FRAUDULENT PAGE DEFAMING ME WITH POSTS NOT MINE
califor...@cruzio.com
never seen that website before. I am very upset-
For the first time 10 minutes ago I became aware of a page that not
only disses all Lymies but singles me out and then does worse. On the
old sci.med there was ANOTHER Sarah, her posting name was simply,
Sarah. She was Sarah Ellen if I remember right. She was not I. I
was, at the time, account Sarah_Weiss and email Aram...@cs.com. You
can see her email, check it, it is NOT ME. I did write the suggestion
as follows re getting antibiotics from teh feed store but then the
malicious author of this page links to an old post of Sarahs and mixes
us up. ANYONE who knows me would know this is not me for several
reasons-
A. I didn't have bipolar diagnosis
B. I didn't attempt suicide and end up in a psyche ward
C. I was raised in a different STATE with a different life entirely
and
D. my father was deceased by the time I got a drivers license
E. I was never in Fallons study, never broke my leg, never WROTE
THAT!! AGH!!!
F. I didn't get tick bite when I was 8, etc.
But this page is a MALICIOUS attempt to defame me and I have to say, I
am shaking and upset.
I don't know how long it has been up. I am consulting a lawyer- my
brother and sister-in-law, Uncle and Aunt are all lawyers- and am
very deeply offended by this. This site is horrible, horrible and
this write-up is a clear intent to defame me- using a mental health
history that is NOT MINE.
Sincerely,
Sarah
who has NEVER BROKEN HER LEG, who was raised all over the place but
never New York, whose father was very dead by the time I had a car,
who NEVER attempted suicide to be placed in a psyche hospital and who
WAS evaluated by a psychiatrist when I didn't get 100% in 30 days of
abx and who was found to be mentally NORMAL
http://id50.blogspot.com/2008/01/lymees-hard-to-kill-harder-to.html
And then there's some barnyard advice from another long-time Lyme nut:
It is what I would do if I didn't have a doctor!
* feed stores- tell them you have a goat that weighs as much as you
do!!!
* animal abx from online
I wonder what kind of doctor this poor wrecked creature has these
days? Some quack LLMD or perhaps a New Age California guru? From her
own tedious online confessions one learns that she attempted suicide
several years ago after her parents threatened to take away her car
and access to the Internet. ("When I was in the hospital after the
suicide attempt I was in the psych ward. [F]or any who don't know, it
is a locked wing of the hospital...." Thanks. We might have guessed as
much.) Despite--as she claims--watching her parents reduced to tears
over her and having doctors tell her to her face that she was nuts,
she seems to have abandoned a credible diagnosis of bipolar disorder
in favor of a self-diagnosis of a permanent tick-borne infection, and
abandoned useful neuropsychiatric medications for all the antibiotics
she can get her hands on. Probably that includes goat antibiotics.
By herself, this person would be just one more tragic tale of one more
misguided fool avoiding reality and a chance at a relatively normal
and healthy life. But the greater tragedy is her relentless presence
on the Internet, giving unsought advice to equally confused and
ignorant people; and providing blithe, pseudo-intellectual
interpretations of medical and scientific findings, of which she has
absolutely no understanding. The depth of her ignorance and the scope
of her mindless commentary are breathtaking. If only her parents had
managed to cut off her access to the Internet!
UNQUOTE- and the words in the above- "suicide attempt" are linked to
THIS post which was by the OTHER Sarah NOT ME!!! If it was ME there
would have been *)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have always written that way-*!*)!
*)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
She just uses a ~Sarah and at the time I ALWAYS signed off Sarah*) If
you know me, read this, this is NOT my life.
AGH!!!!!!!!AS FOLLOWS- the other Sarah (who was really nice but it's
HER life NOT MINE!!! I HAVE MY OWN LIFE!)
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ok first off here I'd just like to start by saying that getting my
story out
like this does make me happy. Why? you may ask? Well there is a
singer/songwriter that has impacted my life very much. Her name is
Ani
Difranco. One of her lyrics that sticks out to me here that puts the
perfect words to what I am trying to say is; "I hope somewhere some
woman
hears my music and it helps her through her day.." Now put lymie in
there
instead of woman and maybe you can understand why I am sharing so much
of my
story.
ok now on to the answers lol. I was actually a part of one of Dr.
Fallon's
studies, he is a brilliant man! (I can find out the exact name of the
one I
was a part of if you'd like) I think my family has a lot to do with
why I
am so strong and well grounded so far. They really have been some of
the
only ones fighting for me here so I do have to give them a lot of
credit. I
do have my moments of insanity, as every true lymie does. There are
days I
cry for hours wondering why I am fighting so hard for something no one
can
prove to me will ever end. I cry about that a lot. I sit and cry
about how
emotionally detached from the world I find myself getting.
-------
You thank your psychologist for keeping you sane. What does he do
that
helps you? How is he different from the psychs that DIDN'T help
you?
I think the main thing he does is admits he doesn't know everything,
to me
that's key to any doctor I'm with though. I had been to a few before
him
and one thing I've noticed about myself that I've kinda analyzed
myself(though could just all be my views here) is that as a lymie I'm
as bad
at manipulating people as addicts are. It's sad in many ways I guess,
but
helped me weed out psychs lol. I've noticed most try to make you
feel
smaller, or worse than them for even being there. That's not what's
going
to help a young person with lyme. Especially ones that have gone
misdx'ed
for so long. I think that's what made me into such a good manipulator.
(it's
a harsh word but I can't think of a better one) I learned at a young
age
that the only way to get through life is to be just like everyone
else, the
more you say you are sick the more they don't believe you.. the sicker
you
look the more questions people ask. I don't know about any of you as
lymies
but I just have an urge to slap people who ask how I'm feeling.. or
that say
"oh you look so much better" .. I know these people don't mean
anything by
it and don't know any better.. but I still get frustrated. So I've
learned
how to not look sick and to keep my complaining(to people outside my
family)
to a bare minimum.
What else helps me? well the music I listen to plays a big role of
keeping
me sane, as does the internet. I have been on the internet as long as
I've
known I had lyme.. for a while they tried to say I had an internet
addiction
and it was harmful to my health.. blah blah blah. The don't
understand what
this does for me. This lets me get out how I feel and not have people
laugh.
this lets me think out what I want to say so I can get it right. Now
more
than ever this is the one of the only ways I get to keep in contact
with all
my friends.. with all the ones that have gone off to college.. even
the
friends down the street. Art is another thing that helps me. Art is
so
important to kids.. it lets them express how they feel even when they
can't
put words to it.. I could go on for hours about this but this is
already
long enough lol.
As for the abx, you will hear a very biased side of the argument from
me.. I
can only tell MY experiences though. So far every medication I have
ever
been on has just made me worse in the long run. They've tried pretty
much
everything. Here I'll try to list as much as I can remember: doxy,
IV
primaxin, IV rocephin, IV claforan, zithromax, ceftin, amoxacillin,
mepron,
relafen, percoset, vicodin, zoloft, effexor, nortriptyline, ambien,
adderol,
antivert, zofran... and more I just can't think of right now. half of
those
are meds for reactions I had to meds.. it's all just craziness, there
have
been SO many times I have just wanted to give up, and have. I still
try new
things though. Next on the list is Merrem. If you want to know about
all
the medical stuff.. I am known and feared by the medical world for my
odd
reactions to everything lol. Primaxin worked in the sense that I got
o
violent herx once, but thanks to the lovely insurance companies we
never
really knew what would have happened if I stayed on it much longer.
How do I help myself?
Art. I guess that's how I could sum it up in one word. From
listening to
music, painting, watching movies, writing, drawing, cooking.. you name
it..
anything I can express myself with non-verbally I do. This is also
how I
think we can help more kids with lyme. When I was in the hospital
after the
suicide attempt I was in the psych ward.. for any who don't know, it
is a
locked wing of the hospital where you have a dorm type room you share
and
are put through all different forms of therapy all day. I was
reluctant to
it all at first for obvious reasons.. but I slowly got into it..
group
therapy and art therapy are what worked wonders on me. The group
therapy
was nice because it wasn't just lyme patients. While it's nice to
talk to
people who know the pain.. but it's also important to see how people
cope
with life in general.
Was it that you couldn't find the word you wanted, or did
you get the words in the wrong order, or use wrong words or what?
Is there an all of the above here? lol it was a kind of process, I
would
know exactly what I wanted to say, I'd have the perfect words in my
head..
then when it came time for me to speak I would forget the words, then
the
ones I would use I would jumble and I would put them in the wrong
order.
Now I find myself using the wrong word a lot.. not on purpose but I
think
the word and say something different.. it's an odd feeling.
were there any kinds of tests, any particular subjects or school-
related
tasks,
that were harder for you than others -- especially early on? If so,
did the pattern change over time?
I have had extensive neuropsych testing done by a local (and
brilliant)
neuropsycholgist here. She found I have cognitive impairments.
Mainly with
memory and recall.. stuff like that (if you want me to get more into
detail
just let me know I can find the report and e-mail you with what she
exactly
found) As for what I saw as impairments when it came to neuro stuff
looking
back at my life with lyme? I remember studying as hard as I could
for
things then drawing blanks when it came time to answer anything. I
don't
know if it was this or the lyme.. or a combination of that cause it
but over
the years my motivation has dropped out of sight. I don't have any
anymore.
Lately I've just been too sick to do anything.. but even when I'm
better..
and all through elementary school I just didn't want to do anything (I
think
I've seen it posted on here as "can't do anythingitus" lol) The lack
of
motivation is the only thing that has stayed pretty much constant.
My Lyme brain really gets in my way, but, being as I'm on the verge
of
old, I'm always aware how many years I've had to enjoy having it work
just fine.
This whole paragraph here of yours has struck something in me. I love
to
learn. I always have. I have always loved the start of school.. the
thought of learning so much just amazes me! I always wonder what I'm
going
to be when I get older.. what will be my niche? I wish I could stay
in a
class long enough to find out what I even like to do. It's scaring me
now
that I'm getting older and I don't see an end here. I love
psychology ..
but I wonder how I've learned so much about it, I haven't even made
it
through a semester of classes. If I'm just loving it because I have
been
through so much I wonder where I'd be if I'd never gotten sick. I am
not a
religious person if anything I consider myself Taoist because those
are the
only set of beliefs I've seen where so many match mine (i.e. in order
to be
truly happy you must have felt true sadness, in order to be well you
must be
sick, etc.)
All throughout this I have thought I was the most sane person in the
world..
that I'm just misunderstood. Actually as weird as it may sound I
have
always thought of everyone else to be less sane than me.. odd I know..
I
don't think I can even explain that one. A psychiatrist once told me
he
thinks lyme makes people developmentally younger than they are. This
upset
me to no end. Still does irk me a bit... I guess now in retrospect I
can
see where he was coming from, but in my eyes I think this disease has
made
me grow up so much faster. Between feeling the actual pain, seeing
how the
corporate insurance companies just work to screw us over, watching my
parents be reduced to tears over me,(and still stayed together through
it
all) Having doctors tell me to my face I'm nuts.. with everything I
feel so
much older. I even find myself not able to talk to people my age as
well as
I can to people much older. This disease gives you quite a good BS
detector.
I am interested in everything.. I used to LOVE science.. I loved
taking
things apart, but now not being able to remember how to put them back
together poses a bit of a problem lol. I also loved to read as a
child.. I
still do, but it takes me forever to finish a book now. I don't have
and
concentration anymore, again maybe it's the lyme, maybe it's being a
teenager... but nothing seems to hold my interest anymore.(you'd never
guess
by the length of this response eh? lol) The one thing that I haven't
lost
is my curiosity. I still want to know everything!! (if you have a
teenager
you'll know getting us to admit we don't already know everything is a
feat
in itself lol)
You mention loving drama. Why? What did you love about it?
Simply because I was able to be someone else. No one looked at me as
the
little sick girl. I was the character. Suprisingly I didn't have
much
trouble learning lines... getting into character was easy for me, the
lines
just flowed. I wanted to be an actress for a really long time
actually.
Another Ani Difranco quote snapped me out of that though.. "everyone
is an
actor or an actor's best friend. Tell me when it got so bad that we
all
have to pretend." It just rings so true.
What else do I love to do?
Again, any type of art. I love to watch movies, new and old..
especially
independent movies. I love learning about other people. I love
seeing how
other people think, how they react.. why they are who they are. If I
ever
had a wish it would be to walk a day in someone else's shoes.. to see
life
through their eyes. That's where the independent movies come in...
they
have the least room between the writers/filmmakers head and what the
audience sees.. I love that. I don't know how that relates to lyme.
but who
knows.
I was afraid I wouldn't be
"me" anymore. did you ever feel that way, Sarah? Was there a
moment
when you just *knew* something was wrong with your brain?
Honestly, I don't really see anything "wrong" with my brain. This is
me, I
have been this way for most of what I can remember. I know I have
brain
damage, I know I have things physically wrong with me. I just think
this is
me, it wouldn't be me without all of it. I can't do anything to
change it.
I also don't think I'd like myself any other way. Whenever I tell
people I
have brain damage they let out a gasp or tell me how sorry they are
for me.
I just look in their eyes and wonder if I hadn't told them if they
would
have noticed anything at all. Even if they knew me my whole life. As
for a
moment when I knew.. I don't think so like I said, I've been this way
for as
long as I really remember I don't know how to do anything
differently.
I got the impression from your story that your brain stuff was
almost
too subtle to notice until you got mono. Is that true? Do you know
what tests it was that were positive, how they were sure it was
mono?
I guess I didn't make it too clear here, I'm sorry for that. When
they
tested me for lyme they also tested me for EB(mono). The tests showed
that
I had already had mono(around December of 96 we think) and that my
lyme
titers were positive. We didn't know I had brain damage until I had
my
first Brain spect scan and saw Dr. Fallon for that study. I probably
wouldn't know I have brain damage without people telling me, for the
sheer
fact (as I said above) that I don't really remember life without the
brain
damage. Though sadly the tests do show the legions on my brain and
the
constricted blood flow to my brain are getting worse. One thing I
found
interesting when I saw a cardiologist for the first time today(this is
a lil
off-topic here, sorry) was that he said my brain damage could be
causing me
to have low blood pressure at certain times of the day(something about
it
effecting the part of my brain that effects the regulation of blood
pressure) and that that is what could be causing my reversed sleep
patterns.. will be interesting to find out if this is true. (having a
tilt
table test next month)
any other co-infections?
Actually at different points in time I have tested for both babesia
and
erlichia(sp?) I took my 3 week round of mepron/zithro and it seemed
to make
the positive test results go away but sadly not the symptoms. Sadly
the
zithro caused SEVERE GI problems(as everything seems to with me, but
this
time it landed me in the hospital) Other than all known strains of
lyme
this seems to be it so far. We're not sure, nor have we ever looked
into,
if I ever really had mono.. or if lyme makes it positive.. who
knows?! lol
He's also said (in an LDF talk, I think) that LOTS of kids with Lyme
encephalopathy (was it half?) admit to suicidal thoughts, with some
horrifying percentage actually giving it a try.
I never knew he said all of this! It's odd, yet weirdly reassuring,
that I
was right about the impulsivity. I had never admitted to suicidal
thoughts.. never even to myself.. I was always the biggest anti-
suicide
person you could find. They are right for me about saying the one's
who
talk about it are USUALLY not the ones to do it. No one expected this
from
me, not even myself.
again, if you made it to the end of this, congrats! lol.. and Jean,
please,
please feel free to ask anything you'd like here or in private e-
mail.. if
you want anything more detailed just ask, my mom is meticulous about
keeping
all my records so I can look up anything you might need!
~Sarah
califor...@cruzio.com
first husband-
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.diseases.lyme/browse_thread/thread/c3a4f1766a3aacd2/a9e3f632903b71b6#a9e3f632903b71b6
the 3rd Man
> This is the same website that has the rogue gallery of LLMDs and I had
> never seen that website before. I am very upset-
So?
You're not making a great deal of sense, here.
Why should anyone be expected to know who you are and not get you
confused with this other Sarah? Are you THAT famous? What are you
babbling about?
("ANYONE who knows me would know this is not me for several
reasons")-
Good idea to talk to your lawyer relations.
Probably might have occurred to you to do that before going hysterical
here with what is essentially a private, personal matter.
While you're at it, I would suggest that you talk to them about some
of your posts recently that accuse people of "murder" and name names.
You might ask them if this is a good idea...to be doing something like
that.
the 3rd Man
>
"But this page is a MALICIOUS attempt to defame me and I have to say,
I
am shaking and upset".
You just laid out a very good case as to how a person could have been
legitimately confused as to which "Sarah" was being discussed, or
posting...(it confused me)...
...and then go on to infer that it was a deliberate attempt to
"defame" you.
Yeesh.
cowabu...@yahoo.com
1. I don't see the page that sarah says is defaming her? Apparently
she admits writing the thing about getting animal abx (great idea lol)
but I don't see how any of this is linked to the thing she says it is
about a mental health history or whatever at least not from what I see
on the ld50 site?
So I'm confused.
2. Since that doesn't seem to be on the LD50 site and Sarah has now
reposted it, isn't it her that is doing damage to herself? Posted it
here and on Lymenet. I'm not a lawyer but it seems to me that it is
Sarah making the connection and publishing it?
3. By republishing it isn't she increasing any damages she might have?
4. as I understand it from quick internet research don't you need
damages to have a libel or slander suit? What are her damages? That
her feelings are hurt? The quick research I did says that you need
actual damages before you can collect for emotional distress or
anything else like punitive damages?
Correct me if I'm wrong anyone who knows the law?
cowabu...@yahoo.com
Oh yeah if libel or slander or whatever it is bothers her so much then
how is it that she refuses to condemn kathleen who does it to about a
thousand good people a day? Sounds like she's just a big hypocrite and
crybaby to me.
cowabu...@yahoo.com
Sarah I wonder how Jessica Gauvin or Richard Blumenthal or Eugene
Shapiro or Henry Feder or Allen Steere or any of the other ten
thousand people who kathleen defames daily feel?
I guess it is too much bother to condemn anyone for doing something
like that though.
So I can't condemn whoever it is you think did whatever you think they
did to you.
PS: Starting to sound like kathleen when you say you think it might be
the IDSA people after you. Ask kathleen, it is probably the jews
anyway lol who today she blamed for the holocaust incredibly enough in
a post titled:
Oh. Well, then, some NAZI hunters better go after the Trotsky's in
America- the NeoCons, since the Jewish Bolsheviks are responsible for
the Holocaust.
But don't bother to condemn her. Keep on defending her and saying what
a wonderful mom she is and how brilliant.
PPS: Still waiting for someone to post a single brilliant insight by
kathleen.
the 3rd Man
> 4. as I understand it from quick internet research don't you need
> damages to have a libel or slander suit? What are her damages? That
> her feelings are hurt? The quick research I did says that you need
> actual damages before you can collect for emotional distress or
> anything else like punitive damages?
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong anyone who knows the law?
Well, it has been alleged that I once attended law school.
But...the same people who say this...my classmates...also say that I
was either drunk, or at Wrigley Field (or both, drinking help ease the
pain of watching what happens at Wrigley Field) while actual classes
were being held.
I did pass the bar, however...which was the first bar I ever "passed"
since coming to Chicago.
So, yes, to answer the question, my understanding would be that
demonstrable damages are a required element of a defamation action.
I dunno about 'knowing the law", though...State of Illinois says I do,
though...damned nice of them, too...
cowabu...@yahoo.com
Oh I didn't realize you were an alleged attorney. Nice.
As for being drunk I guess you were studying for the bar? ;-)
So I am still confused. The link sarah provides to the lde50 blog
doesn't seem to mention her by name or link to the post about mental
health history and all the stuff disputes. If I read it I would never
have made the connection, I have no idea who those quotes are from.
At least not until sarah has now made the connection and published it
here and on lymenet america and lymenet europe.
So isn't she doing this to herself?
Or could someone show me what she is talking about?
Now they're saying on lymenet america that it must be the DOD or CIA
or CDC or the ominous omnipresent uncle sam.
And they're sure law enforcement will track this down too.
Talk about exagerrated senses of self importance. and correct me if
I'm wrong, but isn't slander or libel a civil thing not a criminal
thing?
And if it was the government doing it lol why would the government
track themselves down?
I just can't stand the logic.
Oh yeah nice to see kathleen defending sarah here. I guess kathleen is
very sensitive to issues of slander and libel (which is which by the
way? or I guess you can just fudge it if you don't know and call it
defamation). Kathleen obviously realizes what a terrible thing it is
to defame someone. I guess since sarah won't condemn kathleen, sarah
deserves to be defended by kathleen.
What a nice pair.
Although since sarah apparently dissembles which to me is lying and
kathleen says liars are doomed to hell, I'm thinking that kathleen has
condemned sarah to hell.
It is all so confusing.
the 3rd Man
>
> So I am still confused. The link sarah provides to the lde50 blog
> doesn't seem to mention her by name or link to the post about mental
> health history and all the stuff disputes. If I read it I would never
> have made the connection, I have no idea who those quotes are from.
>
> At least not until sarah has now made the connection and published it
> here and on lymenet america and lymenet europe.
>
> So isn't she doing this to herself?
You would think so, yes.
Alerting others to the alleged defamatory content would
be...uhhh..."problematic", to say the least, in court. Yeah, if ithe
content of the remarks are so hurtful...then why would the alleged
victim of the defamation repeat these remarks for everyone to see? We
call this "duh", legally-speaking.
>
> Now they're saying on lymenet america that it must be the DOD or CIA
> or CDC or the ominous omnipresent uncle sam.
You know...I am getting tired of parsing my words in regard to some of
these people...trying to come up with something less than what I
actually mean...something marginally politic and polite...but they are
just absolute clueless goofs, a lot of them...maybe goofs who THINK
they are doing "good"...but goofs, nonetheless.
>
> And they're sure law enforcement will track this down too.
Good luck to them. Sounds like the basis for a good TV show...maybe
that show "Law and Order", I dunno, myself...never watch shows about
lawyers...especially ones starring former Watergate minority counsels.
(Have seen some episodes of "Boston Legal", though. Kinda like that
one. I identify with Denny Crane. And Candace Bergen is still looking
good).
>
> Talk about exagerrated senses of self importance. and correct me if
> I'm wrong, but isn't slander or libel a civil thing not a criminal
> thing?
Yep.
>
> And if it was the government doing it lol why would the government
> track themselves down?
Economic stimulus, I guess. Maybe there are lots of out-of-work "new
world order" governmental alpahabet agency-type spooks that now need
discretionary income. Dunno.
califor...@cruzio.com
I never attempted suicide and got put in a psyche ward and had my
parents
threaten anything about a car. My father, John Leonard, PhD, was dead
by the time I had a drivers license. This is referncing the other
Sarahs
life and LINKS to her POST with the words "suicide attempt"
QUOTE
cowabu...@yahoo.com
> This part here NEBBISH- the following is NOT ME but he says it is me.
No need to try to be insulting.
For someone with such a thin skin you sure are insensitive to others.
Absolutely none of this helps me find where in the hell this appears
on the webpage you referenced.
Could you please put a link to it?
The link you provided takes me only to the page where it talks about
Lymies suriving incredible microbial assaults.
> I never attempted suicide and got put in a psyche ward and had my
> parents
> threaten anything about a car.
I think it is psych ward but kathleen would probably know better.
Maybe is is psyche ward with an e in england?
>�My father, John Leonard, PhD, was dead
> by the time I had a drivers license. �This is referncing the other
> Sarahs
> life and LINKS to her POST with the words "suicide attempt"
I followed that much that you say this is about some other sarah. I
just don't see where it is on the cited web page. Maybe it is in a
sublink, could you provide a more specific link or reference to the
page?
Since he has titles on the side, and there are blog entries from
different days and months, please tell us where the heck it is. I sure
couldn;t find it.
>
> QUOTE
>
> �From her
> own tedious online confessions one learns that she attempted suicide
> several years ago after her parents threatened to take away her car
> and access to the Internet. ("When I was in the hospital after the
> suicide attempt I was in the psych ward. [F]or any who don't know, it
> is a locked wing of the hospital...." Thanks. We might have guessed
> as
> much.) Despite--as she claims--watching her parents reduced to tears
> over her and having doctors tell her to her face that she was nuts,
> she seems to have abandoned a credible diagnosis of bipolar disorder
> in favor of a self-diagnosis of a permanent tick-borne infection, and
> abandoned useful neuropsychiatric medications for all the antibiotics
> she can get her hands on. Probably that includes goat antibiotics.
I did read your confession about your secret love affair with a goat
and how you are trying to make your goat into a housegoat but that was
on lymenet europe and written by you.
By the way, do you wear the housegoat in the rain?
(that was a joke) ;-)
Thanks in advance for your more specific direction.
sorry to hear you're so upset about all of this.
Maybe now you know how the thousands of people who kathleen does this
to all the time feel? Or maybe not.
califor...@cruzio.com
cowabu...@yahoo.com
> He erased it.
No it wasn't there as soon as you posted the link this morning.
But now it is all over the web thanks to you.
the 3rd Man
>> As for being drunk I guess you were studying for the bar? ;-)
A self-effacing joke, I assure you. just kidding around. (Notice that
I said it was my classmates who said this).
I actually worked very hard while I was in school...but not at school.
I law-clerked quite a bit. Long time ago, now.
the 3rd Man
> He erased it.
SO?
WHO CARES?
Someone got you confused with someone else.
BIG DEAL.
WHAT is the problem?
the 3rd Man
Isn't that what you wanted?
If someone makes a mistake, isn't that what they are supposed to do?
Remove it?
Ohhh...the drama...the pathos...
cowabu...@yahoo.com
Well the funny thing is that now she has posted it all over the
internet.
I've personally seen it four different places and I doubt that is all
there are, I'm not a denizen of every Lyme board in the netiverse like
some of these people are.
But I think she's enjoying the attention, loves playing the martyr,
luxuriates in the positive feedback (Oh don't worry we all know it was
a troll and we love you *)*)*) etcetera) and now is basking in the
idea that it was McSweegan specifically targeting her because she's so
freaking important that her credibiity needs to be attacked.
But as you point out in your note to sarah her credibility is
suffering for her, well let's be generous (sarah's had such an
emotionally rough day) "dissembling" about kathleen's anti semitism
and neo nazi bent and blumenthal (the god forbid JEW) and his folks
(maybe even more JEWS god forbid?) might come across this stuff or
Spitzer (again a god forbid JEW).
Instead she accepts kathleens support (although I thought she doesn't
read kathleen?) and agrees with kathleen that "they" are "murderers"
instead of understanding how someone like Jessica Gauvin or the many
others that kathleen defames specifically (rather than the general
categories of "jews" and "zionists") every day repeatedly and
incessantly.
Truly unbelievable lack of empathy and understanding.
And these folks wonder why they never get anywhere? Despite kathleen's
self proclaimed "educational" website? LOL
As you said the other day Lymeland is hard to understand. Sort of
through the looking glass down the rabbit hole alternate universe.
Staggering!
cowabu...@yahoo.com
> On Jan 26, 11:58�am, cowabungab...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > So I am still confused. The link sarah provides to the lde50 blog
> > doesn't seem to mention her by name or link to the post about mental
> > health history and all the stuff disputes. If I read it I would never
> > have made the connection, I have no idea who those quotes are from.
>
> > At least not until sarah has now made the connection and published it
> > here and on lymenet america and lymenet europe.
>
> > So isn't she doing this to herself?
>
> You would think so, yes.
>
> Alerting others to the alleged defamatory content would
> be...uhhh..."problematic", to say the least, in court. Yeah, if ithe
> content of the remarks are so hurtful...then why would the alleged
> victim of the defamation repeat these remarks for everyone to see? We
> call this "duh", legally-speaking.
I noticed that as soon as it started to sink to the bottom of the page
on lymenet america that she bumped it back up. Basking in the
attention and martyrdom now. Probably makes her feel really important.
As she said since she is sure it is mcsweegan picking on her because
she needs to be discredited because after all she's so damned
important what with all the pathbreaking research papers she's
published and all.
>
> > Now they're saying on lymenet america that it must be the DOD or CIA
> > or CDC or the ominous omnipresent uncle sam.
>
> You know...I am getting tired of parsing my words in regard to some of
> these people...trying to come up with something less than what I
> actually mean...something marginally politic and polite...but they are
> just absolute clueless goofs, a lot of them...maybe goofs who THINK
> they are doing "good"...but goofs, nonetheless.
Ask yourself this. Do those folks parse their words when it comes to
others?
So why should you?
> > And they're sure law enforcement will track this down too.
>
> Good luck to them. Sounds like the basis for a good TV show...maybe
> that show "Law and Order",
I like law and order. The original not the many new versions svu and
the others whatever they're called.
> I dunno, myself...never watch shows about
> lawyers...especially ones starring former Watergate minority counsels.
Fred thompson? He's not the scariest of the republicans running. Or I
guess he isn't running anymore. What about the guy who wants to amend
the consitution to make it more like the bible? Or the one who keeps
telling us we're going to be attacked unless he's in charge even
though he was in charge of nyc when it was attacked and had ignored
warnings and calls to upgrade the emergency system which led to the
death of many first responders and put the emergency response center
right there?
Or the guy with the perfect hair who will say anything to get elected
and who had an aide posing as a state police person and secret
service, part of then hitler youth for mitt?
> (Have seen some episodes of "Boston Legal", though. Kinda like that
> one. I identify with Denny Crane. And Candace Bergen is still looking
> good).
>
Love Boston Legal. Perfect role for Shatner.
Not too attracted to candace bergen but I like the new girl who allen
shore is obsessed with (saffron burrows) specially in the elevator.
>
>
> > Talk about exagerrated senses of self importance. and correct me if
> > I'm wrong, but isn't slander or libel a civil thing not a criminal
> > thing?
>
> Yep.
>
>
>
> > And if it was the government doing it lol why would the government
> > track themselves down?
>
> Economicstimulus, I guess. Maybe there are lots of out-of-work "new
> world order" governmental alpahabet agency-type spooks that now need
> discretionary income. Dunno.
LMAO Pretty funny third man