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"Stalking" Mark Klempner with a tape recorder- The Lyme Crymes, self-explained by Mark Klempner

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Peenies, Peenies, Peenies, My Name is Chuck and I love McSweenies'

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Mar 19, 2007, 12:17:46 PM3/19/07
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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:00:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: "LymeQ Ween" <lyme...@yahoo.com>


Subject: Re: [SpinLyme] My response to "Lyme Disease, the Public
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It's their own published data which indicts them.

That will be how the crime will be charged.

McSweegan and Fish got these jerks to publish
this nonsense because they have been caught.
'Found out.

If you look at McSweegan's blog, he has no argument
against the charges. His (and his *alone*) is ld-50.blogspot.

Remember: It is the crooks' own data that indicts
them. They all said Lyme was very serious before they
changed their minds. If you want to know who was involved
from the beginning, it is all laid out on my website, in the
data I gave the CT US Attorney going on 4 years ago now.
http://www.actionlyme.org/USDOJ_COMPLAINT_RICO.htm
And which still sits in his office.

What I told the FDA in Jan 01 was exactly true and is
still true today, except for the part where we did not know
about how OspA caused immune suppression or tolerization
to fungi and related antigens, but if there is an epidemic
of asthma related to molds, there is surely a presentation
at the other end of the genetic spectrum. Asthma is an
inflammatory response.

You should listen to the Klempner tape, because he
explains it all very well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPn_T9qy4C0&mode=related&search=

He says:
http://www.actionlyme.org/Klempner_DQB1_0602.html

"Um, some people will view this as bad news, some will view it as good
news, and some people will say, well, where do we go from here?" I
think that really is the question, really is to coalesce and say,
"where do we go from here?

"Um, There, these patients obviously, are very, very much interested
in that question, as we are, and I just want to highlight a
preliminary piece of data of where we think we're going from here,
unpublished*, and not for large, uh, dissemination, but here is the
preliminary data. ...
And, that is, that when you look for the possibility of an autoimmune
disease, the best way to look is to see if there is any genetic
clustering in HLA haplotypes. The reason for that is the way antigens
get presented in the context of who you are, that is, your HLA
haplotype. And we can talk in some detail about that. Those diseases
that I think everybody would agree are so called Autoimmune :lupus,
rheumatoid arthritis, type 1 diabetes, and perhaps MS, have some clear
genetic clustering that leads us to believe that these are indeed
autoimmune diseases, although we do not satisfy so-called Koch's
Postulates of autoimmune disease that we've written[?-KMD] about. And
the odds ratio for your having that particular HLA type, in the case
of R.A, a DR4, or a DQB0602 to protect you from type 1 diabetes, are
on the order of 3 to 6. One of the ones that is probably highest, of
course, is B27, in patients with alkyloiding spondolytis and the
like. It turns out that if you look at the first 51 patients with
post-treatment chronic Lyme disease, the patient population that
participated in our study, there was a very high incidence of DQB0602
with an odds ratio of 770%. So it may well be that exposure to THAT
organism with THAT background of HLA haplotype may lead you to develop
chronic symptoms. That is a hypothesis that needs to be tested. It
would obviously lead to an entirely new form and approach to therapy.
"


So, there's a lot of data there, that we paid for that we never got.
But they can't say we're not sick after they said we *are* sick, and
then not release this new, and probably valid data.

This is the clearest example of a medical crime ever, this Klempner
tape. Listen to him. Did we know HLA datamining was part of the
grant protocol?

Did Klempner tell us he would be looking for the MS presentation
genetic link in late neurologic Lyme victims ahead of time? Were the
people who participated in this study told their DNA would be
sequenced but that it would be kept as Mark Klempner's personal
secret?

Kathleen

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Mar 19, 2007, 12:51:17 PM3/19/07
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Why do your posts start with the above? It is superfluous information
and it distracts from the content of your messages. Please consider
removing it.

kodok

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Mar 20, 2007, 8:06:46 AM3/20/07
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Peenies, Peenies, Peenies, My Name is Chuck and I love McSweenies' a
écrit :

c'est quoi ce foutoir ? ça présente un intêret quelconque ? Il y a
des Français impliqués ?

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