possibility a reality."

Sorry, but 6 to 11 servings of baked goods a day is the fast track to
obesity and diabetes. In the 10 years since this food guide pyramid came
out the average adult weighs 10 pounds more. The rate of type 2 diabetes
has nearly doubled. But not to admit that it might be just a little too
heavy of the breads and grains the USDA is trying to blame the internet on
weight gain.
And please don't forget: Most commercial baked goods contain partially
hydrogenated oils, which are trans fatty acids. Much worse for you than
saturated fats they replaced.

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John 'the Man'

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Oct 17, 2001, 3:24:27 PM10/17/01
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"Sam" <s_ma...@hotmail.com> wrote ...

> I agree with you on the correlation between obesity and baked goods (6-11
> servings a day).
> ...Although I thought that it is illogical to eat for example
> 6-11 servings a day of baked food, but I was assured that the USDA was
> developed after an extensive research through many years.

6-11 servings a day of baked food????

The USDA Food Guide Pyramid diet does NOT recommend that.

One of the problems with the USDA diet is that they grossly over estimated
the intelligence and reading skills of the American public. Mention the
term 'Cereal' and the average American thinks that you are talking about
'Corn Flakes.' :-)

Refer to a 'Bread Food Group' and some idiot thinks they are talking about
6-11 servings a day of baked food!!! :-)

There are some things wrong with the USDA Food Guide Pyramid diet, however.
I discuss these problems in detail at:
http://food.naturalhealthperspective.com/dgnotes.html

Alec

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Oct 19, 2001, 10:45:50 PM10/19/01
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> "Sam" <s_ma...@hotmail.com> wrote ...
>
> > I agree with you on the correlation between obesity and baked goods
(6-11
> > servings a day).
> > ...Although I thought that it is illogical to eat for example
> > 6-11 servings a day of baked food, but I was assured that the USDA was
> > developed after an extensive research through many years.
>
> 6-11 servings a day of baked food????


"Bake Food" is a quote from a grain processor web site that says they are
actively promoting the Food Pyramid because if people consumed just the
minimum 6 servings a day would be a $7 billion a year increase for the
commericial baking industry. The food pyramid is obviously overloaded
with carbohydrates.


John 'the Man'

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Oct 21, 2001, 6:38:09 AM10/21/01
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The world is obviously overloaded with idiots!


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John Amero

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Oct 22, 2001, 5:24:42 AM10/22/01
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Well, just don't sit there, John -- shoot yourself -- that
will eliminate one!
Cheers,
John

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angela

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Oct 25, 2001, 9:06:43 AM10/25/01
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Hi there it's angela again, sorry I haven't been available over the
past couple of weeks to answer all the interesting replies to my
message. I must admit I really enjoyed reading all the varied replies
and I will take SOME of the advise I have been given with great
thought.I know a lot of you out there will probably think, what is she
all about, does she not know that to lose weight you have to eat less
and exercise more. Well of course I did, but I just wondered if anyone
knew of any miracle diets that allowed great consumptions of
chocolate.

THANK YOU ALL AGAIN
I WILL KEEP IN TOUCH
BYE
ANGELA.

John 'the Man'

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Oct 25, 2001, 9:58:11 AM10/25/01
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"angela" <angela...@excite.co.uk> wrote ...

May I make the NOT so novel suggestion that 'Losing Weight' and 'Healthy
Eating' are two entirely different subject areas?

And, that this separation approaches infinity once the amount of weight
needed to be lost is in the 100+ pounds area?

Just my two cents worth!


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