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Mort Zuckerman

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Subject: "We're the CDC and we're a bunch of incompetent, lying
idiots."

Date: Apr 29, 2009 6:35 AM

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Thank you. That's long for "We're the CDC
and we're a bunch of incompetent, lying idiots."

Yesterday Glenn Greenwald produced an excellent
story on how the CDC is accountable and can be
prosecuted like the Torturing Bushies. See the
ActionLyme homepage because this happens to be
today's topic.

And don't forget, we got Volkman, Donta, and "Mutated
Lymphocytes-Duray,"
http://www.actionlyme.org/PAM3CYS_IMMUNE_SUPPRESSION.htm
who were players for the whole history of
this crime. And we got Liegner who performed
the autopsy stings of the CDC and the Mayo Clinic
(yet another "philanthropy" like the Rockefellers'
and Robert Woods Johnson):
http://www.actionlyme.org/BRAIN_PERMANENT.htm

Barbour, Steere, Johnson, Klempner are CDC officers
and of course, Dearborn was a international "negligent
homicide" crime scene.

This is all in addition to the fact that these idiots
were making hysterical claims about a bird flu when all
you have to do is looking at the binding sites and
the comparative receptors between human and the avian
and swine tissue to see that it would take a lesser
mutation for a swine flu pandemic.

This is all in addition to the idiocy of 1 in 166
children becoming permanently brain damaged from
forced vaccinations against Rubella and the Measles.


These CDC people are lying, dangerous REtards, in short,
and *all* of them need to go, like the CIA needs to go.


It was a good idea to have intelligence agencies but this
country cannot produce viable - intelligent - humans for
the positions.


Kathleen M. Dickson
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Subject: [SpinLyme] CDC sits on documents
Date: Apr 29, 2009 12:40 AM

http://www.ajc.com/health/content/metro/stories/2009/04/26/spotlight_cdc_documents.html
CDC sits on documents
By ALISON YOUNG

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Sunday, April 26, 2009

Employees at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have
generated about 4,000 pages of documents assessing risks to the
agency's reputation posed by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution's
reporting.

But the CDC is keeping those records secret, despite directives from
the Obama administration that federal agencies presume government
records are open to the public under the federal Freedom of
Information Act.

. Send us an e-mail with comments, questions or ideas

Release of the CDC records "would interfere with the agency's
deliberative process and have a chilling effect on employee
discussions," CDC freedom of information officer Lynn Armstrong said
in a letter sent this month to the AJC.
The AJC asked for the documents in January 2007, after the newspaper
learned that the agency was conducting risk analyses of this
reporter's news-gathering rather than releasing information of
interest to the public. At the time, the AJC was pursuing stories
about morale problems and an exodus of key scientists from the Atlanta-
based agency, CDC's chaotic response to Hurricane Katrina, lab animal
welfare violations and costly taxpayer-funded construction projects at
the agency's campus on Clifton Road.

For complex document requests, the CDC reports that its median
processing time is just 38 days (and just 11 days for simple
requests). But several AJC requests have been pending for a year; some
for more than two years.

The newspaper learned CDC staff were performing risk assessments on my
reporting after a copy of one of the SWOT - strengths, weaknesses,
opportunities and threats - assessment memos was leaked in the fall of
2006. A few weeks earlier, the AJC requested documents about a $10
million no-bid contract; CDC officials directed an employee to analyze
threats if the information became public. The firm that got the
contract was associated with and recommended by a volunteer adviser to
then-CDC Director Julie Gerberding.

According to the leaked memo: "No assurance that CDC received the best
value solution to its concerns because [of the] procurement process
used." It noted a "potential conflict of interest" and said "Negative
publicity will further question top CDC management, as it was so
involved in the early process."

After publishing an article about this memo, the AJC filed its January
2007 FOIA request for all other such memos and risk documents. CDC had
released nothing until this month, when it sent a response by FedEx on
April 1 that contained 46 pages of documents, most of which were
copies of articles published in the AJC or other publications, and a
letter denying access to about 4,000 other pages of records.

On Jan. 21 - his first full day in office - President Barack Obama
issued a memo to all federal agencies reinforcing the importance of
the Freedom of Information Act. Government transparency is important
to democracy, he said.

"The Government should not keep information confidential merely
because public officials might be embarrassed by disclosure, because
errors and failures might be revealed, or because of speculative or
abstract fears," Obama said in the memo.

Until recently, federal agencies operated under a 2001 directive
issued by then-Attorney General John Ashcroft. His memo directed
agencies to emphasize protecting institutional, commercial and privacy
interests over public disclosure.

Obama's memo and additional guidelines issued in March by Attorney
General Eric Holder instructed federal agencies to focus on releasing
information.

Based on anecdotal reports of documents being released, the openness
directives seem to be working, said Lucy Dalglish, executive director
of the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, which is based in
Washington.

In recent weeks, other federal agencies have released or agreed to
release controversial records about terrorism interrogation tactics
and bird-airplane collisions. So why did the CDC withhold in their
entirety 4,000 pages of documents about the AJC's reporting?

Armstrong and CDC risk communication specialist Barbara Reynolds
declined to be interviewed. Reynolds works in the CDC Office of
Enterprise Communication, which has a stated mission that includes
"environmental scanning to determine emerging threats to the agency's
reputation."

The Freedom of Information Act presumes that government records belong
to the people and only allows information to be withheld for a few,
limited reasons, such as national security or to protect trade secrets
or medical privacy.

The law allows agencies - at their discretion - to withhold certain
internal agency records involving advice, recommendations or opinions
that are part of the decision-making process. This is the exemption
CDC cites.

"This is the area where there is the greatest potential for increased
disclosure," said Melanie Ann Pustay, director of the office of
information policy at the U.S. Department of Justice. Her office has
been conducting training sessions on the new policy.

Officials at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, the
CDC's parent agency, said employees who handle FOIA requests have been
briefed on the new policies.

"HHS is committed to honoring FOIA requests in a manner that ensures
our department is open, transparent and respects the FOIA," spokesman
Nick Papas said. "If The Atlanta Journal-Constitution decides to
appeal the CDC decision on the case in question, that appeal will be
reviewed at the department level."

The AJC has appealed.


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K------Yes there are abunch of incompetent, lying idiots. A bunch
of dumb like a fox idiots - and that goes tor the FDA - CDC- and Dept
of Health and Human Services. Crooked as Ben Ladin's walking
stick........Liars , cover-ups and actually criminals.

Mort Zuckerman

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May 2, 2009, 4:23:38 AM5/2/09
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Consider how *stupid* Allen Steere is.
That's really all one needs to know aboud duh CDC.

I can't even imagine who gave him an MD degree.
Must have been Yale.
K
http://www.actionlyme.org

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Yes - enough to make one vomit. When the CDC sent him to ck out
in Conn. etc. (all the kids in that area were coming down with
Juvinile Artritis so Polly Murray and her friend pusshed for the gov.
to investigate - they sent the idiot - (draft dodger) to investigate
and really she did most of the sleuth work with her med. background
from college. He said it was from a virus and was prescribing
aspirin- jerk. Then it took a foreigner of course Willey Burgdorfer
(originally from Switzerland) to actually discover the bacteria -
isolate it on a slide.
As I stated before one can find old articles from the late 80's
and early 90's (you have them on your site also) --with article on ser-
negative Lyme - and one of the co-authors is that other snake
Dattyler. Plus quotes from Steere stating sero-negativity is a real
entity plus late stage lyme is like tertiary syphilis.
Originally stupid idiot when he came from CDC to ck things out.
But later he knows what the truth is - but the sidewinder later and in
particular when kind - good - honorable Dr. B. spilled the beans in 93
---------you have it all down --and then later yes like I say again
dumb like a fox and old expression a lady I used to work with used to
say.
It's all about the payoffs - money money and people end up
suffering and dying pitifully because of the devil and his colleagues
-------like I told one doctor "We all have to die and we all have to
answer to the Lord."
Now a little off topic - I am sick of hearing certain people
saying oh as long as we believe that Jesus is our Savior you go to
heaven and "We are all saints" What there sure is a middle place to
serve our time so to speak.

Give me a B-R-E-A-K. And they don't believe in purgatory
really. I suppose if Adolph Hitler before he commited sucicide
believed and stated that yes Jesus is my Savior and yes I believe he
did die on the cross for our sins. Yea but is he sorry for all his
shit. Also I am sick of some of these certain religions saying why
do we pray to saints - you have to go directly to Jesus. It is an
insult to Jesus. Well then why do they also have a prayer list
for the sick etc. in their church having the members pray for the sick
or ill. Bunch of stupid hippocrites. Also why do we pray to
statues blah blah...Well we are praying to a symbol of the person - it
brings closer vibrations and makes our prayer stronger just like using
a real photo of a saint etc. makes our prayer stronger plus they
intercede for to God.
As far as Steere, Dattyler, Siegel, and that other creep -oh
Shapiro ---and what was done to Dr. Jones ------pitiful - I read
that they also were insinuating he had alheimers also. Their day is
coming -------and when that snake Steere stated in that NY Times
article Stalking Steere --Oh I just really feel that way in ref. to
his beliefs.-"Liar" he knows what's what now. It's the payoffs and the
money to keep their fat salaries and institutions going and their
security. ........Keep on feeling that way till they feel the
burning of the hot coals on their feet. Oh I forgot Klemper plus
all the other desert sidewinders you mentioned
above...................and that B Shapiro stating in the Under our
Sking documentary "I never saw such a disease that is soooooooooo
politicalcized - it a doure deje disease - and there is no such thing
as a baby getting the disease by fetal transmission. I actually
think all those creeps are possessed by the devil - period...........

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