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 More options Nov 9 2004, 8:59 pm
Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry
From: jdrew63...@aol.com (Jan)
Date: 10 Nov 2004 01:59:32 GMT
Local: Tues, Nov 9 2004 8:59 pm
Subject: Re: When Is Bill Combs Going To Answer My Questions???
Now for the points and questions you didn't address.

Please do so.

You wrote:
>Evidently these other eleven charges did not mention mercury. They
>> >must have been about other matters of malpractice or violations of
>> >laws that did not relate to mercury.

I replied:

Uh huh, like I said, the same ole same ole. Was he also charged with using the
wrong color of toliet paper??

It is your choice of the word malpractice, is it not?

Plus the words, violations of the law??

>One charge is sufficient to remove a license to practice dentistry.
>> >Eleven charges, unrelated to mercury, would tend to show an
>> >overwhelming pattern of substandard practice.

What overwheming pattern of substandard practice?

Substandard  and overwhelming are your cloice of words,  are they not?

Which is overwhelming and which is substandard??

>If indeed this author is correct, and eleven patients were treated
>> >below standards with no relation to the mercury question, then this
>> >dentist should not be allowed to practice on the public -- regardless
>> >of any position he happened to take on dental amalgams.
> *Below Standards* Standards set by whom?????
>In most states, the standards are set by the state legislature.

And they get their standards from whom?

>>His pattern of malpractice in non-mercury cases
>>  Say what?!?!

> Using no mercury is malpractice??????
>I never said that.

>The reference I made was to the eleven NON-mercury cases in which he
>was charged with malpractice/substandard practice by the board.

Well, no, those are your words.

>Since
>these cases did not involve mercury, I refer to them as the
>non-mercury cases.
> Oh??? Like what?
>Like the three cases you list below.

He didn't wash his hands.

>>  Not seeing decay.

> Yelled at a patient.

That's malpracitice/substandard???

>Who made these charges???

>Didn't you know that when you posted the reference?

Yes, I knew, I am asking you if you knew? I should have posted, complaints.

>Generally, charges
>are made by a branch of the state government. In most states this is
>the government's dental board.

Uh huh, *organized dentistry*

> The 14 patients who files were used were friends of Dr Jacobson an made it
>> clear to the board, in writing, they wanted nothing to do with this so
 called
>> *investion* which started immediately after he placed an ad which used the
>> words *mercury free*.

Concoeted charges, such as:

> He didn't wash his hands.

>> Not seeing decay.

>> Yelled at a patient.
>Surely you don't mean to imply that these charges should be taken
>lightly.

LOL!!!

My word this is certainly *fraud* and *incompetent* conduct.

> (I don't know what an *investion* is.)

Righto, ask someone to help you figure it out.

>With regard to the charge of "Yelled at a patient," this seems
>unlikely to result in a loss of license.

Yes.

Along with , not washed his hands, and not seeing decay.

Those don't sound one bit made up/concocted. do they?

>But if his patients all
>rallied to his defense, then HOW did the state learn that he had
>yelled at a patient?

It was made up!

Did any of his patients say that??

>Perhaps at least one of his patients reported this to the board. I doubt that

 the state had any other way of
>learning that he "Yelled at a patient" unless that patient complained to the

board.

Give me a break. A patient is going to a board because a dentist yelled at
them.

You need to go back and read what the evidence showed about who made the
complaints.

Then read how his patients knew this was a chop job and wantedd nothing to do
with it.

>With regard to the charge of "Not seeing decay," this is more serious.
>Many patients go to a dentist specifically to find out if they have
>any tooth decay. If decay is present and the dentist misses it,
>serious complications can potentially occur to the patient. If a
>dentist continually misses an obvious diagnosis, state action is warranted.

In fact he did see it, he noted it in the file and made several attempts to get
the patient to come back and get it fixed, the patient refused.

>By far, the most serious charge is that of "He didn't wash his hands."
>In this age of deadly communicable diseases, the prevention of
>infection must be foremost in the minds of all members of the health
>care professions. It has been known since the 1880s that the simple
>act of washing one's hands has a dramatic effect in lowering the rate
>of disease transmission in the healthcare setting.

Who saw him not wash his hand??? Do your patients follow you in the bathroom??

I suggest to you, if everyone who didn't wash their hands, lost their licenses,
we would have very few licensced people in any field.

Doctors can cut off the wrong leg and still keep their license.

<snip>

Cutting to the chase, the fact he used the words mercuy free is EXACTLY why he
was harassed and the investigaters worked mighty hard to come up with this
trumpted up charges. It took them over twelve years.

The board membesr made it clear tey were upset with his refusal of the use of
mercury.

>Are there any cases on record that would better illustrate unfair
>> >prosecution?

>> WOW!!!!!
>The ENTIRE case was nothing, but a farce from those who are EVIL.
>Even if we dismiss the amalgam-related charges as "nothing," what
>about the other eleven charges?

I didn't see eleven, did you?

>It is unreasonable to say "The ENTIRE case was nothing" without
>examining the charges that did not even involve amalgam.

No, it is totally unreasonable that the broad took twelve years to get these
charges made up!!!

>Was it true
>that he didn't diagnose dental caries? Was it true that he didn't even
>wash his hands?

B I N G O!!!!

Was it true sixty of his patients jammed the hearing room??

WHAT does that tell you?

Did you read all the steps taken to get these charges made. UNFAIR and
DISHONEST tactics.??

*Although the Humphrey's office and the board sought to peddle the notion that
its investigation of Gary was not centered on his refusal to use amalgam, the
Star Trubune was not fooled. The MN. broard of dentistry had accused the
dentist of fraud and and misconduct for allegedly pushing an expensive that
have never been proven to work, removing peoples' fillings call amalgams to
free them of mercury poisoning*

I all comes back to the gag order.

> YOU learn the LIES well from dental school.
>Is this meant as an ad hominem attack?

No, it is the TRUTH.

>What "lies" are in my posting??
>I can't find any.

WOW!!!!

Dentists have LIED for so long, they know longer know what is a LIE..

Your choice of words and DECEIVING are LIES.

There was NO fraud!!!

There was NO imcompetence!!!!!

There was NO Malpractice!!

There was NO substandards.

> PATHETIC!!
>> Jan
>No need to get insulting. I did not insult you.

There is a great need to get real and stop trying to deceive.

>My point remains -- are there any other cases that would better
>illustrate the author's claim of unfair prosecution? This particular
>case involved many charges, and only half of them seemed to involve
>amalgam. Instead of defending a doctor who apparently was also charged
>with failure to diagnose decay, and failure to practice infection
>control for his patients, wouldn't it be more effective for an author
>to put forward a case that involved ONLY amalgam-related issues?

>- dentaldoc

Your point is a LIE.

Jan


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