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Lies Exposed At The UK MMR Vaccine Trial Court By Jane Bryant

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JOHN

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Apr 11, 2008, 1:11:10 PM4/11/08
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HCN

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Apr 12, 2008, 1:48:19 AM4/12/08
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"JOHN" <jo...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> http://whale.to/b/mary_jane_adventures.html
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Is this the one where Wakers reveals that he had no clue as to what
pediatric research ethics actually involved?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7342618.stm

"The doctor who controversially linked the MMR vaccine to autism has
admitted a poor grasp of the medical ethics surrounding work on children. "


Peter Bowditch

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Apr 12, 2008, 2:49:56 AM4/12/08
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"HCN" <h...@nospam.com> wrote:

"Poor grasp" doesn't quite describe his corruption, does it? Actually,
I think that he has a very good grasp of medical ethics but doesn't
believe that they apply to him.

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D. C. Sessions

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Apr 12, 2008, 9:42:11 AM4/12/08
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In message <dpm004h84mpk380o8...@4ax.com>, Peter Bowditch wrote:
> "HCN" <h...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>"JOHN" <jo...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>news:Q-idna-gjt4...@bt.com...

>>> http://whale.to/b/mary_jane_adventures.html
>>
>>Is this the one where Wakers reveals that he had no clue as to what
>>pediatric research ethics actually involved?
>>
>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7342618.stm
>>
>>"The doctor who controversially linked the MMR vaccine to autism has
>>admitted a poor grasp of the medical ethics surrounding work on children. "
>
> "Poor grasp" doesn't quite describe his corruption, does it? Actually,
> I think that he has a very good grasp of medical ethics but doesn't
> believe that they apply to him.

Both statements are rather speculative, don't you think?
Mind-reading is not a precise science.

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JOHN

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Apr 13, 2008, 4:32:12 PM4/13/08
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"HCN" <h...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> "The doctor who controversially linked the MMR vaccine to autism has
> admitted a poor grasp of the medical ethics surrounding work on children.
> "

Spin, he wasn't in charge of the ethics side, and you can tell it is
propaganda as no parent has complained, they all support him 100%, and no
other doctor will help these kids

they had to pay a journo to make a complaint

bit rich talking about ethics when Big Pharma kills a few million every
year+

"Most Astonishing Health Disaster of the 20th Century. For over 100 years
conventional medicine has seized control of the US health care system and as
a result we have over 800,000 people who are killed by interacting with this
system. It is likely that over 50 million Americans have died prematurely
from this abuse." http://whale.to/a/dean.html

and they care about his ethics! My arse! Just an exercise in stopping
medical dissent

HCN

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Apr 13, 2008, 7:48:47 PM4/13/08
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"JOHN" <jo...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> "HCN" <h...@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:ZvSdnUiw2eG20J3V...@comcast.com...
>
>>
>> "The doctor who controversially linked the MMR vaccine to autism has
>> admitted a poor grasp of the medical ethics surrounding work on children.
>> "
>
> Spin, he wasn't in charge of the ethics side, and you can tell it is
> propaganda as no parent has complained, they all support him 100%, and no
> other doctor will help these kids
>
> they had to pay a journo to make a complaint
>
> bit rich talking about ethics when Big Pharma kills a few million every
> year+


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/healthmain.html?in_article_id=500611&in_page_id=1774

£500,000 for boy left fighting for life after being used as MMR guinea pig

Mark Probert

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Apr 14, 2008, 8:54:21 AM4/14/08
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On Apr 13, 4:32 pm, "JOHN" <j...@nospam.com> wrote:

> and they care about his ethics!  My arse!  Just an exercise in stopping
> medical dissent

So much for John's ethics.

D. C. Sessions

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Apr 14, 2008, 10:10:42 AM4/14/08
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That's a little harsh. His ethics really aren't on the
table since he's not actually practicing. If he sees
a Great Evil being practiced (vaccination) and a Hero
who takes it on, there's no requirement for the Hero
to be unflawed. It may be a bit one-dimensional to
think that anyone opposing a Hero is necessarily in
league with the Great Evil, but that's not a failure
of ethics /per/ /se/ -- more like bad scriptwriting.

Jan Drew

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Apr 14, 2008, 11:50:16 PM4/14/08
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"Mark Probert" <mark.p...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Apr 13, 4:32 pm, "JOHN" <j...@nospam.com> wrote:


"JOHN" <jo...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> and they care about his ethics! My arse! Just an exercise in stopping
> medical dissent

So much for John's ethics.

So much for Mark S Probert trimming the post to change the meaning.

JOHN

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Apr 15, 2008, 9:32:43 AM4/15/08
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"HCN" <h...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/healthmain.html?in_article_id=500611&in_page_id=1774
>
> £500,000 for boy left fighting for life after being used as MMR guinea pig
>
>

Caused by MMR


HCN

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Apr 15, 2008, 10:14:34 AM4/15/08
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"JOHN" <jo...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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You idiot! Perforations of the colon by poking around in it is not caused
by the vaccine.

"Jack Piper, then five, was left battling for life after the procedure,
which his parents claim was carried out to establish links between his
condition and bowel problems.

His bowel was perforated in more than 12 places during surgery at the Royal
Free Hospital in North London."

It was caused by invasive surgery for no good reason.

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>
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JOHN

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Apr 15, 2008, 10:50:25 AM4/15/08
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"HCN" <h...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> bowel problems.

http://whale.to/a/bowel.html


D. C. Sessions

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Apr 15, 2008, 11:22:59 AM4/15/08
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>> bowel problems.
>
> http://whale.to/a/bowel.html

John? The bowel problems were speculative at that
point. The autism was the diagnosis, the surgery
was to *find* bowel problems -- not *cause* them.

D. C. Sessions

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Apr 15, 2008, 11:20:51 AM4/15/08
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In message <E-udncJk8L3QJZnV...@comcast.com>, HCN wrote:

> His bowel was perforated in more than 12 places during surgery at the Royal
> Free Hospital in North London."
>
> It was caused by invasive surgery for no good reason.

You're not going to get anywhere with this.
As with broken skulls, burns, etc. the perforations
were caused by the vaccine and just turned up during
surgery.

Jan Drew

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Apr 15, 2008, 9:41:05 PM4/15/08
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