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JOHN  
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(1 user)  More options Apr 19, 3:32 am
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From: "JOHN" <j...@nospam.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 08:32:19 +0100
Local: Sat, Apr 19 2008 3:32 am
Subject: MMR/AUTISM - THE TAMING OF THE BRITISH MEDIA
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/clifford.g.miller/mediataming.htm

MMR/AUTISM - THE TAMING OF THE BRITISH MEDIA

Here is a story of:-

how autism is given to millions children worldwide by an out of control drug
industry and equally out of control governments and medical establishments
the media being silenced

the health agenda being hijacked by industry and commerce funded lobby
groups, leaving parents without warning and the dangers to their children
and child health safety going unreported - so starting and continuing
avoidable nightmares for the unlucky many families around the world


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HCN  
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(1 user)  More options Apr 19, 9:32 pm
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From: "HCN" <h...@nospam.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 18:32:24 -0700
Local: Sat, Apr 19 2008 9:32 pm
Subject: Re: MMR/AUTISM - THE TAMING OF THE BRITISH MEDIA

"JOHN" <j...@nospam.com> wrote in message

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The MMR has been in use since 1971.  Did austism become prevelent then?

Just post the PubMed indexed articles... random webpages are not real
evidence.


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From: "Brian Gaff" <Bria...@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 04:43:14 GMT
Local: Sun, Apr 20 2008 12:43 am
Subject: Re: MMR/AUTISM - THE TAMING OF THE BRITISH MEDIA
Yes I thought this a bit one sided. Besides, I heard a long item about this
on a station only a couple of weeks ago, and it seemed it was far from a
silent media. The facts seem to be that as you say, its been in use for many
years, so if this is even partly true, what has changed?
Is there an environmental factor nobody has found yet.
No I agree that certain drug companies are discriminating when it comes to
what they release, but its human nature, and out in the real world you could
not surely hide the effects if what has been claimed was true.

All substances  have other effects to those desired but its  a judgement
call as to whether is serious or not, or even if its provable. Who is going
to risk children in a trial when not to  inoculate is risking epidemic. OK
you say, give them the single  versions, but does this cause any less
problems?
Brian

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(1 user)  More options Apr 20, 3:36 am
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From: "HCN" <h...@nospam.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 00:36:27 -0700
Local: Sun, Apr 20 2008 3:36 am
Subject: Re: MMR/AUTISM - THE TAMING OF THE BRITISH MEDIA

"Brian Gaff" <Bria...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message

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> Yes I thought this a bit one sided. Besides, I heard a long item about
> this on a station only a couple of weeks ago, and it seemed it was far
> from a silent media. The facts seem to be that as you say, its been in use
> for many years, so if this is even partly true, what has changed?

It changed because the UK decided to dump its vaccine that had a cruddy
mumps component (Urabe strain), for the MMR vaccine that was approved in the
USA in 1971 (using the Jeryl Lynn mumps strain) in 1988.

Then some lawyer found a doctor willing to do "research" to come up with
specific results to support a lawsuit.  That doctor was a gastroenterologist
who had no clinical experience with children.  The doctor did not reveal
this very significant funding fact when he published a paper in the Lancet.
He also neglected to change the data when one person testing for measles
viruses from tissue invasively retrieved from a dozen children (provided by
the lawyer, since they were party to the lawsuit) found the PCR results were
useless.  One of the children whose intestines were scoped for tissue now
has lifelong health problems because his intestines were perforated in 12
places!

Read the summary here:
http://briandeer.com/mmr/lancet-summary.htm

> Is there an environmental factor nobody has found yet.
> No I agree that certain drug companies are discriminating when it comes to
> what they release, but its human nature, and out in the real world you
> could not surely hide the effects if what has been claimed was true.

> All substances  have other effects to those desired but its  a judgement
> call as to whether is serious or not, or even if its provable. Who is
> going to risk children in a trial when not to  inoculate is risking
> epidemic. OK you say, give them the single  versions, but does this cause
> any less problems?

No it does not cause less problems.  There is no evidence to suggest that
giving kids three times as many jabs is any safer.


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JOHN  
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From: "JOHN" <j...@nospam.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:12:08 +0100
Local: Sun, Apr 20 2008 11:12 am
Subject: Re: MMR/AUTISM - THE TAMING OF THE BRITISH MEDIA

"HCN" <h...@nospam.com> wrote in message

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Get the real story http://whale.to/v/gmc_wakefield.html

Horton just been caught lying, as was Zuckerman.

"the person who commissioned Deer was Paul Nuki, Sunday Times' sometime Head
of Newsroom investigations and "Focus" editor. Paul Nuki is son of Professor
George Nuki. Professor George Nuki in 1987 sat on the Committee on Safety of
Medicines when the CSM was considering Glaxo company Smith Kline & French
Laboratories' Pluserix MMR vaccine for safety approval."


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From: "HCN" <h...@nospam.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 08:58:44 -0700
Local: Sun, Apr 20 2008 11:58 am
Subject: Re: MMR/AUTISM - THE TAMING OF THE BRITISH MEDIA

"JOHN" <j...@nospam.com> wrote in message

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> "HCN" <h...@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:Ko-dnZlKSbvmb5fVnZ2dnUVZ_sOrnZ2d@comcast.com...

>> Read the summary here:
>> http://briandeer.com/mmr/lancet-summary.htm

> Get the real story http://whale.to/v/gmc_wakefield.html

> Horton just been caught lying, as was Zuckerman.

And Wakefield has been lying all the time.

Still doesn't change the fact that the MMR has been around since 1971, and
it only became an issue after a lawyer decided to pay for specific research
to bolster a now failed lawsuit.


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From: "JOHN" <j...@nospam.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:13:55 +0100
Local: Sun, Apr 20 2008 12:13 pm
Subject: Re: MMR/AUTISM - THE TAMING OF THE BRITISH MEDIA

"HCN" <h...@nospam.com> wrote in message

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> It changed because the UK decided to dump its vaccine that had a cruddy
> mumps component (Urabe strain), for the MMR vaccine that was approved in
> the USA in 1971 (using the Jeryl Lynn mumps strain) in 1988.

That was 2 YEARS after they knew it was dangerous
http://whale.to/vaccine/mmr15.html

And still being sold to third world countries

These are the same people who npretend they care about Wakefields ethics.

And at least 3 of the people involved with approving Plusarix are connected
to the persection of wakefield


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From: "JOHN" <j...@nospam.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:09:25 +0100
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Subject: Re: MMR/AUTISM - THE TAMING OF THE BRITISH MEDIA

"HCN" <h...@nospam.com> wrote in message

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> Still doesn't change the fact that the MMR has been around since 1971, and
> it only became an issue after a lawyer decided to pay for specific
> research to bolster a now failed lawsuit.

MMR just uped the numbers

In your dreams http://whale.to/vaccine/ayoub_v.html

http://whale.to/vaccines/vax_autism_q.html


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From: "HCN" <h...@nospam.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:38:55 -0700
Local: Sun, Apr 20 2008 10:38 pm
Subject: Re: MMR/AUTISM - THE TAMING OF THE BRITISH MEDIA

"JOHN" <j...@nospam.com> wrote in message

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> "HCN" <h...@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:Ko-dnZlKSbvmb5fVnZ2dnUVZ_sOrnZ2d@comcast.com...

>> It changed because the UK decided to dump its vaccine that had a cruddy
>> mumps component (Urabe strain), for the MMR vaccine that was approved in
>> the USA in 1971 (using the Jeryl Lynn mumps strain) in 1988.

> That was 2 YEARS after they knew it was dangerous
> http://whale.to/vaccine/mmr15.html

So the satanic lines made you calculate that there were only two years
between 1971 and 1988?

(and no, I am only going to the whale.to website if I am really bored, it is
a silly place)


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From: "HCN" <h...@nospam.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:39:46 -0700
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Subject: Re: MMR/AUTISM - THE TAMING OF THE BRITISH MEDIA

"JOHN" <j...@nospam.com> wrote in message

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> "HCN" <h...@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:m-idnW7SAaKv9ZbVnZ2dnUVZ_uKpnZ2d@comcast.com...

>> Still doesn't change the fact that the MMR has been around since 1971,
>> and it only became an issue after a lawyer decided to pay for specific
>> research to bolster a now failed lawsuit.

> MMR just uped the numbers

> In your dreams http://whale.to/vaccine/ayoub_v.html

Oh, yeah... the guy who believes in the Illuminati.  Oh, wait... the satanic
lines told you they exist!