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Jan Drew

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In the Matter of Mark Probert (Admitted as Mark S. Probert), a
Suspended Attorney, Respondent.
Grievance Committee for the Tenth Judicial District, Petitioner.

92-02731

SUPREME COURT OF NEW YORK, APPELLATE DIVISION, SECOND DEPARTMENT

183 A.D.2d 282; 590 N.Y.S.2d 747

November 9, 1992, Decided

PRIOR HISTORY: [***1]

Disciplinary proceedings instituted by the Grievance Committee for the
Tenth Judicial District. Respondent was admitted to the Bar on
February 15, 1978, at a term of the Appellate Division of the Supreme
Court in the Second Judicial Department, under the name Mark S.
Probert.

DISPOSITION: Ordered that the petitioner's motion to impose discipline
upon the respondent based upon his failure to appear or answer is
granted; and it is further,

HEADNOTES: Attorney and Client - Disciplinary Proceedings

Respondent attorney, who is charged with 22 counts of failing to
cooperate with investigations of alleged misconduct by the Grievance
Committee, and who has failed to answer or appear, is disbarred.

COUNSEL:

Frank A. Finnerty, Jr., Westbury (Muriel L. Gennosa of counsel), for
petitioner.

JUDGES: Mangano, P. J., Thompson, Bracken, Sullivan and Harwood, JJ.,
concur.

Ordered that the petitioner's motion to impose discipline upon the
respondent based upon his failure to appear or answer is granted; and
it is further,

Ordered that pursuant to Judiciary Law � 90, effective immediately,
the respondent, Mark Probert, is disbarred and his name is stricken
from the roll of attorneys and counselors-at-law; and it is further,

Ordered that the respondent shall continue to comply with this Court's
rules governing the conduct of disbarred, suspended and resigned
attorneys (22 NYCRR 691.10); and it is further,

Ordered that pursuant to Judiciary [***2] Law � 90, the respondent,
Mark Probert, is commanded to continue to desist and refrain (1) from
practicing law in any form, either as principal or as agent, clerk or
employee of another, (2) from appearing as an attorney or
counselor-at-law before any court, Judge, Justice, board, commission
or other public authority, (3) from giving to another an opinion as to
the law or its application or any advice in relation thereto, and (4)
from holding himself out in any way as an attorney and
counselor-at-law.

OPINIONBY: Per Curiam.

OPINION: [*282]

[**747] By decision and order of this Court dated September 29,
1989, the respondent was suspended from the practice of law until the
further order of this Court based upon his failure to cooperate with
the Grievance Committee. By further order of this Court dated June 4,
1992, the Grievance Committee was authorized to institute and
prosecute a disciplinary proceeding [*283] against the respondent
and the Honorable Moses M. Weinstein was appointed as Special Referee.

[**748] A notice of petition and petition was personally served upon
the respondent on July 2, 1992. No answer was forthcoming. The
petitioner now moves to hold the [***3] respondent in default. The
motion was personally served upon the respondent on August 14, 1992.
The respondent has failed to submit any papers in response to the
default motion.

The charges involve 22 counts of the respondent's failure to cooperate
with the Grievance Committee in its investigations into complaints of
professional misconduct.

The charges, if established, would require the imposition of a
disciplinary sanction against the respondent. Since the respondent has
chosen not to appear or answer in these proceedings, the charges must
be deemed established. The petitioner's motion to hold the respondent
in default and impose discipline is, therefore, granted. Accordingly,
the respondent is disbarred and his name is stricken from the roll of
attorneys and counselors-at-law, effective immediately

Source:

NY UNIFIED COURT SYSTEM, ATTORNEY REGIST. UNIT

Currency Status:

ARCHIVE RECORD

NAME & PROFESSIONAL INFORMATION

Name:

MARK PROBERT

Date Of Birth:

11/XX/1946

Gender:

MALE

Address:

1698 WEBSTER AVE

MERRICK, NY 11566

County:

NASSAU

Phone:

516-968-5572

EMPLOYER INFORMATION

Employer:

MARK S PROBERT ESQ

Organization:

PERSON

LICENSING INFORMATION

Licensing Agency:

NY STATE OFFICE OF COURT ADMINISTRATION

License/Certification Type:

ATTORNEY

License Number:

1253889

Issue Date:

00/00/1978

License Status:

DISBARRED

License State:

NY

From: Mark Probert - view profile
Date: Sun, Feb 11 2001 4:17 pm
Email: Mark Probert <markpr...@my-deja.com>
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Noah has had one since 11/26/96 (my birthday).

Mark Probert

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Peter B.

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"Jan Drew" <jdre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Amazing, and you the lady who claims to be a Christian and follows the
tenants?

Remember these by Jesus Christ? Love thy enemies. Forgive them that have
aught against thee.

Or have you returned to your Hedonist ways?


Happy Oyster

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Jul 10, 2009, 2:55:41 AM7/10/09
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On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 20:32:31 -0400, "Jan Drew" <jdre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>In the Matter of Mark Probert (Admitted as Mark S. Probert), a
>Suspended Attorney, Respondent.
>Grievance Committee for the Tenth Judicial District, Petitioner.
>

--
"Den Armen, den hasst die Verwandtschaft meist sehr,
den Reichen, den ehrt die Bekanntschaft viel mehr."
(Spr�che Salomos: (Kap 3, 13, 14, 22))
----------------------------------------->>> http://www.reimbibel.de

Mark Probert

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On Jul 10, 12:52 am, "Peter B." <i...@i-brag.com> wrote:
> "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>
> news:2Tv5m.13822$Dx2.10481@.com...

>
>
>
> Amazing, and you the lady who claims to be a Christian and follows the
> tenants?
>
> Remember these by Jesus Christ? Love thy enemies. Forgive them that have
> aught against thee.
>
> Or have you returned to your Hedonist ways?

Jan is quite typical of the German Christians who turned away during
the 1930's and 1940's.

And, she don't do hedonism (since she does not know what it means.)

Mark Probert

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Happy Oyster

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Jul 10, 2009, 3:31:12 PM7/10/09
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On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 06:24:21 -0700 (PDT), Mark Probert <mark.p...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Jan is quite typical of the German Christians who turned away during
>the 1930's and 1940's.
>

Swiss and Austrians also had their part. And they still do!

--
"Nie erf�hrt der fromme Christ, * Nach dem Tod gibt's kein Gericht,
dass sein Glaube irrig ist. * doch der Christ merkt das dann nicht!

Die Schreckliche Schrift in Reimen und Versen: http://www.reimbibel.de

Mark Probert

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Jul 10, 2009, 3:38:45 PM7/10/09
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On Jul 10, 3:31 pm, Happy Oyster <happy.oys...@ariplex.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 06:24:21 -0700 (PDT), Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com>

> wrote:
>
> >Jan is quite typical of the German Christians who turned away during
> >the 1930's and 1940's.
>
> Swiss and Austrians also had their part. And they still do!

I am so glad you mentioned the Swiss. From reading a first hand
account written by my father that I recently decrypted, and
interviewing survivors, I know their level of culpability.

Jan Drew

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Jan Drew

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Jul 10, 2009, 8:16:25 PM7/10/09
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Mark S Probert made the subject about Jan

It is not. Thus, he lied AGAIN

Jan Drew

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"Jan Drew" <jdre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> In the Matter of Mark Probert (Admitted as Mark S. Probert), a
> Suspended Attorney, Respondent.
> Grievance Committee for the Tenth Judicial District, Petitioner.
>

Mark Probert

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Jul 10, 2009, 8:21:30 PM7/10/09
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On Jul 10, 8:16 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Mark S Probert made the subject about Jan
>
> It is not.  Thus, he lied AGAIN
>

No, I did not lie, I merely changed the subject.

As long as you do it, I will do it.

Now, are you a Hedonist?

Jan Drew

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Jul 10, 2009, 8:22:56 PM7/10/09
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In the Matter of Mark Probert (Admitted as Mark S. Probert), a
Suspended Attorney, Respondent.
Grievance Committee for the Tenth Judicial District, Petitioner.

92-02731

Mark Probert

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On Jul 10, 8:22 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


> From:  Mark Probert - view profile
> Date:  Sun, Feb 11 2001 4:17 pm
> Email:   Mark Probert <markpr...@my-deja.com>
> Groups:   k12.chat.teacher
>
> Noah has had one since 11/26/96 (my birthday).

What does my son have to do with this? Why do you always post about
him?

Brian

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Jul 10, 2009, 9:23:47 PM7/10/09
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On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:13:10 -0400, "Jan Drew"
<jdre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
>"Jan Drew" <jdre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>news:2Tv5m.13822$Dx2....@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com...
>> In the Matter of Mark Probert (Admitted as Mark S. Probert), a
>> Suspended Attorney, Respondent.
>> Grievance Committee for the Tenth Judicial District, Petitioner.
>>
>> 92-02731

How many times do you need to post this?

Bye

Mark Probert

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Jul 10, 2009, 9:34:57 PM7/10/09
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On Jul 10, 9:23 pm, Brian <drmorrisnos...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:13:10 -0400, "Jan Drew"
>
> <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >"Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

> >news:2Tv5m.13822$Dx2....@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com...
> >> In the Matter of Mark Probert (Admitted as Mark S. Probert), a
> >> Suspended Attorney, Respondent.
> >> Grievance Committee for the Tenth Judicial District, Petitioner.
>
> >> 92-02731
>
> How many times do you need to post this?

Three Crays linked together cannot determine that number. She is
obsessed with me because she hates Jews.

Peter B.

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"Mark Probert" <mark.p...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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===============================
Recently the Swiss "attempted" to make reparations (sp) on that account
and also returned some stuff to its rightful owners. They did not also
return the interest made on the monies involved and I don't believe they
were totally truthful.


Peter B.

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"Jan Drew" <jdre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Mark S Probert made the subject about Jan
>

You lied again. Jan Drew. the subject never changed at this point.

You are one wretched old bag


Peter B.

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"Mark Probert" <mark.p...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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================================

Good grief, then how can she claim to be a Christian? She would have to
hate about everyone in the Bible, including Jesus Christ. He, a Jew, can
save her but how can she accept if she is a willing tool of Satan? The
whole creation awaits the return of the Messiah, King of the Jews.

What a pickle of a situation that wretched old bag is in.


Happy Oyster

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Jul 11, 2009, 1:43:28 AM7/11/09
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On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:31:26 -0700, "Peter B." <in...@i-brag.com> wrote:

>Good grief, then how can she claim to be a Christian?

Oh, with a bit more knowledge about German politics you would know that Jan Drew
rightaway is totally qualified to become German Kanzler.

Happy Oyster

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On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:22:56 -0400, "Jan Drew" <jdre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
> In the Matter of

... counting Jan Drew proves to be a zerobrainer.

Seldom, even in the net, is found a person who has so ZERO standards as has Jan
Drew.

Just look at this posting of Fri, 10 Jul 2009 23:11:53 -0400:

On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 23:11:53 -0400, "Jan Drew" <jdre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
>"Mark Probert" <mark.p...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>news:e5d4c9a4-edb6-429e...@y17g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...


>On Jul 9, 8:51 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>

>> news:rzd5m.6677$kA....@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > Posted that Noah his son's birthday was 11/26/96 (my birthday).
>>
>> > He has numerous posts that are Mark Probert 1...@hotmail.com
>>
>> > 2009- 1946 = 64 -in November. My math is not wrong.
>>
>> > Thus, Mark S Probert is a liar.
>
>Since November 2009 is in the future, I will not be 63 until then.
>
>You are amazingly stupid.
>
>November 26th 2009 is in 2009.
>2009-1946 YOU will be 64, not 63. You are 63 now. On November 26, 2009 you
>will be 64.
>Period.
>
>Thanks for proving you are a liar again.
>And, I am correct. You and you alone posted your birthday.


Jan Drew even cannot count. Jan Drew cannot even face facts if pointed to with
his nose.

Jan Drew is a shame for the human race.


Oh, just to mention: THIS PERSON Jan Drew dares to give medical advice...

You can follow him ... if you want to die.

Message has been deleted

Mark Probert

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On Jul 10, 10:16 pm, "Peter B." <i...@i-brag.com> wrote:
> "Mark Probert" <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote in message

You can bet your ass that they were not, and never will be. I am
decrypting my father's diaries about the months he was held by the
Swiss after he escaped from a POW camp. He describes their actions in
turning over Jews to the death squads.

Mark Probert

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On Jul 10, 10:20 pm, "Peter B." <i...@i-brag.com> wrote:
> "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

When I make the subject about Jan, please keep it that way. She does
not like it, and has hissy fits.

Peter B.

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"Mark Probert" <mark.p...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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==============================
That would be an interesting read and insight. He must have been able to
get somewhere free or relatively free according to your age. That was a
sad era, yet there were some wonderful stories that came out of it, some
bittersweet.


Jan Drew

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"Mark Probert" <mark.p...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 10, 10:20 pm, "Peter B." <i...@i-brag.com> wrote:
> "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>
> news:LRQ5m.3501$Ad2....@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...
>
> > Mark S Probert made the subject about Jan
>
> You lied again. Jan Drew. the subject never changed at this point.
>
> You are one wretched old bag

Thank You for showing once again you do not read Torah everyday.

http://www.bodhicitta.net/Compassion%20for%20Humanity%20in%20the%20Jewish%20Tradition.htm

Choosing Judaism: Jewish Concern for 'TZEDAKAH" (Charity) and Social Justice
Most Jews are aware of the traditional story about the great Jewish scholar,
Hillel, who was asked by a Roman soldier to summarize Judaism "while
standing on one foot"-in other words, to put all of Jewish theology in a
nutshell. Hillel's response was to repeat Judaism's original "Golden Rule":
"That which is hateful to yourself, do not do unto others. That is the heart
of the Torah; all the rest is commentary. Now go and study!" The "Golden
Rule" is in that portion of the Torah known as "The Holiness Code"
(Leviticus, Chapter 19). It is a basic principle underlying the traditional
Jewish commitment to fairness, human responsibility, and social justice.
These fundamental values, rooted in the Torah, have led Jews to establish
relatively high standards of generosity for charitable causes. Actually, the
concept of tzedakah extends beyond charity-its usual translation-and
includes the dual concepts of righteousness and human
responsibility-something a Jew is required to do as a part of her or his
Jewishness, not simply a voluntary act. The great Jewish scholar,
philosopher, and rabbi, Moses Maimonides, who lived 800 years ago,
delineated eight different levels of charity. As you read these words,
consider how relevant these Jewish teachings are today, more than 800 years
later: Going from the lowest level to the highest: 1. One who gives
unwillingly. 2. One who gives cheerfully, but not enough. 3. One who gives
enough, but not till he is asked. 4. One who gives before being asked, but
directly to the poor person. 5. The poor one knows from whom he or she
takes, but the giver does not know who is receiving. 6. The giver knows to
whom he or she gives, but the receiver does not know the giver. 7. The giver
does not know to whom he or she gives, nor does the poor person know from
whom he or she receives. The highest form of charity is to strengthen the
hand of the poor by giving a loan, or joining in partnership, or training
out of the individual's poverty, to help become independent. The highest
level of charity-helping a person establish herself or himself-is the
foremost ideal of our modem social agenda as we address the complex issues
of poverty and welfare and seek the best ways to help people break the
chains of poverty. The words of Maimonides exemplify the compassion of
Judaism and also vividly show how Jewish sages have sought to point the way
for Jews to help make our world a better place in which all people might
live with dignity and self-respect. Some people are surprised when they
learn that Judaism embodies compassion and love, for language in the Torah
often appears harsh to the modem ear. However, one must remember and
understand that the Jewish Bible-what Christianity called the "Old
Testament"-was written 3,000 years ago. Just as it is important to judge
Thomas Jefferson, the author of the Declaration of Independence, in the
context of the times in which he lived, and not in absolute terms of his
having been a slave owner, we must judge the Jewish Bible, including the
first five books known as the Torah, in terms relative to what was taking
place in society 3,000 years ago. By that standard, the Torah was remarkably
progressive. (For instance, the well-known adage, "an eye for an eye," by
contemporary times may seem harsh, but this concept was an improvement over
the mores of Middle Eastern society 3,000 years ago when one could be killed
for injuring another person's eye.) Actually, although the Torah is an
ancient document, there is in Judaism a process of study, commentary, and
re-interpretation that has allowed the Torah to continue to speak to Jews in
every generation. Even though Christianity's "New Testament" was written
more than 1,000 years after the Jewish Bible, nevertheless both have
passages that are harsh by modern standards. Both also have language of love
and compassion, and there are many important similarities such as the Golden
Rule. These similarities are not surprising since Jesus was raised as a Jew
as were all of his contemporary disciples. On the other hand, there are
major philosophical differences, the most fundamental being that Jews did
not, and do not, believe that Jesus, who lived and died a Jew, was the Son
of God. Another central difference was that Christianity asserted that an
individual had to "believe in Jesus in order to be saved," therefore denying
any life in "heaven" to non-believers. In sharp contrast, the central theme
of Judaism was one of universalism with the "gates of heaven" open to all
who lead an exemplary life of good actions and deeds, regardless of
religious creed. Although the Jewish Bible was written nearly 3,000 years
ago, much of it still speaks directly to us today. For example, in an
ancient world in which slavery and injustice were rampant, the Jewish
prophets were among the first to call for social justice-for everyone, not
just Jews. One of the most meaningful aspects of Judaism is that it offers a
religious and cultural environment and a structure in which these moral
values can be enhanced and also transmitted from one generation to the next.
Some people assert that there is no longer a need to have any religious
identity and that these values can be transmitted automatically without the
need for a religious framework. However, most thoughtful Jews believe the
remarkable extent of active involvement of modern Jews in support of
charitable causes and issues of freedom and social justice did not arise in
a vacuum but rather developed out of a religious and cultural heritage and
faith, nurtured and refined over a period of 4,000 years. This Jewish
heritage has been a very important factor in influencing and encouraging
individual Jews to speak out on behalf of freedom, compassion, love, peace
and justice for all. Therefore, committed Jews seek Jewish continuity, not
just for themselves, but for all humankind.

>When I make the subject about Jan, please keep it that way. She does
not like it, and has hissy fits.

Prove it using my very own words.

You also cannot prove Michael Jackson is my hero.

My heroes are GOD and Jesus Christ, his son.

What happened to you not reply to me?

More proof your UDP was one big lie and fake.

Mark Probert

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On Jul 12, 6:12 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> "Mark Probert" <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:f3a07c5c-103a-4737...@l31g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 10, 10:20 pm, "Peter B." <i...@i-brag.com> wrote:
>
> > "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>
> >news:LRQ5m.3501$Ad2....@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...
>
> > > Mark S Probert made the subject about Jan
>
> > You lied again. Jan Drew. the subject never changed at this point.
>
> > You are one wretched old bag
>
> Thank You for showing once again you do not read Torah everyday.

Wrong, you stupid moron....

I did not say that.

Once again, proving that your refusal to properly quote is intentional
so that you can attack people you do not like.

Jan Drew

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Jan Drew

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"Mark Probert" Blathered:

>Wrong, you stupid moron....

Thanks for more proof you do not read Torah everyday.


Jan Drew

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Jul 12, 2009, 9:36:32 PM7/12/09
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What does this have to do with m.h.a.?

Mark Probert

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Jul 12, 2009, 10:23:56 PM7/12/09
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He encrypted the hundred and sixty or so pages of his diary using a
one-time pad method with key varying on a daily basis. I have recently
found how he varied his keys, but finding the original source material
is arduous, and, so far, I have decrypted only forty (in two years).

Mark Probert

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Jul 12, 2009, 10:24:59 PM7/12/09
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Hey, you were the stupid moron. You snipped what I wrote.

Mark Probert

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Jul 12, 2009, 10:25:40 PM7/12/09
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On Jul 12, 9:36 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> What does this have to do with m.h.a.?

What does my family have to do with m.h.a.

Happy Oyster

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On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:58:59 -0400, "Jan Drew" <jdre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

[... another one of Jan Dew's mobbing attacks at Mark ...]


Some things really are amazing. The stupiditiy, the ignorance, the arrogance,
and the criminal drive of Jan Drew really are impressive. Let's look at this
posting by Jan Drew...


So let's take a look at this Jan Drew:

On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 02:45:44 -0400, "Jan Drew" <jdre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

[...]

>> To make things a bit easier to see, this is a table of events.
>>
>> A person born on 26.11. 1946 is on
>>
>> 26.11.1946 born

[...]

>> 26.11.2007 61 years old
>> 26.11.2008 62 years old
>> 26.11.2009 63 years old
>> ************************
>> 26.11.2010 64 years old
>>
>> On the 26.11. 2009 that person WILL BECOME 63 years old!
>> ********************************************************
>
>NO they will not. They will be 64.
>

>Wrong again. This is 2009. On November of this year you will be 64.
######################################################################

>Od Course you will be 64 in 2010, until 11/26. Then, you wil be 65.
#####################################################################


Stupidity beyond imagination... Jan Drew exposes himself as one of the greatest
idiots in the whole net...


How about some math? Let's shorten the time-span a bit:


A person born on 26.11. 1946 is on 26.11.1946 born
A person born on 26.11. 1946 is on 26.11.1947 1 year old
A person born on 26.11. 1946 is on 26.11.1948 2 years old

According to Jan Drew that child would be born as a 1-year-old, and 1 year
later, it already would be 2 years old.


How can a person like Jan Drew, with - obviously - not the least ability nor
credibility give medical advice? Only a suicider would believe him.

For years now Jan Drew is pestering the Net with his lies, forgeries, false
medical claims, his Net stalking, hatred seeding, AND with his INTENSIVE
advertising for the naturopathic mafia.


Who pays Jan Drew?
******************

Happy Oyster

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Yes, that is one more of Jan Dew's mobbing attacks at Mark ...


Some things really are amazing. The stupiditiy, the ignorance, the arrogance,
and the criminal drive of Jan Drew really are impressive. Let's look at this
posting by Jan Drew...

Happy Oyster

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On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:36:32 -0400, "Jan Drew" <jdre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>What does this have to do with m.h.a.?
>

Now for the umpteenth time Jan Drew posts exactly the same mess TWICE. WHY?

Can't Jan Drew even count to 2 ???

Let's take a look at this "math" by Jan Drew:

On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 02:45:44 -0400, "Jan Drew" <jdre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

[...]

>> To make things a bit easier to see, this is a table of events.
>>
>> A person born on 26.11. 1946 is on
>>
>> 26.11.1946 born

[...]

>> 26.11.2007 61 years old
>> 26.11.2008 62 years old
>> 26.11.2009 63 years old
>> ************************
>> 26.11.2010 64 years old
>>
>> On the 26.11. 2009 that person WILL BECOME 63 years old!
>> ********************************************************
>
>NO they will not. They will be 64.
>

>Wrong again. This is 2009. On November of this year you will be 64.
######################################################################

>Od Course you will be 64 in 2010, until 11/26. Then, you wil be 65.
#####################################################################

Let's shorten the time-span a bit:

A person born on 26.11. 1946 is on 26.11.1946 born
A person born on 26.11. 1946 is on 26.11.1947 1 year old
A person born on 26.11. 1946 is on 26.11.1948 2 years old

According to Jan Drew that child would be born as a 1-year-old, and 1 year
later, it already would be 2 years old.


Jan Drew even can't count to 2.

Peter B.

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"Jan Drew" <jdre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:adt6m.8898$8r....@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com...

>
> "Mark Probert" <mark.p...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:f3a07c5c-103a-4737...@l31g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 10, 10:20 pm, "Peter B." <i...@i-brag.com> wrote:
>> "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:LRQ5m.3501$Ad2....@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>
>> > Mark S Probert made the subject about Jan
>>
>> You lied again. Jan Drew. the subject never changed at this point.
>>
>> You are one wretched old bag
>
> Thank You for showing once again you do not read Torah everyday.
>

Of course I don't you wretched old bag, I snipped what you posted as it
was valueless to anyone. It was nothing more than an ill founded
commentary by someone who no doubt has a brain about the size and color
as yours.


Peter B.

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"Jan Drew" <jdre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:oFv6m.7420$cl4....@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com...

>
> "Jan Drew" <jdre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:adt6m.8898$8r....@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>
>> "Mark Probert" <mark.p...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:f3a07c5c-103a-4737...@l31g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jul 10, 10:20 pm, "Peter B." <i...@i-brag.com> wrote:
>>> "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:LRQ5m.3501$Ad2....@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>>
>>> > Mark S Probert made the subject about Jan
>>>
>>> You lied again. Jan Drew. the subject never changed at this point.
>>>
>>> You are one wretched old bag
>> My heroes are GOD and Jesus Christ, his son.

Then why not emulate them instead of playing the part of a hypocrite and
being a willing tool of Satan?

Besides, They do not fit in the hero class, They are far superior to
that.


Mark Probert

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On Jul 13, 2:00 am, "Peter B." <i...@i-brag.com> wrote:
> "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>
> news:adt6m.8898$8r....@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Mark Probert" <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> >news:f3a07c5c-103a-4737...@l31g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jul 10, 10:20 pm, "Peter B." <i...@i-brag.com> wrote:
> >> "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>
> >>news:LRQ5m.3501$Ad2....@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...
>
> >> > Mark S Probert made the subject about Jan
>
> >> You lied again. Jan Drew. the subject never changed at this point.
>
> >> You are one wretched old bag
>
> > Thank You for showing once again you do not read Torah everyday.
>
> Of course I don't you wretched old bag, I snipped what you posted as it
> was valueless to anyone.

I think it is funny. I just love how she shows her true colors without
my help.

Mark Probert

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On Jul 12, 6:12 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> What happened to you not reply to me?
>
> More proof your UDP was one big lie and fake.

I left you alone for nearly three years. You continued to post your
stalking about me and my family.

You did not leave us alone and I grew tired of it.

Since then, you have provided the absolute proof of your evil
intentions.

And, you proved you cannot do simple math.

Jan Drew

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"Mark Probert" <mark.p...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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What does this have to do with m.h.a.?
You posted about your family again.

Jan Drew

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"Mark Probert" <mark.p...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 12, 9:36 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> What does this have to do with m.h.a.?

What does my family have to do with m.h.a.

"Mark Probert" <mark.p...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:c3fb2c8b-309c-476f...@f16g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...


On Jul 11, 10:25 pm, "Peter B." <i...@i-brag.com> wrote:
> "Mark Probert" <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>

> news:e0ee83b9-fd44-4b4e...@j12g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...

> ==============================
> That would be an interesting read and insight. He must have been able to
> get somewhere free or relatively free according to your age. That was a
> sad era, yet there were some wonderful stories that came out of it, some
> bittersweet.

He encrypted the hundred and sixty or so pages of his diary using a
one-time pad method with key varying on a daily basis. I have recently
found how he varied his keys, but finding the original source material
is arduous, and, so far, I have decrypted only forty (in two years).

================================================
Your father is your family.
You just keep posting about them.
Thus, you make your family the news of the above groups.

Furthermore, you forgot all the many times you posted about anecdotes.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.attn-deficit/msg/b47238df12888f43

Anecdotes are not facts. They are, at best interesting stories. At
worst, outright lies.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/21616fe7354cb992
Anecdotes are bullshit. I use facts.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/d94426f8742bc892

Anecdotes are bullshit and prove nothing.

Anecdotes are limited FACTS and not necessarily conclusive.

Anecdotes are bullshit and prove nothing.


http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/21616fe7354cb992

Feb 4 2006

You could get out there and meet some real live people. You could even find
> that often those anecdotes are worth more than the proof you cry for. Or
> you can continue along the way you are. Won't matter anyway, we all die
> sooner or later. trt

1) Your method of responding results in incorporating your response with
my comments, thus making it difficult to ascertain who said what.

2) I do live among the real world, and have friends who are dying from
cancer. I have losses in my family from cancer.


Anecdotes are bullshit. I use facts.


http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/86f3a1325a9d56d9?hl=en&

Feb 5 2006

>>> You could get out there and meet some real live people. You could even
>>> find that often those anecdotes are worth more than the proof you cry
>>> for. Or you can continue along the way you are. Won't matter anyway, we
>>> all die sooner or later. trt


>> 1) Your method of responding results in incorporating your response with
>> my comments, thus making it difficult to ascertain who said what.


>> 2) I do live among the real world, and have friends who are dying from
>> cancer. I have losses in my family from cancer.


>> Anecdotes are bullshit. I use facts.


> Anecdotes are limited FACTS and not necessarily conclusive.

Anecdotes are bullshit and prove nothing.


http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/86f3a1325a9d56d9?hl=en&

Feb 3 2006

> True, I cannot. You may not have noticed that I said so in my post. But,
> not having sufficient proof for you is not proof that my words were not
> true.

Hogwash. If any alternative met those criteria, the information would be
readily available and you would post a few hundred links.

> I KNOW a person who was diagnosed, and refused to go along with the
> accepted treatment. That person is alive today, some 10 -12 years later.
> With no sign of a reoccurrence. It may surprise you , but most people who
> get well without a doctor, do not keep records. They just get on with
> their life. trt


What would surprise me is that my question were answered with something
other than an unverifiable anecdote.


http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/7df98eb79c10e562

Feb 22 2006

JanD wrote:
> Anecdotes are Bullshit. Mark Probert.


Anecdotes are bullshit to prove a medical claim. No question. However,
when discussing personal experience, they are valid.

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
From: Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 19:36:24 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Jun 13 2009 10:36 pm
Subject: Re: The Peace efforts of Mark S Probert

On Jun 13, 10:29 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

> > I have raised the issue of peace with you several times.

> More than several. Using your so called peace offer.
> With CONDITIONS. You made it up to try and force
> IIena.


> Sadly, your OWN despicable behavior is the results.


> Sadly, you seem


> > to have no intention of beating your sword into a plowshare.


> More sadly is your LIES. YOU and YOU alone made your own bed.


> Now..LIE in it.


> MP *When someone proffers an idea, it is their burden to prove it.*

Mark Probert

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Nothing. So what?

> You posted about your family again

Correct, *I* posted about *MY* family. Not yours.

You have no right to post about mine. I have never posted about yours.

Period.

Mark Probert

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On Jul 13, 10:02 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> "Mark Probert" <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:566e27eb-c63c-4018...@j21g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 12, 9:36 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > What does this have to do with m.h.a.?
>
> What does my family have to do with m.h.a.
>

I am amazed. You got a basic concept correct.

> You just keep posting about them.

No, *I* posted about *HIM*.

> Thus, you make your family the news of the above groups.

So fucking what? It does NOT give _you_ the right to post about my
family.

I have never posted about yours, and, in fact, anyone on Usenet.

Do not post about mine.


Peter B.

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"Jan Drew" <jdre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:%tR6m.13435$j84...@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...

Why did you ask such a stupid question? You spammed this all over the
net and complain only about one of the groups YOU selected?

I asked him as I was interested, shrew, why not stick to your broom and
mop?


Happy Oyster

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On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:48:40 -0400, "Jan Drew" <jdre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>I have recently
>found how he varied his keys, but finding the original source material
>is arduous, and, so far, I have decrypted only forty (in two years).
>
>What does this have to do with m.h.a.?
>You posted about your family again.

Jan Drew is a rooten liar and Net stalker.

Jan Drew is so god-damned stupid that he even can't count to 2.

--
"Es heuchelt meist die Priesterschaft,
ihr Glaube ist l�ngst abgeschafft.
Man liebt das Geld, man liebt den Glanz,
man liebt den ganzen Firlefanz." http://www.reimbibel.de

Happy Oyster

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On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 22:02:18 -0400, "Jan Drew" <jdre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Jan Drew still does not answer the question by Mark Probert.

No wonder as Jan Drew is a notorious Net stalker, liar, and forger.

Jan Drew is so god-damned stupid that he even cannot count to 2.

Jan Drew

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"Mark Probert" <mark.p...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Nothing. So what?

Period.

Not true.

Mark Probert - 13 Nov 2005 04:53 GMT
> Chicken to discuss. DISHONESTLY changes title to take the focus off of
> him,
> as usual.
>
> Still wants to blame others for HIS LIES and his being a HYPOCRITE.

STILL OBSESSED WITH ME? WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF YOUR HUSBAND KNEW....

YOU STALK AND FOLLOW ME AROUND...I AM A MARRIED MAN
-----------------------------------
I thought you believed in Freedom of speech.

WebHide optionsShow options... Results 1 - 10 of about 2,600 for Mark
Probert Freedom of speech. (0.29 seconds)


Mark Probert

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Where did I post anything about your husband? Was there ONE fact about
the man in my post?

No, there was none.

Meanwhile, you post links showing my wife's place of employment and my
son in a wheelchair.

YOU are too deaf, stupid and blind to see the difference.

Other's do not.

Happy Oyster

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On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:08:06 -0400, "Jan Drew" <jdre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>YOU STALK AND FOLLOW ME AROUND...I AM A MARRIED MAN

As we long had guessed...

--
"Hurenkindern soll'n nicht kommen * Gott verst��t die Kindeskinder
in des Herrn Gemeinde. * von Huren(5. Buch Mose, Kap. 23)
Dort versammeln sich die Frommen, *
nicht des Herren Feinde." * http://www.reimbibel.de

Jan Drew

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"Mark Probert" <mark.p...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:beedfd20-e5c4-4689...@p23g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...

No, there was none.

You mentioned my husband.

Meanwhile, you post links showing my wife's place of employment and my
son in a wheelchair.

You sent the email to me not her.
You also posted the pictures of your sons. Not me.
I just reposted them.
You and YOU alone are the one who posted the pictures.
Then, you lied and posted you have no kids.

YOU are too deaf, stupid and blind to see the difference.

Other's do not.

Other's like Yappy, Bob Officer. Peter Bowditch, Peter B.
Big deal.

Happy Oyster

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On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:37:43 -0400, "Jan Drew" <jdre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>Where did I post anything about your husband? Was there ONE fact about
>the man in my post?

Strange things Jan Drew does...

And, strange, what Jan Drew cannot do. See, Jan Drew cannot even count to 2.

Jan Drew pests the net for years now, makes false medical claims, and gives
"advice". But actually Jan Drew is so god-damned stupid that he even cannot
count to 2.

Let's take a look at this "math" by Jan Drew:

[...]

[...]


Jan Drew even can't count to 2.


Strange creatures are in the net. Beware...

--
"Hurenweiberenkelkinder * Gott verst��t die Kindeskinder
hasst der Herrgott auch nicht minder. * von Huren(5.Buch Mose,Kap.23)
Dies gilt auch f�r Ammoniter *
und die miesen Moabiter." * http://www.reimbibel.de

Mark Probert

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On Jul 15, 9:37 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> "Mark Probert" <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> Where did I post anything about your husband? Was there ONE fact about


> the man in my post?
>
> No, there was none.

Correct. However, youpost their personal information, etc. I do not do
that to your family, although I know just about everything.

> You mentioned my husband.

So what? In the context of trying to get you to leave me the fuck
alone. YOU are responsible for that.

> Meanwhile, you post links showing my wife's place of employment and my
> son in a wheelchair.
>
> You sent the email to me not her.

To you? I thought she sent the email to Ilena. Are you impersonating
Ilena.

> You also posted the pictures of your sons.  Not me.

So fucking what? That is MY right, NOT YOURS.

> I just reposted them.

Which is NOT your right.

> You and YOU alone are the one who posted the pictures.

Like I said, so fucking what?

> Then, you lied and posted you have no kids.

Post one link to a post from me, not someone who you fantasize is me,
to prove that. You cannot. I am proud of my children and would never
deny them.

> YOU are too deaf, stupid and blind to see the difference.
>
> Other's do not.
>
> Other's like Yappy, Bob Officer. Peter Bowditch, Peter B.

> Big deal.-

And anyone else who has ever read this newsgroup, except for Linda the
Loonie and Wholefarter. Neither of which a rational person would be
boasting about.

Mark Probert

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BTW, now that I have your attention, do explain why you post about my
family. What is your purpose?

Also, when will you acknowledge that you lied about my age?

Please respond using your own words, not a cut and paste job!

Jan Drew

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I suggest you read your terms of service
At Gmail.com,Optimum.net, cv.net, and google.com


"Mark Probert" <mark.p...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:d08603b5-c6a3-4f6e...@r24g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...

Jan Drew

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"Mark Probert" <mark.p...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:9f2f9949-4217-454e...@p36g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...

> BTW, now that I have your attention, do explain why you post about my
> family. What is your purpose?

You posted about your family and the link that showed your two sons.
Then, you lied and posted you had no children.


>
> Also, when will you acknowledge that you lied about my age?

I did not lie about your age. You posted your birthday.


>
> Please respond using your own words, not a cut and paste job!

I just did again.

Mark Probert

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Jul 15, 2009, 11:17:00 PM7/15/09
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On Jul 15, 11:01 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I suggest you read your terms of service
> At Gmail.com,Optimum.net, cv.net, and google.com

You are a fascit pig.

And, being the bigot you are, you are far from kosher.

Mark Probert

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What is the matter? Cannot answerr?

Coward!

Happy Oyster

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On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:15:19 -0400, "Jan Drew" <jdre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
>"Mark Probert" <mark.p...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:9f2f9949-4217-454e...@p36g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
>> BTW, now that I have your attention, do explain why you post about my
>> family. What is your purpose?
>
>You posted about your family and the link that showed your two sons.
>Then, you lied and posted you had no children.
>>
>> Also, when will you acknowledge that you lied about my age?
>
>I did not lie about your age. You posted your birthday.


Jan Drew is a rotten liar.

[...]

[...]

--

Happy Oyster

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On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:01:45 -0400, "Jan Drew" <jdre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>Reply-To: "Jan Drew" <jdre...@sbcglobal.net>
>From: "Jan Drew" <jdre...@sbcglobal.net>
>Newsgroups: alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,alt.support.breast-implant,sci.med.dentistry
>References: <2Tv5m.13822$Dx2....@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com> <4a56c915$1...@news.x-privat.org> <5887315b-4039-4968...@k20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com> <1n5f55h7u4c42bi46...@4ax.com> <c5f6d3c6-9b06-41d2...@m18g2000vbi.googlegroups.com> <4a57...@news.x-privat.org> <e0ee83b9-fd44-4b4e...@j12g2000vbl.googlegroups.com> <4a59...@news.x-privat.org> <c3fb2c8b-309c-476f...@f16g2000vbf.googlegroups.com> <%tR6m.13435$j84...@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com> <598f2214-9713-4260...@r34g2000vba.googlegroups.com> <NCc7m.16203$j84....@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com> <beedfd20-e5c4-4689...@p23g2000vbl.googlegroups.com> <vDv7m.11922$lv5....@flpi149.ffdc.sbc.com> <d08603b5-c6a3-4f6e...@r24g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>
>In-Reply-To: <d08603b5-c6a3-4f6e...@r24g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>
>Subject: Re: Turning every which way

>Message-ID: <JCw7m.18120$Dx2....@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com>

>NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.76.216.180
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>Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:01:45 -0400


>I suggest you read your terms of service
>At Gmail.com,Optimum.net, cv.net, and google.com

How about the terms of service of prodigy.net and att.net !?

How about their housing of the Net stalker Jan Drew ?

Who is involved in this plot, which goes on for years now?
**********************************************************

Mark Probert

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On Jul 15, 11:15 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> "Mark Probert" <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:9f2f9949-4217-454e...@p36g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
>
> > BTW, now that I have your attention, do explain why you post about my
> > family. What is your purpose?
>
> You posted about your family and the link that showed your two sons.
> Then, you lied and posted you had no children.

No, dipwad, I never claimed I had no children. You snipped what I
wrote:

Post one link to a post from me, not someone who you fantasize is me,
to prove that. You cannot. I am proud of my children and would never
deny them.

> > Also, when will you acknowledge that you lied about my age?


>
> I did not lie about your age.  You posted your birthday.

You lied because I told you my age, and you insisted I was older, even
though I posted incontrovertible proof.

You lied.


> > Please respond using your own words, not a cut and paste job!
>
> I just did again.

But ignored and snipped much of what I wrote.

Coward.


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> On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:35:36 +0100, in misc.health.alternative, "t"
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>
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> User reported to Giganews for posting multiply blank messages.
>
> Abuse of the Net violation and violation of Giganews TOS and AUP.
>
>
> --
> Bob Officer
> Posting the truth
> http://www.skeptics.com.au


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Newsgroups: alt.support.breast-implant
From: aloysio...@aol.com (AloysiousX)
Date: 07 Jan 2004 18:59:31 GMT
Local: Wed, Jan 7 2004 2:59 pm
Subject: Re: A New Year's Resolution

I have no children, Sistah Jan.

As Salaam Aleikum, my Sistah!


AloysiousX

Newsgroups: alt.support.breast-implant
From: aloysio...@aol.com (AloysiousX)
Date: 06 Jan 2004 22:31:39 GMT
Local: Tues, Jan 6 2004 6:31 pm
Subject: Re: A New Year's Resolution

You know something, Sistah Ilena, I'm not Mark Probert, but it's
pretty clear
who the coward is.

Newsgroups: alt.support.breast-implant
From: aloysio...@aol.com (AloysiousX)
Date: 07 Jan 2004 18:57:50 GMT
Local: Wed, Jan 7 2004 2:57 pm
Subject: Re: A New Year's Resolution

Sistah Jan, I'd never heard of you until you made your post in the
breast
implant group, much in the same way I'd never heard of Mark Probert
until
Sistah Ilena mentioned him.

path:
archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!newsfeed2.dallas1.level3.net!
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mail
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X-Admin: n...@aol.com
From: aloysio...@aol.com (AloysiousX)
Newsgroups: alt.support.breast-implant
Date: 06 Jan 2004 17:54:38 GMT
References: <19faaec.0401060908.68a7...@posting.google.com>
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Subject: Re: A New Year's Resolution
Message-ID: 20040106125438.01826.00002...@mb-m18.aol.com

> Subj: Is There Some Reason...> Date: 2/12/2004 2:18:07 PM Pacific Standard
> Time> From: AloysiousX> To: JDrew63929>>> Is there some reason why you
> won't let me ask you a few questions, Jan? > I'm> really curious about
> your involvement with Ilena Rosenthal.>>> But I guess my most basic
> question is whether or not you are in California> (like I am), or over in
> Indiana, like your profile says.>>> I had thought you were out west, but I
> guess not.>>> As Salaam Aleikum!>>> Aloysious>
> Mark Probert markprobert1...@hotmail.com AloysiousX

Jan Drew

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On Jul 15, 11:34�pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:

Message from discussion Ritalin Fraud


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From: Mark Probert <markpr...@my-deja.com>
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: Ritalin Fraud
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:17:28 GMT
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In article <3A86BD82.85718...@concentric.net>,
"Magi D. Shepley" <ma...@catsincyberspace.concentric.net> wrote:
> What is a Ritalin program, Gary? I don't prescribe medication. In
fact, I
> honestly couldn't tell you if any of my students TAKE medication
except for two...
> one boy has a baclofen pump for spasticity

Noah has had one since 11/26/96 (my birthday). It is a remarkable
program.

I liked it so much I bought stock in the company. Even bought Noah ten
shares.

It has split twice since then and is doing great, just like Noah.

Their newest product, used to treat urinary incontinence in women, has
a great side effect: orgasms.

--
January 20, 2001: The first day of the Theocratic States of America.

"The core of the 1st Amendment is that we don't vote on religion in
this country and allow the majority to use the instruments of
government to spread the faith."


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On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:37:38 -0700 (PDT), Jan Drew <drew...@gmail.com> wrote:

Oh, well, we have a better quote...

<quote>
From: jdrew...@aol.com (JDrew63929)
Subject: Re: Chronic constipation
Date: 1999/06/26
Message-ID: <19990626015401...@ng-cr1.aol.com>#1/1
References: <01bebf85$872ecf20$147141cf@default>
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
X-Admin: ne...@aol.com


>Proof, Smoof, Studies, Smuties.
>
>*** Right! Who needs facts and proof?


Some studies are quite ridiculous, like the one that states that diet and sugar
have nothing to do with a child being hyeractive.


Just believe any quack you come
>across...


The only ones I have found are MD's.
>

How would you know anyway, how much experience
>: have you had?
>
>*** And your experience came from a Day Care Center of all places.


What are you talking about? We are talking of bowel problems. Has nothing to
do with a day care center. And, what do you know about quality day care?
>

You don't know zelch about any of the items listed in the bowel
>: cleanse, they might possibly work for your mouth!
>
>*** More childish nonsense from poor, sick old Jan.


Well, Jan is doing fine, even went line dancing tonight! Guess that tells you
something about my feet..
>

: I wasn't posting to you anyway. Some people here have some "common
>sense", so
>: bug off and let others make up their own minds.
>
>*** Anyone with any common sence would skip all your posts Jan, after
>reading just a few.
>--
> Carol...


Looks like you are still reading them, so I guess you don't have any common
sense.. With all the pretent information that your posts contain, you have a
lot of nerve in saying anything about anyone's posts!

Jan
</quote>


Regards,

Aribert Deckers
--
"F�r den Herrscher war es gut zu h�ren, Brief des Paulus an Titus
'Wir werden nicht beim Herrschen st�ren, http://www.reimbibel.de
und weil wir nicht den Kaiser hassen,
kann dieser uns in Ruhe lassen.'"

Happy Oyster

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On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:40:12 -0700 (PDT), Jan Drew <drew...@gmail.com> wrote:

No, we have a better quote...

<quote>
From: jdrew...@aol.com (JDrew63929)
Subject: Re: Dr Hulda Clark SCAM AGAIN!
Date: 1999/03/02
Message-ID: <19990301233835...@ng49.aol.com>#1/1
References: <01be6462$e89b0a40$9a7141cf@default>


Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
X-Admin: ne...@aol.com


>* It's all a SCAM! If you think you have parasites have a Dr. check
>you out and have lab tests done. It seems only Ms. Clark can SEE these
>invisible parasites.

WRONG WRONG WRONG! I HAVE USED THE ZAPPER, TAKEN HER PRODUCTS FOR PARASITES. IT
WORKS! I HAVE PASSED MANY, I ALSO HAVE DONE THE KIDNEY AND LIVER CLEANSE--THEY
WORK ALSO. I WAS VERY ILL AND I AM MUCH BETTER. DON'T MAKE STATEMENTS UNTIL YOU
HAVE TRIED IT!!!

Mark Probert

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On Jul 17, 11:37 pm, Jan Drew <drewja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 15, 11:34 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 15, 11:15 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > > "Mark Probert" <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:9f2f9949-4217-454e...@p36g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > BTW, now that I have your attention, do explain why you post about my
> > > > family. What is your purpose?
>
> > > You posted about your family and the link that showed your two sons.
> > > Then, you lied and posted you had no children.
>
> > No, dipwad, I never claimed I had no children. You snipped what I
> > wrote:
>
> > Post one link to a post from me, not someone who you fantasize is me,
> > to prove that. You cannot. I am proud of my children and would never
> > deny them.
>
> > > > Also, when will you acknowledge that you lied about my age?
>
> > > I did not lie about your age. You posted your birthday.
>
> > You lied because I told you my age, and you insisted I was older, even
> > though I posted incontrovertible proof.
>
> > You lied.
>
> > > > Please respond using your own words, not a cut and paste job!
>
> > > I just did again.
>
> > But ignored and snipped much of what I wrote.
>
> > Coward.

Here is what I said:

'> > Post one link to a post from me, not someone who you fantasize is


me,
> > to prove that. You cannot. I am proud of my children and would never
> > deny them."

I was quite specific, do not use something written by someone you
fantasize is me. I am not this X person, and have never been this x
person.Only Ms. Rosenthal and you think that, and is it a fantasy.

Now come back with some real proof. Not this imaginary bullshit.

And, BTW, Ms. Rosenthal acknowledged she was wrong (note that I did
not call her a liar, as you would have if it were me) when she thought
I was Will Ketcher. Is is not more likely than not that her same
method of erroneously identifying me as Will Ketcher also reached the
incorrect conclusion that I am X.

Also, note that I do not tolerate bigotry, such as yours, and the
bigotry of the AlX, who is mocking one ethnic group.

> Organization: AOLhttp://www.aol.com

Mark Probert

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Your cut and paste is not responsive to my comments and has the sole
purpose to deny me quiet enjoyment of posting to Usenet.

Jan Drew

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> > References: <heatscan-3101011025210...@pm1-35.kalama.com> <3A8571CF.
> purpose to deny me quiet enjoyment of posting to Usenet.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Well, then--feel free to leave.

Mark Probert

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It is common knowledge that you want to deny me the quiet enjoyment of
posting to Usenet.

I am not easily intimidated.

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