The purported lost tomb of LORD Jesus Christ.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
(1) The specimens were likely further contaminated when gathered using
bare hands from the bottom of limestone containers that had already
been handled by those who had removed the bones and studied the
external markings without wearing sterile gloves and gowns. This
mishandling makes it almost certain that the ossuaries were
contaminated with DNA not belonging to the bones that they once
contained. Carefully handling with gloves and gowns to prevent
contamination in the forensic laboratory is too late when there has
been contamination in the field. This would be a likely reason for
the non-match that was not given any consideration in the
presentation.
(2) Appropriate positive controls were not done (or done but negative
and with this negative information possibly purposely withheld to
deceive). Jesus and Mary(Maria) should have the same mitochondrial
DNA as should Mary (Maria) and Matthew (theorized maternal relative of
Maria) if indeed the speculation is correct.
For the genetic experts out there:
Name one other ossuary besided Magdalene that should also contain
mitochondrial DNA different from Mary (Maria) if this truly were the
tomb of Mary's maternal relatives in the manner that the producers of
the Discovery Channel documentary speculate.
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Molecular Biologist
http://gtalumni.org/Publications/magazine/win91/chung.html
The Mayor of Clueville
wrote:
> The genetic forensic evidence is flawed for two reasons:
>
We know that. And?
Zadok
"Da Chung," <resident idiot> wrote in message ...
> The genetic forensic evidence is flawed for two reasons:
>
> (1) The specimens were likely further contaminated
The logic of an idiot. First the evidence is flawed.
Because, WERE LIKELY -
And you claim their evidence is weak??
(2) Appropriate positive controls were not done (or done but negative
> and with this negative information possibly purposely withheld to
> deceive).
Again, idiot covers all his bases. First the controls were not done, But on
the other hand, if they were done,
POSSIBLY PURPOSELY WITHHELD??
Let's see, the controls were not done, but if they were done,
Has to be religionist logic!!
How can you tell??
The number of times he uses LIKELY, POSSIBLY!!
Smile.
Kurt Gavin
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:1173178781.7...@64g2000cwx.googlegroups.com...
> The genetic forensic evidence is flawed for two reasons:
The whole thing is easily solved.
Just have jebus appear and prove his existence and powers.
charles
wrote:
It should also be noted that chissiling out a rock tomb is a highly
labor-intense task and only the very rich could afford such a luxury!
In no way would a poor carpenter end up in such a rich man's tomb!
The whole story makes no sense. There were a lot of people then who
were named Jesus and even Mary---even rich ones!
charles, http://humanpurpose.simplenet.com
Cary Kittrell
> The genetic forensic evidence is flawed for two reasons:
>
> (1) The specimens were likely further contaminated when gathered using
> bare hands from the bottom of limestone containers that had already
> been handled by those who had removed the bones and studied the
> external markings without wearing sterile gloves and gowns. This
> mishandling makes it almost certain that the ossuaries were
> contaminated with DNA not belonging to the bones that they once
> contained. Carefully handling with gloves and gowns to prevent
> contamination in the forensic laboratory is too late when there has
> been contamination in the field. This would be a likely reason for
> the non-match that was not given any consideration in the
> presentation.
>
> (2) Appropriate positive controls were not done (or done but negative
> and with this negative information possibly purposely withheld to
> deceive). Jesus and Mary(Maria) should have the same mitochondrial
> DNA as should Mary (Maria) and Matthew (theorized maternal relative of
> Maria) if indeed the speculation is correct.
Did Jesus have a Y chromosome? If so, how?
-- cary
Zadok
"charles" <deciding to offer another idiotic opinion > wrote in message
> It should also be noted that chissiling out a rock tomb is a highly
> labor-intense task and only the very rich could afford such a luxury!
> In no way would a poor carpenter end up in such a rich man's tomb!
Perhaps you would like to read your bible!! Try John 19: 41 - They laid
Jesus in a new sepulchre!!
WOW, I wonder how this poor carpenter, could have afforded a new sepulchre??
Oh, WOW, try Luke 8: 3 - Rich women ministered unto him of their substance!!
Listen you idiot, you can read whatever you like into the story!!
> The whole story makes no sense. There were a lot of people then who
> were named Jesus and even Mary---even rich ones!
Source please?? Or is it again, just your opinion!!
Kurt Gavin
"Zadok" <nob...@accesswave.ca> wrote in message
news:3IhHh.16802$Du6.118@edtnps82...
Good points.
These people are "believers" because of ignorance and lack of thinking,
which "charles" amply displays.
Linda Lee
>
> - Show quoted text -
Anyone who falls for Simcha's docudrama is ignorant and extremely
gullible.
I watched the 'documentary' (docudrama) 'The Lost Tomb of Jesus' a
couple
of nights ago, and they provided virtually NO 'evidence' apart from
the names
on the coffins.
After the showing of The Lost Tomb of Jesus, Ted Koppel held an hour-
long discussion with four people: the Director Simcha Jacobovici and
James Tabor (an author and consultant on the film) along with an
archaeologist with 40 years experience in Middle Eastern digs and
another man who was a professor of religious studies. The
archaeologist stated their "conclusions were already drawn in the
beginning" of the inquiry and that their "argument goes far beyond
any
reasonable interpretation".
Ted Koppel claimed their statistical figures
concerning the probability of this being THE Yeshua` family tomb were
way, way off and that the odds weren't nearly so high as the
director,
Simcha, claimed they were.
At first Simcha claimed to be a journalist, but when it was pointed
out to him that the reenactments of Yeshua` and Mary with their
alleged son, was not journalism, but was drama, he claimed to be a
filmmaker (and therefore apparently entitled to poetic license).
Simcha and Tabor looked like deer caught in the headlights because
Ted
Koppel had letters from several people Simcha had quoted in the film
who denied making the statements attributed to them.
Simcha alleges in the film that an ossuary missing from the tomb of
'the family of Jesus' was actually the famous James ossuary
(currently
being adjudicated in a court of law, believed to be the ossuary of
James the brother of Yeshua`), yet the archaeologist who was at the
original dig on the 'Jesus' tomb denies this, and said in a letter to
Koppel that he had seen all of the ossuaries there and that the one
that later turned up missing had been unmarked, while the James
ossuary has both his name and a rosette engraved on it.
One denial was in the form of a letter from the director of the DNA
testing Lab that Simcha had used to test the DNA of two of the
ossuaries (i.e. coffins), about which Simcha falsely claimed the DNA
of the one named Yeshua` was "a match" for the remains of the James
ossuary. The Director of the lab denied ever saying they were a
match, and said he'd have to do much more comparison testing of other
tombs before he could draw any conclusions.
Simcha claimed in the film concerning the ossuaries marked Yeshua`
and
'Mary'; "because the DNA did not match, the forensic archaeologist
concluded that they *must be* husband and wife". This was also
untrue,
and Koppel had a letter from the forensic archaeologist who denied
saying this and in fact logically stated "you cannot genetically test
for marriage".
Simcha had previously done a 'documentary' concerning his claims to
have found all of the Lost Tribes of Israel, a sadly unconvincing
documentary as well.
I'll have to agree with the archaeologist that their "argument goes
far beyond any reasonable interpretation".
What really surprised me about Koppel's critical discussion on the
'documentary' (docudrama) was the three written denials from people
Simcha MISquoted in the documentary.
Simcha had falsely claimed:
1.) a forensic archaeologist claimed that testing revealed Yeshua`
and
Mariamne were husband and wife;
2.) that DNA testing showed that there was a DNA match between the
contents of the James and Yeshua` ossuaries;
3.) and that the archaeologist supervising the original dig of the
Yeshua` tomb claimed the missing ossuary from the tomb of Yeshua` had
been the James ossuary believed to contain the remains of the brother
of Yeshua`:
During Ted Koppel's critical analysis of the documentary, he revealed
he had letters from those same people DENYING they had said what
Simcha claimed:
1.) The denial from the forensic archaeologist -- that he had NOT
concluded that the remains of Yeshua` and Miriamne showed they were
husband and wife.
2.) The denial from the DNA lab Director -- that he had NOT stated
the
James ossuary contents matched the contents of the Yeshua` ossuary.
3.) The denial from the archaeologist who had supervised the initial
dig of the tomb of Yeshua` -- that he had NOT stated that the ossuary
that later turned up missing had been what is now known as the James
ossuary. In fact he stated the opposite - that the missing ossuary
had been unmarked whereas the James ossuary was marked with the name
of James and a rosette.
Ted Koppel's critical discussion exposed Simcha as a three-fold LIAR
and destroyed all of his alleged 'evidence'. The only thing Simcha
still had going for him after the discussion was the names listed in
the tomb -- and Matthew, whose name is contained in this tomb was
NOT
among the immediate family members of Yeshua`.
Cary Kittrell
Thanks very much for you detailed summary.
I personally have not looked into this at all, mostly
because the initial claim struck me prima facie as
extremely unlikely -- which also means that I knew
few of the facts. So your post has been most
informative, and useful.
-- cary
Kurt Gavin
"Linda Lee" <lindag...@juno.com> wrote in message
news:1173222380....@q40g2000cwq.googlegroups.com...
I don't doubt that it's probably BS. In fact, this issue has come up before
in various ways and been knocked down.
However, the whole subject of jesus and religion has all sorts of
unsubstantiated myths that are taught as truth by the various churches. In
this story, supernaturalists are just getting back the same kind of
unsubstantiated rubbish that they have been foisting as truth themselves.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > The genetic forensic evidence is flawed for two reasons:
> >
> > (1) The specimens were likely further contaminated when gathered using
> > bare hands from the bottom of limestone containers that had already
> > been handled by those who had removed the bones and studied the
> > external markings without wearing sterile gloves and gowns. This
> > mishandling makes it almost certain that the ossuaries were
> > contaminated with DNA not belonging to the bones that they once
> > contained. Carefully handling with gloves and gowns to prevent
> > contamination in the forensic laboratory is too late when there has
> > been contamination in the field. This would be a likely reason for
> > the non-match that was not given any consideration in the
> > presentation.
> >
> > (2) Appropriate positive controls were not done (or done but negative
> > and with this negative information possibly purposely withheld to
> > deceive). Jesus and Mary(Maria) should have the same mitochondrial
> > DNA as should Mary (Maria) and Matthew (theorized maternal relative of
> > Maria) if indeed the speculation is correct.
>
> Did Jesus have a Y chromosome?
Yes.
> If so, how?
By the work of the Holy Spirit, Who has convicted you:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by publicly confessing with
your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Kurt Gavin
"Andrew B. dung, MDemon/PhDemon" <ach...@scatology.com> wrote in message
> May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by publicly confessing with
> your mouth "pass the psychtropics".
Linda Lee
>
> - Show quoted text -
Yes, I'm glad I caught it and taped it and especially the critique
after the showing. Simcha quotes several people falsely to support
his hypothesis. He would have looked more credible if he hadn't done
that. I also have a tape of his Lost Tribes of Israel documentary,
which is similarly unconvincing.
Isn't it amazing that the man who discovered the identity of the
remains of 'Jesus' and his son also discovered all ten of the lost
tribes of Israel ?? <sarcasm>
Mistylien
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:1173178781.7...@64g2000cwx.googlegroups.com...
There is one more reason it is not the tomb of Jesus Christ;
They put the body of Christ in a borrowed tomb of Joseph of Aramathia.
so if there were bones of a male in there it would not be Jesus for he came
out of that tomb 3 days afer they put Him in it. It was Called Resurrection
day when He started to build His new Church and also fire up the
"RAPTURE".
M,
Mistylien
"charles" <charles...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1173198410.0...@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
Did you miss the part were They put is dead body in a borrowed tomb of a
very rich man ?
However he did not stay in the grave for over 3 days and night as prophesied
he resurrected on the 3rd day so He is not in that grave as the unbelievers are
trying to pretend he is.
M,
>
> charles, http://humanpurpose.simplenet.com
>
Pastor Kutchie
<snip>
> There is one more reason it is not the tomb of Jesus Christ;
He's a fictional character.
Qadosh Stephanos
wrote:
>
>"charles" <deciding to offer another idiotic opinion > wrote in message
>
>> It should also be noted that chissiling out a rock tomb is a highly
>> labor-intense task and only the very rich could afford such a luxury!
>> In no way would a poor carpenter end up in such a rich man's tomb!
>
>Perhaps you would like to read your bible!! Try John 19: 41 - They laid
>Jesus in a new sepulchre!!
>
>WOW, I wonder how this poor carpenter, could have afforded a new sepulchre??
Answer:
Matthew 27:57-60 (ASV)
And when even was come, there came a rich man from Arimathaea, named
Joseph, who also himself was Jesus' disciple: this man went to Pilate,
and asked for the body of Jesus. Then Pilate commanded it to be given
up. And Joseph took the body, and wrapped it in a clean linen cloth,
and laid it in his own new tomb, which he had hewn out in the rock:
and he rolled a great stone to the door of the tomb, and departed.
Kurt Gavin
"Mistylien" <yardh...@charter.net> wrote in message
news:TatHh.144$UH....@newsfe06.lga...
We know that "he" isn't in the real world, either.
If any of these supernatural beings you grovel to were real, they would show
themselves.
Then there wouldn't be anything to doubt or argue over, would there?
All religions are just childish fantasies based on false myths.
Mistylien
"Pastor Kutchie" <use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote in message
news:1173263883....@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
But He lives.
He live in the hearts of all His chosen ones called
"THE SAINTS"!
Or the Bride of the Lamb,
Or "the Chosen lady".
and more.
M,
Kurt Gavin
>
> "Pastor Kutchie" <use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:1173263883....@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
>> On Mar 7, 6:30 am, "Mistylien" <yardhol...@charter.net> wrote:
>> <snip>
>>> There is one more reason it is not the tomb of Jesus Christ;
>>
>> He's a fictional character.
>>
>
> But He lives.
The bible is a flawed contradictory myth book that was obviously written by
men, not all-knowing supernatural beings.
If jesus or "god" or any of the other gods live, then let them show
themselves and prove their existence and tell people in a straightforward
way what they want from mankind.
Otherwise, you might as well worship TV cartoon characters.
Cary Kittrell
> convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > The genetic forensic evidence is flawed for two reasons:
> > >
> > > (1) The specimens were likely further contaminated when gathered using
> > > bare hands from the bottom of limestone containers that had already
> > > been handled by those who had removed the bones and studied the
> > > external markings without wearing sterile gloves and gowns. This
> > > mishandling makes it almost certain that the ossuaries were
> > > contaminated with DNA not belonging to the bones that they once
> > > contained. Carefully handling with gloves and gowns to prevent
> > > contamination in the forensic laboratory is too late when there has
> > > been contamination in the field. This would be a likely reason for
> > > the non-match that was not given any consideration in the
> > > presentation.
> > >
> > > (2) Appropriate positive controls were not done (or done but negative
> > > and with this negative information possibly purposely withheld to
> > > deceive). Jesus and Mary(Maria) should have the same mitochondrial
> > > DNA as should Mary (Maria) and Matthew (theorized maternal relative of
> > > Maria) if indeed the speculation is correct.
> >
> > Did Jesus have a Y chromosome?
>
> Yes.
>
> > If so, how?
>
> By the work of the Holy Spirit,
Interesting. Scriptural support?
-- cary
Cary Kittrell
Next up: Simcha Locates Atlantis! -- right after these messages.
-- cary
Linda Lee
> In article <1173236397.539257.23...@c51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "LindaLee" <lindagirl...@juno.com> writes:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 6, 6:24 pm, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
Too bad for Simcha, Ron Wyatt has already found the ark of the
covenant, the site of the crucifixion, the blood of Christ (which had
fallen through an earthquake crack onto the ark of the covenant), and
Goliath's sword, etc. :-)
From: http://www.wyattarchaeology.com/ark.htm
"Ron began to move the rocks aside, in order to reveal what was
underneath. He uncovered some dry rotted wooden boards which when he
moved aside revealed animal skins. Something shiny was under the
animal skins. Moving them aside, Ron uncovered the Table of Shewbread,
from the first temple. Continuing to shift aside more rocks and wood,
he then found a stone casing. The lid had cracked and had been moved
aside. Ron shone his flashlight down through the crack and saw a chest
of beaten gold. He knew he was looking at the Ark of the Covenant.
Overwhelmed with emotion and suffering from pneumonia Ron passed out
for 45 minutes in that chamber. It was January 6th 1982, when Ron made
this amazing discovery. He tried to photograph it with a Polaroid, but
the photos turned out foggy. He returned with a colonascope, but again
the photos turned out foggy.
Also in that cave Ron found the seven branch candlestick, a giant
sword (with no inscriptions, but possibly Goliath's), an ephod, the
wilderness tabernacle, the altar of incense among other things. Ron
has returned to the cave on occasion, and since his first visit the
cave has been completely tidied up. Ron has been told (although he
stresses he does not hear voices, and is not a prophet) that the time
is not yet for the world to see this discovery with their own eyes.
The time is coming when the inhabitants of the world will have a
universal, religious law enforced upon them. This law will force man
to break God's law, by penalty of disenfranchisement (being unable to
buy or sell, Rev. 13:17). Some time after this law has been passed,
God will allow the tables of stone (The 10 Commandments) and a good
clear video of the Ark of the Covenant to be put on public display.
(For more information on the proposed law download a small booklet
here.) "It is time for thee, LORD, to work: for they have made void
thy law." Psalm 119:126.
Whilst in the chamber, Ron noticed a dried, black substance in an
earthquake crack in the roof, above the Ark of the Covenant. He
noticed that this black substance was also on the lid of the cracked
stone casing. Obviously, this substance had dripped from the crack in
the roof, and provision had been made for it to land on the Ark of the
Covenant, as the stone lid had been cracked and moved aside. Ron
wondered what substance could be so sacred, that God made provision
for it to land on the Mercy Seat of the Ark of the Covenant. He
remembered the earthquake crack at the foot of the cross hole, and
suddenly an awesome realization as to what had happened, came over
him. Ron traced the earthquake crack, and indeed it was the same crack
as the one at the cross hole. The dried black substance in the crack
was tested and proved to be blood, apparently the blood of Jesus
Christ. The Bible says that when Jesus died there was an earthquake
and the rocks were rent (Matt. 27:51). A Roman soldier speared Christ
in His side in order to make sure He was dead, and blood and water
poured out (John 19:34). Ron discovered that this same blood and water
poured down through the earthquake crack and fell upon the Mercy Seat
of the Ark of the Covenant.
Human cells normally have 46 chromosomes. These are actually 23 pairs
of homologous chromosomes. In each pair of chromosomes, one of the
pair is from the mother and the other member is from the father.
Therefore, 23 chromosomes come from the mother and 23 from the father.
In each set of 23, 22 chromosomes are autosomal and one is sex-
determining. The sex-determining ones are the X chromosome and the Y
chromosome. Females are XX, so they can only contribute an X
chromosome to their offspring, whereas males are XY, which allows them
to contribute either an X or a Y. If they contribute an X, the child
is female, whereas if they contribute a Y, the child is male. The
fascinating finding in this blood was that instead of 46 chromosomes,
there were only 24. There were 22 autosomal chromosomes, one X
chromosome and one Y chromosome. This evidences that the person to
whom this blood belonged to had a mother but no human father, because
the normal contribution of paternal chromosomes is missing. 1John.5.8,
9: "And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and
the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. If we receive
the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the
witness of God which he hath testified of his Son." What does Daniel
9:24 mean, when it says, "To anoint the Most Holy."? The rest of the
verse refers to events that occurred at the cross. Did this also, then
occur at Jesus' crucifixion? The Hebrew word for Most Holy is, "qodesh
haq-qodeshim". It is used several times in the Old Testament and
always refers to the Most Holy place, or furniture in the Most Holy
place ie. the Ark of the Covenant. This then must be a prophecy that
Christ, on the cross, will anoint the Ark of the Covenant, with His
blood."
Oh well, maybe Simcha can still locate the remains of Jimmy Hoffa, or
as you said, there's always Atlantis - or Noah's ark.
Linda Lee
> "Mistylien" <yardhol...@charter.net> wrote in message
>
> news:4mOHh.97$9B1...@newsfe03.lga...
>
>
>
> > "Pastor Kutchie" <use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote in message
> >news:1173263883....@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
> >> On Mar 7, 6:30 am, "Mistylien" <yardhol...@charter.net> wrote:
> >> <snip>
> >>> There is one more reason it is not the tomb of Jesus Christ;
>
> >> He's a fictional character.
>
> > But He lives.
>
> The bible is a flawed contradictory myth book that was obviously written by
> men, not all-knowing supernatural beings.
>
> If jesus or "god" or any of the other gods live, then let them show
> themselves and prove their existence and tell people in a straightforward
> way what they want from mankind.
>
You miss the fact that he did just that i.e. appeared, proved himself
with miracles, and said what he expected from mankind. That is what
all the fuss is about.
Budikka666
All we need now is some evidence to support that beyond scriptural
fairy tales. Do you have some? And are you really Bruce Lee's widow?
Budikka
Cary Kittrell
> On Mar 8, 12:25 pm, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
> > In article <1173236397.539257.23...@c51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "LindaLee" <lindagirl...@juno.com> writes:
{...}
Whoa! Amazing...
"tidied up", eh? I guess dropping in on God without calling ahead
of time is just as impolite and potentially embarrassing as it is
among us mortals.
Actually, I had heard of Ron Wyatt, but I had no idea, no idea atall.
--cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> satan via one of his sockpuppets (demons) wrote:
> > convicted neighbor "Mistylien" wrote:
> > > satan via one of his sockpuppets (demons) wrote:
> > >> convicted neighbor "Mistylien" wrote:
> > >> <snip>
> > >>> There is one more reason it is not the tomb of Jesus Christ;
> >
> > >> He's a fictional character.
> >
> > > But He lives.
> >
> > The bible is a flawed contradictory myth book that was obviously written by
> > men, not all-knowing supernatural beings.
> >
> > If jesus or "god" or any of the other gods live, then let them show
> > themselves and prove their existence and tell people in a straightforward
> > way what they want from mankind.
>
> You miss the fact that he did just that i.e. appeared, proved himself
> with miracles, and said what he expected from mankind. That is what
> all the fuss is about.
There is also the fact that HE has revealed to us through Apostle John
via the Revelation of LORD Jesus Christ that HE will be returning to
judge us and that when HE returns **all** heads will bow and **all**
knees will bend to acknowledge that HE is "KING of kings and LORD of
lords." (More fussing here :-)
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Yes.
The knowledge about two sources of genetic materal, one for each set
of chromosomes, as manifested by the listing of the two geneologies
for Christ given in the Holy Bible came from the Holy Spirit.
Laus Deo ! ! !
Clearly the Holy Spirit still has HIS hook through your nose:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by publicly declaring with
Neil Kelsey
Your credibility is shot, dear Andrew, who I love unconditionally.
Cary Kittrell
Which disagree with each other, of course...
> for Christ given in the Holy Bible came from the Holy Spirit.
So, you believe that Joseph was in fact Jesus biological father?
If not, we're back to my request for chapter and verse for your
contention that Jesus had a Y chromosome.
-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
The two sets are different because they are from two difference
sources.
> > for Christ given in the Holy Bible came from the Holy Spirit.
>
> So, you believe that Joseph was in fact Jesus biological father?
No.
> If not, we're back to my request for chapter and verse for your
> contention that Jesus had a Y chromosome.
You requested Scriptural support for the work of the Holy Spirit.
Only the Holy Spirit could have possibly have known nearly 2000 years
ago that humans have two distinct sets of chromosomes. This knowledge
is evidenced by the listing of two distinct geneologies for Christ
that appear contradictory to those without discerning hearts such as
yourself.
Sockpuppet Flying Rat Convict #42
ach...@emorycardiology.com says...
> You requested Scriptural support for the work of the Holy Spirit.
>
"I will raise them up a prophet from among their brethren, like unto
thee; and I will put My words in his mouth, and he shall speak unto them
all that I shall command him. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever
will not hearken unto My words which he shall speak in My name, I will
require it of him.
But the prophet, that shall speak a word
presumptuously in My name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or
that shall speak in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall
die.'
And if thou say in thy heart: 'How shall we know the word which
the Lord hath not spoken?' When a prophet speaketh in the name of the
Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which
the Lord hath not spoken; the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously,
thou shalt not be afraid of him."
Deuteronomy 18:18-22
Keep wriggling on that hook, Chung. If there is a God, it won't save you
by keeping on repeating your lies and fakery.
FR
Cary Kittrell
I thought the Holy Spirit was the source. You're claiming transcription
errors?
>
> > > for Christ given in the Holy Bible came from the Holy Spirit.
> >
> > So, you believe that Joseph was in fact Jesus biological father?
>
> No.
>
> > If not, we're back to my request for chapter and verse for your
> > contention that Jesus had a Y chromosome.
>
> You requested Scriptural support for the work of the Holy Spirit.
>
> Only the Holy Spirit could have possibly have known nearly 2000 years
> ago that humans have two distinct sets of chromosomes. This knowledge
> is evidenced by the listing of two distinct geneologies for Christ
>
The Holy Spirit listed two conflicting genealogies for someone who had nothing
to do with Jesus' biological heredity in order to poetically echo the fact that
humans -- like yeast and head lice and fruit bats -- have two sets of chromosomes?
> that appear contradictory to those without discerning hearts such as
> yourself.
Actually, they appear contradictory to anyone with functioning eyeballs:
http://www.geocities.com/paulntobin/genealogy.html
Scroll down to the convenient side-by-side two-column presentation.
-- cary
Kurt Gavin
"Andrew B. Chung, MDemon/PhDemon" <ach...@scatology.com>
That Deuteronomy passage says you're condemned as a false prophet.
No defense? No reply?
Watch the chung demon flee.....
Kurt Gavin
No, you missed the fact that the bible is a flawed contradictory myth book
that was obviously written by
men, not all-knowing supernatural beings. That's the only place you find
claiming jesus existed or was supernatural.
Myths have existed about Zeus and the Greek gods, too. Does that meant hey
are real?
Kurt Gavin
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emorycardiology.com> wrote in message
news:1173391240.8...@n33g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Well that clinches it.
A false prophet speaks.
Whatever he says is almost certain to be L I E S.
Watch the Chung demon flee.....
>
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> > sources.
>
> I thought the Holy Spirit was the source.
Not. The Holy Spirit is non-corporeal. HE does not have chromosomes.
> You're claiming transcription errors?
No.
> >
> > > > for Christ given in the Holy Bible came from the Holy Spirit.
> > >
> > > So, you believe that Joseph was in fact Jesus biological father?
> >
> > No.
> >
> > > If not, we're back to my request for chapter and verse for your
> > > contention that Jesus had a Y chromosome.
> >
> > You requested Scriptural support for the work of the Holy Spirit.
> >
> > Only the Holy Spirit could have possibly have known nearly 2000 years
> > ago that humans have two distinct sets of chromosomes. This knowledge
> > is evidenced by the listing of two distinct geneologies for Christ.
>
> The Holy Spirit listed two conflicting genealogies for someone who had nothing
> to do with Jesus' biological heredity in order to poetically echo the fact that
> humans -- like yeast and head lice and fruit bats -- have two sets of chromosomes?
The Holy Spirit guided Matthew to list the first geneology that
describes how HE created the first of two sets of chromosomes that HE
used to make the body of Jesus of Nazareth. Then, the Holy Spirit
guided Luke to list the second different geneology that describes how
HE created the second of two sets of chromosomes that HE used with the
first set for diploidy.
> > that appear contradictory to those without discerning hearts such as
> > yourself.
>
> Actually, they appear contradictory to anyone with functioning eyeballs:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/paulntobin/genealogy.html
>
> Scroll down to the convenient side-by-side two-column presentation.
Clearly two very different geneologies rather than two contradictory
ones.
It also shows that the Holy Spirit is not only able to travel back in
time but that HE is also able to create parallel alternate realities
where there exists persons unknown to us in our reality.
HE is GOD, Creator of heaven and earth, and Author of reality (even
the alternate ones)...
... and HE has convicted you by placing HIS tethered ring through your
nose:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Andrew <><
Kurt Gavin
foreskin.
As a jew he must have been circumcised, and is that still living too?
Let's see if chung flees from this important question, too.
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emorycardiology.com> wrote in message
news:1173398267....@c51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Cary Kittrell
Cary Kittrell
impression that Andrew crafted the above Subject: line and then
posted it to `alt.atheism'. If so, my bad: that was MY Subject:
line, and I was the one who copied it over to `alt.atheism' -- I
felt that it was WAY too interesting, in a theological kind
of way, for a.a assembled to miss out on.
-- cary
Pastor Kutchie
What part of "fictional" don't you understand?
Pastor Kutchie
Your words are a bucket of steam, Earthquack. You now have two major
instances of being proven absolutely wrong to your credit, and no
amount of Clintonian hair-splitting can rescue you now.
>
> Andrew <><
> --
Written fish is silent flatulence.
SBD!
Sockpuppet Flying Rat Convict #42
use...@heathens.org.uk says...
He's also got a brand new ko0k award.
VICTOR VON FRANKENSTEIN WEIRD SCIENCE AWARD
The winner is...ANDREW B. CHUNG!
18 votes Andrew B. Chung
05 votes Walter Mautner
02 votes Neither of the above
No doubt he'll start on about crowns and all that, but how is he going
to "lay them at the feet of God" when his fake prophet stuff means he's
automatically banned from heaven?
FR
Cary Kittrell
> convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
{...}
> > > > So, you believe that Joseph was in fact Jesus biological father?
> > >
> > > No.
> > >
> > > > If not, we're back to my request for chapter and verse for your
> > > > contention that Jesus had a Y chromosome.
> > >
> > > You requested Scriptural support for the work of the Holy Spirit.
> > >
> > > Only the Holy Spirit could have possibly have known nearly 2000 years
> > > ago that humans have two distinct sets of chromosomes. This knowledge
> > > is evidenced by the listing of two distinct geneologies for Christ.
> >
> > The Holy Spirit listed two conflicting genealogies for someone who had nothing
> > to do with Jesus' biological heredity in order to poetically echo the fact that
> > humans -- like yeast and head lice and fruit bats -- have two sets of chromosomes?
>
> The Holy Spirit guided Matthew to list the first geneology that
> describes how HE created the first of two sets of chromosomes that HE
> used to make the body of Jesus of Nazareth. Then, the Holy Spirit
> guided Luke to list the second different geneology that describes how
> HE created the second of two sets of chromosomes that HE used with the
> first set for diploidy.
A very ...novel claim indeed. And one which immediately raises
all kinds of interesting questions. For example:
1) Mary made no genetic contribution to Jesus?
2) Did the normal shuffling mechanisms, such as crossover
and transposition, apply to both lines?
3) Which line, Solomon's or Nathan's, provided the X chromosome?
And whichever one, were the rest of that chromosal set subject
to imprinting by the other set?
4) Are you putting me on? If so, well done!
>
> > > that appear contradictory to those without discerning hearts such as
> > > yourself.
> >
> > Actually, they appear contradictory to anyone with functioning eyeballs:
> >
> > http://www.geocities.com/paulntobin/genealogy.html
> >
> > Scroll down to the convenient side-by-side two-column presentation.
>
> Clearly two very different geneologies rather than two contradictory
> ones.
>
> It also shows that the Holy Spirit is not only able to travel back in
> time but that HE is also able to create parallel alternate realities
> where there exists persons unknown to us in our reality.
>
> HE is GOD, Creator of heaven and earth, and Author of reality (even
> the alternate ones)...
-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
13 genes originally were from Mary prior to modification.
> 2) Did the normal shuffling mechanisms, such as crossover
> and transposition, apply to both lines?
The Holy Spirit directed all changes and rearrangements.
> 3) Which line, Solomon's or Nathan's, provided the X chromosome?
The X chromosome originally was from King Solomon prior to
modification.
> And whichever one, were the rest of that chromosal set subject
> to imprinting by the other set?
Imprinting was reset and directed by the Holy Spirit prior to
implantation in Mary's uterus.
> 4) Are you putting me on? If so, well done!
It remains my choice to continue to receive the guidance of the Holy
Spirit in everything I say, do, and write.
> > > > that appear contradictory to those without discerning hearts such as
> > > > yourself.
> > >
> > > Actually, they appear contradictory to anyone with functioning eyeballs:
> > >
> > > http://www.geocities.com/paulntobin/genealogy.html
> > >
> > > Scroll down to the convenient side-by-side two-column presentation.
> >
> > Clearly two very different geneologies rather than two contradictory
> > ones.
> >
> > It also shows that the Holy Spirit is not only able to travel back in
> > time but that HE is also able to create parallel alternate realities
> > where there exists persons unknown to us in our reality.
> >
> > HE is GOD, Creator of heaven and earth, and Author of reality (even
> > the alternate ones)...
Andrew <><
Father Haskell
Holy shit, I was right. He's going to attempt to re-animate jebus,
from a ring-around-the-collar stain, probably.
Kurt Gavin
"Andrew B. Chung, MDemon/PhDemon" <ach...@scatology.com> wrote in message
<snip>
Chung, you are condemned by Deuteronomy for your false prophecies.
You are a criminal and a demon.
DEPART DEMON chung!!!
Mark K. Bilbo
Having been killed in that apocalypse thing, we can't hear you...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
- H. L. Mencken
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Without the LORD, you will always be wrong (Ecclesiastes).
> He's going to attempt to re-animate jebus,
> from a ring-around-the-collar stain, probably.
Yours is the confusion that afflicts "the man of lawlessness"
described in 2 Thessalonians 2.
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by publicly declaring with
your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
Putting HIM off can have dire consequences as dear convicted neighbor
Bob Pastorio, who remains in my prayers, has tragically discovered:
http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/4211.html
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
Kurt Gavin
deal with the truth.
The Chung demon will cower and howl rather than address the truth.
Ask not "why Christianity is filled with Tedi Haggards", ask "how
Christianity creates Tedi Haggards".
Rules for selling your daughter into sexual slavery:
(Exodus 21:7-11 NLT) When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will
not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please
the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is
not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the
contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry
his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her
as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he
may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife.
If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman
without making any payment.
Father Haskell
wrote:
The evil Dr. Chung cackles as he attempts to divert attention from
his recent attempts to inject frog eggs with scrapings of jebus'
vomit
purchased online.
Archie Leach
>
>May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by publicly declaring with
>your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
>
>http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
>
>Putting HIM off can have dire consequences as dear convicted neighbor
>Bob Pastorio, who remains in my prayers, has tragically discovered:
>
>http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/4211.html
Oh, enough of that nonsense, you attention-whoring ghoul.
It remains indeterminate whether or not one's lack of faith (or one's
ongoing faith) has any specific bearing on what kind of illnesses one
receives in life.
Only GOD knows that. YOU are not GOD.
Cardinal Snarky of the Fannish Inquisition
Chaire, and didst finally confess, after taking Muche Tea:
Not more than anyone else, anyway. <glances at Valentine Michael Smith>
--
________________________________________________________________________
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"Lola Stonewall Riot" is not part of my email addy.
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WINNERS! Usenet Kook Awards, January 2007 MID:
<Xns98D232E44C01pi...@204.153.244.170>
"Hey Theophan, I need your help again. Will you please come assist me
again? aggreen is after me again. He has been after me for a year and
counting now. I want you to destroy his character for me. I can't do
it." -- Olympiada: Not too proud to beg for help when it comes to
character assassination, and Mistress of the Bleeding Obvious.
MID: <45E22F00...@yahoo.com>
"I think we have taken care of the net.KKKopping in alt.gothic. Could
all the kookologists trim alt.gothic from their headers and leave us
alone now? It has gone on long enough. I can take care of myself in there
from here on out. Thanks. I know how to fight off trolls now. Thank you
for the education." -- Olympiada thinks she's had an education, and that
means it's time for those nice kookologists to go away and leave her
sandbox alone now, in MID: <45e330a8$0$16404$8826...@free.teranews.com>
"Who booby-traps a dead end? That's just not right." -- Cordelia
>> Are you the Peter J Ross that I've heard so much about?
>
> Probably. I'm the one who doesn't resort to forgery after losing an
> argument.
"You're the one with the extensive brain damage... okay I see. You're
gonna be easily to own them." -- PorchMonkey4Life: Not aware of too many
things. MID: <bf7xh.834$hH2.64@trnddc02>
At last! See Joxer The Mity Monkey on camera! Watch him freak out!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_WuaENGqz0
"And no, I did not have sex with my son. But if I did I certainly
wouldn't tell you. Something so beautiful and precious should be kept
private." -- Kathy L. Mosesian, or possibly not really her, confesses
she may be a liar and committer of incest with her own son, in MID:
<cfcd3f4660694e3a...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net>
The reporter asked Colin Powell (or George Bush), "What proof do you
have that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction?"
He replied, "We kept the receipts." -- Bill Hicks
Looney Maroon nominee for August 2006 Johnny D Wentzky foamed:
"You never asked someone who goes into areas of the internet that are
only for adults who has an underage id somehow or another if they are a
cop posing as an underage person online?
I guess lots of people just don't watch dateline or read stories much.
Why don;t you go to pervertedjustice,com and see what they do. They are
awash in their self-proclaimed glory after they lied to membners of the
public.
They are awash in their self-proclaimed glory after they posed as an
underage person and agreed to do all sorts of sex acts wioth adult
males, and they are adults posing as teenager themselves. They make
themsleves into liars by falsely impersonating underage persons and by
not fuilfilling the words they tell the victims online in their chats.
Why don't you read it where they tell these victims of their deceit
about how they have been with grown men and such? Why don't you read it
where they say, "That would be cool." after someone makes an advance
towards an adult who is posing as a teenager? And, where they agree to
meet the person, etc.
Lost control, didn't you?
Is that why you feel as if you need to lie so much now? I see where lots
of these false impersonation games are not sticking. They feel as if
they can lie and then order the victims to get counseling in the
gayblade, governmental, pro-choice tax leech counseling centers. They
are doing nothing more than usury and fraud in many cases." -- Wentzky
almost comes out of the closet as a pedo/ephebophile in MID:
<H%%Eg.28916$Uq1....@bignews6.bellsouth.net>
Father Haskell
wrote:
>
> Putting HIM off can have dire consequences as dear convicted neighbor
> Bob Pastorio, who remains in my prayers, has tragically discovered:
Isn't just *wishing* cancer onto someone a violation of the
Hippocratic
Oath?
TheBookman
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by publicly declaring with
>>your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
cAndy Chunk, don't you realize that it has nothing to do with the words of
your mouth? Besides, evidence suggests that the LORD of your life is your
own overblown Ego.
>>
>>http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
>>
>>Putting HIM off can have dire consequences as dear convicted neighbor
>>Bob Pastorio, who remains in my prayers, has tragically discovered:
Why are you praying that people will get sick, cAndy?
>>
>>http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/4211.html
>
> Oh, enough of that nonsense, you attention-whoring ghoul.
>
> It remains indeterminate whether or not one's lack of faith (or one's
> ongoing faith) has any specific bearing on what kind of illnesses one
> receives in life.
>
> Only GOD knows that. YOU are not GOD.
To paraphrase: 'What's the difference between God and Andrew Chung? God
_knows_ that he's not Andrew Chung...'
cAndy's one of the most mean-spirited, unChristian, judgeMental kuhntroll
freaks I've seen recently. He's even ko0kier and less of a christian in
his behavior than Frito, which takes a lotta doin'!
ESL!
--
Bookman -The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in AFA-B
Kazoo Konspirator #668 (The Neighbor of the Beast)
Clue-Bat Wrangler
Keeper of the Nickname Lists
Despotic Kookologist of the New World Order
Hammer of Thor award, October 2005
BARBARA WOODHOUSE MEMORIAL DOG-WHISTLE AWARD
MIKE "MIGUEL" CRANSTON, TRAINED BY BOOKMAN
COOSN-266-06-89425
"I'd love to kill you in a ring" - Bartmo gets all touchy-feely
"****SPV....... So yes I am an idiot."
"ASK THE NWS, YOUR TAX DOLLAR GOES TO THEM NOT TO DR.TURI."
- Mr. Turi explains how to accurately predict hurricanes
"Bookman is yet another Usenet fignuten, meaning naysayer and/or
rusemaster of their incest cloned Third Reich. In other words, you're
communicating with an intellectual if not a biological clone of
Hitler."
- Brad Guth tries to wax "scientific", but invokes Godwin, instead.
WWFSMD?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >
> >May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by publicly declaring with
> >your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
> >
> >http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
> >
> >Putting HIM off can have dire consequences as dear convicted neighbor
> >Bob Pastorio, who remains in my prayers, has tragically discovered:
> >
> >http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/4211.html
>
> Oh, enough of that nonsense, you attention-whoring ghoul.
Name-calling simply shows that you remain convicted by the Holy
Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> It remains indeterminate whether or not one's lack of faith (or one's
> ongoing faith) has any specific bearing on what kind of illnesses one
> receives in life.
LORD Almighty GOD remains sovereign as the Author of all reality
(including the alternate ones).
> Only GOD knows that.
Yes, HE is omniscient.
> YOU are not GOD.
Correct.
It remains my choice to continue to receive the guidance of the Holy
Spirit in everything I say, do, and write.
The Holy Spirit is GOD:
http://abchung.livejournal.com/986.html?thread=730#t730
TheBookman
> convicted neighbor Archie Leach wrote:
"Convicted", cAndy? Only by your egotistical hatred. There is no sin in
disagreeing with you.
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
Which spirit are you in, cAndy? Vodka, perhaps? What makes vodka holy?
>>
>>>
>>>May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by publicly declaring with
>>>your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
>>>
>>>http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
>>>
>>>Putting HIM off can have dire consequences as dear convicted neighbor
>>>Bob Pastorio, who remains in my prayers, has tragically discovered:
>>>
>>>http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/4211.html
>>
>> Oh, enough of that nonsense, you attention-whoring ghoul.
>
> Name-calling simply shows that you remain convicted by the Holy
> Spirit:
You are NOT the "holy spirit", ko0kboi. HTH.
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
>> It remains indeterminate whether or not one's lack of faith (or one's
>> ongoing faith) has any specific bearing on what kind of illnesses one
>> receives in life.
>
> LORD Almighty GOD remains sovereign as the Author of all reality
> (including the alternate ones).
Assuming he exists. That being the case, he will no doubt judge you for
for usurping his authoritah!
>
>> Only GOD knows that.
>
> Yes, HE is omniscient.
>
>> YOU are not GOD.
>
> Correct.
Then why do you keep actling like you are?
>
> It remains my choice to continue to receive the guidance of the Holy
> Spirit in everything I say, do, and write.
Too bad that your speech, actions, and writings only reflect yourself, and
not any spirits, holy or otherwise (except, perhaps, teh vodka)
>
> The Holy Spirit is GOD:
>
> http://abchung.livejournal.com/986.html?thread=730#t730
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
If that is the case, why are you so bitter, judgemental, unforgiving,
unchristian, uncharitable, unloving, and hate-driven, cAndy?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Archie Leach wrote:
>
> "Convicted", cAndy?
Yes, by the Holy Spirit.
> Only by your egotistical hatred.
It remains my choice to continue to die to self daily in order to
become a new creature in HIM daily. In this way, those who are the
brethren of LORD Jesus Christ forsake our egos.
> There is no sin in disagreeing with you.
Correct.
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> Which spirit are you in, cAndy?
It remains my choice to receive the guidance of the Holy Spirit in
everything I say, do, and write.
> Vodka, perhaps?
No.
> What makes vodka holy?
Nothing.
> >>
> >>>
> >>>May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by publicly declaring with
> >>>your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
> >>>
> >>>http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
> >>>
> >>>Putting HIM off can have dire consequences as dear convicted neighbor
> >>>Bob Pastorio, who remains in my prayers, has tragically discovered:
> >>>
> >>>http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/4211.html
> >>
> >> Oh, enough of that nonsense, you attention-whoring ghoul.
> >
> > Name-calling simply shows that you remain convicted by the Holy
> > Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> You are NOT the "holy spirit"
Correct.
> , ko0kboi. HTH.
Name-calling simply shows that you are lost:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp
> >
> >> It remains indeterminate whether or not one's lack of faith (or one's
> >> ongoing faith) has any specific bearing on what kind of illnesses one
> >> receives in life.
> >
> > LORD Almighty GOD remains sovereign as the Author of all reality
> > (including the alternate ones).
>
> Assuming he exists.
You really have no other explanation for what you have witnessed, have
experienced, and will experience.
> That being the case, he will no doubt judge you for
> for usurping his authoritah!
Without the LORD, your fantasies are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
> >
> >> Only GOD knows that.
> >
> > Yes, HE is omniscient.
> >
> >> YOU are not GOD.
> >
> > Correct.
>
> Then why do you keep actling like you are?
Without the LORD, your opinions are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
> >
> > It remains my choice to continue to receive the guidance of the Holy
> > Spirit in everything I say, do, and write.
>
> Too bad that your speech, actions, and writings only reflect yourself, and
> not any spirits, holy or otherwise (except, perhaps, teh vodka)
Without the LORD, your beliefs are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
> >
> > The Holy Spirit is GOD:
> >
> > http://abchung.livejournal.com/986.html?thread=730#t730
> >
> > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> If that is the case, why are you so bitter, judgemental, unforgiving,
> unchristian, uncharitable, unloving, and hate-driven, cAndy?
Without the LORD, your judgments are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
This victory belongs to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul,
mind, and strength:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp
Reverently fear GOD and dread nothing (especially not cancer of
unknown origin) that is of this world:
http://TruthRUS.org/DreadNought
May you wisely surrender to HIM by publicly declaring with your mouth
that "Jesus is LORD:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
May GOD, in HIS infinite grace and mercy, bless dear neighbor Bob
Pastorio, who has been stricken since putting off surrendering to
HIM:
http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/4211.html
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
Flying Rat Convict #42
ach...@emorycardiology.com says...
>
> May GOD, in HIS infinite grace and mercy, bless dear neighbor Bob
> Pastorio, who has been stricken since putting off surrendering to
> HIM:
>
of cancer sufferers?
The chung demon squeals, howls and runs away when confronted with his
own sins.
As Andrew B Chung is doing his best to evade hard questions put to him,
let's keep reminding people of the words in the Bible. The words
supposedly of the very God that Chung reckons he worships.
Chung keeps predicting and prophesying earthquakes, plagues and nuclear
wars. They don't happen. Therefore:
"I will raise them up a prophet from among their brethren, like unto
thee; and I will put My words in his mouth, and he shall speak unto them
all that I shall command him. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever
will not hearken unto My words which he shall speak in My name, I will
require it of him. But the prophet, that shall speak a word
presumptuously in My name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or
that shall speak in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall
die.' And if thou say in thy heart: 'How shall we know the word which
the Lord hath not spoken?' When a prophet speaketh in the name of the
Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which
the Lord hath not spoken; the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously,
thou shalt not be afraid of him."
Deuteronomy 18:18-22
No matter how much Chung wriggles, edits or ignores, the coward is a
false prophet by the definition of his own precious scripture and bible.
Archie Leach
>convicted neighbor Archie Leach wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by publicly declaring with
>> >your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
>> >
>> >http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
>> >
>> >Putting HIM off can have dire consequences as dear convicted neighbor
>> >Bob Pastorio, who remains in my prayers, has tragically discovered:
>> >
>> >http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/4211.html
>>
>> Oh, enough of that nonsense, you attention-whoring ghoul.
>
>Name-calling simply [...]
Spare us the theatrics, already.
>http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
>> It remains indeterminate whether or not one's lack of faith (or one's
>> ongoing faith) has any specific bearing on what kind of illnesses one
>> receives in life.
>
>LORD Almighty GOD remains sovereign as the Author of all reality
>(including the alternate ones).
>
>> Only GOD knows that.
>
>Yes, HE is omniscient.
>
>> YOU are not GOD.
>
>Correct.
>
>It remains my choice to continue to receive the guidance of the Holy
>Spirit in everything I say, do, and write.
>
>The Holy Spirit is GOD:
>
>http://abchung.livejournal.com/986.html?thread=730#t730
>
>Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
>Andrew <><
So you continue to jump up and down about a terminal cancer patient's
situation, first claiming that it is definitely his "refusal" to be
"saved" (at least by your terms) that was a factor in his being
stricken, and then CHANGING that to state that he has been "stricken"
before declaring his salvation.
Some "Holy" Spirit that's guiding you. It seems a bit unholy to me,
but then again, I'm not a fan of this sort of "ends-justify-the-means"
evangelization that you promote.
Daedalus
<ach...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
>neighbor TheBookman wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > convicted neighbor Archie Leach wrote:
>>
>> "Convicted", cAndy?
>
>Yes, by the Holy Spirit.
"Holy Spirit" You don't even know what that means.
>
>> Only by your egotistical hatred.
>
>It remains my choice to continue to die to self daily in order to
>become a new creature in HIM daily. In this way, those who are the
>brethren of LORD Jesus Christ forsake our egos.
>
Maybe if you die just enough to be dead you'll get invited to the
LORD's house to play poker.
>> There is no sin in disagreeing with you.
>
>Correct.
>
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> Which spirit are you in, cAndy?
>
>It remains my choice to receive the guidance of the Holy Spirit in
>everything I say, do, and write.
>
YOU dont' have any guidance, Andy. You are a deluded man who has only
convinced himself he has a connection to the divine in order to
compensate for your real life failure.
>> Vodka, perhaps?
>
>No.
>
>> What makes vodka holy?
>
>Nothing.
>
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by publicly declaring with
>> >>>your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
>> >>>
>> >>>http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
>> >>>
>> >>>Putting HIM off can have dire consequences as dear convicted neighbor
>> >>>Bob Pastorio, who remains in my prayers, has tragically discovered:
>> >>>
>> >>>http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/4211.html
>> >>
>> >> Oh, enough of that nonsense, you attention-whoring ghoul.
>> >
>> > Name-calling simply shows that you remain convicted by the Holy
>> > Spirit:
>
>http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
>> You are NOT the "holy spirit"
>
>Correct.
And no holy spirit guides you in your idiotic postings to usenet,
unless it is the holy spirit of insignificant acts and meaningless
words.
>
>> , ko0kboi. HTH.
>
>Name-calling simply shows that you are lost:
>
>
>> >
>> >> It remains indeterminate whether or not one's lack of faith (or one's
>> >> ongoing faith) has any specific bearing on what kind of illnesses one
>> >> receives in life.
>> >
>> > LORD Almighty GOD remains sovereign as the Author of all reality
>> > (including the alternate ones).
>>
>> Assuming he exists.
>
>You really have no other explanation for what you have witnessed, have
>experienced, and will experience.
>
Yes we do. An insignificant little twit with kooky ideas about wieght
loss was laughed at heartily by his colleagues.
Feeling meaningless and impotent and extremely angry because he was
not viewed as the two pound genius he thought he was, the said
insignificant twit turned to a life of k00kery and laughably convinced
himself he was on a mission from Gawd.
*bahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!* (See it's very difficult not to laugh
at that.
Since then he has been squatting in usenet promoting his fraudulent
ideas and evangelizing the annoyed masses, while remaining an
insignificant twit who can not make it in the real world or be
successful in the unreal world, but here he stays because he knows
this is the only place that will have him and let him rant like the
delusional that he is.
See? We have a perfectly good explanation.
>> That being the case, he will no doubt judge you for
>> for usurping his authoritah!
>
>Without the LORD, your fantasies are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
>
Baha! It doesn't say that, liar.
>> >
>> >> Only GOD knows that.
>> >
>> > Yes, HE is omniscient.
>> >
>> >> YOU are not GOD.
>> >
>> > Correct.
>>
>> Then why do you keep actling like you are?
>
>Without the LORD, your opinions are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
*yawn*
>
>> >
>> > It remains my choice to continue to receive the guidance of the Holy
>> > Spirit in everything I say, do, and write.
>>
>> Too bad that your speech, actions, and writings only reflect yourself, and
>> not any spirits, holy or otherwise (except, perhaps, teh vodka)
>
>Without the LORD, your beliefs are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
Without the caps lock, your screed is meaningless.
>
>> >
>> > The Holy Spirit is GOD:
>> >
>> > http://abchung.livejournal.com/986.html?thread=730#t730
>> >
>> > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>>
>> If that is the case, why are you so bitter, judgemental, unforgiving,
>> unchristian, uncharitable, unloving, and hate-driven, cAndy?
>
>Without the LORD, your judgments are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
>
phhhpphhphphbhllllppphbbbt!!! Excuse you, Dr. Chung!
>This victory belongs to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul,
>mind, and strength:
>
What victory? You lost, as always.
<Snip fraudulent spam.>
Jade
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >convicted neighbor Archie Leach wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by publicly declaring with
> >> >your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
> >> >
> >> >http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
> >> >
> >> >Putting HIM off can have dire consequences as dear convicted neighbor
> >> >Bob Pastorio, who remains in my prayers, has tragically discovered:
> >> >
> >> >http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/4211.html
> >>
> >> Oh, enough of that nonsense, you attention-whoring ghoul.
> >
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
> Spare us the theatrics, already.
There are no theatrics in a prayer list.
> >http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> >
> >> It remains indeterminate whether or not one's lack of faith (or one's
> >> ongoing faith) has any specific bearing on what kind of illnesses one
> >> receives in life.
> >
> >LORD Almighty GOD remains sovereign as the Author of all reality
> >(including the alternate ones).
> >
> >> Only GOD knows that.
> >
> >Yes, HE is omniscient.
> >
> >> YOU are not GOD.
> >
> >Correct.
> >
> > It remains my choice to continue to receive the guidance of the Holy
> > Spirit in everything I say, do, and write.
> >
> >The Holy Spirit is GOD:
> >
> >http://abchung.livejournal.com/986.html?thread=730#t730
>
> So you continue to jump up and down about a terminal cancer patient's
> situation
Sorry your being reminded about the tragedy of Bob Pastorio bothers
you so terribly.
Please forgive all my iniquities.
>, first claiming that it is definitely his "refusal" to be
> "saved" (at least by your terms) that was a factor in his being
> stricken, and then CHANGING that to state that he has been "stricken"
> before declaring his salvation.
Actually, the Holy Spirit has not guided me to explain the reason for
Bob Pastorio's devastating terminal illness. It is not by chance but
by GOD (Proverbs 16:33) that Bob, who has known coronary heart disease
status post angioplasty with stenting, is dying from a condition for
which no cardiologist, including me, can help him. A condition that
is most certainly different from that which would arise from a
cardiologist's curse.
> Some "Holy" Spirit that's guiding you. It seems a bit unholy to me,
> but then again, I'm not a fan of this sort of "ends-justify-the-means"
> evangelization that you promote.
GOD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not to either preach
or evangelize.
These victories belong to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul,
mind, and strength:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp
Reverently fear GOD and dread nothing (especially not cancer of
unknown origin) that is of this world:
http://TruthRUS.org/DreadNought
May you wisely surrender to HIM by publicly declaring with your mouth
that "Jesus is LORD:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
May GOD, in HIS infinite grace and mercy, bless dear convicted
neighbor Bob Pastorio, who has become terminal stricken after unwisely
putting off surrendering to the Holy Spirit:
http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/4211.html
Demon Lord of Confusion
confuse the issue further by squeaking:
> neighbor TheBookman wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > convicted neighbor Archie Leach wrote:
>>
>> "Convicted", cAndy?
>
> Yes, by the Holy Spirit.
Any record of the conviction anywhere except in a usenet post,
Chungster?
>> Only by your egotistical hatred.
>
> It remains my choice to continue to die to self daily in order to become a
> new creature in HIM daily. In this way, those who are the brethren of LORD
> Jesus Christ forsake our egos.
Ahhhh, you're a Crowleyan.
>> There is no sin in disagreeing with you.
>
> Correct.
Well, there's a breakthrough.
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> Which spirit are you in, cAndy?
>
> It remains my choice to receive the guidance of the Holy Spirit in
> everything I say, do, and write.
Or so you say.
>> Vodka, perhaps?
>
> No.
Or so you say.
>> What makes vodka holy?
>
> Nothing.
How do you know?
>> >>>May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by publicly declaring with
>> >>>your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
>> >>>
>> >>>http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
>> >>>
>> >>>Putting HIM off can have dire consequences as dear convicted neighbor
>> >>>Bob Pastorio, who remains in my prayers, has tragically discovered:
>> >>>
>> >>>http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/4211.html
>> >>
>> >> Oh, enough of that nonsense, you attention-whoring ghoul.
>> >
>> > Name-calling simply shows that you remain convicted by the Holy
>> > Spirit:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Worthless. Some posters are litsed multiple times.
>> You are NOT the "holy spirit"
>
> Correct.
Nor are you "guided" by it. If you were, you would not make false
prophecies, nor would you lits some posters more than once.
>> , ko0kboi. HTH.
>
> Name-calling simply shows that you are lost:
<k00klink snipped>
Ko0kboi.
>> >> It remains indeterminate whether or not one's lack of faith (or one's
>> >> ongoing faith) has any specific bearing on what kind of illnesses one
>> >> receives in life.
>> >
>> > LORD Almighty GOD remains sovereign as the Author of all reality
>> > (including the alternate ones).
>>
>> Assuming he exists.
>
> You really have no other explanation for what you have witnessed, have
> experienced, and will experience.
...Outside of science.
>> That being the case, he will no doubt judge you for for usurping his
>> authoritah!
>
> Without the LORD, your fantasies are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
Without your sanity, your declarations are fantasies.
>> >> Only GOD knows that.
>> >
>> > Yes, HE is omniscient.
>> >
>> >> YOU are not GOD.
>> >
>> > Correct.
>>
>> Then why do you keep actling like you are?
>
> Without the LORD, your opinions are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
Without your honesty, your quotes are lies.
>> > It remains my choice to continue to receive the guidance of the Holy
>> > Spirit in everything I say, do, and write.
>>
>> Too bad that your speech, actions, and writings only reflect yourself,
>> and not any spirits, holy or otherwise (except, perhaps, teh vodka)
>
> Without the LORD, your beliefs are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
Without your brain, your beliefs are funny.
>> > The Holy Spirit is GOD:
>> >
>> > http://abchung.livejournal.com/986.html?thread=730#t730
>> >
>> > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>>
>> If that is the case, why are you so bitter, judgemental, unforgiving,
>> unchristian, uncharitable, unloving, and hate-driven, cAndy?
>
> Without the LORD, your judgments are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
<snip ko0kfr0th>
Without your heart, your judgments are self-serving.
--
________________________________________________________________________
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The God of Odd Statements, the Ugliest Pigfucker In The Universe
Stupidity Takes Its Toll. Please Have Exact Change.
Remove all the confusion and k00ks from my posting addy to send me your
sekrit messages.
Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle
Trainer of PorchMonkey4Life
AUK FAQ: http://www.caballista.org/auk/faq.html
WINNERS! Usenet Kook Awards, February 2007
Message-ID: <Xns98EE28E1C58ABw...@204.153.245.131>
"You are the GOD-DAMNED, IGNORANT LIAR here.
Now, that is not me taking the Lord's name in vain."
-- John Wentzky: Living proof of the Death of Irony, in Message-ID:
<jljOe.5348$ZD4.3...@bignews3.bellsouth.net>
I mourned:
> The Mop Jockey did most oddly state:
>> DUDE, YOU WIN TEH INTERNETS!!!
>>
>> the oversized check is in the mail.
>
> Alas, all I get for my trouble is a Monkey that's trained to hurl shit
> under several of my nyms.
"DevMcKinHole, you also get the pleasure of sucking off my doggy and
cleaning out his butthole with your tongue." -- He's not so much a
*Porch*Monkey as a _Fire_Monkey, as in one who's on fire due to his
own tendency to mess with lighter fluid while standing beside a hot
stove. Message-ID: <77Uxh.1996$384.1135@trnddc05>
Said I:
> You, Monkey-man, are quite possibly the only usenetter in existence
> who does not and cannot own Hatter.
"[...] What's the matter fagboi, am I beating your as$ so badly that
you're no seeking an alliance with the diaperboi?...YOu really don't
know how dumb you are, do ya?" -- I guess I don't, Monkey.
Message-ID: <gHVIh.1760$Bi2.1639@trnddc01>
"Ok, but I am not stalking Teh Mop Jockey, I seem to be building a
relationship with him. Remember, I am a Christian so the secular rules
do not apply to me. I strive to be amoral, which I think applies to this
situation. Keep this in mind, please. Since I am currently mentally ill
and since I can not nominate, that is what I am doing at this time." --
Olympiada: Teh amoral "Christian", in Message-ID:
<45e625dd$0$16280$8826...@free.teranews.com>
"You're like some kind of rabid attack-gerbil." -- Lionel Lauer to Joxer
in MID: <oorbs2pt3dc6b8t4a...@4ax.com>
"I say you are out of your fucking mind." -- Ying Guo, posting as
"SameAsB4" <exeb...@yanospamhoo.com>, tells PorchMonkey4Life, posting
as the same nick but a slightly different morph, the score, in MID:
<ka4lo.3...@news.alt.net>
"in the holy spirit i know you would satisfy every single person in a
room if you were the only person present." -- ~tanya, to Crazy Andy II,
in MID: <1167007805.9...@a3g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>
If you never read anything else in any of my sigs, read this:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15321167/
http://borealin.livejournal.com/15104.html
Or watch it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqxmPjB0WSs
Then, if you manage to read/watch all that, try this:
http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf
And Molly Ivins had a few choice words to say about it, weeks before:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/092906B.shtml
Here's Chris Floyd: Fatal Vision: The Deeper Evil Behind the Detainee
Bill: http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/100206A.shtml
"Q: What's the difference between the Vietnam War and the Iraq War?
A: George W. Bush had a plan to get out of the Vietnam War." -- Anon.
Thread where outing begins: http://tinyurl.com/hojf8
George Pickett Memorial Trophy, Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart,
and the Order of the Holey Sockpuppet winner <wfh...@hotmail.com> on
outing personal contact info in x-poasted subject lines:
"Plenty of people post under their real names and do not attempt to hide
their contact info. You are scared of being 'outed' because you are a
pathological abuser of usenet, and people rightly despise you for it.
You're afraid of being reported to the authorities or, better, visited
by a couple of guys with baseball bats. Other people don't have this
obsessive fear. Ward Hardman himself has posted plenty of personal
information - nothing that anyone else added was hidden in any way.
You're so fucking scared you've built up this whole sick mythology about
different categories of bad dudes who 'out' scum like you.
"Meanwhile you are the ugliest pigfucker in the universe. You are the
coward without ethics. You call me a 'newbie' - ha! what an asshole you
are. Those who want to remain anonymous do so. There is absolutely no
way you could identify me, not unless you had the sort of subpoena power
that only gets turned on for big-time terrorists. That's because I chose
to be anonymous. Some people don't. Only really stupid dicks like you
choose the sort of semi-anonymity which leaves you in constant fear.
"What a dickless wonder you are 'Snarky' you fat asshole."
-- in MID: <1156587081....@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>
"I am the only one who has outer filthed Ward" -- James C. "Crackhead"
Cracked voluntarily self-immolates, in MID:
1159678991.8...@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com
"When I told Abbie Hoffman that he was the first one who made me laugh
since Lenny Bruce died, Hoffman said, "Really? He was my god." The
combination of satirical irreverence and sense of justice that Bruce and
Hoffman shared was the real spirit behind the Yippies--a term I coined
to describe a phenomenon that already existed: an organic coalition of
stoned hippies and political activists who engaged in such actions as
throwing money on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange, then
explaining to reporters the meaning of that symbolism. Folksinger Phil
Ochs summed it up: "A demonstration should turn you on, not turn you
off." So when journalists link the Yippies with misleading bedfellows,
at best it's careless shorthand; at worst it's deliberate demonization.
Osama bin Laden wanted an aircraft to crash into the Pentagon. Abbie
Hoffman merely wanted to levitate it." -- Paul Krassner,
http://tinyurl.com/ehu3v
Father Haskell
wrote:
> The genetic forensic evidence is flawed for two reasons:
>
> (1) The specimens were likely further contaminated when gathered using
> bare hands from the bottom of limestone containers that had already
> been handled by those who had removed the bones and studied the
> external markings without wearing sterile gloves and gowns. This
> mishandling makes it almost certain that the ossuaries were
> contaminated with DNA not belonging to the bones that they once
> contained. Carefully handling with gloves and gowns to prevent
> contamination in the forensic laboratory is too late when there has
> been contamination in the field. This would be a likely reason for
> the non-match that was not given any consideration in the
> presentation.
>
> (2) Appropriate positive controls were not done (or done but negative
> and with this negative information possibly purposely withheld to
> deceive). Jesus and Mary(Maria) should have the same mitochondrial
> DNA as should Mary (Maria) and Matthew (theorized maternal relative of
> Maria) if indeed the speculation is correct.
>
>
> Name one other ossuary besided Magdalene that should also contain
> mitochondrial DNA different from Mary (Maria) if this truly were the
> tomb of Mary's maternal relatives in the manner that the producers of
> the Discovery Channel documentary speculate.
Virgin birth (monoploidy)? Same DNA as his mom?
Jesus was a girl.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > The genetic forensic evidence is flawed for two reasons:
> >
> > (1) The specimens were likely further contaminated when gathered using
> > bare hands from the bottom of limestone containers that had already
> > been handled by those who had removed the bones and studied the
> > external markings without wearing sterile gloves and gowns. This
> > mishandling makes it almost certain that the ossuaries were
> > contaminated with DNA not belonging to the bones that they once
> > contained. Carefully handling with gloves and gowns to prevent
> > contamination in the forensic laboratory is too late when there has
> > been contamination in the field. This would be a likely reason for
> > the non-match that was not given any consideration in the
> > presentation.
> >
> > (2) Appropriate positive controls were not done (or done but negative
> > and with this negative information possibly purposely withheld to
> > deceive). Jesus and Mary(Maria) should have the same mitochondrial
> > DNA as should Mary (Maria) and Matthew (theorized maternal relative of
> > Maria) if indeed the speculation is correct.
> >
> > For the genetic experts out there:
> >
> > mitochondrial DNA different from Mary (Maria) if this truly were the
> > tomb of Mary's maternal relatives in the manner that the producers of
> > the Discovery Channel documentary speculate.
>
> Virgin birth (monoploidy)?
In vitro fertilization and implantation by the Holy Spirit.
> Same DNA as his mom?
No. DNA reengineered by the Holy Spirit.
> Jesus was a girl.
No. Jesus is the risen Man, the one and only begotten Son of GOD,
Creator of heaven and earth, Author of all reality (including the
alternate ones). HE is "KING of kings and LORD of lords." (Revelation
19:16)
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May you and others convicted by the Holy Spirit not be stricken as
dear Bob Pastorio, who remains in my prayers, has tragically been:
http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/4211.html
However, GOD's will be done and not my will.
Marana tha
Father Haskell
Then Mary was a man.
> Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
> May you and others convicted by the Holy Spirit not be stricken as
> dear Bob Pastorio, who remains in my prayers, has tragically been:
"First, harm not." Ever heard that one before? Doctor?
Father Haskell
> 15 Mar 2007 04:05:12 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <l...@thetruth.com> licked the point of a #2 Yellow Pencil, and
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >It remains my choice to continue to receive the guidance of the Holy
> >Spirit in everything I say, do, and write.
>
> >The Holy Spirit is GOD:
>
> Son, and Holy Spirit? If you're settling for just one of the three
> (the Holy Spirit) you're letting yourself be sold short.
The holey spirit is 1/5, if you count Santa and the Easter Bunny.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Such would be a question coming from mind of "the man of
lawlessness" (2 Thessalonians 2):
http://abchung.livejournal.com/986.html?thread=8154#t8154
> Exactly how does the holy ghost use his prick to conceive someone else's
> child?
Would suggest you read up on "in vitro fertilization."
> Or is it the son of god AND and the son of the holy ghost? Myths
> can be so confusing.
Such is the state of mind of the man of lawlessness.
Without the LORD there can be only confusion.
HE is the Source of all knowledge and wisdom:
http://abchung.livejournal.com/986.html?thread=6362#t6362
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Putting HIM off can have dire consequences as dear convicted neighbor
Bob Pastorio, who remains in my prayers, has tragically discovered:
http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/4211.html
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
No.
> > Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> >
> > May you and others convicted by the Holy Spirit not be stricken as
> > dear Bob Pastorio, who remains in my prayers, has tragically been:
> >
> > http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/4211.html
> "First, harm not."
Before GOD destroys you, may you wisely surrender to HIM by publicly
declaring with your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
> Ever heard that one before?
Yes.
> Doctor?
Yes.
GOD's will be done and not my will.
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Putting HIM off can have dire consequences as dear convicted neighbor
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> >It remains my choice to continue to receive the guidance of the Holy
> >Spirit in everything I say, do, and write.
> >
> >The Holy Spirit is GOD:
>
Mathematically, there is no way to lessen an infinite Being.
> Remember the Trinity?
No.
> Father, Son, and Holy Spirit?
GOD in three Persons.
> If you're settling for just one of the three
> (the Holy Spirit) you're letting yourself be sold short.
Salvation is to be had only through faith in LORD Jesus Christ.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life..." -- LORD Jesus Christ
Amen ! ! ! Laus Deo ! ! ! Marana tha ! ! ! ! ! ! !
This victory belongs to GOD whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind,
and strength:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp
Reverently fear GOD and dread nothing (especially not cancer of
unknown origin) that is of this world"
http://TruthRUS.org/DreadNought
May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by publicly confessing with
your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
Putting HIM off can have dire consequences as dear convicted neighbor
Bob Pastorio, who remains in my prayers, has tragically discovered:
http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/4211.html
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>
> >> >
> >> >Putting HIM off can have dire consequences as dear convicted neighbor
> >> >Bob Pastorio, who remains in my prayers, has tragically discovered:
> >> >
> >> >http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/4211.html
>
Truth threatens the untruthful.
> >>
> >> Oh, enough of that nonsense, you attention-whoring ghoul.
> >
> >Name-calling simply shows that you remain convicted by the Holy
> >Spirit:
> >
> >http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> >
> >> It remains indeterminate whether or not one's lack of faith (or one's
> >> ongoing faith) has any specific bearing on what kind of illnesses one
> >> receives in life.
> >
> >LORD Almighty GOD remains sovereign as the Author of all reality
> >(including the alternate ones).
>
> Then you have no authority, or special knowledge of the illnesses,
> or C. o. D.s of any of the people on your lits.
It remains my choice to continue to receive the guidance of the Holy
Spirit in everything I say, do, and write.
> Buh-bye, cupcake. It is my recollection that Jesus the Christ
> forgave all his enemies from the cross just before he died.
The forgiveness is for sinners who have wisely chosen to place their
faith in HIM as their LORD, Savior, and GOD upon believing that HE
died on the cross and rose on that fantastic third day saving us from
our deadly sins.
> Since you do not know when the hour cometh, you might find
> yourself in deep Kim-Chee.
We, the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ, are forgiven and have eternal
life.
For these reasons, we are ready for the annihilation of this accursed
world and the ushering in of a new heaven, a new earth, and a new
Jerusalem.
Marana tha
Father Haskell
Then neither one ever existed.
> > > Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
>
> > >http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
> > > May you and others convicted by the Holy Spirit not be stricken as
> > > dear Bob Pastorio, who remains in my prayers, has tragically been:
>
> > >http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/4211.html
> > "First, harm not."
>
> Before GOD destroys you, may you wisely surrender to HIM by publicly
> declaring with your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
>
> > Ever heard that one before?
>
> Yes.
Hippocratic oath.
You know, the one where you swear by the pagan gods?
> > Doctor?
>
> Yes.
Fraud.
> GOD's will be done and not my will.
>
> Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
> Putting HIM off can have dire consequences as dear convicted neighbor
> Bob Pastorio, who remains in my prayers, has tragically discovered:
>
> http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/4211.html
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung
> Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USAhttp://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
Father Haskell
wrote:
Jesus' daddy was a turkey baster?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Such is the non-existent logic of the man of lawlessness (2
Thessalonians 2).
> > > > Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
> >
> > > >http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> >
> > > > May you and others convicted by the Holy Spirit not be stricken as
> > > > dear Bob Pastorio, who remains in my prayers, has tragically been:
> >
> > > >http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/4211.html
> > > "First, harm not."
> >
> > Before GOD destroys you, may you wisely surrender to HIM by publicly
> > declaring with your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
> >
> > > Ever heard that one before?
> >
> > Yes.
>
> Hippocratic oath.
>
> You know, the one where you swear by the pagan gods?
Primum non nocere is different from the Hippocratic oath:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/hippocrates.asp
> > > Doctor?
> >
> > Yes.
>
> Fraud.
Name-calling simply shows that you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit
and lost:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
No.
Your vocabulary word for the day is "conception."
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
You would be wise not to follow Bob Pastorio's example of putting off
surrendering to HIM:
http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/4211.html
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > The genetic forensic evidence is flawed for two reasons:
> >
> > (1) The specimens were likely further contaminated when gathered using
> > bare hands from the bottom of limestone containers that had already
> > been handled by those who had removed the bones and studied the
> > external markings without wearing sterile gloves and gowns. This
> > mishandling makes it almost certain that the ossuaries were
> > contaminated with DNA not belonging to the bones that they once
> > contained. Carefully handling with gloves and gowns to prevent
> > contamination in the forensic laboratory is too late when there has
> > been contamination in the field. This would be a likely reason for
> > the non-match that was not given any consideration in the
> > presentation.
> >
> > (2) Appropriate positive controls were not done (or done but negative
> > and with this negative information possibly purposely withheld to
> > deceive). Jesus and Mary(Maria) should have the same mitochondrial
> > DNA as should Mary (Maria) and Matthew (theorized maternal relative of
> > Maria) if indeed the speculation is correct.
> >
> > For the genetic experts out there:
> >
> > Name one other ossuary besides Magdalene that should also contain
> > mitochondrial DNA different from Mary (Maria) if this truly were the
> > tomb of Mary's maternal relatives in the manner that the producers of
> > the Discovery Channel documentary speculate.
> >
> > --
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> > http://gtalumni.org/Publications/magazine/win91/chung.html
>
> It should also be noted that chissiling out a rock tomb is a highly
> labor-intense task and only the very rich could afford such a luxury!
Correct.
> In no way would a poor carpenter end up in such a rich man's tomb!
"With man this is impossible but with GOD all things are possible." --
LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 19:26)
Amen.
> The whole story makes no sense.
It remains possible that this is the family tomb for the blood
relatives of the Biblical Jesus of Nazareth even if HIS bones were
never kept there.
> There were a lot of people then who
> were named Jesus and even Mary---even rich ones!
Correct.
Would invite you to join the on-line discussion about the tomb here:
http://abchung.livejournal.com
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
can love our neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a whole lot
more, dear friend Charles whom I love unconditionally.
Don Kirkman
article <1174064891.2...@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>:
>convicted neighbor Haskell wrote:
[. . .]
>> > Before GOD destroys you, may you wisely surrender to HIM by publicly
>> > declaring with your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
>> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
>> > > Ever heard that one before?
>> > Yes.
>> Hippocratic oath.
>> You know, the one where you swear by the pagan gods?
>Primum non nocere is different from the Hippocratic oath:
>http://HeartMDPhD.com/hippocrates.asp
[Begin Chung version]
I swear to God to keep according to my ability and my judgment the
following Oath:
To consider dear to me as my parents him who taught me this art; to live
in common with him and if necessary share my goods with him; to look
upon his children as my own brothers, to teach them this art if they so
desire without fee or written promise; to impart to my sons and the sons
of the master who taught me and the disciples who have enrolled
themselves and have agreed to the rules of the profession, but to these
alone, the precepts and the instruction. I will prescribe regimen for
the good of my patients according to my ability and my judgment and
never do harm to anyone. To please no one will I prescribe a deadly
drug, nor give advice which may cause his death. Nor will I give a woman
a pessary to procure abortion. But I will preserve the purity of my life
and my art. I will not cut for stone, even for patients in whom the
disease is manifest; I will leave this operation to be performed by
practitioners (specialists in this art). In every house where I come I
will enter only for the good of my patients, keeping myself far from all
intentional ill-doing and all seduction, and especially from the
pleasures of love with women or with men, be they free or slaves. All
that may come to my knowledge in the exercise of my profession or
outside my profession or in daily commerce with men, which ought not be
spread abroad, I will keep secret and will never reveal. If I keep this
oath faithfully, may I enjoy my life and practice my art, respected by
all men and in all times; but if I swerve from it or violate it, may the
reverse be my lot.
Hippocrates of Cos
[End]
[Begin MIT version]
By Hippocrates
Written 400 B.C.E
Translated by Francis Adams
I SWEAR by Apollo the physician, and Aesculapius, and Health, and
All-heal, and all the gods and goddesses, that, according to my ability
and judgment, I will keep this Oath and this stipulation- to reckon him
who taught me this Art equally dear to me as my parents, to share my
substance with him, and relieve his necessities if required; to look
upon his offspring in the same footing as my own brothers, and to teach
them this art, if they shall wish to learn it, without fee or
stipulation; and that by precept, lecture, and every other mode of
instruction, I will impart a knowledge of the Art to my own sons, and
those of my teachers, and to disciples bound by a stipulation and oath
according to the law of medicine, but to none others. I will follow that
system of regimen which, according to my ability and judgment, I
consider for the benefit of my patients, and abstain from whatever is
deleterious and mischievous. I will give no deadly medicine to any one
if asked, nor suggest any such counsel; and in like manner I will not
give to a woman a pessary to produce abortion. With purity and with
holiness I will pass my life and practice my Art. I will not cut persons
laboring under the stone, but will leave this to be done by men who are
practitioners of this work. Into whatever houses I enter, I will go into
them for the benefit of the sick, and will abstain from every voluntary
act of mischief and corruption; and, further from the seduction of
females or males, of freemen and slaves. Whatever, in connection with my
professional practice or not, in connection with it, I see or hear, in
the life of men, which ought not to be spoken of abroad, I will not
divulge, as reckoning that all such should be kept secret. While I
continue to keep this Oath unviolated, may it be granted to me to enjoy
life and the practice of the art, respected by all men, in all times!
But should I trespass and violate this Oath, may the reverse be my lot!
[End]
http://classics.mit.edu/Hippocrates/hippooath.html
Truth may be simple, but it's often elusive.
--
Don Kirkman
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
It is.
> , but it's often elusive.
Not for the discerning who know that without GOD, an oath has no
meaning.
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by publicly declaring with
your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
Putting HIM off can have dire consequences as dear convicted neighbor
Don Kirkman
>convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Truth may be simple
>It is.
>> , but it's often elusive.
>Not for the discerning who know that without GOD, an oath has no
>meaning.
And with God oaths seem to be forbidden:
"But above all, my brethren, do not swear, either by heaven or by earth
or with any other oath, but let your yes be yes and your no be no, that
you may not fall under condemnation." James 5:12
Clearly you remain convicted by the Scriptures.
And once again you are convicted of falsehood by changing texts you
pretend to be quoting.
--
Don Kirkman
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >> Truth may be simple
>
> >It is.
>
> >> , but it's often elusive.
>
> >Not for the discerning who know that without GOD, an oath has no
> >meaning.
>
> And with God oaths seem to be forbidden:
>
> "But above all, my brethren, do not swear, either by heaven or by earth
> or with any other oath, but let your yes be yes and your no be no, that
> you may not fall under condemnation." James 5:12
>
> Clearly you remain convicted by the Scriptures.
Not for those with hearts made discerning by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/discern.asp
Suggested reading:
Romans 13.
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> And once again you are convicted of falsehood by changing texts you
> pretend to be quoting.
Without the LORD, your judgment is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
These victories belong to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul,
mind, and strength:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp
Reverently fear GOD and dread nothing (especially not your heart
disease) that is of this world:
http://TruthRUS.org/DreadNought
May you wisely surrender to HIM by publicly declaring with your mouth
that "Jesus is LORD:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
Behold in shock and awe what happens to those who put off surrendering
to HIM:
http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/4211.html
Will continue to pray for Bob Pastorio and for you dear neighbor Don,
whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Jesus' everlasting love,
Father Haskell
wrote:
>
> Your vocabulary word for the day is "conception."
Yours is "fourteen year old hooker."
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> >
> > Your vocabulary word for the day is "conception."
>
> Yours is "fourteen year old hooker."
Your concept for the day is "plural."
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Andrew <><
Al
>
> Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> http://EmoryCardiology.com
>
Clearly, you continue to turn people off to your jesus, ass hole.
Father Haskell
wrote:
> convicted neighbor Haskell wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8d5cf788ffc5f636?
>
> > > Your vocabulary word for the day is "conception."
>
> > Yours is "fourteen year old hooker."
>
> Your concept for the day is "plural."
Yours is "Joseph was the world's greatest cuckold, and so are
bible-believing christians." Understand that, and you are on the
road to mental health.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Haskell wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8d5cf788ffc5f636?
> >
> > > > Your vocabulary word for the day is "conception."
> >
> > > Yours is "fourteen year old hooker."
> >
> > Your concept for the day is "plural."
>
> Yours is "Joseph was the world's greatest cuckold, and so are
> bible-believing christians." Understand that, and you are on the
> road to mental health.
Without the LORD, your opinions are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by declaring publicly with
your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
Andrew <><
Father Haskell
wrote:
> convicted neighbor Haskell wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted neighbor Haskell wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8d5cf788ffc5f636?
>
> > > > > Your vocabulary word for the day is "conception."
>
> > > > Yours is "fourteen year old hooker."
>
> > > Your concept for the day is "plural."
>
> > Yours is "Joseph was the world's greatest cuckold, and so are
> > bible-believing christians." Understand that, and you are on the
> > road to mental health.
>
> Without the LORD, your opinions are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
With the lord or without the lord, Mary still got shtupped by a
member of the Roman legion on payday.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Yours would be dark meaningless dreams of the man of lawlessness (2
Thessalonians 2).
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by declaring publicly with
your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
Tragically, dear Bob Pastorio, who remains in my prayers, now
unwittingly serves as a warning to those who would put off the Holy
Spirit:
http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/4211.html
TheUnconvictedBookman
> neighbor TheBookman wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> convicted neighbor Archie Leach wrote:
Name-calling simply shows that you are lost.
>>
>> "Convicted", cAndy?
>
> Yes, by the Holy Spirit.
No, since the Holy Spirit doesn't poast here. Ergo, you are k'laming to
speak for the Holy Spirit, which is nothing but a blasphemous lie.
>
>> Only by your egotistical hatred.
>
> It remains my choice to continue to die to self daily in order to
> become a new creature in HIM daily. In this way, those who are the
> brethren of LORD Jesus Christ forsake our egos.
Since your actions are clearly driven by your ego, what you said is untrue.
>
>> There is no sin in disagreeing with you.
>
> Correct.
Then the Holy Spirit would never "convict" someone who disagrees with you.
Thanks for demonstrating your ego and dishonesty.
>
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> Which spirit are you in, cAndy?
>
> It remains my choice to receive the guidance of the Holy Spirit in
> everything I say, do, and write.
More blasphemous k'lames about speaking for the Holy Spirit.
>
>> Vodka, perhaps?
>
> No.
Well, the "spirit" which moves you is clearly unassociated with God. Your
egotism demonstrates that much.
>
>> What makes vodka holy?
>
> Nothing.
Ah, so now you are asserting that God is not omnipotent, and cannot make
vodka holy. Thanks for clearing your beliefs up.
>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by publicly declaring with
>>>>>your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
>>>>>
>>>>>http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
>>>>>
>>>>>Putting HIM off can have dire consequences as dear convicted neighbor
>>>>>Bob Pastorio, who remains in my prayers, has tragically discovered:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/4211.html
>>>>
>>>> Oh, enough of that nonsense, you attention-whoring ghoul.
>>>
>>> Name-calling simply shows that you remain convicted by the Holy
>>> Spirit:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Nice hate list you have there, Andy. Totally unrelated to God, Jesus, and
the Holy Spirit, of course, and merely the work of your own ego, and thus
impotent.
>
>> You are NOT the "holy spirit"
>
> Correct.
And yet, you k'lame to speak with the voice of the Holy Spirit, which
places you directly into the role, usurping the Holy Spirit's authority.
>
>> , ko0kboi. HTH.
>
> Name-calling simply shows that you are lost:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp
Incorrect. Your personal pronouncements are meaningless, and your ko0ky
blasphemy establishes that you are properly described as a ko0k.
>
>>>
>>>> It remains indeterminate whether or not one's lack of faith (or one's
>>>> ongoing faith) has any specific bearing on what kind of illnesses one
>>>> receives in life.
>>>
>>> LORD Almighty GOD remains sovereign as the Author of all reality
>>> (including the alternate ones).
>>
>> Assuming he exists.
>
> You really have no other explanation for what you have witnessed, have
> experienced, and will experience.
Ah, now you are k'laming to practice witchcraft. No surprise there,
really.
>
>> That being the case, he will no doubt judge you for
>> for usurping his authoritah!
>
> Without the LORD, your fantasies are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
Ecclesiastes doesn't say that, liar. Or do you mean that was Ecclesiastes,
as re-written by _you_, to serve _your_ purposes? how egotistical, the way
you misuse the word of God.
>
>>>
>>>> Only GOD knows that.
>>>
>>> Yes, HE is omniscient.
>>>
>>>> YOU are not GOD.
>>>
>>> Correct.
>>
>> Then why do you keep actling like you are?
>
> Without the LORD, your opinions are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
Tsk, Ecclesiastes doesn't say that, either.
>
>>>
>>> It remains my choice to continue to receive the guidance of the Holy
>>> Spirit in everything I say, do, and write.
>>
>> Too bad that your speech, actions, and writings only reflect yourself, and
>> not any spirits, holy or otherwise (except, perhaps, teh vodka)
>
> Without the LORD, your beliefs are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
My, my, Ecclesiastes doesn't say that, either. But thanks for confirming
the truth of what i said with your little dodge.
>
>>>
>>> The Holy Spirit is GOD:
>>>
>>> http://abchung.livejournal.com/986.html?thread=730#t730
>>>
>>> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>>
>> If that is the case, why are you so bitter, judgemental, unforgiving,
>> unchristian, uncharitable, unloving, and hate-driven, cAndy?
>
> Without the LORD, your judgments are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
<Shakes head> Ecclesiastes doesn't say that, either. Besides, that wasn't
a "judgement", merely an observation.
"Ye shall know them by their fruits" Matthew 7:16. your fruits are as i
have described above, Andy.
>
> This victory
What "victory"? Oh, I see - you are making an empty k'lame.
> belongs to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul,
> mind, and strength:
That's because you, by all evidence given by you, equate yourself with
"god". Thanks for giving us[tinu] a demonstrating your self-love, and
showing its exclusivity, as to be expected from one who worships himself as
a god.
>
> http://HeartMD <snip ko0klink>
>
> Reverently fear GOD
I don't fear you, Andy, because you do _not_ speak with God's voice, and
are not even remotely godlike.
> and dread nothing (especially not cancer of
> unknown origin) that is of this world:
I don't fear your "cancer" delusions, that's for sure.
>
> http://Truth<snip ko0klink>
> May you wisely surrender to HIM by publicly declaring with your mouth
> that "Jesus is LORD:"
I don'[t take orders from a blasphemous ko0k like you, Andy.
>
> http://HeartMDPh<Snip ko0klink>
>
> May GOD, in HIS infinite grace and mercy, bless dear neighbor Bob
> Pastorio, who has been stricken since putting off surrendering to
> HIM:
His wise decision to not take your personal, unholy orders have nothing to
do with his medical direction, and your faux prayer is merely it's own
reward.
<Snip link>
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Heh, it's obvious that the only love you have is directed at yourself,
especially given your unChristlike tendency to order people around, and
k'lame to speak with the voice of god.
But it's no surprise that you find your self-love "amazing". Jesus would
weep at your display, were he here.
ESL!
--
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Kazoo Konspirator #668 (The Neighbor of the Beast)
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BARBARA WOODHOUSE MEMORIAL DOG-WHISTLE AWARD
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"I'd love to kill you in a ring" - Bartmo gets all touchy-feely
"****SPV....... So yes I am an idiot."
"ASK THE NWS, YOUR TAX DOLLAR GOES TO THEM NOT TO DR.TURI."
- Mr. Turi explains how to accurately predict hurricanes
"Bookman is yet another Usenet fignuten, meaning naysayer and/or
rusemaster of their incest cloned Third Reich. In other words, you're
communicating with an intellectual if not a biological clone of
Hitler."
- Brad Guth tries to wax "scientific", but invokes Godwin, instead.
WWFSMD?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>> convicted neighbor Archie Leach wrote:
>
> Name-calling simply shows that you are lost.
Correct.
Those convicted by the Holy Spirit are lost:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp
> >>
> >> "Convicted", cAndy?
> >
> > Yes, by the Holy Spirit.
>
> No, since the Holy Spirit doesn't poast here.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling
you to unwittingly demonstrate your lack of logic.
> Ergo, you are k'laming to
> speak for the Holy Spirit, which is nothing but a blasphemous lie.
Actually, the Holy Spirit does not speak but guides.
HE is the Great Counselor.
It remains my choice to continue to receive the guidance of the Holy
Spirit in everything I say, do, and write.
> >
> >> Only by your egotistical hatred.
> >
> > It remains my choice to continue to die to self daily in order to
> > become a new creature in HIM daily. In this way, those who are the
> > brethren of LORD Jesus Christ forsake our egos.
>
> Since your actions are clearly driven by your ego, what you said is untrue.
Without the LORD, your perceptions are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
> >
> >> There is no sin in disagreeing with you.
> >
> > Correct.
>
> Then the Holy Spirit would never "convict" someone who disagrees with you.
That would be your logical error.
> Thanks for demonstrating your ego and dishonesty.
That would be your false belief arising from your logical error.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling
you to unwittingly serve as an example of the lack of wisdom and lack
of knowledge in those like yourself (2 Thessalonians 2).
> >
> >>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>
> >> Which spirit are you in, cAndy?
> >
> > It remains my choice to receive the guidance of the Holy Spirit in
> > everything I say, do, and write.
>
> More blasphemous k'lames about speaking for the Holy Spirit.
Your logical error again.
> >
> >> Vodka, perhaps?
> >
> > No.
>
> Well, the "spirit" which moves you is clearly unassociated with God. Your
> egotism demonstrates that much.
Your false belief again arising from logical errors.
> >> What makes vodka holy?
> >
> > Nothing.
>
> Ah, so now you are asserting that God is not omnipotent, and cannot make
> vodka holy. Thanks for clearing your beliefs up.
Your logical error again.
> >>>>>May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by publicly declaring with
> >>>>>your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
> >>>>>
> >>>>>http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Putting HIM off can have dire consequences as dear convicted neighbor
> >>>>>Bob Pastorio, who remains in my prayers, has tragically discovered:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/4211.html
> >>>>
> >>>> Oh, enough of that nonsense, you attention-whoring ghoul.
> >>>
> >>> Name-calling simply shows that you remain convicted by the Holy
> >>> Spirit:
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
> Nice hate list you have there, Andy.
Prayer lists are not hate lists.
Where there is hate there can be no prayer.
> Totally unrelated to God, Jesus, and
> the Holy Spirit, of course, and merely the work of your own ego, and thus
> impotent.
Your false beliefs arising from your logical errors.
> >
> >> You are NOT the "holy spirit"
> >
> > Correct.
>
> And yet, you k'lame to speak with the voice of the Holy Spirit, which
> places you directly into the role, usurping the Holy Spirit's authority.
Your continued false beliefs arising from continued logical errors.
> >
> >> , ko0kboi. HTH.
> >
> > Name-calling simply shows that you are lost:
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp
>
> Incorrect.
Truth is correct.
> Your personal pronouncements are meaningless, and your ko0ky
> blasphemy establishes that you are properly described as a ko0k.
Name-calling simply shows that you remain convicted by the Holy
Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> >>>
> >>>> It remains indeterminate whether or not one's lack of faith (or one's
> >>>> ongoing faith) has any specific bearing on what kind of illnesses one
> >>>> receives in life.
> >>>
> >>> LORD Almighty GOD remains sovereign as the Author of all reality
> >>> (including the alternate ones).
> >>
> >> Assuming he exists.
> >
> > You really have no other explanation for what you have witnessed, have
> > experienced, and will experience.
>
> Ah, now you are k'laming to practice witchcraft. No surprise there,
> really.
More false belief arising from logical errors.
> >
> >> That being the case, he will no doubt judge you for
> >> for usurping his authoritah!
> >
> > Without the LORD, your fantasies are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
>
> Ecclesiastes doesn't say that
Correct. It remains a true understanding of Ecclesiastes that comes
from having a heart made discerning by the Holy Spirit.
> , liar.
It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully.
> Or do you mean that was Ecclesiastes,
> as re-written by _you_, to serve _your_ purposes? how egotistical, the way
> you misuse the word of God.
Without the LORD, your guesses are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
> >>>> Only GOD knows that.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, HE is omniscient.
> >>>
> >>>> YOU are not GOD.
> >>>
> >>> Correct.
> >>
> >> Then why do you keep actling like you are?
> >
> > Without the LORD, your opinions are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
>
> Tsk, Ecclesiastes doesn't say that, either.
See above.
> >
> >>>
> >>> It remains my choice to continue to receive the guidance of the Holy
> >>> Spirit in everything I say, do, and write.
> >>
> >> Too bad that your speech, actions, and writings only reflect yourself, and
> >> not any spirits, holy or otherwise (except, perhaps, teh vodka)
> >
> > Without the LORD, your beliefs are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
>
> My, my, Ecclesiastes doesn't say that, either. But thanks for confirming
> the truth of what i said with your little dodge.
See above.
> >
> >>>
> >>> The Holy Spirit is GOD:
> >>>
> >>> http://abchung.livejournal.com/986.html?thread=730#t730
> >>>
> >>> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
> >>
> >> If that is the case, why are you so bitter, judgemental, unforgiving,
> >> unchristian, uncharitable, unloving, and hate-driven, cAndy?
> >
> > Without the LORD, your judgments are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
>
> <Shakes head> Ecclesiastes doesn't say that, either.
See above.
> Besides, that wasn't a "judgement", merely an observation.
Clearly you are unable to separate judgment from observation. Those
who are of this world automatically judge what they observe.
> "Ye shall know them by their fruits" Matthew 7:16. your fruits are as i
> have described above, Andy.
Without the LORD, your beliefs are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
> >
> > This victory
>
> What "victory"? Oh, I see - you are making an empty k'lame.
Without the LORD, your fantasies remain meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
> > belongs to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul,
> > mind, and strength:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp
> That's because you, by all evidence given by you, equate yourself with
> "god".
Without the LORD, your beliefs remain meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
> Thanks for giving us[tinu] a demonstrating your self-love, and
> showing its exclusivity, as to be expected from one who worships himself as
> a god.
You are projecting.
Such is the behavior of "the man of lawlessness" as described in 2
Thessalonians 2.
"The atheist is the man of lawlessness." -- Holy Spirit.
Amen.
> >
> > http://HeartMD <snip ko0klink>
>
> >
> > Reverently fear GOD
>
> I don't fear you, Andy, because you do _not_ speak with God's voice, and
> are not even remotely godlike.
I am not GOD.
Truth is simple.
Bottomline: You are untruthful.
> > and dread nothing (especially not cancer of
> > unknown origin) that is of this world:
http://TruthRUS.org/DreadNought
> I don't fear your "cancer" delusions, that's for sure.
It is clear from your language that your heart is filled with dread.
> > May you wisely surrender to HIM by publicly declaring with your mouth
> > that "Jesus is LORD:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
> I don'[t take orders from a blasphemous ko0k like you, Andy.
Prayers are not orders.
> > May GOD, in HIS infinite grace and mercy, bless dear neighbor Bob
> > Pastorio, who has been stricken since putting off surrendering to
> > HIM:
http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/4211.html
> His wise decision to not take your personal, unholy orders have nothing to
> do with his medical direction, and your faux prayer is merely it's own
> reward.
"The wages of sin is death." -- Holy Spirit.
Amen.
May you be wiser than dear Bob Pastorio, who remains in my prayers, by
surrendering to HIM by publicly declaring with your mouth that "Jesus
is LORD:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
Andrew <><
Art Deco
The Tholen is strong with this clown.
Lost any more Google Groups accounts lately, Andy?
--
Supreme Leader of the Brainwashed Followers of Art Deco
"To err is human, to cover it up is Weasel" -- Dogbert
Cary Kittrell
> neighbor Widdershins wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > >> >
> > >> >Putting HIM off can have dire consequences as dear convicted neighbor
> > >> >Bob Pastorio, who remains in my prayers, has tragically discovered:
> > >> >
> > >> >http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/4211.html
> >
> > Thinly veiled, questionably Christian threat noted.
>
> Truth threatens the untruthful.
You claim only those who "[Put] HIM off" get terminal
diseases?
-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > neighbor Widdershins wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Putting HIM off can have dire consequences as dear convicted neighbor
> > > >> >Bob Pastorio, who remains in my prayers, has tragically discovered:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/4211.html
> > >
> > > Thinly veiled, questionably Christian threat noted.
> >
> > Truth threatens the untruthful.
>
> You claim only those who "[Put] HIM off" get terminal
> diseases?
No.
You are welcome to read what is plainly written as many times as you
need for understanding.
May GOD bless you.
Prayerfully in Jesus' ever-lasting love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
May HIS immortal brethren pray for our dying mortal friends and
neighbors:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Especially dear Bob(this one) Pastorio:
http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/4211.html
http://pics.livejournal.com/bobs_amanuensis/pic/0000z24f/g1
Cary Kittrell
> convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > neighbor Widdershins wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > >
> > > > [...]
> > > >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >Putting HIM off can have dire consequences as dear convicted neighbor
> > > > >> >Bob Pastorio, who remains in my prayers, has tragically discovered:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/4211.html
> > > >
> > > > Thinly veiled, questionably Christian threat noted.
> > >
> > > Truth threatens the untruthful.
> >
> > You claim only those who "[Put] HIM off" get terminal
> > diseases?
>
> No.
>
> You are welcome to read what is plainly written as many times as you
> need for understanding.
Well, lessee here then...those who "[Put] HIM off" can get terminal
diseases, and those who do not "[Put] HIM off" can get terminal
diseases. Right?
-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > neighbor Widdershins wrote:
> > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > [...]
> > > > >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >Putting HIM off can have dire consequences as dear convicted neighbor
> > > > > >> >Bob Pastorio, who remains in my prayers, has tragically discovered:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/4211.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Thinly veiled, questionably Christian threat noted.
> > > >
> > > > Truth threatens the untruthful.
> > >
> > > You claim only those who "[Put] HIM off" get terminal
> > > diseases?
> >
> > No.
> >
> > You are welcome to read what is plainly written as many times as you
> > need for understanding.
>
> Well, lessee here then...those who "[Put] HIM off" can get terminal
> diseases, and those who do not "[Put] HIM off" can get terminal
> diseases. Right?
Wrong.
Those who choose to surrender, thereby turning away from sin, and
place their faith in LORD Jesus Christ to save them will be given
eternal life instead of death and may possibly have their time here on
earth extended to glorify HIM per HIS perfect will.
Eternal life is the opposite of death.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life..." -- LORD Jesus Christ.
Amen.
Condemned Flying Rat #42
ach...@emorycardiology.com says...
> Those who choose to surrender, thereby turning away from sin, and
> place their faith in LORD Jesus Christ to save them will be given
> eternal life instead of death and may possibly have their time here on
> earth extended to glorify HIM per HIS perfect will.
>
thrown into, dancing and hissing impatiently
Bob attacked Chung as a fraud and a quack. Chung hates him for that.
That is also why Chung posts spam and abuse to Bob's livejournal site
which they have deleted, and that just enrages Chung even more.
There is nothing remotely Christian about Andrew B Chung. He just uses
cut-and-paste quotations to use Christianity as a figleaf for his abuses
and failure as a physician.
> Andrew <><
Written fish is silent catfood >^..^<