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This group has become VERY disappointing... Lay off Dr. Chung

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George

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Jun 2, 2002, 3:58:35 PM6/2/02
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There used to be some interesting threads related to cardiovascular
issues here in this group.

It has deteriorated into a pissing contest between Dr. Chung and
several others.

Here are some opinions from someone who has been lurking but never
posted here before:

I think it is terrific that lay people have online access to a real
cardiologist. Try calling your cardiologist and getting answers to
specific questions any time you want. Good luck!!!

Plus many people do not even have a cardiologist.

Why attack the man? What has he done to deserve being flamed like
this? He has provided detailed documentation about who he is, what
his credentials are, and what he believes in. If you do not agree
with specific things he recommends that's one thing, but to personally
attack him is silly.

Why does Dr. Chung respond to each and every stupid flame and attack?
My advice to the doctor would be to totally ignore anything other that
patient requests for information about medical conditions.

The argument that more ethical doctors would never participate in this
type of group is nonsense. Most don't have the time or the interest.
Those that do should be encouraged not discouraged.

From what I have seen Dr. Chung only provides general advice and when
appropriate tells people to see a doctor face to face for a proper
consultation.

I have never read what is the 2 pound diet.

Dr. Chung is not trying to sell anything. That in itself, to me,
indicates his integrity.

Keep up the good work and ignore the idiots.

Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jun 2, 2002, 4:25:23 PM6/2/02
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George wrote:

Thank you for your support (bow).

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Atlanta Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com


H.W. Stockman

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Jun 2, 2002, 5:35:57 PM6/2/02
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"George" <geo...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> There used to be some interesting threads related to cardiovascular
> issues here in this group.
>
> It has deteriorated into a pissing contest between Dr. Chung and
> several others.


Register one more vote for: continuing to keep the posts consistent with
cardiology.

I'm not an unbiased supporter of anyone or any one diet. But I will say this
about the "two pound diet": it is simple enough for the average Joe to follow.
Yes, there are exceptional cases -- the person who wants to eat 2 lbs of
chocolate, for example. But a goal seems to be: make people THINK about how
much they are eating, by giving them something to quantify. The average US
dietician table -- "250 calories per cup" -- just gives the average person too
many ways to cheat, and if you start to talk to people about grams of protein
etc., you will lose your audience very quickly. Perhaps the biggest problem
doctors face, is simple non-compliance. And, I know people who are very good
about knowing how many calories there are per cookie they consume -- they are
just very bad at keeping count.

Larry Edelstein

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Jun 2, 2002, 7:25:50 PM6/2/02
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I absolutely agree. Dr. Chung has been helpful to me on more than one
occasion, and he should be applauded for wanting to take the time to
participate in an internet newsgroup.

Larry Edelstein

Michael Roose

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Jun 2, 2002, 8:05:46 PM6/2/02
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On Sun, 02 Jun 2002 21:35:57 GMT, "H.W. Stockman"
<stoc...@earthlink.net> wrote:

|Register one more vote for: continuing to keep the posts consistent with
|cardiology.

Stock, quit attempting to play Usenet Policeman. There is a time and
a place for all debate.

Outlook has an "Ignore Thread" and a killfile.

I am an admirer of yours, btw and appreciate your input.


H.W. Stockman

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Jun 2, 2002, 8:07:38 PM6/2/02
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"Michael Roose" <somewhatus...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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H.W. Stockman

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Jun 2, 2002, 8:17:03 PM6/2/02
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"Michael Roose" <somewhatus...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Outlook has an "Ignore Thread" and a killfile.

Even if I take the time to use those options, the average reader does not, else
the threads would die out; and the threads may serve as a distraction from
meaningful posts.

I don't visit this forum that often; but when I do, I have to sort through a lot
of threads, most new since I last visited, most low on signal-to-noise. Some
"good" threads (good in terms of carrying a larger than average signal-to-noise)
contain a large fraction of "oh yeah? sez who?!" posts that are pretty
distracting.


Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jun 2, 2002, 9:18:51 PM6/2/02
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Larry Edelstein wrote:

> I absolutely agree. Dr. Chung has been helpful to me on more than one
> occasion, and he should be applauded for wanting to take the time to
> participate in an internet newsgroup.
>
> Larry Edelstein

And I appreciate your support (deep bow).

Tiger Lily

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Jun 2, 2002, 10:00:53 PM6/2/02
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George... there does exist an A. D. Chung in the medical records., but not
A. B. Chung in ANY records in the AMA directory

i have paroxysmal supraventricular tachychardia and diabetes

i wish this man was for real...... but go look at the crap this man has
posted on a.s.d.


i have 2 words for him ......... FUCK OFF DR CHUNG...... ok 4 words

you can google to see how many times i have said that in over 4 yrs of
newsgroup usage

i would be VERY wary of DR CHUNG'S advice......... may i suggest that a
psychophrenic is posting and imposing as a cardiologist here

notice no comments on what makes a heart smart diet...... just this stupid 2
lb limit......... heck, you can eat 2 lbs of broccoli and be well under
normal caloric intake

i shouldn't feed the troll..... but i've had it....... over 200 posts per
day for 4 days from our dear Chung.......may he live in hell forever!

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Tiger Lily

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Jun 2, 2002, 10:03:00 PM6/2/02
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oh, dear........ H>W> want to see what Michael Roose, dual personality has
posted to a.s.d........... i can take a couple of hours and enlighten you!

"H.W. Stockman" <stoc...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jun 2, 2002, 10:21:06 PM6/2/02
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Tiger Lily wrote:

> George... there does exist an A. D. Chung in the medical records., but not
> A. B. Chung in ANY records in the AMA directory
>

Try looking in the state of Georgia. That's where Atlanta is, last I checked.

Tiger Lily

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Jun 2, 2002, 10:55:22 PM6/2/02
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show me the URL for Dr B Chung..... then i will believe you

or are you an imposter making Andrew D Chungs life miserable

you can call me stupid all you want.... i just want proof of Andrew B Chung

oh.... and i cross posted back to your hero's group

kate

"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
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> Tiger Lily wrote:
>
> > George... there does exist an A. D. Chung in the medical records., but
not
> > A. B. Chung in ANY records in the AMA directory
>

> You are in error.
>
> Don't you just hate it when you find yourself on the wrong side of a flame
war?
>
> Whoosh! ---------> Thump!
>
> Your smoldering carcass has just been catapulted back to the ASD mud pile.
Be
> sure to come back if you want more.

Tiger Lily

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Jun 2, 2002, 10:56:19 PM6/2/02
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this enlightened post from Andrew Chung..... B or D still remains to be seen

"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message

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> Tiger Lily wrote:
>
> > oh, dear........ H>W> want to see what Michael Roose, dual personality
has
> > posted to a.s.d........... i can take a couple of hours and enlighten
you!
>

> I warned you ... sorry


>
> Don't you just hate it when you find yourself on the wrong side of a flame
war?
>
> Whoosh! ---------> Thump!
>
> Your smoldering carcass has just been catapulted back to the ASD mud pile

> again. Be sure to come back if you want more.

Tiger Lily

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Jun 2, 2002, 11:09:44 PM6/2/02
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for those that care.... i have PSVT..... have been diabetic for 15 yrs,
complication free.... touch wood

and i have never needed the assistance of dear Dr Chung's 2 lb diet that
the world must revolve around........ i bet my 3,000 calorie a day diet with
a 5 mile walk every night pisses him off no end

i LOVE........... NOT his manner on alt.support.diabetes where most
diabetics are learning to eat low carb veggies rather than potatoes and rice
for their mainstay

bp down to 125/85........ pulse still high at 95....... hoping for
better..... doubt reducing food will work while i weigh 125 lbs


oh.... great reply, Dr Chung..... may i call you asshole instead, ...... do
a google search on how many people i have called that

> "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> news:3CFAD32C...@heartmdphd.com...

Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jun 3, 2002, 12:39:42 AM6/3/02
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Tiger Lily wrote:

> show me the URL for Dr B Chung..... then i will believe you

Try looking in the state of Georgia.

--

R.K.

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Jun 3, 2002, 12:48:03 AM6/3/02
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yeah how about this then, we stop distracting you people
when the quack and his multiple personality roose leave
the poor diabetics alone!


"H.W. Stockman" <stoc...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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:
: "Michael Roose" <somewhatus...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

:
:


R.K.

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Jun 3, 2002, 12:48:43 AM6/3/02
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he should be applauded for jacking off?

damn what a concept.. too bad I can't.. then maybe i'll be a quack too!..
LOL

"Larry Edelstein" <lse...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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: I absolutely agree. Dr. Chung has been helpful to me on more than one

:


Tiger Lily

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Jun 3, 2002, 1:02:18 AM6/3/02
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state of Georgia lists Andrew D Chung NOT andrew B chung

come out of the woodwork, you worm!


i'll be happy to talk to you there too

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Tiger Lily

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Jun 3, 2002, 1:06:40 AM6/3/02
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"> "Larry Edelstein" <lse...@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:3CFAA957...@optonline.net...
> : I absolutely agree. Dr. Chung has been helpful to me on more than one
> : occasion, and he should be applauded for wanting to take the time to
> : participate in an internet newsgroup.

please look up what Dr you are supporting.......... Andrew B Chung or Andrew
D Chung

pretty easy to miss the middle initial

actually, a troll here who supports Andrew B Chung coincidencetally has the
same ISP as the DR you are supporting

i feel sorry for Andrew B Chung, who is a REAL cardiologily specialist......
IF he isn't supporting this trolling

a search on www.google.com will confirm what i say along with a search of
the ADA website

Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jun 3, 2002, 1:30:36 AM6/3/02
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Tiger Lily wrote:

> state of Georgia lists Andrew D Chung NOT andrew B chung
>
> come out of the woodwork, you worm!
>
> i'll be happy to talk to you there too

Just checked it. You remain in error.

R.K.

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Jun 3, 2002, 1:20:06 AM6/3/02
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What a fucking moron!

DON'T POST BACK TO ASD, KEEP YOUR SHIT ON SMC.

"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message

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: "R.K." wrote:
:
: > he should be applauded for jacking off?


: >
: > damn what a concept.. too bad I can't.. then maybe i'll be a quack
too!..
: > LOL

:
: Don't you just hate it when you find yourself on the wrong side of a flame


: war?
:
: Whoosh! ---------> Thump!
:
: Your smoldering carcass has just been catapulted back to the ASD mud pile
: again. Be sure to come back if you want more.

:
:
: --

:
:


R.K.

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Jun 3, 2002, 1:20:25 AM6/3/02
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What a fucking moron!

DON'T POST BACK TO ASD, KEEP YOUR SHIT ON SMC.

"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message

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: Tiger Lily wrote:
:
: > please look up what Dr you are supporting.......... Andrew B Chung or


Andrew
: > D Chung
: >
: > pretty easy to miss the middle initial
: >
: > actually, a troll here who supports Andrew B Chung coincidencetally has
the
: > same ISP as the DR you are supporting
: >
: > i feel sorry for Andrew B Chung, who is a REAL cardiologily
specialist......
: > IF he isn't supporting this trolling

R.K.

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Jun 3, 2002, 1:26:08 AM6/3/02
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We can keep this up all night if you'd like, your call
your the one looking like a ass

What a moron!


DON'T POST BACK TO ASD, KEEP YOUR SHIT ON SMC.

"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message

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: "R.K." wrote:
:
: > What a fucking moron!


: >
: > DON'T POST BACK TO ASD, KEEP YOUR SHIT ON SMC.

Tiger Lily

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Jun 3, 2002, 1:40:02 AM6/3/02
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http://www.ama.org/index.php?
&Session_ID=c945648b1bfb4d73e8420c0611ee797c

Found 0 result(s) for: Andrew B Chung.


tell me where you can be found then ! ! !

yor aren't recoginsed by the AMA ! ! ! .... interesting

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Tiger Lily

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Jun 3, 2002, 2:18:49 AM6/3/02
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and your answer is????
B or D....... asshole..... are you impinging on the good reputation of
another Dr or do you have a real life???

somehow i think you are psychotic

whatever

"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message

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> Tiger Lily wrote:
>
> > this enlightened post from Andrew Chung..... B or D still remains to be
seen
> >
>

> Glad you are enlightened. Another glutton for punishment.

Tiger Lily

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Jun 3, 2002, 2:21:00 AM6/3/02
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aren't you such a nice man
here's for another round........... are you Andrew B or Andrew D Chung and
from whence do you hail??

oops...... where are you from..... sorry..... english isn't your first
language, right??

"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message

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> Tiger Lily wrote:
>
> > for those that care.... i have PSVT..... have been diabetic for 15 yrs,
> > complication free.... touch wood
>

> Here's some wood.


>
> Whoosh! ---------> Thump!
>
> Your smoldering carcass has just been catapulted back to the ASD mud pile
> again. Be sure to come back if you want more.
>

> --


> Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

> Atlanta Cardiologist
> http://www.heartmdphd.com
>
>


Tiger Lily

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Jun 3, 2002, 2:21:57 AM6/3/02
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this man has limited language abilities doesn't he???

"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message

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> "R.K." wrote:
>
> > yeah how about this then, we stop distracting you people
> > when the quack and his multiple personality roose leave
> > the poor diabetics alone!
>

> Don't you just hate it when you find yourself on the wrong side of a flame
war?
>

Tiger Lily

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Jun 3, 2002, 2:23:00 AM6/3/02
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and he's a hero on the cardiology board...... go figure! ! ! !

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Tiger Lily

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Jun 3, 2002, 2:23:52 AM6/3/02
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don't you hate his repetativeness

what ever

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Tiger Lily

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Jun 3, 2002, 2:25:29 AM6/3/02
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notice.... he can't answer the questioned asked of him...... he must be
someone trying to discredit a real dr or he would have an HONEST answer

whatever

"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message

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> Tiger Lily wrote:
>
> > please look up what Dr you are supporting.......... Andrew B Chung or
Andrew
> > D Chung
> >
> > pretty easy to miss the middle initial
> >
> > actually, a troll here who supports Andrew B Chung coincidencetally has
the
> > same ISP as the DR you are supporting
> >
> > i feel sorry for Andrew B Chung, who is a REAL cardiologily
specialist......
> > IF he isn't supporting this trolling
>

Tiger Lily

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Jun 3, 2002, 2:26:41 AM6/3/02
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this is getting tiring
but i have no day job...... do YOU????

keep on

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R.K.

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Jun 3, 2002, 2:39:37 AM6/3/02
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lol yeah he seems to, can't say nothing nice about anyone
and keeps repeating himself like a broken record..


"Tiger Lily" <Tige...@nospam.alt-support-diabetes.org> wrote in message
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: this man has limited language abilities doesn't he???

: >
: >
:
:


Tiger Lily

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Jun 5, 2002, 7:48:39 PM6/5/02
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LOL..... Open on Thursday for 5 hours each week

busy practice Dr Chung has! LOL

thanks, JK

"JK" <> wrote in message ...

I found him!!!!

http://www.ama-assn.org/iwcf/iwcfmgr206/SESSION_ID=331576/SESSION_AR=31/frm_
name=aps_result?action_detail.x=hello&row=0&mem=N&key=0&amap=N&form_type=r


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