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Subject: NIH's Prime Spy, spies on his own co-workers
Date: Feb 29, 2008 2:10 PM
Karen Forschner of the Lyme.org conversing with Crazy Eddie McSweegan,
in which
it was revealed that he stalks and harasses even his own co-workers:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.diseases.lyme/msg/c5e50e5b067b2565?dmode=source
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Anon:
Sorry you have so much confused and incorrect. Why would you keep
attributing
statements to me, that you know I did not say? You need to be
accurate.
My concern is that you are fixated on me, and that fixation is
increasing.
Including increasing over the internet.
Ed did say "Buzz-off Karen." Not very mature. And, I did not go up to
him. I
noticed him after I was talking with Phil Baker. And, he was there
with Phil.
I wonder how his lawsuit against NIH is going. Is he claiming
conspiracy again?
And, the document was missing when it was FOI'd. Ed even sent an
email to the
reporter, asking why she was interested in the document(s). But, I
guess you
know this.
You state "I heard both conversations went badly." What do you think
you
"heard"? Now, be careful, because you need to cite first hand
information,
not
gossip. Who told you the information, Phil or Ed?
Lastly, I admit that I did cry during the deposition. Yup. It was
during a
reading of material Ed admitted writing, that mocked our dead son and
pets.
And, a number of such writings were done WHILE he was a public
official
working at NIH as LD Project Officer.
I was also surprised that Ed, (while a Public Official and LD Program
Officer)
was tracking my parents address and phone numbers; my home address and
phone
numbers; my travel agent's information; employee names, home
addresses, home
phone numbers; my movements while working for the LDF; and had been at
the
LDF's office.
He even had tracked down and talked with a person working with Dr. Joe
Burrascano. Keeping their informtion in his files. I was also
surprised to see
his point system, giving himself a score when he was able to harm/
interfere
with an LDF/Karen initiative. This was happening while he was the LD
project
officer.
When was he working? And, who else did he track that he wasn't caught
tracking?
Anon, if you plan to cite depositions I suggest this format.
These are regarding various charges Ed made about the LDF. Ed's
deposition.
Q's
are by lawyers to Ed. A's are Eds answers.
p229 lines 11-13.
"Q. But you have no factual basis to rely on?
A. Not at the moment."
p 288 lines 1-8
"Q. And what was your basis for saying this may invite investigation
and
prosecution?
(ed -accusing the LDF of a wide range of things while NIH LD Program
Office)
A. Clairvoyance.
Q. Anything else?
A. Wishful thinking. I don't know.
Q. Clairvoyance and wishful thinking, okay. Anything else's?
A. No, I didn't have any knowledge of anything related to
investigations at
the
time."
p 147 lines 15-22 p 148 lines 1-6
"Q. Are the things you've said about them, the Forschners or the
Foundation,
that you believe to be true but that you didn't necessarily follow up
on and
check yourself before you made those statements?
A. For example?
Q Anything
A. I don't think so.
Q In other words, if you made a statement about the Forschners or the
Lyme
Disease Foundation that you didn't have personal knowledge about, did
you make
an inquiry about it before you would make that statement in writing or
orally
to make sure it was accurate?
A. Yes, but, in fact, I have no personal knowledge of anything."
The LDF received a lot of material from Ed during the time he was
suing the
LDF. Much of this crossed lines from NIH to CDC and to the FDA. Ed
appeared
to be very concerned with the activities of various people and we were
not the
only ones to receive threats, retaliation, or reporting to federal
authorities.
His own colleagues and a grantee was included as targets to be turned
in to
federal, state, and local officials accused of serious wrongdoing.
It wasn't just the LDF.
-----Original Message-----
>From: Kathleen <janmu...@earthlink.net>
>Sent: Feb 29, 2008 1:54 PM
>Subject: NIH's Edward McSweegan plays the victim wile clearly admitting
to being a stalker and criminal, LOL
>
>This guy is clearly crazy, because he clearly admits he has been stalking Lyme
activists for years - by quoting us and saving records of all we post
- and now
says someone told him to have a look at LymeNet, as if he has never
done that before.
He spends 24/7 online stalking us and posting with remailers to hide
his address.
He has only one topic- harassing Lyme victims.
>
>It's not like he's a scientist or anything, or has any work to do:
>http://www.actionlyme.org/index.htm
>http://www.actionlyme.org/08_Feb_top_AL_pages.htm
>
>Kathleen M. Dickson
>Oh, and I was falsely arrested by Gauvin, which everyone can see with their
own eyeballs:
>http://www.actionlyme.org/GAUVIN_DEATH_PENALTY.htm
>I wonder if Sweeg gave her the idea, since they're been playing that victim
game since day one:
>http://groups.google.com/group/scilyme2/browse_frm/thread/f25b0c432bddbb3b?hl=en#
>
>"I need more than rumors to attack"
>http://www.actionlyme.org/TICK_BITE_CONSPIRACY.htm
>======================
>
>
>http://id50.blogspot.com/2008/02/lyme-fora.html
>
>February 29, 2008
>Lyme Fora
>
>Last year, a colleague suggested I check out one of the online Lyme discussions
groups. She was a regular reader and thought it was a good way to keep
up with what
was going on--politically, culturally and medically--within the Lyme
Disease Movement.
>
>And she was right. LymeNet, for example, frequently provides a window into the
planned political activities of various groups and individuals in
Pennsylvania,
Maryland, and other states. So I suppose reading through some of the
postings was
useful in developing responses to Lymee statements and activities
regarding potential
state and national legislation.
>
>At the same time, reading this stuff usually left me with a sharp pain between
the eyes. I'm not sure which caused the most pain: the stunning level
of ignorance
demonstrated by most regular forum posters, or the nearly pathological
hatred directed
at anyone who is not a part of the community of believers.
>
>These online Lyme forums are what the sociologist Susan Jacoby might call "a
toxic brew of anti-rationalism and ignorance."
>
>So it comes as no great surprise to find these message boards strewn with gibberish
masquerading as fact, and common sense relegated to the kill-file by
puritanical
censors. Aside from spelling the word "Lyme" correctly (though even
that doesn't
always happen) these online forums offer no scientific or medical
information that
can be described as evidence-based. Visitors seeking factual
information would be
better off standing on a street corner and shouting questions to
random strangers;
one of whom actually might be a doctor or scientist, whereas the
online members
appear to consist of a small, self-selected coven of untrained
amateurs whose knowledge
of medicine and science is no deeper than their online access to
PubMed abstracts.
>
>Still, some level of ignorance is understandable; not everyone wants to spend
his or her life in medical or grad school.
>
>What's harder to comprehend is the venomous hatred directed at anyone who is
not in mindless lockstep with the beliefs and practices of these self-
diagnosed
Lyme patients and self-appointed Lyme activists. Maybe this virtual
gang of patient
wannabes is the first example of a kind of online 'medical
fundamentalism' with
its own dogma, prophets, and true believers, and a need to suppress
any doubters
or heresies. Every cult and conspiracy needs enemies.
>
>What's remarkable about this irrational hatred is that it comes from a population
that is largely made up of white, middle-aged, middle-class women with
some college
education (at least according to website demographics). Where do these
mothers,
wives and grandmothers get the kind of foaming rage normally
associated with neo-Nazis
and fundamentalist preachers?
>
>I don't know. Certainly, it's not a symptom of Lyme Borreliosis. If it were,
I'd be in favor of long-term antibiotic treatments. Hell, I'd even pay
for some
of it.
>
>That relentless hatred plays out in both the real world and the Internet. Over
the years, numerous doctors, scientists, and public health officials
have been subjected
to mindless harassment. People have been stalked, threatened, and been
the recipients
of death threats. Police and security personnel have had to be present
at scientific
lectures and grand rounds presentations. Other Lyme disease meetings
have been canceled
or moved to avoid protestors. Universities have been picketed.
Academic physicians
have been pilloried. Uncooperative state legislators have been
harassed. Lyme activists
have called and written to directors and deans alleging employee
misconduct and
conflicts of interest. ("In addition to letter writing, another way to
"tell
it where it counts" is to contact... bosses. Unless it is made known to
people
other than ourselves, our views will not be effective....") Lawsuits are
threatened
on a regular basis (and one was actually filed, but failed). Lyme
disease activists
even have organized negative book reviews on Amazon.com to drive down
book sales
of authors they don't like.
>
>Online, anyone who is not a part of the Lyme Omma is regularly subjected to
relentless libel, anti-Semitic rants, and wild distortions of fact.
Many others
are accused of an incredible array of crimes, including mass murder,
stalking, harassment,
and various criminal conspiracies involving insurance companies, Big
Pharma, and
secret government experiments. All of it is done with gleeful
irresponsibility and
the demented encouragement of other patients and activists. (Some of
my favorite
Lyme Movement "facts" about me include the following: I am dead,
divorced, "heavily
invested in Insurance Companies, and SmithKline," work for Glaxo, hunt
bears, went
to Rutgers University, work for CDC, work for SmithKline, am a
"bioweapons expert"
and I'm "guilty of deaths on three continents." Apparently, I've lived
quite an
exciting life...except for that period when I was dead. The above
comments are pure
fantasy--or wishful thinking--but then reality to Lyme activists is a
lot like fog;
ignore it and it'll fade away.)
>When the Executive Director of the American Lyme Disease Foundation (ALDF) died
suddenly, the Cult of Lyme was ecstatic. Members merrily wrote: "Glad
he is dead.
Hope more will follow soon. fuck david weld. I hope he suffered
terrible mental
and physical pain in his last days." "Why don't you save your tears
for someone
who deserves them, rather than someone who made a career out of
causing them in
others?" "I wonder how weld's decrepit soul is holding up in the world
of eternal
hellfire and damnation." "I...have experienced great feelings of joy at
the demise
of this monstrous human being."
>
>And what horrible crimes did Mr. Weld commit that he should be so reviled? I
have no idea. He just ran a foundation dedicated to educating more
people about
Lyme disease and encouraging more research. Maybe he wasn't fanatical
enough about
it. The new ALDF director won't be either, so he can expect much the
same abuse
and scorn from the more rabid members of Lyme patient/activist groups.
>
>"I don't know why they hate me so much," another colleague related
in a newspaper article last year. It's a question any of us (however
remotely connected
to research, medicine or activism) could ponder.
>
>Posted by E.M. at 12:25
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