Denture Mini Implant
voicelit
Mini Implant Retained Over-Dentures. Expense , an issue. Therefore: not
just implants or " non mini " sized implants for retention. Been told I
have great bone ( dense ) in jaw. Been in touch with : Imtec ( MDI ),
IntraLock ( MDL ) with no real solution so far. Meaning, they haven't
located a local enough Doc for me yet.
I'm in the Yorktown / Mohegan Lake , Ny area: 10547 , Westchester
County .
Just stunning how tough it is to locate a local ( or even reasonable
travel ) dentist that makes clear that this procedure is a possibility
for them. One has to just go " fish " with consult / x-ray fees piling
up.
My wife and I have just bought our first house. Would love to find the
procedure ( extraction - maybe using insurance for that - , mini
implants, dentures ) for around $3,000.00. Wonder if that's just
impossible; or if Canada, dental schools , or some other innovative
idea is needed. Or just " give it up " and go get the teeth pulled and
get the old George Washingtons?
Thanks for any help,
Marty ( voicelit )
Amatus Cremona
> My wife and I have just bought our first house. Would love to find the
> procedure ( extraction - maybe using insurance for that - , mini
> implants, dentures ) for around $3,000.00. Wonder if that's just
> impossible
>
Probably "that's just impossible" at that price.
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Joel344
Around here two mini-implants go for $1,000 (for two) and you can use
your old denture if it still fits.
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more desirable than 2...
Dr. G.
> Around here two mini-implants go for $1,000 (for two) and you can use
> your old denture if it still fits.
Can someone point me to some published research on these mini-implants?
Dr. G.
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Here?
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1: Morea C, Dominguez GC, Wuo Ado V, Tortamano A. Related Articles,
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Surgical guide for optimal positioning of mini-implants.
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20: Nkenke E, Lehner B, Weinzierl K, Thams U, Neugebauer J, Steveling
H, Radespiel-Troger M, Neukam FW. Related Articles, Links
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in the mandible of mini pigs.
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voicelit
Can't remember how many are recomennded for retaining a denture. 2 for
mandible, 4 for maxilla ? Or 4 bottom and 6 on top. Whatever : that
could be 2 grand for the bottom, 4 grand for the top : $ 6,000 ; plus
whatever : say $ 500. each for dentures ( have no idea how good or bad
dentures at that price are ) : $ 7,000 ; extractions etc... Between
$7,000.00 and $10, 000 all together ?
Gee, had an offer from Koos up in Stratford , Ct. to do it with real
implants for $17,000.
Lot of dentists are pushing the envelope with minis if you check the
Dentaltown forum under Mini.
Marty ( voicelit )
Joel344
Hiya Marty (the other Marty!)
I've seen this implant stuff advertised recently (well within the past
five years ~ my how time flies!) as $1,000 for two mini-implants set
into your old denture ~ it may have been from a shop called,
"AFFORDABLE DENTURES." ..... One guy called my regular dental shop
several days ago and asked for a price for implants but then retorted
that he already had a fee in his pocket of $650 per implant.
When I asked about was that mini-implant or maxi-implant he had no idea
what I was talking about but I already knew. So I explained a bit and
recommended that he come in for a free consultation to get a better
informed diagnosis. Of course I snagged his e-mail (this was a phone
call, remember) and I sent him information and the image that is
recreated below.
Jeez, its exactly like a phone system. There are so many ways to
approach the problem, each with different features and each with
different costs.
This forum, sci.med.dentistry/DentalCom.Net/MedKB/host of others is a
public way of INFORMING patients and ourselves so that we are all on
the same page. What we got going on is a syndication of
patients/doctors who offer opinions about dental problems. Basically I
am still learning this stuff myself although I should know better as my
first continuing education dental implant course was in 1968. So
dentists and patients, tell us what is your opinion of this. Are
mini-implants as effective in the lower edentulous (toothless) arch?
ANSWERS to other questions.
1. I believe four are recommended, however this depends on vertical
height of bone. Often the molar region is way worn down (atrophied).
2. Upper denture will stay in just great WITHOUT implants, in fact
often times better. Suction is the key. I have had a number of patients
call me from home to ask how to get those suckers out. The answer is to
blow air up behind the denture and break the seal.
(This assumes decent maxillary bone structure and a lack of movable
mucosa!)
3. If you are spending big bucks get the job done right and have a
porcelain/metal non-removable roundhouse CEMENTED onto the abutments.
4. If you spend the dough you are entitled to at least this.
5. In my shop there are two periodontists doing the surgical
implantation. We are offering reasonable fees along with top-notch
care!
6. Who are AFFORDABLE DENTURES? Well its a chain. There are two of them
in our area however there were three. The one that folded was the same
guy advertising the $1,000 for two implants and was located around 67th
and Market Streets in the Upper Darby region. Its a couple of buildings
south of the old Horn and Hardart building that may be a McDonald's
today.
Another is in New Jersey while the third is at Roosevelt Mall. I have
no idea how they operate, however, I am always suspicious of people who
advertise on TV about their one-day service. This is a common misnomer.
If you need dentures tomorrow, you may or may not get the best job. I
know .... I have done too many one-day wonders to count!
So who is the ORIGINAL Marty? Well check her profile piccie at this
thread or naother thread ... you will not be disappointed. She is a
dental hygienist from the Paoli area ........ and a very popular dental
hygienist from what I am told.
Joely
STANDARD DISCLAIMER APPLIES: This is not diagnosis or treatment
suggestion. That cannot be done without an in-person consultation and
examination, in Pennsylvania and in other jurisdictions.
VOICElit (MARTY)
Marty ( voicelit )
letsconnect
voicelit wrote:
> Can't remember how many are recomennded for retaining a denture. 2 for
> mandible, 4 for maxilla ? Or 4 bottom and 6 on top.
As far as I can see: for minis, 4-6 on bottom (or 2-3 root form
implants). For maxilla, minis are not really recommended (but as Joel
pointed out, people tend to have less problems adapting to full
uppers). If you really want an upper implant-retained denture, this
would work out quite expensive. You can check out this group as well
(for user opinions):
http://groups.msn.com/denturesanewsmile/general.msnw
Joel344
Excellent resource, Let's (Letsconnect). Thanks. I do not believe I have
seen the MSN site before. Its looks like interesting general discussion,
but there is no way to search within the discussions. Say I am looking
for "mini-implants." Do I have to open each thread and read it? I have
become so lazy (and so efficient) with all this newfanged internet
stuff!
Now where are my 3x5 index cards anyway?
Joely
letsconnect
Joel344 wrote:
> Its looks like interesting general discussion,
> but there is no way to search within the discussions. Say I am looking
> for "mini-implants." Do I have to open each thread and read it?
msn groups are a Microsoft thingy... do you REALLY expect a SEARCH
FUNCTION??? :-P
You can ask a question though and wait for replies... For technical
aspects of implant-retained dentures, DT's implantology forum is more
informative, but it's still interesting to read about first-hand (or
rather, -mouth) experiences (actually, the search function on DT is
pretty useless as well - boolean operators don't seem to work?)
voicelit
guess be cause they're " minis " ? Wouldn't 2 mini implants at least
improve the lower denture's stability ?
Would some " mini implants " in the maxilla allow for a palateless
denture ? Less speech problems ?
Still interesting how difficult the search for a dentist that has
any experience with these things. Imtec allows for you to select a city
, but then you're only seeing who attended one Imtec course. What does
that really tell you.
You do see alot of " UK " ( Brit ) stuff on this.
Yea, I'd have to come up with some really innovative / complex set
of moves to get this done in our budget : have the insurance pay for
the basement-level extractions, cheapo dentures... then try and get
someone to work with me about the " minis ".
Then there's schools ; haven't been able to get myself into a "
study " of some kind. So far. Travel to Costa Rico or someplace . Is it
" Hungry " in Europe that's the hot spot for this ?
Will check on " original " marty soon. " Upper Darby " wow " Horn &
Hardhart's "... I'll bet I coulda got this done cheap and well at "
Gimbel's ".
Marty ( voicelit )
Joel344
You have posed excellent questions. A prime consideration about how this
needs to be designed has to do with the severity of the bite, the force
of the bite, the lateral excursions, and the dentist's judgement
(guess-timate) of same!
For many people, there is not a huge amount of lateral, side-to-side
displacement so two implants may do the trick to prevent the backwards
slippage.
On the upper, if you eliminate the palate, you eliminate the "suction."
This means that two implants will never do the job. Why not? Because the
denture will rotate around the fulcrum, that is the line bisecting the
two implants.
STEP ONE is always to be sure that the dentist has plenty of denture
experience. If the dentures themselves prove to be a problem, try two
lower mini-implants for stabilization.
If a better approach is desired, prepare to pay more, much more.
Joel
letsconnect
becoming loose where only 2 minis are involved. Stability is the second
issue.
I've often wondered about Hungry myself...
If there are any dental schools near you, you should check into this.
Joel would know more though (PA, right?)
voicelit
Westchester County. 10547
Marty
Joel344
This is true. Being Hungry makes people chew more vigorously. I suggest
smaller meals more often so you do not get TOO HUNGRY and do not CHEW
YOUR FOOD to the point of loosening your implants.
Joel
letsconnect
cost is the main concern, dental schools would be worth investigating,
though it might take a bit of time for the work to be completed. 4
minis (lower) might be your best bet, unless you can afford two or
three "standard" lower implants. One advantage of the minis is that
usually, the overdenture can be attached immediately. Also, they can
work where ordinary implants can't (due to lack of decent bone).
Otherwise, most implant specialists would recommend 'standard'
implants. But the minis might work just fine.
voicelit
tomorrow. Free consult, free x-rays.
Don't have much hope that he can actually do it for around $3,000.00,
but might point me in some direction.
I like the immediate aspect of the minis.
Seems I'd have to luck in to some strange situation: someone needs to
" experiment " in some way, needs to "try out " some new equipment.
Marty ( voicelit )
Joel344
If its the mini-implants I think you will be in luck .... Please let us
know!
Dr. G.
Thanks for the references.
I think some of them are a bit questionable, but in the long run I can
find no reason to believe the minis won't work well given the proper
indication.
Dr. G.
prosthodontist
> 1: Morea C, Dominguez GC, Wuo Ado V, Tortamano A. Related Articles,
> Links
> Surgical guide for optimal positioning of mini-implants.
> J Clin Orthod. 2005 May;39(5):317-21. No abstract available.
> PMID: 15961891 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
>
> [...]
>
> 20: Nkenke E, Lehner B, Weinzierl K, Thams U, Neugebauer J, Steveling
> H, Radespiel-Troger M, Neukam FW. Related Articles, Links
> Bone contact, growth, and density around immediately loaded implants
> in the mandible of mini pigs.
> Clin Oral Implants Res. 2003 Jun;14(3):312-21.
> PMID: 12755781 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
> Items 1 - 20 of 44
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> I like the immediate aspect of the minis.
While I can see the convenience of immediate treatment, I wonder about
the practicality.
I have no experience with minis, but I do have extensive experience with
some other types of implants.
Some of the research to which Dr. Joel referred me, seemed to suggest
that there was a (bit) less success with minis placed and loaded
immediately compared to those which were allowed to heal and were then
"put to work". This same thing has been seen with other types of
implants.
I think this is something you should talk to your dentist about before
you decide to do anything. Could be nothing the worry about. Then
again...?
Dr. G.
prosthodontist
> Seems I'd have to luck in to some strange situation: someone needs to
> " experiment " in some way, needs to "try out " some new equipment.
>
> Marty ( voicelit )
Dr.Braces
for sectional movement for the last few years. We have found they can
speed up treatment, especially for those patietns who are not compliant
with headgear or other patient controlled factors.
Dr. Braces
Joel344
We are on the same page here Dr. G. In fact, I am exploring and thinking
this issue through right now, for very practical reasons.
All things being equal, what we prefer are root-form implants, together
with fixed, non-removable porcelain fired onto a metal substructure.
Unfortunately, this is expensive care. And we prefer that implant
placement be done by one of our specialists who has completed two or
three years of full-time advanced dental study through an accredited
university program.
This is what we are doing over at our shop. We are coordinating the
treatment for maximum patient benefit.
That said, there are people with slipping lower dentures who still need
care. Perhaps they live on disability payments, or just have not put
together a decent career. Well, that MAY be justification for a
FALLBACK position.
We are exploring the literature and we agree that what I posted is not
representative, fair, balanced, or even anything but the most
superficial introduction into the discussion. Perhaps this discussion
is of interest to this group.
voicelit
Yorktown Heights, Ny today. Kinda offputting . X-rays. The dental
assistant hands me a bunch of loose leaf binder type books full of
amateurish graphics and polaroids of bad teeth corrected by the
dentist. Another dingy book of letters of apreciation from worshipful
patients. Strange place above a busy intersection , huge cosmetic
dentistry photo in window - all yellowed with age. Place was clean, but
a strange of purple I'd associate with some depressing fast food joint.
Doctor was very conversant with implants and minis. I asked if he
used Imtec, he said he used a better product, I asked " MDL, Intra Lock
?" he says: " so, you have done some research" .
Whatever. He's probably right that the basic cost would be about 6
grand each - upper and lower. What with extractions, healing, temporary
denture, 4 minis for the lower - I think he came to this price without
any minis on the upper, just suction - etc...
I'm still gonna search around for some unique set of situations that
brings all this in for less money before just having them all yanked
out and whatever dimestore dentures my MetLife insurance will pay for.
Stay tuned.
Hey Joel, know much about the Philly scene? I was quite the local "
art star " down there during the '70s.
Marty ( voicelit )
Joel344
It still seems like a lot of money ........
Keep a-shoppin' .......
Okay, art scene ....... I am/was a South Street dude ,,, Lickety Split,
Cafe Yas, Black Banana, erstwhile friend of Isaiah Zagar ......
voicelit
to live down on 6th and Kater, worked with a " Jeff Baumann ".
Is Isaiah still around ? Think I heard he was ill. Julia ?
Couple of years ago, I was living at 4th and Lombard. Miss " Mommy's,
The Book Trader ".
Marty ( voicelit )
Joel344
Isaiah and Julia are doing fine. They live up around 9th and South. The
most famous project right now is Magic Garden. You may know Bob
Natalini who was close with Isaiah at the time. I live at 7th and Pine
which is right around the corner.
Joel
Here is Judy Wicks on Magic Garden:
Save the Magic Garden:
Mosaic Tour
with Isaiah Zagar
Saturday, September 10, 9am
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[image: http://www.whitedog.com/isaiah.gif]
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Save the Magic Garden:
Mosaic Tour
with Isaiah Zagar
Saturday, September 10, 9am
[image: http://www.whitedog.com/isaiah.gif]
For more than 30 years, mosaic artist Isaiah Zagar has been using
broken mirrors, bicycle wheels, bottles, tiles and ceramic objects to
embellish Philadelphia including the Painted Bride Art Center, and a
number of interior spaces. After meeting at the Cafe for coffee &
muffins, we will travel to the landmark Magic Garden, Zagar’s
sculptural environment on South St., to tour it and a number of his
works inside and out by foot. He considers the Magic Garden to be the
keystone of his extensive outdoor art museum but it is threatened with
destruction. When we return to the Cafe for lunch, Zagar will discuss
his work and his vision for preserving it.
$40 includes muffins & coffee, transportation, tour, lunch, tax & tip
Space Limited. Reservations required. (215) 386-9224.
(For mosaic workshop info or to help save the Magic Garden,
visit isaiahzagar.com or philadelphiasmagicgardens.org, or call
215-327-9911.)
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3420 Sansom Street, Philadelphia, PA 19104
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voicelit
a kick out of it.
You ARE a " dentist " ? Practicing ?
There in the Society Hill area ? Implants ? Dentures ?
For years, when I'd come back for awhile to Philly, I'd always be at
the Knave Of Hearts. Think I heard it finally closed.
Ah, the " White Dog Cafe ". For me it was always " La Terrace ". Back
in the '70s , there on Sansom st. out on the Penn Campus. I lived in
Powelton Village. Right near MOVE , around the corner from Ira Einhorn.
Marty ( voicelit )
Joel344
Will do! I see Isaiah and Julia all the time!
I was one of the original customers at Knave of Hearts ..... you could
always find me there out back in the garden on Sunday mornings .....
Judy's just closed (Third and Bainbridge). I was their customer back
when it was on Leithgow Street right behind Zipperhead.
Another longstanding favorite was Astral Plane ......
Now Knave of Hearts ... the building and adjoining buildings were
bought out by the Chinese guys ..... they ripped out the entire
building while simultaneously rebuilding it with huge vertical spaces
overlooking balconies, the woiks. But its still in cinderblock! There
are no buyers. I was very worried that puppy would fall in while they
were working on it. But you know how clever the Chinese guys are!
Sadly, in the last few years Knave of Hearts did not keep up to its
original reputation.
I always liked Mickey Lubel and the gang over at Lickety Split. I see
Mickey around the neighborhood. He now sells real estate for Plumer
directly across American Street from Knave of Hearts.
The old neighborhood is still pretty much going strong! YIKES! We call
it the BOARDWALK!
Joel
voicelit
You've got a great sense of the " consumer's " situation . My "
research " into all this dentistry / implant stuff has taken me so far
as to have gotten myself onto the DentalTown forums. I managed to find
the answer to a few questions they use to keep the public out. It's
like sneaking into a private party , and overhearing what's really
going on.
But all this insider knowledge is just driving me nuts. Ignorance was
bliss. I know enough to just be in a rage about what choices I'm
getting stuck with 'cause I can't just comparison shop . Can't get that
info. \
Was talking to some receptionist yesterday about possibly setting up a
consult. I ask if the DDS does " minis ". She says " first you would
have to consult ( panoflex ) to know if the doctor recommends ... " etc
... Concept being that if the dentist had never taken those courses,
bought that technology then : guess what ( duh.. ) he's going ( in
great priestly tones ) to prescribe against " minis " . But you can't
just phone and ask if such and such a procedure is even offered by the
dentist.
Yes, Astral Plane back in the day. The '70s with people face down in
there chilled soup from qualudes.
Joel, why wouldn't I come to Philly and use you as my " denturist " /
mini implant guy ?
How does one find out about " now recruiting " studies, or dentists
that are just starting up a practice ? Probably should start a new
topic on this issue.
Marty ( voicelit )
Joel344
That's a great possiblity ....... but with some caveats.
Here is me:
Practiced in general dentistry and did bazillions of dentures ....
in upstate New York
Practiced in center city ....... sold my building, practice.
Its where the commuter tunnel is right now!
Left for a PhD research program in biochemistry/physiology ...
Medical College of Pennsylvania on Henry Avenue.
No PhD degree, but migrated into Department of Medicine, Division of
Endocrinology, Lipd Research Program. Was a lab research director
there. That's actually nothing more than giving someone a title to
avoid paying them anything but a mere pittance.
Back to general dentistry ........
City practice .... later moved to a small practice in Media PA.
Sold that.
Taught for three years at Harcum College's Expanded Function program
plus a couple of other teaching programs.
Did consulting ......
NOW ...... we are building a new facility for discount implants ....
yeah I know this sounds good. There will be general dentistry as well.
The implants will be placed by periodontists, with proper experience and
credentials ......
But as of today, the doors are not yet open! We got patients calling
and here I am putting them off. Now the entire implant thing is yet
more complicated. On day One we will be prepared to do bridgework, root
canal, etc., but the implant stuff is going on at another location but
not yet here.
So there is the time constraint!
But who knows?
At least we can help educate one another, possibly more!
voicelit
people ? Though, I'm learning how rare the dentist " interested " in
their work . I can't get any " traction " up here, no -sort of - social
leads. Just cold-call mainstream citizen ( sap ) stuff.
Meantime, I'm doin' all this with the new house stuff going on... you
know: living at Home Depot.
Old Cape Cod , needs tons of work. Plus, I'm slowly learning the
world of ride around lawn mowers, weed trimmer ( big time Stihl gas
powered ) , motion detector lights, on &on.
Got a new puppy ( 8 months ) from the shelter. Turns out to be a "
Kelpie " some sort of legendary Australian stock dog. Wants to heard
cattle about 50 miles each day.
Now the search for Dentures. Whew.
Well, just finished building my wife a spice rack . Now, more ride
around mowing, and 2nd attempt at the weed trimmer.
Marty ( voicelit )