From the Medics, Unhealthy Silence
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>From the Medics, Unhealthy Silence
By Stephen N. Xenakis
Sunday, February 6, 2005; Page B04
The recent confirmation hearings for attorney general nominee Alberto
R. Gonzales and the trials of the soldiers accused of misconduct at Abu
Ghraib have once again brought to the fore questions about the use of
torture in our war on terrorism. But one aspect that is never mentioned
-- one I believe is essential to consider -- are the actions or, more
to the point, the apparent inaction of medical personnel at both
Guantanamo Bay and Abu Ghraib.
Detention facilities like these typically have fully staffed clinics
with primary care physicians, nurses and a host of other support
personnel to treat American soldiers as well as detainees. Their common
duty -- from corpsmen with basic medical skills training to physicians
with leadership positions -- is to provide care according to high
standards of medical practice to all who need it and, of course, to
report any signs of physical or psychological abuse.
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As a physician holding the title of brigadier general by the time I
retired in 1998, I directed major medical support efforts during the
1991 Gulf War and have seen the Army leadership up close. So, as the
scandals at Abu Ghraib in Iraq and Guantanamo in Cuba unfolded, I
wondered why we had heard so little from the medics. When faced with
the twin pressures of performing their military duty and providing
treatment, did the staffs at these facilities turn a blind eye to the
physical and mental torture inflicted on the prisoners, or perhaps even
collude with interrogators? There are few other explanations for why
they didn't report suspicious findings from the examinations of the
detainees. Unless, of course, those reports were suppressed.
I've also wondered whether the senior medical leadership of the Army,
Navy and Air Force knew of the abuses -- and whether their reports
could have been concealed.
My growing concern has been reinforced by an appalling case of glib
reasoning, in which the office of the deputy assistant secretary of
defense for health affairs, as reported in a recent issue of the New
England Journal of Medicine, has taken the position that the medical
personnel at these facilities had not breached the Hippocratic oath
because there was not a recognized doctor-patient relationship. The
NEJM reported that the deputy assistant secretary endorsed the view
that some of the medics supporting interrogators in Iraq and Guantanamo
were operating outside the bounds of the doctor-patient relationship
and were thus not required to abide by accepted ethical guidelines.
What precisely does this mean? That the prisoners were not being billed
by the medical personnel? That there were no neat files, none of those
signed privacy forms known as HIPAAs? Don't worry, the Defense
Department seems to be saying, being a military physician doesn't mean
that you need to stick to the time-honored maxim of "First, do no
harm"?
Indeed, the same article noted that the office contended that the
legitimate objective of fighting terrorism trumps the ethical
responsibility of the healing practitioner. In other words, "the ends
justify the means": A few brutalized prisoners is a small price to pay
for protecting the citizens of the United States.
According to this line of reasoning, military medical personnel should
put a higher priority on fighting the war against terrorism than on
abiding by the recognized ethical and moral principles of their
profession. Moreover, no worries about potential malpractice suits need
cloud their day; they can feel protected and relieved of the duty to
exercise personal and individual responsibility.
That's not how I was trained. I attended both college and medical
school on Army scholarships during the turbulent years of Vietnam and
the My Lai massacre, with cynicism over the practices in our military
echoing in my ears. Fifteen years later, in 1989 and 1990, I attended
the Army War College as a medical corps colonel. At all these
institutions, clear parameters for conduct were laid out. The war
colleges teach senior officers -- future generals and admirals -- that
commanders are responsible for the ethical and moral climate of their
units. They are also responsible for what the men and women who serve
under them do and don't do.
There is no escaping the fact that responsibility for the conduct of
the medics at Guantanamo Bay and Abu Ghraib rests with the senior
leadership of the medical departments. This leadership faced tough
questions from the outset of operations in both Afghanistan and Iraq
about how medics were supposed to treat detainees; the burden of
leadership is to ensure that high moral and ethical practices are
maintained in even the most demanding situations.
But there is not much evidence to show that the Defense Department
wrote out guidelines for adherence to the high standards. In fact,
there is only evidence to the contrary: There are few, if any, reports
from medics about detainee abuse and there is no sign of inquiries or
reviews of the policies and conduct of the medical teams at those
facilities. But documents of testimony taken during investigation into
the abuses at Abu Ghraib recently released under the Freedom of
Information Act and posted on the Web sites of the American Civil
Liberties Union and Center for Public Integrity suggest that medical
personnel were aware of abuses, may have witnessed some and may even
have advised interrogators on the individual medical conditions of the
prisoners and their vulnerabilities to specific stresses that could
induce them to disclose valuable intelligence -- actions that may have
bordered on torture.
With disturbing echoes of unsavory regimes in history, medics abdicated
their responsibilities toward the detainees, their patients, instead of
making interrogations more humane, more in keeping with international
standards of decency.
Unlike soldiers, doctors have a duty to patients as well as country.
That is what separates U.S. military physicians from the German doctors
who aided the Nazis in concentration camps or, in perhaps a closer
parallel, the South African prison doctors who examined anti-apartheid
leader Steve Biko (a fellow physician no less), filed incomplete
reports, deferred to police interrogators and failed to stop the brutal
treatment that ended in Biko's death.
But there is an even bigger failure to be reckoned with. These are
times when the country deserves great leadership, and that kind of
leadership anticipates the toughest problems. Military leaders should
first have asked the hard questions about the ethical parameters
guiding the conduct of medics and focused on the policies that governed
that conduct: What is the historical precedent; what are the best ideas
about the role of medics in this war; and what are the long-term
consequences of their actions? For these leaders to speak up as the
scandals were investigated would have taken great courage -- generals
and admirals would have been forced to retire.
But heroism is not just the stuff of the battlefield. Patients trust
doctors, nurses and medics because they expect them to do what is right
-- to put the needs of others over their own. Nations expect their
generals to be bold and to take risks -- and to show moral courage.
Something doesn't smell right here, and it just may be an abscess of
ethical lapses. While there can be long and learned legal discussions
about the role of torture during wartime, the medical aspect of these
discussions should be very brief: No doctor -- and no military medical
leader -- should participate in torture in any way. Either by advising
interrogators of prisoners' vulnerabilities or by simply doing nothing,
they did participate. And that says more about the problems of military
leadership than any memo on legal protections.
Author's e-mail: sn...@aol.com
Stephen N. Xenakis, a retired brigadier general with the U.S. Army, now
works as a child and adolescent psychiatrist at the Psychiatric
Institute of Washington.
© 2005 The Washington Post Company
kathleen
prisons in general. They get notoriously bad healthcare
and dental care. If you have a crown that needs to be
finished, the dentists will offer you to have the tooth
pulled.
The inmates die of HIV and no one cares, 85% of the
kitchen workers are HIV infected, and tuberculosis
is not uncommon.
More than half the prisoners have no teeth. The only
medical care they get is Seroquel, mostly. If you are
injured, the medical staff laughs, and gives no treatment.
No one cares if inmates don't survive. Think about it.
They don't care if you have doctor's orders or orders from
the court to be treated for anything. They deny you medical
care. Period.
They don't report assaults to anyone. If one prisoner
attacks another, they turn a blind eye, and record that it
was a fight, even if it was not. They encourage the aggressors,
because the guards enjoy these fights. The mentality behind
that is that no one better the hell dare complain to any
authorities about what goes on in the prisons, and if they
think you might complain, they see to it, that you are
not protected from the real psychos there.
In other words, they use the other violent prisoners as
an intimidation and punitive technique.
This is not conjecture or hearsay.
Kathleen
Frank de Groot
These questions need to be asked about American
prisons in general. They get notoriously bad healthcare
and dental care.
It's going to get much worse.
The prisons are being privatized, turned into for-profit companies.
As we all know, corporations with shareholders are MACHINES that do not care
about humans.
PromaBoss
no matter what anyone has done we should not lower our selves to there
leveel,all deserve healthcare and support
many with mental health and ND issues are in normal prison when clealry this
is not correct place for them
in fact take murder,we say
you were fully respinsible at time of murder,not mad or mentally ill
ok if thats the case is it perefctly normal then to murder??
of course it is not so in other words they were not in a fit mental
state,its obvious they are not,in fact most people in most crimes are not in
any fit mental state or ND state when committing a crime
we neeed a radical new approach,yes on l,ocking up dangerous people,yes on
real life sentences,ie kil someone at 16 and never come out you stay till
you die,except in rare circumstances,attempted murder or serious assault
should carry same penalties as the mirder.
after all its oftwen only pure liuck the person did not die,yet for that you
get a lightwer sentence.
but they need in priosn or secure establishment still have access to thngs
to improve there lives and stil be treated with dignity.
then other offences re hab should be the prime motive,not just incarceration
then let out to commit same crime again
regards,Paul
"sam ende" <s...@sende.co.uk> wrote in message
news:39uce1F...@individual.net...
> kathleen wrote:
>
>> These questions need to be asked about American
>> prisons in general. They get notoriously bad healthcare
>> and dental care. If you have a crown that needs to be
>> finished, the dentists will offer you to have the tooth
>> pulled.
>
> they seem to be really bad. :( and i really really cannot agree with the
> death sentence, it is so primative. you should be above that.
>
> sammi
kathleen
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Yes, I know.
Our Governor's friends had such a plan. For children, too.
Tomorrow, he will be sentenced to jail himself for this
vision of Ellef's- "a national string of prisons and juvenile
detention centers."
It was called TREA. DCF's *R*agaglia is a lawyer.
Tomasso
R ?
Ellef
Alibozek
http://www.zwire.com/site/printerFriendly.cfm?brd=2303&dept_id=478976&newsid=13044203
09/30/2004
Corruption Suit Touches County
By: E.L. Lefferts
Attorney General Richard Blumenthal lost no time in filing suit against
two Litchfield County residents and others who played roles in alleged
corruption within the administration of former governor John Rowland.
Advertisement
Lawrence Alibozek of New Hartford, a deputy chief of staff during the
Rowland administration, and Theodore Anson of Bridgewater, the former
commissioner of the state Department of Public Works (DPW), appear
prominently in a list of defendants in a two-count complaint filed
Sept. 27 in Hartford Superior Court.
Because of the alleged actions of those named, taxpayers may have been
bilked out of "millions if not tens of millions of dollars," the
attorney general said Tuesday.
In a separate press release, he noted the reasons for the suit. "We
charge that public officials and powerful contactors engaged in a
wide-ranging scheme to skew and subvert competitive bidding in major
state projects," the attorney general said. "These officials allegedly
sacrificed and sabotaged the public interest, causing taxpayer moneys
to be misused and diverted. They allegedly favored one contractor with
insider information and other advantages that made a mockery of fair,
effective contracting. Our goal is money back for taxpayers-to recover
for harm done through self-dealing and self-enrichment."
Playing leading roles in the alleged scheme, and consequently also
appearing in the suit, are Peter Ellef of Avon, Mr. Rowland's co-chief
of staff, and his son Peter Ellef II, also of Avon, who owns a
landscaping firm called LF Design, LLC.
In addition, ***Kristine D. Ragaglia of Plainville, the former
commissioner of the state Department of Children and Families (DCF),***
and Patrick J. Delahunty, Jr. of Southington, who served as the chief
deputy commissioner of the Department of Public Works, are named.
All of these players allegedly became entangled in one way or another
with construction companies under the Tomasso umbrella. William Tomasso
of New Britain is named, as are Tomasso Brothers Construction Company,
Inc., Tomasso Brothers, Inc. and Tunxis Management Company, Inc.
The Ellefs and Mr. Tomasso were also indicted last week on federal
charges stemming from the alleged corruption.
One name that is absent from Mr. Blumenthal's suit is that of the
ex-governor. Mr. Rowland resigned July 1, following an investigation
into gifts he accepted of improvements to his Bantam Lake cottage from
the Tomasso family, Mr. Alibozek and Mr. Ellef, as well as others.
Mr. Rowland's absence may be temporary, however. "Our investigation is
active and ongoing," Mr. Blumenthal said. "We've ruled out no one as a
potential target and we'll follow the investigation wherever the
evidence leads."
The evidence dominating this suit stems from an occurrence September
1998, when a young girl incarcerated at the Long Lane School, a
correctional facility in Middletown, committed suicide.
State officials, recognizing that the facility was severely
overcrowded, decided to shut down the school and build a new facility
for boys.
*** A correctional institution in Marion, Ohio, attracted the eye of
DCF officials and it became the model for the Connecticut project. ***
In November 1998, a posse of Connecticut officials, including Mr. Ellef
Sr., Mr. Alibozek and Ms. Ragaglia accompanied by William Tomasso,
visited the Ohio facility.
The state was so impressed that the DPW hired Kendal Ball, the Marion
project manager, as a paid consultant to frame its Request for
Qualifications for the new Connecticut institution.
On Dec. 16, 1998, the DPW issued an advertisement seeking those
requests. It was authorized by Mr. Delahunty, and the language of the
Request for Qualifications itself was signed by Mr. Anson. Nowhere in
the request did it mention that the project would be fashioned after
the Marion facility.
Without disclosing that William Tomasso had been to Ohio, the
construction company stated in its qualifications that it had an
"excellent start to design." In fact, Tomasso Brothers, Inc. had hired
Mr. Ball as well as KZF Incorporated, the architect that designed the
Marion facility to help with its bid.
As the decision-making process progressed on the Connecticut Juvenile
Training School project, or CJTS, as it came to be called, Bruce
Bockstael, a DPW employee, raised concerns about Tomasso's use of the
same paid consultants employed by the state.
"Defendant Peter N. Ellef directed that Defendant Theodore R. Anson
terminate Bockstael from employment," the suit stated. "Defendant
Theodore R. Anson followed up by ordering personnel within the DPW to
terminate Bockstael. This termination did not in fact take place, as
personnel within the DPW had further discussion with Defendant ...
Anson and convinced him not to proceed."
Despite Mr. Bockstael's concerns, when the DPW put together its Request
for Proposals, Mr. Ball and KZF Incorporated were there to frame it,
and representing the DCF on the construction company selection panel
was Ms. Ragaglia, who had accompanied Mr. Tomasso on the Ohio tour.
In May of 1999, Mr. Anson notified Tomasso Brothers that out of five
competitors, it had won the bidding war.
By 2000, the DPW turned its attention to providing a new facility for
female delinquent youths. It again hired Mr. Ball as well as Children's
Comprehensive Services, Inc. and Linda Albrecht.
In its statement of qualifications, Tomasso Brothers Construction
Company revealed that it had hired the same people. Not surprisingly,
the company was again successful in its bid for the project. The
facility, however, was never built.
Although it's not specified in the suit, reports say Tomasso-owned
companies also garnered a state contract to build a $37 million parking
garage at Bradley International Airport. In addition, it secured six
long-term DPW property management contracts, although it was not the
low bidder on five of them. Those contracts earned the company more
than $23 million.
The benefits of dealing with the Tomassos allegedly motivated Mr.
Alibozek to eventually form a limited liability corporation in 1999
called TREA. It was allegedly established as a conduit for payments in
exchange for steering state contracts. TREA stands for Tomasso, Ellef
and Alibozek. The "R" initial has not yet been identified.
Eventually, federal investigators arrested Mr. Alibozek and he pleaded
guilty to accepting cash and gold coins, which he reportedly buried in
his New Hartford yard, in exchange for ushering state contracts to
generous contractors.
Mr. Anson also allegedly reaped the rewards of being in a powerful
position with the state. Kaestle Boos Associates, Inc., a New Britain
architectural firm that dabbled with the CJTS project, allegedly
designed a $190,000 addition for Mr. Anson's Bridgewater home free of
charge. Upon learning of this clear violation of state ethics, then
Gov. Rowland requested and received Mr. Anson's resignation.
The suit seeks restitution for the possible millions lost to no-bid
contracts, the cost of the attorney general's year-long investigation,
and prosecution of the action, as well as a $5,000 civil penalty per
each violation of the Connecticut Unfair Trade Practices Act.
No court date has been set.
©Litchfield County Times 2005
a_we...@yahoo.com
And then burn it.
Can you POSSIBLY ever give it a rest?
Maybe you might think about focusing on trying to get your life
together. Get your kids back. Deal with your psychiatric issues?
Stop cross posting. Stop doing the things that led to you losing your
kids and being incarcerated/institutionalized for the past year in the
first place.
Get a grip woman.
Take advantage of the resources available to you for help. (that
doesn't mean your Lyme "activism").
Focus on the solutions to YOUR problems.
Then worry about everyone else's.
Did you ever consider that?
Do you realize that this is NOT a case of you being right and the rest
of the world being crazy.
It is the opposite.
WitchWirsen
Inmates get better medical care in the state of Missouri than working
citizens who have committed no crimes.
And coming from a family filled with law enforcement, and one LE of over 50
years, I resent your remarks about how they operate.
It's hogwash.
"kathleen" <kathleen...@snet.net> wrote in message
news:1111095050.9...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
kathleen
And you can wait a year for a teeth cleaning.
Everything I said about CT prisons is a FACT.
If yours is a family filled with law enforcement, perhaps
you could have your experts look at the Lyme racketeering
fraud, and also the MMR induced vaccine damage.
We *need* such courageous individuals fighting
for the rights of sick people who are not criminals.
Otherwise, chill out and stick to the facts.
Kathleen
kathleen
to be saying Lyme is RICO, when Mr. Blumenthal and
his lawyers agree, and referred me to the US attorney
to file this complaint. Blumenthal used to be a
US Attorney. The criteria for this to be RICO is
creating a bogus blood test to approve a false
positive Lyme vaccine.
That was the AG's office's condition, that this is
RICO.
That Lyme is RICO is the reason me and my kids can't
get medical care, and my daughter 504.
DCF also said I don't have Lyme, just congenitally
infected kids. One DCF worker asked her co "workers"
how serious Lyme disease is, after she told me her
dog and grandfather died of Lyme.
DCF also said I was insane and dangerous to be saying
Rowland needs to be impeached. He's going to jail for
exactly what I said he should be impeached over, in
October, 2003.
It's clearly not me, who is insane.
You're out of your mind. Go tell it to Mr. Blumenthal,
okay? Go tell him Lyme isn't RICO. Go tell him he
is wrong. Maybe Congress can make the case for use of
androgens for people like you, just not real men.
Kathleen
Jurassic Pierogi
> You are full of shit.
> Inmates get better medical care in the state of Missouri than working
> citizens who have committed no crimes.
>
> And coming from a family filled with law enforcement, and one LE of over 50
> years, I resent your remarks about how they operate.
> It's hogwash.
And seeing that 80% are dopers, I would imagine meeting one of your
family LEO's would turn out to be a bad day for just about anyone.
But of course it's hogwash. Your doper LEO relatives would never stand
around and laugh at prisoners dying on the floor in front of them.
kathleen
at the heroin addicts who climbed the walls and
writhed on the floors 24/7 for 5 days straight.
The CT State law is that they are supposed to be
treated for "clinically relavent" cases of herion
withdrawal.
They gang up around the cell doorway for the
show. They do not treat this severe condition.
FACT.
No one in the world ever better dare say they are
impaired with "panic disorder." Try heroin cold
turkey. I watched it 24/7 with my own eyes, on
several occasions. We were giving them extra
blankets and everything we could to alleviate
their suffering.
Some people say they deserve what they get but
I would agree with that only when Psychiatry
becomes a medical practice, and if we get to
find out who sold the former NEW BRITAIN State's
attorney/ prosecutor the marijuana he was busted for
after leaving a party at the Chief State's
Prosecutor's house, Chris Morano.
http://www.courant.com/news/yahoo/hc-soulsby0304.artmar04,0,424403.story?coll=hc-aol-yahoo-nws-hed
And where the DCF "worker" who was busted for selling
cocaine, and being in possession of a gun, got hers.
And who she sold it to.
And if they won't tell, we can outsource them
to torture it out of them. Fair's fair.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0208-13.htm
Kathleen
kathleen
sam ende wrote:
> kathleen wrote:
>
> > These questions need to be asked about American
> > prisons in general. They get notoriously bad healthcare
> > and dental care. If you have a crown that needs to be
> > finished, the dentists will offer you to have the tooth
> > pulled.
>
the
> death sentence, it is so primative. you should be above that.
>
> sammi
Here I am again, answering for us. And not making up for
the apparent lack of worry among the rest of us. I was always
a history-watcher, and Human Rights was the ActionLyme platform
when I started that group, in the Summer of 1999.
http://www.lymenet.de/aktive/pli.htm
There are many aspects to consider, regarding the death
penalty. Some say it prevents crime. Some say too many
innocent people are put to death. Some who are death row
would prefer the process is expedited because jail is
unbearable. Some say that means the convicted person must
be insane to be thinking that. Some say jail causes insanity
(supported by the scientific data on incarcerating animals).
Getting justice itself is clearly a major problem, in the majority
of cases- non-death penalty cases. We have an issue over torture,
which is still not resolved.
Which aspect is the most important to address first?
In my opinion, the most serious aspect of these dilemmas
is the society itself, not caring about others, not doing
anything at all on behalf of others. 'Encouraging the faith-
based president to shift grants over to faith-based initiatives.
One might guess this guy clearly thinks he the Divine Right to
do as he pleases, and that many others believe he is so-ordained,
just by, you know, *reading* what others say about this, um,
Influence.
I think the results on this issue of the death penalty are
now predictable. It will expand, along with, um, "liberty"
and um, the things that happen in the courts. And um, the
information we tried to not acknowledge when Abu Grain MPs
went a little overboard, even for them.
http://www.axcessnews.com/health_082004a.shtml
Falsifying death records?
Some people say we are at the precipice of that "World Religion."
http://progressivetrail.org/articles/031218Wallis.shtml
"William Kristol, editor of the influential Weekly Standard, admits the
aspiration to empire. "If people want to say we're an imperial power,
fine," Kristol wrote. Kristol is chair of the Project for the New
American Century, a group of conservative political figures that began
in 1997 to chart a much more aggressive American foreign policy (see
Project for a New American Empire). The Project's papers lay out the
vision of an "American peace" based on "unquestioned U.S. military
pre-eminence." These imperial visionaries write, "America's grand
strategy should aim to preserve and extend this advantageous position
as far into the future as possible." It is imperative, in their view,
for the United States to "accept responsibility for America's unique
role in preserving and extending an international order friendly to our
security, our prosperity, and our principles." That, indeed, is
empire."
"Bush promised us a foreign policy of humility and a domestic policy of
compassion," Joe Klein wrote in Time magazine. "He has given us a
foreign policy of arrogance and a domestic policy that is cynical,
myopic, and cruel." What happened? "
So, overall, I think this issue will never really be answered.
I think there is no time left to bother, and the vast majority
of Americans are just plain not bothered by injustice and violence.
We *can't be bothered*. It's part of our daily programming and
culture, which truly supports MeOnlyism only.
It is a *fact*, that Human Rights activism is declared insanity,
in the State of CT, in all the courts.
I am really worried that we will not have an election in 2008.
Kathleen
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faith-based
Heaven Sent
Does God endorse George Bush?
By Steven Waldman
Posted Monday, Sept. 13, 2004, at 8:29 AM PT
Democrats tend to overreact to Bush's use of religious rhetoric, which
has usually been responsible, inspiring, and poetic. Typical was the
moment during his convention speech in which he marveled at those who
had prayed for him despite their own losses.
But while Bush's public comments about faith have been mostly within
the mainstream tradition of presidential rhetoric, his supporters
lately have gone in a less-familiar direction: conveying the idea that
God is responsible for Bush being in the White House.
"He is one of those men God and fate somehow lead to the fore in times
of challenge," said George Pataki in the high-profile introduction of
Bush at the Republican National Convention, an introduction almost
certainly scrubbed if not written by the White House.
"I thank God that on September 11th, we had a president who didn't
wring his hands and wonder what America had done wrong to deserve this
attack," he added. "I thank God we had a president who understood that
America was attacked, not for what we had done wrong, but for what we
did right."
If he'd said "thank God" just once we might have concluded this was
simply colloquial usage-a dramatic way of saying, "it's a darn good
thing." That the man introducing Bush thanked God three times makes it
suspicious, even more so given these lines from Rudy Giuliani's speech
two nights earlier: "Spontaneously, I grabbed the arm of then Police
Commissioner Bernard Kerik and said to Bernie, 'Thank God, George Bush
is our president.' " And, to reinforce the point, Giuliani added, "And
I say it again tonight: Thank God, George Bush is our president."
This is not the first time it's been suggested that God deserves thanks
for the 2000 election results. Several sympathetic books about Bush and
his faith make a big deal of his deciding to run for president after
hearing a Texas minister named Rev. Mark Craig preach about how Moses
had been called to service by God. Bush's mother reportedly turned to
her son after the sermon and said, "He was talking to you."
Stephen Mansfield, author of The Faith of George W. Bush, goes on to
say: "Not long after, Bush called James Robison (a prominent minister)
and told him, 'I've heard the call. I believe God wants me to run for
President.' " Richard Land of the Southern Baptist Convention heard
Bush say something similar: "Among the things he said to us was: I
believe that God wants me to be president, but if that doesn't happen,
it's OK.' "
After 9/11, the sense among his supporters that God had chosen him
increased. "I think that God picked the right man at the right time for
the right purpose," said popular Christian broadcaster Janet Parshall.
Gen. William "Jerry" Boykin, who got in trouble for derogatory comments
about Islam, argued that it must have been God who selected Bush, since
a plurality of voters hadn't. "Why is this man in the White House? The
majority of America did not vote for him. He's in the White House
because God put him there for a time such as this." (Boykin still has
his job.)
Time magazine reported, "Privately, Bush talked of being chosen by the
grace of God to lead at that moment." World Magazine, a conservative
Christian publication, quoted White House official Tim Goeglein as
saying, "I think President Bush is God's man at this hour, and I say
this with a great sense of humility."
Even former President George H.W. Bush speculated that perhaps he
needed to be defeated so that his son could become president: "If I'd
won that election in 1992, my oldest son would not be president of the
United States of America," he said. "I think the Lord works in
mysterious ways."
Are the White House and the Bush campaign actively encouraging the idea
that Bush has been put there by God? Bush has been careful to never say
anything close to that in public. And yet the combination of passages
in carefully vetted speeches and quotes from close friends or
supporters indicate that this is the understanding.
In one sense, it's not surprising that some people believe this. Many,
if not most, Americans believe that God intervenes in the lives of
humans. If that weren't the case, prayer might be considered
superfluous, meaningless. If God intervenes in the affairs of ordinary
humans who pray for recovery from illness or a better job, it only
stands to reason that He would control something as consequential as an
American presidency.
Other presidents certainly believed that God was guiding America's
fate. James Madison referred to the "Almighty Being whose power
regulates the destiny of nations." Andrew Jackson beseeched that "He
will continue to make our beloved country the object of His divine care
and gracious benediction." Even Thomas Jefferson, considered a Deist,
said it was the Supreme Being "who led our fathers, as Israel of old,
from their native land and ... who has covered our infancy with His
providence and our riper years with his wisdom and power."
Yet it's hard to recall another instance of a presidential campaign so
confidently promulgating the idea that its candidate had divine
endorsement. The potentially dangerous implication is that since God
put George W. Bush in the White House, opposing him is opposing Him. A
person could get smited for that.
Of course, it's always possible God did put George W. Bush in the White
House. But if He did, it doesn't theologically follow that He wants him
to have a second term. Even those who believe that God controls world
events usually concede it is hard for humans to divine the intent of
the Divine.
After all, in the Bible, God is described as doing things for all sorts
of inexplicable reasons-sometimes as a reward to the people, and
sometimes as a punishment.
Steven Waldman is editor in chief of Beliefnet, the leading multifaith
spirituality and religion Web site.
Article URL: http://slate.msn.com/id/2106590/
Greatcod
kathleen
in those prisons, especially if we don't
approve of recidivism.
But John Rowland thought otherwise.
The CT Commissioner of Corrections, appointed
by John Rowland, went over to Iraq, and ran those
prisons. Their idea of corrections, was of course,
an oxymoron.
Don't forget, this scandal was all about
prison-building. The guards are all psychos.
Okay, maybe one in 200 is not. No more.
The guards like to start fights, just for
the entertainment it then gives them to slam these
women around and spray them with pepper spray. They're
skinheads. *Hate* black people. "Treat" crime with crime.
No one cares, here, This is Corrupticut, after all.
The wealthiest state in the wealthiest country on Earth.
The criminal racket run out of Rowland's office
was intending to build "a national chain of prisons
and juvenile detention centers," just like this one:
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http://www.courant.com/news/local/hc-ubinas0319.artmar19,0,2400768.column?coll=hc-utility-local
Lucky It's Not The Tomasso-Built Prison
Helen Ubiñas
March 19 2005
Interesting that when defense lawyer William Dow ticked off a list of
John Rowland's accomplishments in New Haven federal court Friday -
Adriaen's Landing, UConn 2000, Gateway Community College - he left out
the state's $57 million "world class" juvenile correctional center.
Wasn't that crown jewel of the state's juvenile justice system supposed
to be one of Rowland's big accomplishments, too?
But then, Dow's no fool and Rowland was practically begging U.S.
District Judge Peter Dorsey to show mercy. So, he said he was sorry,
that it was all his fault. He cried. And if he's smart, he and his
spiritual advisers are on their knees somewhere thanking their lucky
stars that Dorsey didn't get creative with his sentencing and send him
to the prison that Rowland and his friends built.
If you remember, experts recommended a different design when it was
time to replace the outdated and unsafe Long Lane - less prison-like,
with more emphasis on treatment. But Rowland and his chief of staff
Peter Ellef insisted on the design that their contractor friend William
Tomasso wanted. They even gave him the contract on an emergency no-bid
basis.
Looking back, it was a fitting testament to Rowland's corruption. It
was too big, too cold, too impersonal to house kids. It opened with a
lack of books and no hot water. Kids were stuck in cells with just
slivers of windows opening into the building. It was called a "training
school," but Travis Ruffin knows better.
"It was a prison," said Ruffin, an 18-year-old who spent 15 months in
the place in 2002 and 2003. "I don't care what anyone says, it should
have never been built."
Ruffin recalled his days at the facility, how the 15-foot fence that
surrounded it made him feel trapped, how he spent days desperate for
sunlight, for air.
Far cry from Federal Prison Camp Devens, Rowland's likely destination
for the next 10 months or so. Set on a wooded former military base in
Massachusetts, the camp has no fences and grounds the inmates are free
to roam in their free time.
Yes, he'll have a regimented day - a work assignment, counts at which
he'll have to be present. But there are no locked cell doors. If he
needs some fresh air, all he'll have to do is take a walk outside.
I toured the juvenile facility Friday, just a few hours before
Rowland's sentencing. Folks from the Department of Children and
Families, which runs it, were quick to point out that much has changed
since Ruffin was there. In what was the high-security building, where
kids were locked down for hours on end, is a makeshift furniture
refinishing shop, one of the new programs at the training school. The
claustrophobic cells and units will soon have bigger windows.
One thing hasn't changed, though - kids don't belong here. You can slap
some colorful paint on the cramped cellblock walls, hang some pretty
paintings in the dormitories and whimsical art from the ceilings, but
there is still an overwhelming prison atmosphere: kids in uniform,
walking in line within a huge facility surrounded by a fence that
reminds them - as if they could ever forget - that they are prisoners.
While listing his client's accomplishments, Dow also talked about how
Rowland once spent the night in a Waterbury homeless shelter,
registering under the name John Doe, to put himself in the shoes of
those less fortunate, to experience what it's like for the state's
have-nots.
Too bad he didn't do something like that at the Connecticut Training
School - maybe he'd understand what his sleazy ways did to kids like
Travis Ruffin, condemned to Rowland's prison.
There were lots of tears when Judge Dorsey imposed Rowland's sentence.
But don't cry too hard, Johnny - at least you're not headed to
Middletown.
Helen Ubiñas can be reached at Ubi...@courant.com.
Copyright 2005, Hartford Courant
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a_we...@yahoo.com
THIS is a Lyme Disease newsgroup.
Also, you may be a convicted felon but you know NOTHING about what
you're posting abou.
As usual
Give it a rest kathLOON.
Get your life together.
How's the kids?
How's the family?
How's the friends?
Get some help kathLOON. You need it.
Brent
snickered:
>No one in the world ever better dare say they are
>impaired with "panic disorder." Try heroin cold
>turkey. I watched it 24/7 with my own eyes, on
>several occasions. We were giving them extra
>blankets and everything we could to alleviate
>their suffering.
My "panic disorder" was from a bacteria that slowly rots a person away
with toxins. Unlike cold turkey mine took and is taking years to beat.
Speaking of prisons I see the same thing in people, who given the
chance, will kill themselves the first chance they get. I know damn
well what they are going through. horrid stuff. It is no mistake that
xanax is the king of drugs in prisons.
ruth
"a_we...@yahoo.com" <a_we...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Couldn't you possibly take this to alt.support.felons
>
> THIS is a Lyme Disease newsgroup.
>
> Also, you may be a convicted felon but you know NOTHING about what
> you're posting abou.
>
> As usual
>
> Give it a rest kathLOON.
>
> Get your life together.
>
> How's the kids?
>
> How's the family?
>
> How's the friends?
>
> Get some help kathLOON. You need it.
>
I think that using a NG filter is a much better solution to dealing with
someone that one doesn't want to read than calling that person names. I
know that this has been going on for forever around here, but this used
to be a good support source for people with Lyme and it would be nice to
see it return to that again. We are all impaired one way or another and
even those who may or may not be very impaired often have information to
offer. Even me sometimes!
Just a suggestion.
Seriously, I am not trying to yell at or chastise or take sides with
*anyone* but it seems like Lyme patients need to lean on each other
rather than fight each other. And once again, if one doesn't want to
read someone ( I am sure there are millions out there who have no
interest in reading about my ability to pee in the woods<g>) then I
suggest the use of a filter. Most newsreaders have them, they have saved
me time in the past. I don't use them often but I do sometimes.
Peace,
Ruth
a_we...@yahoo.com
ruth wrote:
> In article <1111259343.8...@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
> "a_we...@yahoo.com" <a_we...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Couldn't you possibly take this to alt.support.felons
> >
> > THIS is a Lyme Disease newsgroup.
> >
> > Also, you may be a convicted felon but you know NOTHING about what
> > you're posting abou.
> >
> > As usual
> >
> > Give it a rest kathLOON.
> >
> > Get your life together.
> >
> > How's the kids?
> >
> > How's the family?
> >
> > How's the friends?
> >
> > Get some help kathLOON. You need it.
> >
>
> I think that using a NG filter is a much better solution to dealing
with
> someone that one doesn't want to read than calling that person names.
See that's a thought.
But then her posts start showing up when others respond to them. Her
cross posting is not only ANNOYING but brings out all the kooks from
the other groups.
Does this one individual have any right to hijack this and eight other
newsgroups? Even if she has a "right" in the legal sense, doesn't this
fall below even usenet standards for courtesy? And I'm not talking a
very high standard at all.
>I
> know that this has been going on for forever around here, but this
used
> to be a good support source for people with Lyme and it would be nice
to
> see it return to that again. We are all impaired one way or another
and
> even those who may or may not be very impaired often have information
to
> offer. Even me sometimes!
We've been trying to have intelligent substantive discussions around
here lately.
Until kathLOON came back and started posting 24/7 about god knows what
but NOT about Lyme.
> Just a suggestion.
>
> Seriously, I am not trying to yell at or chastise or take sides with
> *anyone* but it seems like Lyme patients need to lean on each other
> rather than fight each other.
She's not a Lyme patient.
> And once again, if one doesn't want to
> read someone ( I am sure there are millions out there who have no
> interest in reading about my ability to pee in the woods<g>)
I found that utterly fascinating.
>then I
> suggest the use of a filter. Most newsreaders have them, they have
saved
> me time in the past. I don't use them often but I do sometimes.
>
> Peace,
> Ruth
Peace to you ruth. Glad you're in better spirits.
kathleen
to comment on Weisman calling you kooks?
Lyme is a brain disease, I have Lyme,
my kids are congenitally infected, I have
autism, kids who are sick may be misdiagnosed
with something psychiatric, DCF may take the
kids or incarcerate the parents if they are sick
because DCF is famous for their "arrogance and
ineptitude" says Judge Carmen Lopez, and exhibit
"callous and reckless indifference to the effects
of trauma on children" and "are irresponsible
parents" who "lack common sense," says Jeane
Milstein, The Child Advocate, in CT.
CT DCF Psychiatrist Patricia Leebens said I
was insane to be saying "Rowland should be
impeached" for what he is going to jail over.
DMHAS perjured themselves and said I don't have
Lyme and Lyme is not a brain disease, after Judge
McMahon said, "Lyme is known to cause ALL SORTS
of psychiatric symptoms," and ordered me to be treated
for Lyme as a condition of my release from charges
which were 100% fraudulent.
The "case" was then moved to New Britain (Tomassoville),
and a new judge.
Answering why I cross-post, but especially I do
so, because Psychiatry is not a medical practice
and is a diabolical tool, instead. Used against
people who say they are chronically ill, primarily.
Insurance companies are well aware of this, and will
only pay for a long term disability, for two years,
if the diagnosis is CRAZY.
THUS, The Social Security Administration is also
defrauded by Lyme and these insurance companies.
Be aware of the hazards. They don't call us
Corrupticut for no reason. Yale is here, and
Hartford is the Insurance Capital of Earth.
Prisoners are abused, and Rowland is sentenced to jail
because of a DCF racket of jail-building for children.
His crooked friends could get 20 years.
These are facts and not an opinion.
Note that Yale is infamous for saying Lyme is
CRAZY:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Lyme+anxiety+Yale&btnG=Google+Search
Walk out the door of your General Practioner's
office if you become ill, and he starts asking
about your personal life. This is how they don't
find treatable illnesses early. Everything is
ANXIETY and STRESS.
The Academy of Insurance Medicine's Protocol
for denial of care: No tests. No diagnosis.
No treatment. No malpractice lawsuit.
Parents are also not informed that vaccines should
not be given to immune suppressed infants. HIV
infected children are given fully heat killed
vaccines for this reason. Human IMMUNODEFICIENCY
Virus.
So, if you have a kid, ASK about it, if the kid is
about to receive a vaccination. Ask to have the answer
in writing.
Watch the pediatrician panic.
Kathleen
Greegor
Congratulations on Rowland.
Did you help get him out of office?
News media reported there are 5 or 6 other
state governors getting run out of office for corruption.
kathleen
noted to be the catalyst. That, and the
diligence of Nora Dannehy.
I let the world know that the
DCF kidnapped my kids with an order
that said I was insane and dangerous
for saying Rowland needed to be impeached
for what he is now going to jail for, in
October, 2003.
Certainly the conditions of my release
(since I had to plead guilty or be civilly
committed- due to the nonstop perjury, and
the fact that the lawyer I had, was also the
Chairman of the Berlin Republican Town
Committee- which was why I got reassigned
him), that I not "criticize the government"
not local, not state, not federal, which is
the same thing as saying I have no First
Amendment rights, which proves this was
political.
I did not commit any crimes, but the state
tried, literally, 16 or 17 times to either
commit me or arrest me. I had a serious
lawsuit against a Yale Psychiatrist- a Clinical
Professor of Psychiatry at Yale.
'Who I thought would be interested in Lyme,
since it is a brain disease. But I was much
mistaken. I knew far more about brains than
he did, it turns out.
My Republican lawyer lost my DCF case for
me on purpose. Since he was a Roman Catholic,
I assumed he was a Democrat, since Republicans
are so abusive, and not human rights activists.
Usually.
Not in the Schaivo case, and not on abortion.
My DCF lawyer took all my lawsuits against all
the perjurers and filers of false allegations
and the Town of Stonington, and doctor, until
he realized all the true things I was saying
about Republicans, and until he went golfing with
Cathy Cook (R-Mystic)- who would not help me at all,
but had her hand out to Rowland for HER disabled
son.
He then ran for Republican office in Groton and
won. So tell me he wasn't paid in some way
to lose my "case" for me.
This was obviously political, since everything
on my website was true about Republicans, George
Bush and Tony Blair, and Rowland. And Insurance
Companies. And Yale, the birthplace and alma
mater of our Skull and Bones "war president" (he
referred to himself as wanting to be remembered
as the "war president" in a television interview).
http://www.deadbrain.co.uk/news/article_2004_02_14_0837.php
And UCONN, and who sponsors them (Insurance
companies), and who is on their board (Insurance
companies- namely Ellef and Alibozek's former
employer, CIGNA)...
When the head of DMHAS called me "dangerously
intelligent," I called the DCF "dangerously
stupid," in court, answering the question,
"What did you think of DCF's records, once you
got them?"
FACT.
I was in *shock* that such off the charts stupid
people could draw a state paycheck. The world
should know what they are up against.
(These are facts, now, and not opinion. They
said I don't have Lyme disease, just congenitally
infected kids- which is about as stupid as it
gets. I got the principal attorney for New
Haven DCF, Sarah Gibson fired for lying to the
Commission on Human Rights and Statewide Bar
Counsel. The kidnapping was political and
retaliatory.)
When I finally got all my IQ tests, required
by SSD and my insurance company, which was not
until later, I realized why I was so confused
about the idiotic opinions of idiots.
The Yale Psychiatrist told me I was autistic
based on my learning what talking was for
by copying my siblings, at age 3 or 4. And
as I said, autism runs in the family.
Later, my lawyer and family informed me that
the reason they all hate me was because of my
high intelligence.
Not being an idiot, myself, I do not understand
that, but have to accept it, since I am autistic.
Stupid people are totally unaware of how stupid
they are. This is the case with my sister and
mother. Who hated me my whole life, because I
am "JUST LIKE YOUR FATHER!!!!"
My "mother" denied the throat slitting allegations
and admitted she made that up, but then later
invented for DCF that I said I would kill myself
if Don Dickson ever got the kids. Which was why
the DCF gave the kids to Don Dickson.
Except that the DCF are so stupid, if Carolyn
Martin delivered such bizarre lies to them and everyone
else in the first place, why would they believe
this other psycho news of hers?
So, I am not responsible for Rowland going down,
public opinion was. But the DCF was involved in
this Rowland racketeering crime, and they do not
want to be investigated for their crimes, and
neither does DMHAS.
Since none of the allegations were true, either
DCF or criminal, the State put considerable effort
into finding a way to put me away forever.
The Rowlandgate crimes are much greater and
deeper and involve several remaining Rowland
appointees, including the US Attorney Kevin
O'Connor, and Chief State's Attorney, Chris
Morano. They go after the little criminals
and leave the big ones in place. And of course,
DCF's former commissioner, Kristine Ragaglia is
still in Blumenthal's office. O'Connor had to
"recuse" himself from the investigation of Rowland.
Figure it out.
I did my best to expose the crimes in the State.
And elsewhere. I reported their asses to
law enforcement continually, but as I explained,
the US Attorney is a friend/appiointee of Rowland's
as is Chris Morano.
I never committed any crimes, and I am allowed
to say so publicly.
Due to the shortcomings in activism,... well
what can I say? We are where we are, and CDC
has been so bold as to infer that anyone who
treats a non-CDC positive case of Lyme, might
not have this treatment paid for:
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5405a6.htm
Rowland got a reduced charge and a reduced
sentence, because the Judge was 1) A Republican
and 2) known to be compassionate, but unpredictable.
This was the same judge who denied my Social
Security lawsuit on the basis of my high
"intelligence" and "coherence." At the exact
same time Yale's Vladimir Coric (look him up)
declared me insane.
He also perjured himself, in a number of ways,
but who cares, that's all that happened in all
my "cases."
I was put away because of all the true things
I said, and there was no other way to shut
me up, than to totally invent all my crimes and
psychopathology. The psychopathology and psychoses
were the prosecutor's, and Coric's, since they
made them up and flat out lied to the courts.
Same with Carolyn Martin, and all the perjurers.
They are free now, and DCF and Middletown Superior
Court informed me that DCF has never prosecuted
false allegations. DCF entirely threw out their
first petition against me, and the second petition
asserted I was insane to be saying Lyme is RICO,
when Blumenthal's other staff lawyers agreed that
it was, and referred me to US Attorney Kevin
O'Connor.
Figure it out. Who is insane around here?
So, if some idiot social worker knocks on your
door, remember not to let them in, and that DCF
follows you around in their cars, and bugs your
phones.
Since this is TRUE, it is not an opinion nor
am I criticizing the government, but doing Lyme
activism, and human rights activism, I can post
about it. I am criticizing the behavior of
individuals in the government- DCF. (If I run
across a decent and competent DCF "worker," I
will let everyone know.)
The phone bugging is how they capture all the
extra black children, because "ma babisfathuh"
comes home to roost occasionally, using the phone
to make a drug deal. Whence, DCF and the cops
pounce.
At least that's the commonest story in the women's
prison and is supported by Martha Stone at UCONN
Law and Childrensrights.org
CT DCF has the worst national record for abuse of
families of color in the whole country, is what
Stone wrote.
Bernie Sullivan, a head of a Tomasso company, is
an expert phone bugging ex cop from Hartford and
was involved in COINTELPRO.
http://www.hartfordadvocate.com/gbase/News/content.html?oid=oid:50287
As I said, the corruption in this state is so
entrenched, it will take years, and the retirement
of most of Rowland's appointed judges, to straighten
us out, and there is no incentive for the state to
investigate itself- obviously. It has to come
from Nora Dannehy.
Please DO read this article:
http://www.corporatecrimereporter.com/curryinterview.htm
Don't expect DCF to understand anything medical,
or words with greater than 2 syllables. They
can't even spell caucasian. The DCF "worker" who
told me her dog and grandfather died of Lyme disease
later wanted to know how serious it was, and
asked her co-workers, after I had given her a TON
of information about Lyme, as I did everyone at
DCF and the Department of Health.
In other words, they can't read or spell. And that
goes for their highest level staff members.
Think about it? Do we expect to find any
rocket scientists at DCF? Or anyone who could
otherwise make a career for themselves in some
NORMAL business?
Before the false arrest, DCF recorded that I had a
criminal record and checked off that I have a drug
abuse problem. Neither are of course, true, but
these are the things that go into anyone's permanent
DCF records.
This is why Judge Lopez said DCF executes an
"appalling degree of arrogance and ineptitude."
I would not use such big words around DCF
workers. Or maybe she did that on purpose, so
they wouldn't know they were exposed for what
we are all truly up against.
It was a racket. More kids kidnapped equals
more federal dollars, and that was why Rowland
and friends are going to jail. Children are
cash. Lyme is RICO and is why me and my kids
could get no medical help locally or in school.
If you can believe it, Diane's principal said
"I can't read that," when I handed her this
article in full text.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=9774805
An educator. Can't read that.
Excuse my autism, but shouldn't a school principal
not be stating she can't read something? Or act
like she doesn't care, or is not interested?
So, how INSANE am I do be doing Lyme activism
if I have a kid who has congenital Lyme, Ehrlichiosis
and is cognitively impaired?
This is my *KID* now. She has a future to face.
The others are congenitally infected too, but
they by and large are alright.
I had all the cognitive testing performed on
her twice, for her 504 disability. While I was done
there at Yale Child Study Center, DCF's Leebens, who
also claims to work at Yale Child Study and knows
absolutely NOTHING about either Lyme or autism-
and both are epidemics of brain compromise- decided
I was insane and dangerous.
On the same day I got the Yale 504 report, Nov 21,
2003, which was the same day as the depositions,
where we learned *none* of the stuff reported to DCF
by my sister and mother was true, Leebens decided
to kidnap my kids. DCF had already written a new
petition. I never saw it, but I also read I
was being charged with being a "lake-driver" here
on this newsgroup, posted by McSweegan as
ChuckPAdams. Same day.
Leebens wrote in the order of custody, that my kids
and I are diagnosed with Lyme disease.
DMHAS perjured themselves in the criminal court
and said I don't have Lyme, and that Lyme is not
a brain disease.
So, that's what kind of craziness goes on here.
Doesn't make any sense, does it?
'Because it was all political, and everything I
said and wrote is true. That seems to be the
feature of autism, that so terrifies everyone.
I am not a sleazy neurotypical, but what other kind
of person would you like to see employed by the
pharmaceutical company YOU buy your drugs from,
but one who won't cave to the bullshit?
Is medical science now just about destroyed?
Do we believe anything the CDC says?
No.
Does FDA and NIH have an integrity problem?
Yes.
Does it make any sense to destroy a half-way
decent scientist? One who was there, when we
had a dangerous and totally BOGUS "pharmaceutical"
about to be deployed on children?
http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/01/slides/3680s2_11.pdf
(Credit the person who drove me.)
Best answered by other questions:
"Does she live in Corrupticut (competing
for Biotech Capital status) and was it
Yale's dangerous "pharmaceutical" ?
Remember Rowland promoted science and the Science
Center, and he gets credit for that, but what
kind of science did we really get?
http://www.whale.to/m/lymerix8.html
THE SECOND BIGGEST MEDICAL FRAUD IN HISTORY.
After Psychiatry.
McSweegan ought to write fact, rather than
fiction, because this true tale is more bizarre
that certainly *I* could have ever imagined.
But then, he was a major part of this crime,
and the Insurance Company influenced corruption
in the State, as was Yale.
It would be a bit too autobiographical, than
McSweegan's sentiment towards the FBI would allow:
http://www.washingtondispatch.com/printer_9829.shtml
Immigration Canada and the Royal Canadian Mounted
Police said they thought I would be an asset to
my country.
Then I had to explain about Rowland being
impeached and O'Connor his appointee, but THAT
they had a hard time believing.
Yessir the Governor of the wealthiest state
in the wealthiest country in the world is going
to prison for being part of a criminal racket
involving the trafficking in small humans,
pediatric jail building, stiffing the tax
payers for a position as head of the Grand
Old Party's Gov Assn (ENRON), and for other
wheels and deals.
And "Callous and reckless indifference to... the
effects of trauma on children." Jeane Milstein-
The Child Advocate.
He got a light sentence though, because he is
a family-man, so they say. Meanwhile, we threw
another $58 million at DCF this year, for more
of the same, um, service.
I'm trying to think of one accomplishment
Rowland could actually claim. We have more crime
in Hartford, the middle class people are gone,
those fancy new buildings in Hartford are empty,
we didn't get the Patriots, I-95 is still
horrendous, ... Maybe the FBI will move their
corruption investigation training school here.
They have earned these accolades:
"They have had incredible success," Austin J. McGuigan, a former chief
state prosecutor, said of the federal law enforcement record on
government corruption in Connecticut. "I don't know where else in the
country this record is equaled. It is a stellar record."
and 6 of 22 goals:
http://www.courant.com/news/local/statewire/hc-15013230.apds.m0590.bc-ct--dcfomar15,0,4350486.story
"DCF is under court oversight as the result of a 1989 class-action
lawsuit that alleged the state was violating federal law by not
adequately protecting children. The agency is required to meet 22 goals
by November 2006 to leave court oversight. To date, DCF has met six of
these goals, according to the report."
And we got a science center... I wonder if we
are allowed to make a recommendation as to who
will be required to attend? 'Not enough
big-word-users, here. DCF said I do "bizarre
talking."
Oooh Sorry, I'll be stupid insted, so day
can unnuhstan me. Maybe if I promiss not
to says big words and never ever say
"pharmaceutical" agin, an ispeshally, so
I kin be a good parrent, will be of bigger
gooderness now, if incase of stuff kin
happins like. An for more betterness of
parrentige, an will try not to use illegul
drugs if DCF can find them for me next, cuz
they has them.Too. I readed. You can get
a dog here but it bites. thank you America.
Kathleen
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WitchWirsen
I mean, seriuosly.
Who would 'my' experts be?
Secondly, I have just as many drug addict fuck ups in my family as I do good
guys, and those that have spent time in jail, a good number of them, get
better health care than I do.
One went out and pulled off some awesomely BAD robberies, went to jail, got
his teeth fixed, his meds, etc, all for free, meanwhile, I worked a job that
had no benefits and from Oct to Jan spent almost $11,000 trying to get a
diagnosis for a neurological disorder and pay for pain meds.
Even John Gotti got better medical care while he was out there than I have
ever had.
And Charles Manson.
And many many more.
Those ARE the facts.
You might THINK that prison health care is atrocious, but you are wrong.
Do ya think it's a spiffy idea for us to incarcerate someone, say, with
AIDS, and spend several thousand per month on their helath care when they
have progressed to a point that medications really aren't going to help them
anymore?
I don't know much about your 'lyme' crusade, but I know that if you think
inmates don't get good health care, you are wrong, and if you think that the
rest of us, especially those of us with little to no health care who pay
taxes to keep up those same inmates, appreciate the fact that inmates are
treated better than we are, you are mistaken.
And that, dear, IS sticking to the FACTS.
:)
"kathleen" <kathleen...@snet.net> wrote in message
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WitchWirsen
"Jurassic Pierogi" <jurassic...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "WitchWirsen" <johnc...@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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>> You are full of shit.
>> Inmates get better medical care in the state of Missouri than working
>> citizens who have committed no crimes.
>>
>> And coming from a family filled with law enforcement, and one LE of over
>> 50
>> years, I resent your remarks about how they operate.
>> It's hogwash.
>
> And seeing that 80% are dopers, I would imagine meeting one of your
> family LEO's would turn out to be a bad day for just about anyone.
My generation. 80% or so, including our spouses.
My mothers generation, and her parents generation is a whole different
matter.
My grandfathers brother, for instance, was a constable in the same county
for over 50 years.
My cousin, aunts son, is a guard at a prison.
And there are more, sadly, the druggies out number these days.
And no, you would never see anyone in my family stand around laughing while
someone lay dying on a floor.
And no, you wouldn't even see them tickled at an addict having DT's.
Not the LEs, and not the Druggies.
kathleen
What neurological disorder?
Lyme treatment costs $12,000+ a month, and is a
disease that is identical to Multiple Sclerosis
and can cause Lou Gehrig's disease, and this is
FACTUAL.
You may not know that because Lyme is "controversial."
You really should check out the links I post, because
they are sound.
It's best to find out if you have Lyme, than
be treated for the wrong disease. See Georgia's
posts. I also recommend contacting either Pat Smith
at the Lyme Disease Association
http://www.lymediseaseassociation.org/
or here
http://www.ILADS.org
or here
http://www.columbia-lyme.org
The "Controversy"
http://www.columbia-lyme.org/flatp/controv.html
But we *do* have a definitive test- Yale's Borrelia
antiflagellin antibody test, or any borrelia specific
flagellin. It is just not used because it will find
Lyme in 95%-100% of the cases.
When the bad guys of Lyme want to find the spirochete
they use chromosomally incoded antigens. The current
Osps are useless, because of antigenic variation,
especially in Late Neurologic Lyme.
I hope this helps.
An outstanding article on the main problems with prisons
(too many people are in there, who are innocent):
http://www.courant.com/news/local/northeast/hc-deathpen0109.artjan09,0,5749037.story?coll=hc-utility-local-northeast
"I thought of this affair as the ultimate farce of Connecticut justice
until I involved myself in the more recent Haddam-Killingworth bus
arson case. The torching of $500,000 worth of school buses in 1994 led
police to a teenager named David Saraceno. A 10-hour, high-pressure
state police interrogation forced false admissions that were neither
written down at the time nor recorded.
Saraceno was convicted and imprisoned but later released after a
private investigation discovered that the prosecutor was protecting
four other young men who almost certainly did the crime. The chief
state's attorney's office uncomfortably joined the defense in a motion
to overturn Saraceno's conviction.
This should have freed the youth from further jeopardy. Instead, in
1999, under threat of extending the legal nightmare that had already
cost his parents $100,000, Saraceno accepted guilt for "hindering
prosecution by falsely confessing."
Under the statute of limitations, the state had allowed the five-year
window for prosecuting the known suspects to close. No one except the
wrong man did jail time for the crime.
The law officer most responsible for compelling Saraceno to declare it
was all his fault is Chief State's Attorney Christopher Morano. "
Kathleen