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Oh yeah: upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation.

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magruder

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magruder wrote:
> http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew%2023&version=31

I pray for you soul, you lost sheep. My lord Satan says he can only
save you.

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... and what could possibly becausing a high removal rate in that
state?

Could it be this?

http://www.state.ia.us/government/odcp/docs/MethFreeParentsSafeKidsProposaFinalDec05.pdf

... As long as children continue to live in homes where meth or
ice-meth is consumed, their health and safety is in jeopardy. In 2004,
DHS reported 1,713 cases of child abuse involving the presence of
illegal drugs in the child's body. Nearly half of the children on
caseloads in the 16-county DHS
Council Bluffs Service Area come from homes where the parents have been
involved in meth, and
about 85% of all child removals in Polk County are the result of cases
involving meth. It is in response to this threat to Iowa's children,
the breakdown of families, and the exploding criminal justice and child
welfare systems costs that the Drug Policy Advisory Council,
established by law to make drug policy recommendations, proposes a
comprehensive plan to reduce drug demand, and in particular to help
meth-addicted parents and caregivers enmeshed in the criminal justice
and/or child welfare systems overcome their addiction. ...

Or maybe this:

http://www.pcaiowa.org/homicide_iowa_children.html

... Perpetrators of Young Child Homicides, 1995-2004

[[[ 91 child homicide victims total ]]]


Perpetrators No. of Victims

Father 30

Mother's
male paramour 24

Mother 18

Sitter/child
care provider 8

Stepfather 2

Other relative 2

Stepmother 1

Foster father 1

Adoptive mother 1

Friend 1

Undetermined 4 ....

2. Selecting caretakers. Every CDRT report has addressed the risk to
children from male paramours or other unrelated caretakers, insisting
that, "Mothers should be cautioned about careful selection of
individuals who care for their children, most especially paramours"
(December 2005 report, page 25). Reports have noted that local police
departments have criminal history reports; Iowa criminal records are
also available online at http://www.iowacourtsonline.org ...

Could that above have anything to do with the removal rate? Large
number of paramours?

Maybe this would help explain the high removal rate:

http://www.fightcrime.org/reports/iafostercare.pdf

... Thousands of children in Iowa have been abused or neglected so
severely that they have had to be removed from their homes. As 2003
ended, there were 5,000 children living in foster homes in Iowa, and
abuse and neglect soared to record levels with almost 15,000 confirmed
victims - up from 12,295 the year before. The number of children with
illegal drugs in their bodies because of the actions of their parents
or caretakers skyrocketed from 397 in 2002 to 1,167 in 2003.
Law enforcement leaders and crime victims know that safe foster homes
and services are essential if abused or neglected children are to heal
and grow up to be productive citizens. Safe foster homes are also
necessary to protect others in Iowa from future crime, because research
shows that almost four out of 10 of the children who are re-abused or
neglected rather than put in safe foster homes will become violent
criminals. ...

... Philadelphia,"The
percentage of young foster children estimated
to have been prenatally exposed to cocaine
increased significantly, from 17 percent in 1986
to 55 percent in 1991."18 Luckily the crack
epidemic has crested and is subsiding
everywhere, but the U.S. Drug Enforcement
Administration (DEA) reports that,"Cocaine
continues to be readily available throughout
Iowa."19 In addition, methamphetamine use is
now surging in Iowa. The National Institutes of
Health reports that, while methamphetamine
use was initially concentrated in America's west
and southwest,"methamphetamine abuse also
is continuing to spread eastward to urban,
suburban, and rural areas at a pace unrivaled
by any other drug in recent times."20
In a January 27th, 2005 article titled
"Methamphetamine scourge sweeps rural
America,"the Reuters news agency reported: ...

... Iowa has been impacted tremendously by the
upsurge in methamphetamine use. The DEA
reports on its website that methamphetamine
lab seizures in Iowa have shot up from 283 in
2000 to 1,240 in 2003.23 This has also been a
growing tragedy for the children of the addicts.
Prevent Child Abuse Iowa reports that among
the number of children who are abused or
neglected because their parents are addicted to
drugs, there are 1,167 children who tested
positive in 2003 for the presence of illegal
drugs in their own bodies as a result of the
actions of their parents and 353 children who
were living in homes where drugs were
manufactured.24 ...

Apparently some posters here don't follow the local news very well, or
they'd have the answer themselves.

Shall I go on? Yes, I think I will --- BECAUSE OF DELIBERATE
MISINFORMATION POSTED BY A PERSON IN THIS VERY NEWSGROUP-- here's the
truth about that "three times more children removed in Iowa than the
national average :

... 2. Determining that more abused or
neglected children need foster care
Almost 15,000 children were confirmed
victims of abuse or neglect in 2003, up from
12,295 in 2002.33 The public may typically be
unaware that the vast majority of abused or
neglected children stay with their families.
Only 13.4 percent, or 1,641 children were
removed even temporarily from their homes in
Iowa in 2002.34 That compares to a national
rate of 19 percent of victims removed from
their homes. Sixteen states remove 25 percent
or more of their abused or neglected victims
from their homes.35 ...

So you see, it's actually about one third LOWER than the national
average. Do you suppose or happy poster could have gotten his
information topsyturvy?

Forgive me if I drone on and bore you, but education with FACTS is so
very important if one is to make valid claims related to improving CPS
performance, everywhere.

http://www.aphsa.org/Policy/Doc/Testimony_MaryNelson012804.pdf

... Core Work of the Iowa Child Welfare System. Addressing child
protective concerns resulting from parental use and/or manufacture of
methamphetamines has become a significant part of the work of the Iowa
Department of Human Services (DHS) and its community partners. Recent
studies of Iowa's child protective caseloads in the southwest region,
for example, have revealed that one-third of child protective
investigations conducted involved methamphetamines; one in four cases
referred to child protection for assessment were referred specifically
due to parental meth involvement; and 49 percent, almost half, of the
children in ongoing caseloads in the Council Bluffs Service Area come
from homes where caretakers have been or are involved with meth. The
prevalence is even higher in some counties. ...

Remember the infamous audit that "all states failed?"

Here's the Iowa result:

... A key finding of the Iowa CFSR was that Iowa is in substantial
conformity with two of the seven outcomes and three of the seven
systemic factors. With regard to the outcomes, Iowa achieved
substantial conformity with Safety Outcome 2 (Children are safely
maintained in their homes whenever possible and appropriate) ...

That's not Iowa talking, that's the Feds numbers being recited.

Then weirdly enough, even quoting across agencies reveals this:

http://purchasingresults.iowa.gov/offer.aspx?offer_id=595_JUS_009

.. A primary concern of DNE continues to be the safety of children who
are exposed to the dangers of drug production and use. The DNE
currently participates in the Drug Endangered Children program,
providing education, training, enforcement, charging and testimonial
assistance to prosecute offenders and the safe removal of children from
drug endangered homes. The Department of Human Services has reported
that in 2004, fully 23% (353 children) of all child abuse cases
involved children who were present while their caretaker(s) were
involved in the manufacture of meth and that in 7.8% (1,167) of all
confirmed child abuse cases the abused child had the presence of
illegal drugs in their body.

In the years 2002, 2003 and 2004, 982 Iowa children were discovered to
be residing in meth labs. Data collected by DHS indicates that from the
year 2002 to 2003 the number of Iowa children that were confirmed
abused on the basis of drug-exposure nearly tripled.

Unfortunately, meth manufactured locally in clandestine meth labs
represents only a small portion of the meth problem in Iowa.
Implementation of meth control legislation has resulted in substantial
reductions in the number of meth lab seizures in Iowa. This reduction,
while extraordinary, does not protect children from the ravages of
meth. Large quantities of meth are imported into the state, and other
controlled substances, such as cocaine and heroin, continue to impact
the lives and families of users. A criminal justice system
over-burdened with a disturbing rate of drug convictions coupled with a
rising number of terminations of parental rights in which the
underlying problem is substance abuse makes a compelling case for a
strong response to the problem of drug addiction in Iowa. ...

Naw, obviously I'm just hyping meth here, right boys?

Kane

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