Re: Chest Exercises - Reduce Breast Fat
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Fat is lost by eating less and not by exercise:
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthy
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
coffeer wrote:
> Chest Exercises - Reduce Breast Fat
>
> Hey,
>
> I'm about 5'10'' 185 lbs, I've been working out for the past 2 weeks
> to lose some body fat, and have been seeing great progress -
> especially in my arms and stomach. However, one of the things that
> seems to give me a lot of trouble in dealing with is my chest area.
>
> At first I thought maybe I had Gynecomastia (spelling?) but I went and
> talked to my doctor and said that I just needed to lose some weight
> and the fat under the nipples would diminish pretty quickly. I didn't
> expect to see major results in 2 weeks, but I've been wondering what I
> could do to target that area when it comes to exercises.
>
> I go to the gym every other day (Monday/Wednesday/Friday) and just use
> my bench at home on the weekends. I'm not to knowledgeable about the
> names of the exercises I do, I just go through the circuit of machines
> at the gym. But I'd say 75% of what I do focuses on my stomach & arms,
> specifically the biceps.
>
> I'm just looking for an exercise or something that I can look for at
> the gym and possibly even do at home that will target and eliminate
> body fat in the chest region, if anyone knows, that would be awesome.
>
> http://www.yonghenggzs.cn/forum/index.php?topic=66.0
tr...@is-best.com
"Spot reduction of fat with targeted exercise is a myth.
Fat is lost by eating less and not by exercise:"
Only half true, spot exercise does not work any better for belly fat,ie.
vat, but total level of exercise selectively reduces it.
When calorie restriction, eating less aka dieting, is added there is an
additive lossof vat and total body fat.
The original poster noted loss of belly fat when an exercise program was
started.
This is not news for our guru, the research has been presented him
before. But in the face of fixed ideation, research refuting such ideas
sadly has no effect as it is the routine case in real science.
God bless.
Zen Cohen
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heart...@emorycardiology.com> wrote in message
....
> Fat is lost by eating less and not by exercise
It's a shame that an MD would post misinformation like this. I lost about 60
lbs in a year, mainly by intense exercise. I ate healthy foods but my
caloric intake was still about 2500/day -- and I consumed far more than two
lbs/day. Waist is approx 10" less and my WHR is under .85. I did weight
training as part of my program, and as a result I have more lean-body mass
than when I was at my peak weight. And many many people do this or better
through a vigorous exercise program.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:.
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9801bd054f381a68?
>
> It's a shame that an MD would post misinformation like this.
There is no shame in the truth, which is not misinformation.
> I lost about 60 lbs in a year, mainly by intense exercise.
If you had continued to overeat, no amount of exercise would have
resulted in 60 lbs weight loss in a year, while improving health.
Otoh, if you had not exercised, eating less, down to the optimal
amount, would have sufficed for losing weight, while improving health:
Bottom line:
Eating less, down to the optimal amount, is both necessary and
sufficient for achieving healthy weight loss.
This is in keeping with the first law of thermodynamics.
Zen Cohen
> convicted neighbor Zen Cohen wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:.
>>
>> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9801bd054f381a68?
>>
>> It's a shame that an MD would post misinformation like this.
>
> There is no shame in the truth, which is not misinformation.
>
>> I lost about 60 lbs in a year, mainly by intense exercise.
>
> If you had continued to overeat, no amount of exercise would have
> resulted in 60 lbs weight loss in a year, while improving health.
According to your 2-lb 'approach' I easily ate double what I was supposed
to.
>
> Otoh, if you had not exercised, eating less, down to the optimal
> amount, would have sufficed for losing weight, while improving health:
If I had not exercised and simply eaten 2 lbs of whatever a day, I would
have lost significant muscle mass and not been nearly as fit as I am today.
>
> Bottom line:
Chung is untruthful. Further, he has squandered a wonderful education and
opportunity to do good in the world; instead he persists in providing
harmful misinformation based on bizarre interpretations of a fairy tale to
unsuspecting persons. Sad.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Zen Cohen wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:.
> >>
> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9801bd054f381a68?
> >>
> >> It's a shame that an MD would post misinformation like this.
> >
> > There is no shame in the truth, which is not misinformation.
> >
> >> I lost about 60 lbs in a year, mainly by intense exercise.
> >
> > If you had continued to overeat, no amount of exercise would have
> > resulted in 60 lbs weight loss in a year, while improving health.
>
> According to your 2-lb 'approach' I easily ate double what I was supposed
> to.
Folks eating more than 4 lbs of food per day have too much blood
shunted to their GI tracts to safely engage in intense exercise.
> > Otoh, if you had not exercised, eating less, down to the optimal
> > amount, would have sufficed for losing weight, while improving health:
>
> If I had not exercised and simply eaten 2 lbs of whatever a day, I would
> have lost significant muscle mass and not been nearly as fit as I am today.
Ordinary activities of daily living is sufficient to maintain muscle
mass when eating less, down to the optimal amount of a regular diet.
May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to pray for you:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/ZenCohen
Cary Kittrell
> convicted neighbor Zen Cohen wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted neighbor Zen Cohen wrote:
> > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:.
> > >>
> > >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9801bd054f381a68?
> > >>
> > >> It's a shame that an MD would post misinformation like this.
> > >
> > > There is no shame in the truth, which is not misinformation.
> > >
> > >> I lost about 60 lbs in a year, mainly by intense exercise.
> > >
> > > If you had continued to overeat, no amount of exercise would have
> > > resulted in 60 lbs weight loss in a year, while improving health.
> >
> > According to your 2-lb 'approach' I easily ate double what I was supposed
> > to.
>
> Folks eating more than 4 lbs of food per day have too much blood
> shunted to their GI tracts to safely engage in intense exercise.
Cite for a study which supports this contention:
>
> > > Otoh, if you had not exercised, eating less, down to the optimal
> > > amount, would have sufficed for losing weight, while improving health:
> >
> > If I had not exercised and simply eaten 2 lbs of whatever a day, I would
> > have lost significant muscle mass and not been nearly as fit as I am today.
>
> Ordinary activities of daily living is sufficient to maintain muscle
> mass when eating less, down to the optimal amount of a regular diet.
Cite for a study which supports this contention:
-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Zen Cohen wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > convicted neighbor Zen Cohen wrote:
> > > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:.
> > > >>
> > > >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9801bd054f381a68?
> > > >>
> > > >> It's a shame that an MD would post misinformation like this.
> > > >
> > > > There is no shame in the truth, which is not misinformation.
> > > >
> > > >> I lost about 60 lbs in a year, mainly by intense exercise.
> > > >
> > > > If you had continued to overeat, no amount of exercise would have
> > > > resulted in 60 lbs weight loss in a year, while improving health.
> > >
> > > According to your 2-lb 'approach' I easily ate double what I was supposed
> > > to.
> >
> > Folks eating more than 4 lbs of food per day have too much blood
> > shunted to their GI tracts to safely engage in intense exercise.
>
> Cite for a study which supports this contention:
Not contention but the everyday clinical experience of cardiologists,
who are trained to safely perform exercise stress testing on their
patients.
> > > > Otoh, if you had not exercised, eating less, down to the optimal
> > > > amount, would have sufficed for losing weight, while improving health:
> > >
> > > If I had not exercised and simply eaten 2 lbs of whatever a day, I would
> > > have lost significant muscle mass and not been nearly as fit as I am today.
> >
> > Ordinary activities of daily living is sufficient to maintain muscle
> > mass when eating less, down to the optimal amount of a regular diet.
>
> Cite for a study which supports this contention:
Not contention but the everyday clinical experience of physicians who
have cared for the elderly.
May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to pray for you:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CaryKittrell
Cary Kittrell
> convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted neighbor Zen Cohen wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > convicted neighbor Zen Cohen wrote:
> > > > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9801bd054f381a68?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> It's a shame that an MD would post misinformation like this.
> > > > >
> > > > > There is no shame in the truth, which is not misinformation.
> > > > >
> > > > >> I lost about 60 lbs in a year, mainly by intense exercise.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you had continued to overeat, no amount of exercise would have
> > > > > resulted in 60 lbs weight loss in a year, while improving health.
> > > >
> > > > According to your 2-lb 'approach' I easily ate double what I was supposed
> > > > to.
> > >
> > > Folks eating more than 4 lbs of food per day have too much blood
> > > shunted to their GI tracts to safely engage in intense exercise.
> >
> > Cite for a study which supports this contention:
>
> Not contention but the everyday clinical experience of cardiologists,
> who are trained to safely perform exercise stress testing on their
> patients.
Funny, I've never had a cardiologist ask me how many pounds of
food a day I eat before performing a stess test.
Why do you think this is?
Let's take a survey, shall we: has anyone else reading this
had their cardiologist inquire as to how many pounds of
food a day they eat? After all, this is the "everyday clinical
experience of cardiologists", so surely many of you out there
have been asked about it.
Hands? Class? Anyone?
-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > convicted neighbor Zen Cohen wrote:
> > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > convicted neighbor Zen Cohen wrote:
> > > > > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9801bd054f381a68?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> It's a shame that an MD would post misinformation like this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is no shame in the truth, which is not misinformation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> I lost about 60 lbs in a year, mainly by intense exercise.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you had continued to overeat, no amount of exercise would have
> > > > > > resulted in 60 lbs weight loss in a year, while improving health.
> > > > >
> > > > > According to your 2-lb 'approach' I easily ate double what I was supposed
> > > > > to.
> > > >
> > > > Folks eating more than 4 lbs of food per day have too much blood
> > > > shunted to their GI tracts to safely engage in intense exercise.
> > >
> > > Cite for a study which supports this contention:
> >
> > Not contention but the everyday clinical experience of cardiologists,
> > who are trained to safely perform exercise stress testing on their
> > patients.
>
> Funny, I've never had a cardiologist ask me how many pounds of
> food a day I eat before performing a stess test.
Instead, we advise that folks fast before performing a stress test.
> Why do you think this is?
"Folks eating more than 4 lbs of food per day have too much blood
shunted to their GI tracts to safely engage in intense exercise."
You do not have much longer, dear Cary:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Prophecy
Cary Kittrell
At, the nostalgia...it's been so long since you last
told me I did not have much longer...
-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Just as to Bob, it seems like just yesterday...
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Prophecy
... so it will seem to you if you do not wisely choose to surrender by
publicly declaring with your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to pray for your troubled
soul:
J666
Fat is lost by eating less and not by exercise:
---------
Yup, sit on a couch and think about asparagus and crab, as you said in
a previous thread, to main your hunger
This is the new Chung Asparagus Crab Approach - abbreviated CACA
Ferd Farkel
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> Spot reduction of fat with targeted exercise is a myth.
>
> Fat is lost by eating less and not by exercise:
Funny that in less than six months, I went from 190 to
155 lbs from biking an easy 100 miles / week. Funnier
still that my calorie intake actually increased during
that time -- as did my strength, endurance, mood, and
college GPA.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > Spot reduction of fat with targeted exercise is a myth.
> >
> > Fat is lost by eating less and not by exercise:
>
> Funny that in less than six months, I went from 190 to
> 155 lbs from biking an easy 100 miles / week. Funnier
> still that my calorie intake actually increased during
> that time -- as did my strength, endurance, mood, and
> college GPA.
There are scant few folks who possess a bomb calorimeter plus the
economic resources of having all their meals prepared in duplicate so
that one set can be incinerated to measure calories in order to make
the claim you have made about your calorie intake and be truthful at
the same time.
May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to pray for your endangered
soul:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Ferd
J666
Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
"There are scant few folks who possess a bomb calorimeter plus the
economic resources of having all their meals prepared in duplicate so
that one set can be incinerated to measure calories in order to make
the claim you have made about your calorie intake and be truthful at
the same time."
Very easy to go on line or look on labels for calories like everyone
does on weight loss diets based on calories. There is no need to "re-
invent" the wheel.
Andrew has been convicted because he has thrown away God's gift of
knowing how to do the scientific method needed to get an MD and a PhD.
tr...@is-best.com
> Funny that in less than six months, I went from 190 to
> 155 lbs from biking an easy 100 miles / week. Funnier
> still that my calorie intake actually increased during
> that time -- as did my strength, endurance, mood, and
> college GPA.
"There are scant few folks who possess a bomb calorimeter plus the
economic resources of having all their meals prepared in duplicate so
that one set can be incinerated to measure calories in order to make the
claim you have made about your calorie intake and be truthful at the
same time."
During this season decompensation increases typically and lateral
lurches of logic and distortions of common sense also increase to
support fixed ideation.
God bless and heal.
Cary Kittrell
Ah, but all you have is actual facts.
And what are facts when up against The Truth [tm]?
-- cary (who's lost 18 pounds this month)
Cary Kittrell
> convicted neighbor Ferd Farkel wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > Spot reduction of fat with targeted exercise is a myth.
> > >
> > > Fat is lost by eating less and not by exercise:
> >
> > Funny that in less than six months, I went from 190 to
> > 155 lbs from biking an easy 100 miles / week. Funnier
> > still that my calorie intake actually increased during
> > that time -- as did my strength, endurance, mood, and
> > college GPA.
>
> There are scant few folks who possess a bomb calorimeter plus the
> economic resources of having all their meals prepared in duplicate so
> that one set can be incinerated to measure calories in order to make
> the claim you have made about your calorie intake and be truthful at
> the same time.
Andrew doubtless thinks that the octane ratings at the gas
pump are useless unless since they don't test the
gas that actually goes into your tank.
Or for that matter, that the entire field of quality control
in worthless -- after all, the toy soldier you give your kid
might be well drenched in lead,even its mate from the
same batch tested out below the detectable limit
of the AA spectrometer.
And if a four ounce Granny Smith apple has 70 calories --
well, who knows that the next one won't have 6,000. Or none.
Truth is simplified -- after Andrew gets finished torturing
it into submission.
-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Ferd Farkel wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >
> > > > Spot reduction of fat with targeted exercise is a myth.
> > > >
> > > > Fat is lost by eating less and not by exercise:
> > >
> > > Funny that in less than six months, I went from 190 to
> > > 155 lbs from biking an easy 100 miles / week. Funnier
> > > still that my calorie intake actually increased during
> > > that time -- as did my strength, endurance, mood, and
> > > college GPA.
> >
> > There are scant few folks who possess a bomb calorimeter plus the
> > economic resources of having all their meals prepared in duplicate so
> > that one set can be incinerated to measure calories in order to make
> > the claim you have made about your calorie intake and be truthful at
> > the same time.
>
> Andrew doubtless thinks that the octane ratings at the gas
> pump are useless
Actually, they are as useless a measure of amount of gasoline as
calories is a useless measure of amount of food.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for his compelling
you to unwittingly provide this illustrative example.
May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to pray for your deeply
troubled soul:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CaryKittrell
Cary Kittrell
> convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted neighbor Ferd Farkel wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Spot reduction of fat with targeted exercise is a myth.
> > > > >
> > > > > Fat is lost by eating less and not by exercise:
> > > >
> > > > Funny that in less than six months, I went from 190 to
> > > > 155 lbs from biking an easy 100 miles / week. Funnier
> > > > still that my calorie intake actually increased during
> > > > that time -- as did my strength, endurance, mood, and
> > > > college GPA.
> > >
> > > There are scant few folks who possess a bomb calorimeter plus the
> > > economic resources of having all their meals prepared in duplicate so
> > > that one set can be incinerated to measure calories in order to make
> > > the claim you have made about your calorie intake and be truthful at
> > > the same time.
> >
> > Andrew doubtless thinks that the octane ratings at the gas
> > pump are useless
>
> Actually, they are as useless a measure of amount of gasoline as
> calories is a useless measure of amount of food.
Which is all neat and tidy, since a measure of the amount of
food is itself useless for our purposes.
What is useful for our purposes were the scales which provided
encourgemaent to our Fard as he lost that 35 pounds.
-- cary
CindyB
> Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
For years, I would tell people, "Don't put old gas in my car, I want
the newer stuff"...turns out the numbers on the pump were not
indicators of the year the gas was made. Gawd...it is a wonder I can
tie my own shoes. hehe Plus, to the doctor guy on here, if you sit
around doing nothing, it would be very hard to lose weight. If you
work out, you burn off the fat. You do not burn off fat by clicking a
remote and lifting a beer and eating less; this does not constitute
exercise and as you may shrink your stomach a little bit, it won't
shrink any other part of you; well, maybe your brain, but that does
not count. Maybe you have been doing a bit too much of the non-
exercise? Maybe? You have to burn calories to lose weight-you have to
burn more than you put in. Sorry doctor guy on here. Silly boy.
Geeze, even I know that one. Gosh!
Cindy
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > convicted neighbor Ferd Farkel wrote:
> > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Spot reduction of fat with targeted exercise is a myth.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Fat is lost by eating less and not by exercise:
> > > > >
> > > > > Funny that in less than six months, I went from 190 to
> > > > > 155 lbs from biking an easy 100 miles / week. Funnier
> > > > > still that my calorie intake actually increased during
> > > > > that time -- as did my strength, endurance, mood, and
> > > > > college GPA.
> > > >
> > > > There are scant few folks who possess a bomb calorimeter plus the
> > > > economic resources of having all their meals prepared in duplicate so
> > > > that one set can be incinerated to measure calories in order to make
> > > > the claim you have made about your calorie intake and be truthful at
> > > > the same time.
> > >
> > > Andrew doubtless thinks that the octane ratings at the gas
> > > pump are useless
> >
> > Actually, they are as useless a measure of amount of gasoline as
> > calories is a useless measure of amount of food.
>
> Which is all neat and tidy, since a measure of the amount of
> food is itself useless for our purposes.
Not for the discerning who are pondering the topic at hand.
Still praying for you:
J666
"Not for the discerning who are pondering the topic at hand."
Most doctors/scientists prefer thinking rather than discerning.
Andrew was convicted some time ago for turning his back on God's gift
to Andrew - the ability to think to get an MD and a PhD and since he
threw away this gift from God, he has been convicted.
Marilyn Mann
segregated) gym class while chanting "We must, we must, we must, we
must improve our busts. For fear, for fear, for fear, we'll lose our
brassieres."
Terrible, isn't it, but that's 13-year-old girls for you.
Marilyn
yama...@aol.com
Marilyn, didn't it go, "The bigger the better the better the sweater,
we must we must we must!?"
Cary Kittrell
Ah, the days of the miracle "spot-reduction" exercises...
Do they still pitch that these days?
-- cary
Marilyn Mann
>
>> Marilyn, didn't it go, "The bigger the better the better the sweater,
> we must we must we must!?"
There may be more than one version. Some versions have "the bigger
the better the better the sweater, the boys will come to us." Or
something.
Marilyn
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> the newer stuff"...turns out the numbers on the pump were not
> indicators of the year the gas was made. Gawd...it is a wonder I can
> tie my own shoes. hehe
The glory belongs to GOD Who made you :-)
> Plus, to the doctor guy on here, if you sit
> around doing nothing, it would be very hard to lose weight.
Actually, there are folks who are unable to do any meaningful
regimented physical exercise.
One notable example is Stephen Hawking.
Thankfully, such physical exercise is not necessary for countering
obesity else Mr. Hawking would now be morbidly obese.
> If you work out, you burn off the fat.
In practice, this does not happen while there is still overeating.
> You do not burn off fat by clicking a
> remote and lifting a beer and eating less; this does not constitute
> exercise and as you may shrink your stomach a little bit, it won't
> shrink any other part of you; well, maybe your brain, but that does
> not count.
It is only when the stomach is making audible sounds that the bad
"inside" fat (visceral adipose tissue or VAT) that causes type-2
diabetes is being burned away.
It is the exercise that our stomachs do when we are healthier
(hungrier) and not the exercise we do with our muscles in the gym that
burns away the VAT.
> Maybe you have been doing a bit too much of the non-
> exercise?
The Holy Spirit guided me to do 120 consecutive push-ups this morning
upon awakening and so HE made me hungrier.
> Maybe?
Definitely 10 times hungrier --> 10 times stronger physically,
mentally, and spiritually.
> You have to burn calories to lose weight-you have to
> burn more than you put in.
To become healthier (hungrier), you must eat less, down to the optimal
amount:
> Sorry doctor guy on here.
No need to apologize. You have been forgiven by me.
> Silly boy.
No.
Strong man:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/StrongMan
> Geeze, even I know that one.
Jesus is the One:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/JesusChrist
> Gosh!
GOD too :-)
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
> Cindy
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthy
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
William Wagner
<fdcb09b6-49e4-4496...@b40g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Marilyn Mann <ma...@comcast.net> wrote:
Genius controls the state board of eduction. Ours were basic
military warm ups and we even climbed 50 foot ropes and had communal
showers. The object was to make us hard with no idea about the power of
being soft and yielding.
Think a large amount of energy is coming at you what to do? Get out of
the way Duh.
Bill
--
S Jersey USA Zone 5 Shade
http://www.ocutech.com/ High tech Vison aid
J666
Marilyn - if you did not chant were you busted?
J666
"No need to apologize. You have been forgiven by me."
Andrew - Since you have been convicted, your forgiveness carries no
weight at all.
Marilyn Mann
>
> Marilyn - if you did not chant were you busted?
Ha ha.
J666
"It is the exercise that our stomachs do when we are healthier
(hungrier) and not the exercise we do with our muscles in the gym that
burns away the VAT. "
So borborigmi are needed - So it is the Borborigmi Approach Diet,
abbrerviated BAD. So just need to a carry a stethoscope to listen
which is much better than carrying a scale to weigh the food.
We must not forget the Chung Asparagus Crab Approach abbreviated CACA
in which Chung thinks about asparagus and crabs which makes him hungry
so eat all you want, but think of asparagus and crab.
Since we are dealing with "discerning hearts" rather than thinking
brains, do not need any scientific type of proof.
J666
I certainly like to keep abreast of these matters.
I, and others, who care a hoot about this, can be called Hooters.
Marilyn Mann
I'm done with this thread.
Marilyn
Don Kirkman
article
<906f1840-be13-4236...@j44g2000hsj.googlegroups.com>:
>convicted neighbor Ferd Farkel wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > Spot reduction of fat with targeted exercise is a myth.
>> > Fat is lost by eating less and not by exercise:
>> Funny that in less than six months, I went from 190 to
>> 155 lbs from biking an easy 100 miles / week. Funnier
>> still that my calorie intake actually increased during
>> that time -- as did my strength, endurance, mood, and
>> college GPA.
>There are scant few folks who possess a bomb calorimeter plus the
>economic resources of having all their meals prepared in duplicate so
>that one set can be incinerated to measure calories in order to make
>the claim you have made about your calorie intake and be truthful at
>the same time.
There are scant few folks in need of a bomb calorimeter. If you weren't
so hardheaded you could have spared yourself this embarrassment, because
I told you some time ago that approximate calorie counts are perfectly
adequate for daily diet control, and that even the Mallory counts in
cookbooks and on food packages will do the trick. It's odd how you play
fast and loose with scientific evidence and Biblical teachings but
pretend science lab accuracy is necessary to design a practical diet.
>May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to pray for your endangered
>soul:
"Not every one who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of
heaven. . . . And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you.'"
Matthew 7.21-23
--
Don Kirkman
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed:
>
> > Marilyn
> >
> > I certainly like to keep abreast of these matters.
> >
> > I, and others, who care a hoot about this, can be called Hooters.
>
> I'm done with this thread.
>
> Marilyn
It is not the thread.
Would suggest you either ignore satan...
....or rebuke satan in Jesus' name.
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthy
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >convicted neighbor Ferd Farkel wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >> > Spot reduction of fat with targeted exercise is a myth.
>
> >> > Fat is lost by eating less and not by exercise:
>
> >> Funny that in less than six months, I went from 190 to
> >> 155 lbs from biking an easy 100 miles / week. Funnier
> >> still that my calorie intake actually increased during
> >> that time -- as did my strength, endurance, mood, and
> >> college GPA.
>
> >There are scant few folks who possess a bomb calorimeter plus the
> >economic resources of having all their meals prepared in duplicate so
> >that one set can be incinerated to measure calories in order to make
> >the claim you have made about your calorie intake and be truthful at
> >the same time.
>
> There are scant few folks in need of a bomb calorimeter.
Correct because only a food scale is needed to quantify food.
OMER ==> Optimal Mass for Eating Rationing.
Afterall, the energy contained in all matter is solely dependent on
the mass.
E=MC**2
Truth is simple :-)
Suggested additional reading:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
May we, who are the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ, continue to pray
for your endangered soul:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/DonKirkman
Archie Leach
>Correct because only a food scale is needed to quantify food.
>
>OMER ==> Optimal Mass for Eating Rationing.
>
>Afterall, the energy contained in all matter is solely dependent on
>the mass.
>
>E=MC**2
You ignorant, foolish, intellectually and spiritually dishonest
simpleton.
How is it that you earned your PhD and MD again???
E=MC^2 would be relevant to human metabolism only if the human stomach
were, say, a nuclear reactor.
I'm no organic chemist nor am I a biologist, but I know enough to know
that it is caloric energy content and not total nuclear potential
energy which fuels metabolism, and that caloric energy content is not
absolutely and strictly related to simply the mass of the food only.
Cary Kittrell
Now, now, don't try to fight it; The Chung has spoken --
your good old reliable ""The Doctors Pocket Calorie, Fat &
Carbohydrate Counter" will henceforth be required to
add relativistic corrections. For example, a 70-gram
apple which formerly listed in at 100 calories will
now, given the energy implicit in its mass at rest,
be listed as containing
14,946,770,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 calories.
Of coure, since it still weighs only 70 grams, under the
2PD-OMER approach you will be allowed to eat 13 of these
apples a day, for a daily nutritional allowance of
194,308,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 calories.
Even the worst glutton could hardly complain about
restrictions such as that.
-- cary
Pastor Frank
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> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heart...@emorycardiology.com> wrote in
> message
> news:451d85d3-c0d6-429e...@l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>> convicted neighbor Zen Cohen wrote:
>>>
>>> It's a shame that an MD would post misinformation like this.
>>
>> There is no shame in the truth, which is not misinformation.
>>
>>> I lost about 60 lbs in a year, mainly by intense exercise.
>>
>> If you had continued to overeat, no amount of exercise would have
>> resulted in 60 lbs weight loss in a year, while improving health.
>
> According to your 2-lb 'approach' I easily ate double what I was supposed
> to.
>
>> Otoh, if you had not exercised, eating less, down to the optimal
>> amount, would have sufficed for losing weight, while improving health:
>
> If I had not exercised and simply eaten 2 lbs of whatever a day, I would
> have lost significant muscle mass and not been nearly as fit as I am
> today.
> Chung is untruthful. Further, he has squandered a wonderful education and
> opportunity to do good in the world; instead he persists in providing
> harmful misinformation based on bizarre interpretations of a fairy tale to
> unsuspecting persons. Sad.
>
I am sure the "untruthfulness" is all yours, for exercise makes you
hungrier. If you give in to that hunger and eat more, then exercise can only
lead to the obesity and fitness of a Sumo wrestler. Furthermore, the 2
pounds must include what you drink, not just what you eat. Plus Chung only
reiterates the results of well known experiments of rats on a reduced
calorie diet. They live about 1/3 longer than rats on a high calorie diet.
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Art Deco
Note that despite his later lame backpedal attempt, St. Chung clearly
used the words:
"the energy contained in all matter is solely dependent on the mass."
He remains a failure as a scientist. Traveling miracle cure wagon
should have been his choice in life.
--
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Official "Usenet psychopath and born-again LLPOF minion",
as designated by Brad Guth
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