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 More options Jul 24 2005, 9:34 am
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From: "kathleen" <kathleen.dick...@snet.net>
Date: 24 Jul 2005 06:34:43 -0700
Local: Sun, Jul 24 2005 9:34 am
Subject: Countering "counterterrorism"
Here's an interesting thought.

If the USDOJ dot guv is in collusion (US Attorney Kevin O'COnnor
and John G. Rowland) with the NeoCons who believe in belligerence and
pre-emptive "Defence," and the USDOJ believes that it is proper to
defend the Yale criminals by inventing other people's crimes and
slamming them away forever for saying they are innocent, (which was
part of the entire plan), then everyone opposed to such abuses of
power can become a "terrorist" and jam the DOJ/FBI's email searches
with keywords like:

Unibomber
chemist
ammonium nitrate
subversive
bomb
Yale
command
operation
mail

Create several email addresses.  Give all of
them 950 Pennsylvania Ave NW 20530 as your address.

or, 157 Church Street, New Haven, 06510

I was falsely accused of being "a dangerously
intelligent chemist," "like Ted Kaszinski," who
has "command hallucinations to kill."

This was invented for me at my DCF "trial."

Then I was crminally charged with that, and not
allowed access to the courts, since a Yale
"psychiatrist" determined I was insane to be
saying I was innocent.

Tough to figure out.
=============================================

Silicon Spooks: Government Spying on the Internet
- By Shawn Ewald ©, 2002 (repost here in August, 2004)

NSA's Echelon Surveillance Network In a new novel, Digital Fortress by
Dan Brown, the National Security Agency (NSA) has built a code-breaking
supercomputer called TRANSLTR that can crack any cryptographic cipher
in a matter of seconds. Ostensibly, the purpose of this computer is to
monitor the encrypted communications of terrorist groups, but the
designer of this supercomputer recognizes the danger presented to the
privacy of ordinary citizens by his creation and invents an unbreakable
code called Digital Fortress. He threatens that, if the NSA does not
make the existence of TRANSLTR publicly known, he will distribute
Digital Fortress on the Internet.

Unfortunately, only in novels, I suspect, do NSA employees have
consciences, much less concern for the privacy of Jane Q. Citizen.
Fortunately, only in novels does the NSA have a computer that can crack
codes in seconds - even the world's most powerful supercomputer, the
Intel Paragon, would take a bit longer than a few seconds to crack a
message by brute force that was encrypted with PGP (Pretty Good
Privacy, a freely available encryption program that runs on PCs and
Macs).

However, the NSA does indeed monitor all Internet communication, just
as it monitors all telephone, radio, and satellite communication, and,
therefore, our collective right to privacy is routinely violated by the
Government without our knowledge.

But what is different about the NSA's activity on the Internet has to
do with the Internet itself and the public's understanding of it. The
Internet is inherently open and insecure, which makes it incredibly
easy to monitor and intercept communication traffic like e-mail
messages, for instance. Furthermore, the majority of the American
public is largely unaware of how insecure the Internet really is - it
is interesting that, thanks largely to the mainstream media's
successful manufacturing of Internet paranoia, technophobic or computer
illiterate people are more conscious of this aspect of the Internet
than many people who use the Internet regularly. Most people have heard
about government agencies tapping phone lines or even steaming open
paper mail, but it seems that most people are not aware of the
government's routine monitoring of Internet communication traffic,
particularly e-mail traffic. This ignorance is dangerous for a society
that has become almost wholly dependent on electronic mediums of
communication.

The NSA's surveillance of Internet communication began at the early
stages of the Internet's development when it was still populated only
by government employees, university researchers, and government
contractors. Many people involved with the early Internet (known then
as ARPANet) were aware of this surveillance. In fact, Richard Stallman,
an MIT computer scientist who was then involved with the ARPANet (and
later would found the Free Software Foundation), added an optional
feature to a text editor/e-mail client that he had created called
EMACS; the purpose of this feature was to undermine the NSA's
surveillance efforts. The optional feature added randomly selected
keywords at the end of an e-mail message composed in EMACS; these
keywords (i.e. revolution, terrorist, etc.) he believed would trigger
interception by the NSA computers and, hopefully, if enough people made
use of this feature, clog the NSA's computers with irrelevant e-mail.

In former New Zealand intelligence agent Nicky Hager's book Secret
Power, one discovers that the NSA's surveillance capabilities are not
hindered by political borders. Under the code-name ECHELON, and with
the help of the British, Australian, New Zealand and Canadian
Governments, the NSA has established a global communication
surveillance network that is capable of monitoring most of the world's
electronic communication.

The ECHELON system was created by the NSA as a means to interconnect
surveillance systems that had existed in these countries since WWII,
and to put these foreign surveillance operations under the control of
the NSA. What ECHELON became was an international network of computer
systems, each intercepting all fax, telex, e-mail and satellite
communications in their region of the world. The intercepted
communications are scanned with "dictionary" programs for certain
keywords; these dictionaries not only contain keywords of interest to
the intercepting agency, but also keywords that are of interest to the
other intelligence agencies around the world involved in the ECHELON
network. If the intercepted message contains a matching keyword, it is
immediately passed on to the headquarters of the agency concerned.

Given this massive technological arsenal, how can citizens protect
their privacy on the Internet? There is one method that has proven to
be an effective monkey wrench in the Government's efficient
surveillance machine, and that is strong encryption. Despite the claims
of fiction writers, there is no such thing as an unbreakable code or
uncrackable encryption, but what good encryption can ensure is that if
someone wants to snoop on your e-mail communications they are going to
have to put a good deal of effort into it. Cracking encrypted
electronic communications is the labor-intensive equivalent of steaming
open envelopes, whereas intercepting and reading unencrypted mail is as
easy as reading the back of a postcard. Not surprisingly, the FBI and
NSA have asked Congress to outlaw strong encryption. We as citizens
should be fighting their efforts every step of the way.

In the documentation for PGP, the program's author, Phil Zimmermann,
poses the following to users who may be skeptical about the need for
publicly available strong encryption programs:

    "Perhaps you think your E-mail is legitimate enough that
encryption is unwarranted. If you really are a law-abiding citizen with
nothing to hide, then why don't you always send your paper mail on
postcards? Why not submit to drug testing on demand? Why require a
warrant for police searches of your house? Are you trying to hide
something? You must be a subversive or a drug dealer if you hide your
mail inside envelopes. Or maybe a paranoid nut. Do law-abiding citizens
have any need to encrypt their E-mail?"

The answer is obvious, of course they do. In the next issue I'll
demonstrate how to use PGP (still the best personal encryption
software, and it's free) as well as demonstrate other ways one can
enhance one's privacy and security on the Internet.
Silicon Spooks Part 2: Personal Security on the Internet

Last month, I described how the government routinely snoops on our
electronic communications and violates our right to privacy.

However, for most people, the government is the least of our troubles
when it comes to protecting our privacy when we use computers and the
Internet. Other common snoops are our bosses in our workplaces,
commercial Internet sites, and criminals. And of those three threats to
our privacy, our bosses and commercial Internet sites are the most
common threats. In this short article,

I'll try to give some tips on how to protect yourself.

But first, as promised in my last article, here is a brief tutorial on
how to obtain and use PGP. I'm going to concentrate on the PC version
of PGP because 1) it requires more explanation, 2) it is in much wider
use than the Mac version, and 3) the Mac version is easier to use and
understand.
What is PGP?

PGP is powerful encryption software. Meaning, it is a piece of software
that enables you to encrypt your data (typically documents and e-mail
messages).
Where to get PGP?

There really are only two places you can get it. The first is PGP Inc.,
and the second is at MIT - I recommend the MIT distribution site.
Which version you should get?

There are two commonly used versions of PGP available, PGP 2.6.2 and
PGP 5.0. I recommend PGP 2.6.2.

PGP 5.0 is newer and easier to use, but unfortunately it uses an
entirely new (though not necessarily better) system for encrypting your
data that is not compatible with older versions of PGP. PGP 2.6.2 has a
steeper learning curve in terms of usability but it is, hands down, the
most widely used version of PGP in the U.S. and, therefore, will enable
you to exchange encrypted messages with a much wider number of PGP
users.
How to use PGP

Once you've downloaded and installed PGP the first thing you need to do
is generate what's called a PGP 'key pair". (Installing PGP 2.6.2 is
relatively straightforward for people who are moderately familiar with
their computer. Print out the setup.doc file in the PGP distribution
and follow the instructions for your operating system.)

To generate your PGP key pair, issue the following command at a DOS
prompt: pgp -kg

After you issue this command, PGP will ask you a ...

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 More options Jul 24 2005, 12:39 pm
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From: derdrittemann2...@yahoo.com
Date: 24 Jul 2005 09:39:13 -0700
Local: Sun, Jul 24 2005 12:39 pm
Subject: Re: Countering "counterterrorism"

kathleen wrote:
> Here's an interesting thought.

ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT PEOPLE DELIBERATELY ATTEMPT TO CONFUSE AND
MISLEAD LAW ENFORCEMENT AND SECURITY AGENCIES?

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From: "kathleen" <kathleen.dick...@snet.net>
Date: 24 Jul 2005 09:48:37 -0700
Local: Sun, Jul 24 2005 12:48 pm
Subject: Re: Countering "counterterrorism"

1) Lyme is a borreliosis (a permanent brain infection), and we're not
"CRAZY"

Alan Barbour:
http://www.ucihs.uci.edu/microbio/index.html?top.html&menu.html&facul...
"These tick-borne infections are notable for multiphasic antigenic
variation through DNA recombinations in the case of relapsing fever,
the occurrence of chronic arthritis in the case of Lyme disease, and
invasion of and persistence in the brain in the case of both
diseases."

Borrelia and Brain (MedLine):  (nearly 200 citations)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=PureSearch&db=pubme...

2)  The blood testing standard for Lyme is bogus.  Steere knows there
is a different antibody profile for neuroborreliosis, and that OspA
(LymeRIX) and B produced strong antibodies in people with arthritis, so
it never should have been left out of the standard.

Borrelia is a "stealth pathogen," thus there is not typically a
high antibody response.

ALAN BARBOUR:
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=P...

"Multiclonal populations therefore can exist in an infected patient
so that immunological defenses are severely tested if not totally
overwhelmed."

(1986) "Antigens of Borrelia" Allen Steere, in which he states that
antibodies to
borrelia include OspA and B, and that these bound strongly in persons
with Lyme arthritis.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&...

1: J Clin Invest. 1986 Oct;78(4):934-9.

Antigens of Borrelia burgdorferi recognized during Lyme disease.
Appearance of a
new immunoglobulin M response and expansion of the immunoglobulin G
response
late in the illness.

Craft JE, Fischer DK, Shimamoto GT, Steere AC.

Using immunoblots, we identified proteins of Borrelia burgdorferi bound
by IgM
and IgG antibodies during Lyme disease. In 12 patients with early
disease alone,
both the IgM and IgG responses were restricted primarily to a 41-kD
antigen.
This limited response disappeared within several months. In contrast,
among six
patients with prolonged illness, the IgM response to the 41-kD protein
sometimes
persisted for months to years, and late in the illness during
arthritis, a new
IgM response sometimes developed to a 34-kD component of the organism.
The IgG
response in these patients appeared in a characteristic sequential
pattern over
months to years to as many as 11 spirochetal antigens. The appearance
of a new
IgM response and the expansion of the IgG response late in the illness,
and the
lack of such responses in patients with early disease alone, suggest
that B.
burgdorferi remains alive throughout the illness.
PMID: 3531237 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

(1988)   "Changes in Infectivity and Plasmid Profile of the Lyme
Disease Spirochete..."   National Institute of Allergy and Infectious
Disease , (1988)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&...
1: Infect Immun. 1988 Aug;56(8):1831-6.

Changes in infectivity and plasmid profile of the Lyme disease
spirochete,
Borrelia burgdorferi, as a result of in vitro cultivation.

Schwan TG, Burgdorfer W, Garon CF.

Laboratory of Pathobiology, Rocky Mountain Laboratories, National
Institue of
Allergy and Infectious Diseases, Hamilton, Montana 59840.

In vitro cultivation of Borrelia burgdorferi, the etiologic agent of
Lyme
spirochetosis, allows for the isolation and growth of this bacterium
from
infected tissues. However, continuous cultivation in modified Kelly
medium
causes a reduction in the number of detectable plasmids and the loss of
infectivity in the white-footed mouse, Peromyscus leucopus. In an
unpassaged
culture of B. burgdorferi, nine plasmids were present, including seven
linear
plasmids ranging in size from 49 to 16 kilobases (kb) and two circular
plasmids
of 27 and 7.6 kb. The 7.6-kb circular and 22-kb linear plasmids were no
longer
detectable in spirochetes noninfective in white-footed mice, suggesting
that a
gene(s) encoding for factors responsible for infection may be present
on one or
more of these extrachromosomal elements. Furthermore, changes in
spirochetal
proteins and lipopolysaccharide-like material were observed also during
early
cultivation and may be related to loss of infectivity.
PMID: 3397175 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

NIH:   Don't use high passage strains: They lose OspA and B plasmid
expression

(1988)  European Patent Application Number 93201345.1
Assigned to Alan Barbour, Louis Magnarelli, Sven Bergstrom

USA Patent #
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=P...

"It has been shown that the earliest IgM antibodies formed against
antigens of the B. burgdorferi strain B31, which was deposited in the
American Type Culture Collection in 1983 with the accession number ATCC
35210, are directed against a genus-specific flagellar poly-peptide
termed flagellin having a molecular weight of 41 kd (10) and which
reacts with monoclonal antibody H9724 (22). IgG antibodies are also
first directed to the 41 kd flagellin, but with advancing disease IgG
antibodies form against other immunogens, especially against two
abundant proteins with molecular weights of 31 kd and 34 kd. These two
proteins, which have been denoted OspA (31 kd) and OspB (34 kd), have
been found to be located at the B. burgdorferi surface and embedded in
its outer fluid cell membrane (11).

-OspA is meant to be a diagnostic antigen (it is now not)

1990     CDC Publication   Lyme blood testing standard:  Perform serial
Western blots

(1991)-  Yale, Fikrig, Borrelia specific flagellin fragment is 94.4%
accurate and does not cross react (is specific)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&...
1: Infect Immun. 1991 Oct;59(10):3531-5.

Molecular characterization of the humoral response to the 41-kilodalton
flagellar antigen of Borrelia burgdorferi, the Lyme disease agent.

Berland R, Fikrig E, Rahn D, Hardin J, Flavell RA.

Section of Immunobiology, Yale University School of Medicine, New
Haven,
Connecticut 06510.

The earliest humoral response in patients infected with Borrelia
burgdorferi,
the agent of Lyme disease, is directed against the spirochete's 41-kDa
flagellar
antigen. In order to map the epitopes recognized on this antigen, 11
overlapping
fragments spanning the flagellin gene were cloned by polymerase chain
reaction
and inserted into an Escherichia coli expression vector which directed
their
expression as fusion proteins containing glutathione S-transferase at
the N
terminus and a flagellin fragment at the C terminus. Affinity-purified
fusion
proteins were assayed for reactivity on Western blots (immunoblots)
with sera
from patients with late-stage Lyme disease. The same immunodominant
domain was
bound by sera from 17 of 18 patients. This domain (comprising amino
acids 197 to
241) does not share significant homology with other bacterial
flagellins and
therefore may be useful in serological testing for Lyme disease.
PMID: 1894359 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

(1992) "Western blotting in the Serodiagnosis of Lyme Disease"
1992, July Dressler/Steere

Steere knowingly using a weakened strain intending to leave OspA and B
out of the serologic standard, decreasing the likelihood that people
will be diagnosed with Lyme disease, and with the intention of
capturing all the post-LymeRIX or ImmuLyme approval testing for Lyme.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&...
1: J Infect Dis. 1993 Feb;167(2):392-400.

Western blotting in the serodiagnosis of Lyme disease.

Dressler F, Whalen JA, Reinhardt BN, Steere AC.

Division of Rheumatology/Immunology, Tufts University School of
Medicine, New
England Medical Center, Boston, Massachusetts 02111.

There are currently no accepted criteria for positive Western blots in
Lyme
disease. In a retrospective analysis of 225 case and control subjects,
the best
discriminatory ability of test criteria was obtained by requiring at
least 2 of
the 8 most common IgM bands in early disease (18, 21, 28, 37, 41, 45,
58, and 93
kDa) and by requiring at least 5 of the 10 most frequent IgG bands
after the
first weeks of infection (18, 21, 28, 30, 39, 41, 45, 58, 66, and 93
kDa). When
these definitions were tested in a prospective study of all 237
patients seen in
a diagnostic Lyme disease clinic during a 1-year period and in 74
patients with
erythema migrans or summer flu-like illnesses, the IgM blot in early
disease had
a sensitivity of 32% and a specificity of 100%; the IgG blot after the
first
weeks of infection had a sensitivity of 83% and a specificity of 95%.
Among
patients with indeterminate IgG responses by ELISA, 6 of 9 patients
with active
Lyme disease had positive blots compared with 2 of 34 patients with
other
illnesses (P < .001). Thus, Western blotting can be used to increase
the
specificity of serologic testing in Lyme disease.
PMID: 8380611 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

(1993)  "Antibody Responses to Three Genomic Groups.."
Dressler/Steere
1: J Infect Dis. 1994 Feb;169(2):313-8.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&...

Antibody responses to the three genomic groups of Borrelia burgdorferi
in
European Lyme borreliosis.

Dressler F, Ackermann R, Steere AC.

Division of Rheumatology/Immunology, New England Medical Center, Tufts
University School of Medicine, Boston, Massachusetts 02111.

The antibody responses to the three genomic groups of Borrelia
burgdorferi (B.
burgdorferi sensu
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Discussion subject changed to "KATHLEEN TELL THE TRUTH FOR A CHANGE/ANSWER THE QUESTIONS!" by lisasawitch
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Date: 24 Jul 2005 10:10:07 -0700
Local: Sun, Jul 24 2005 1:10 pm
Subject: KATHLEEN TELL THE TRUTH FOR A CHANGE/ANSWER THE QUESTIONS!
ANSWER THE QUESTIONS KATHLEEN

Let's see how you like it kathleen EVERY time you post, I will change
the title of the thread and I will post these questions until you
answer them one by one and answering them means NOT talking about
mcsweegan or former governor rowland and all your typical diversionary
crap anyway.

PLUS you are cross posting ONCE AGAIN TOTALLY OFF TOPIC and you're
selfish to do this to one newsgroups CRIMINAL to do it to multiple
newsgroups--yes here is your "crime": You are preventing people who
need help from getting help for your selfish personal reasons that you
are so completely egocentric along with delusional paranoid
schizophrenic with psychotic features that you just can't see past your

own twisted delusional psychotic personal agenda--which ought to be
about getting your kids back and solving your own enormous problems in
life instead of trying to solve anyone else's. By preventing people
from getting help you are responsible for the consequences. Surely
people are dying as a result so you are a murderer (trying out a little

kathleen "logic" here. So you are now being reported to the DOJ FBI and

CIA and WHO and UN and DCF and the federal and state courts and
homeland insanity department and all over the planet as a murderer.

How do you like them apples?

Now answer the questions. And stop the off topic cross posting. Answer
the questions TRUTHFULLY for a change. Focus on the question. If
there's a question yuo don't understand which is hard to believe given
your self declared genius IQ, let us know and we'll rephrase it.

Don't LIE as you do and don't try your diversionary tactics. Ignore
this and I will keep reposting it kathleen. Not only that but your
silence will be construed as admissions to all of the facts listed as
questions.

PS: This is NOT "taunting" You have put your credibility at issue. You
have repeatedly said that you NEVER lie. We deserve the answers to
these questions. Straight answers.

REPOST:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.med.diseases.lyme/browse_thre...

Nope we're talking about YOU. ANSWER THE QUESTIONS

And come back and tell us when Steere or McSweegan or anyone else is
actually charged with your "Lyme Crymes" instead of telling us what
you, in all your infinite wisdom, think will happen.

Now let's talk not about who WILL be convicted but WHO already has
been--YOU.

Here's the question list. One by one give us some answers. Your post is

just like the Bush White House trying to DIVERT attention from what
Karl Rove did to Joe Wilson--by attacking him AGAIN.

Nope answer the questions kathleen. Stop trying to change the subject.
I know you're delusional but try to focus. Here is a list of questions
for YOU. We've already heard your ramblings about 100,000 times. Now
dish some TRUTH for a change--I'm going to leave space between the
questions for your answers:

Was your case appealed and was your conviction overturned?

And what isn't true? Everything can be backed up with your own posts
kathleen. Not a big secret how people know since you posted it all
here.

Were you charged with and convicted of threatening and harassing
Jessica Gauvin?

Did you flee to Canada?

Did you tell everyone that your case was a custody case against DCF
when the truth was that it was a criminal case against you and your
kids had been taken away many months earlier and you didn't even appeal

that?

Did you threaten to bomb the stonington schools, joke or not?

Did you show up at your kid's safe house with a bag full of drugs
whether you meant to give them to your lawyer or not?

Come on specifically what isn't true?

You were charged tried and convicted in a court of law. Right or wrong,

admit or deny?

Now you say you've proven you're innocent.

In what court were your convictions overturned?

In fact, tell us what the charges were. Give some detail. What exactly
were you convicted of doing or threatening to do to Jessica Gauvin?

Tell us what your diagnosis was in the mental institution?

You admit or deny that your kids were taken away by child services in
CT?

Admit or deny you were charged with crimes?

Admit or deny you feld to canada?

Admit or deny you were convicted?

Admit or deny you were institutionalized in a mental ward locked wing?

Admit or deny that your convictions were never reversed, in fact you
never filed an appeal did you?

So who's lying about what?

Yeah sure, you say everyone lied about the charges. But that's not what

the court thought was it?

Did you register a website claiming on it you were working for Pfizer
at the time when you had "retired" years before?

Was Lymeraft which solicited funds for YOU, ever a proper legally
registered charity?

kathleen you're the liar here.

Do you really expect everyone to believe that the rest of the world is
crazy, not you?

And that the rest if the world has conspired to frame you? Because of
your lyme activism which you have even admitted amounts to more posting

on the internet than any real accomplishments?

Come on kathleen. What isn't true specifically issue by issue above.
Tell us specifically which items you say aren't true. We can go back
and find the posts where you admitted stuff and show what a liar YOU
are!

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Date: 24 Jul 2005 10:11:31 -0700
Local: Sun, Jul 24 2005 1:11 pm
Subject: Re: Countering "counterterrorism"

kathleen wrote:
> 1) Lyme is a borreliosis (a permanent brain infection), and we're not
> "CRAZY"

ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT PEOPLE DELIBERATELY ATTEMPT TO CONFUSE AND
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Date: 24 Jul 2005 14:55:31 -0700
Local: Sun, Jul 24 2005 5:55 pm
Subject: Re: Countering KATHLEEN'S NEVER ENDING LIES!
ANSWER THE QUESTIONS KATHLEEN

Let's see how you like it kathleen EVERY time you post, I will change
the title of the thread and I will post these questions until you
answer them one by one and answering them means NOT talking about
mcsweegan or former governor rowland and all your typical diversionary
crap anyway.

PLUS you are cross posting ONCE AGAIN TOTALLY OFF TOPIC and you're
selfish to do this to one newsgroups CRIMINAL to do it to multiple
newsgroups--yes here is your "crime": You are preventing people who
need help from getting help for your selfish personal reasons that you
are so completely egocentric along with delusional paranoid
schizophrenic with psychotic features that you just can't see past your

own twisted delusional psychotic personal agenda--which ought to be
about getting your kids back and solving your own enormous problems in
life instead of trying to solve anyone else's. By preventing people
from getting help you are responsible for the consequences. Surely
people are dying as a result so you are a murderer (trying out a little

kathleen "logic" here. So you are now being reported to the DOJ FBI and

CIA and WHO and UN and DCF and the federal and state courts and
homeland insanity department and all over the planet as a murderer.

How do you like them apples?

Now answer the questions. And stop the off topic cross posting. Answer
the questions TRUTHFULLY for a change. Focus on the question. If
there's a question yuo don't understand which is hard to believe given
your self declared genius IQ, let us know and we'll rephrase it.

Don't LIE as you do and don't try your diversionary tactics. Ignore
this and I will keep reposting it kathleen. Not only that but your
silence will be construed as admissions to all of the facts listed as
questions.

PS: This is NOT "taunting" You have put your credibility at issue. You
have repeatedly said that you NEVER lie. We deserve the answers to
these questions. Straight answers.

REPOST:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.med.diseases.lyme/browse_thre...

Nope we're talking about YOU. ANSWER THE QUESTIONS

And come back and tell us when Steere or McSweegan or anyone else is
actually charged with your "Lyme Crymes" instead of telling us what
you, in all your infinite wisdom, think will happen.

Now let's talk not about who WILL be convicted but WHO already has
been--YOU.

Here's the question list. One by one give us some answers. Your post is

just like the Bush White House trying to DIVERT attention from what
Karl Rove did to Joe Wilson--by attacking him AGAIN.

Nope answer the questions kathleen. Stop trying to change the subject.
I know you're delusional but try to focus. Here is a list of questions
for YOU. We've already heard your ramblings about 100,000 times. Now
dish some TRUTH for a change--I'm going to leave space between the
questions for your answers:

Was your case appealed and was your conviction overturned?

And what isn't true? Everything can be backed up with your own posts
kathleen. Not a big secret how people know since you posted it all
here.

Were you charged with and convicted of threatening and harassing
Jessica Gauvin?

Did you flee to Canada?

Did you tell everyone that your case was a custody case against DCF
when the truth was that it was a criminal case against you and your
kids had been taken away many months earlier and you didn't even appeal

that?

Did you threaten to bomb the stonington schools, joke or not?

Did you show up at your kid's safe house with a bag full of drugs
whether you meant to give them to your lawyer or not?

Come on specifically what isn't true?

You were charged tried and convicted in a court of law. Right or wrong,

admit or deny?

Now you say you've proven you're innocent.

In what court were your convictions overturned?

In fact, tell us what the charges were. Give some detail. What exactly
were you convicted of doing or threatening to do to Jessica Gauvin?

Tell us what your diagnosis was in the mental institution?

You admit or deny that your kids were taken away by child services in
CT?

Admit or deny you were charged with crimes?

Admit or deny you feld to canada?

Admit or deny you were convicted?

Admit or deny you were institutionalized in a mental ward locked wing?

Admit or deny that your convictions were never reversed, in fact you
never filed an appeal did you?

So who's lying about what?

Yeah sure, you say everyone lied about the charges. But that's not what

the court thought was it?

Did you register a website claiming on it you were working for Pfizer
at the time when you had "retired" years before?

Was Lymeraft which solicited funds for YOU, ever a proper legally
registered charity?

kathleen you're the liar here.

Do you really expect everyone to believe that the rest of the world is
crazy, not you?

And that the rest if the world has conspired to frame you? Because of
your lyme activism which you have even admitted amounts to more posting

on the internet than any real accomplishments?

Come on kathleen. What isn't true specifically issue by issue above.
Tell us specifically which items you say aren't true. We can go back
and find the posts where you admitted stuff and show what a liar YOU
are!


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