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kumar

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Oct 22, 2006, 11:58:12 PM10/22/06
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Hello,

I have few questions as few aspects don't look to be logical.

We develop, introduce or intervene may things which may destruct us.

We get many disorders naturaly as normal body's mechanisms which look
destructive to us so we intervene.

Pathogens growths in body, if can lead to kill us and to kill
themselves along with us.

Cancer cells spread, if tends to kill us or kill themselves also along
with us.

How such "destructions along with self destruction" by us, by natural
disordered conditions, by pathogens, or by cancer cells be anticipated
by causing agents in view of "surrvival"? Can nature allow destruction
with "self destruction"?

Best wishes.

Codswallop

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Oct 23, 2006, 1:27:21 AM10/23/06
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Infections and cancer have been killing us since Adam wore short trousers so
I guess the answer is yes.


kumar

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Oct 23, 2006, 1:34:53 AM10/23/06
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Can't death by infection or cancer cells be due to some showiking
effects on their actute states or due to some weakness in us or due to
some adoption of unhealthfull practices and interventions by us?

Apoptosis (programmed cell death) is another thought , how self
destructions by cells can be anticipated?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Oct 23, 2006, 1:11:09 PM10/23/06
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LORD GOD Almighty remains sovereign over all things including those
things you have credited to Mother Nature. The latter is idolatry.

"The wages of sin is death." -- Holy Spirit

Amen.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f4dad7fe68478acf?

Kumar

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Oct 24, 2006, 8:04:42 AM10/24/06
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> kumar wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have few questions as few aspects don't look to be logical.
> >
> > We develop, introduce or intervene may things which may destruct us.
> >
> > We get many disorders naturaly as normal body's mechanisms which look
> > destructive to us so we intervene.
> >
> > Pathogens growths in body, if can lead to kill us and to kill
> > themselves along with us.
> >
> > Cancer cells spread, if tends to kill us or kill themselves also along
> > with us.
> >
> > How such "destructions along with self destruction" by us, by natural
> > disordered conditions, by pathogens, or by cancer cells be anticipated
> > by causing agents in view of "surrvival"? Can nature allow destruction
> > with "self destruction"?
>
> LORD GOD Almighty remains sovereign over all things including those
> things you have credited to Mother Nature. The latter is idolatry.
>
> "The wages of sin is death." -- Holy Spirit

Can LORD GOD Almighty is mediator of initiating self destruction?
Whether our new introductions and interventions, pathogen's and cancer
cells existance in our body are sin on their or our part?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Oct 25, 2006, 1:42:48 PM10/25/06
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Kumar wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > kumar wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I have few questions as few aspects don't look to be logical.
> > >
> > > We develop, introduce or intervene may things which may destruct us.
> > >
> > > We get many disorders naturaly as normal body's mechanisms which look
> > > destructive to us so we intervene.
> > >
> > > Pathogens growths in body, if can lead to kill us and to kill
> > > themselves along with us.
> > >
> > > Cancer cells spread, if tends to kill us or kill themselves also along
> > > with us.
> > >
> > > How such "destructions along with self destruction" by us, by natural
> > > disordered conditions, by pathogens, or by cancer cells be anticipated
> > > by causing agents in view of "surrvival"? Can nature allow destruction
> > > with "self destruction"?
> >
> > LORD GOD Almighty remains sovereign over all things including those
> > things you have credited to Mother Nature. The latter is idolatry.
> >
> > "The wages of sin is death." -- Holy Spirit
>
> Can LORD GOD Almighty is mediator of initiating self destruction?

LORD GOD Almighty will annihilate all who do not have HIS love in their
hearts:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Christ.asp

> Whether our new introductions and interventions, pathogen's and cancer
> cells existance in our body are sin on their or our part?

Those instruments of death are the means by which payment for the wages
of our sins are rendered on the physical body. There is also
annihilation of the soul on the LORD's day of judgement:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/175b5dc947a0781f?

May GOD in HIS infinite mercy and grace keep your heart beating to give
you time to understand this dear neighbor Kumar whom I love
unconditionally.

Al Klein

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Oct 25, 2006, 4:02:21 PM10/25/06
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On 25 Oct 2006 10:42:48 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:

>> Whether our new introductions and interventions, pathogen's and cancer
>> cells existance in our body are sin on their or our part?

>Those instruments of death are the means by which payment for the wages
>of our sins are rendered on the physical body. There is also
>annihilation of the soul on the LORD's day of judgement:

I think that alone, if included in a complaint, could result in your
inability to practice medicine in all 50 states. Witch-doctorism
isn't a recognized field of practice.
--
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"Every sensible man, every honest man, must hold the christian sect in horror. 'But what
shall we substitute in its place?' you say. What? A ferocious animal has sucked the
blood of my relatives. I tell you to rid yourselves of this beast and you ask me what
you shall put in its place?" - Voltaire
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Oct 25, 2006, 4:25:11 PM10/25/06
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Al Klein wrote after fleeing AUK in an act of cowardice:

> Andrew wrote:
>
> >> Whether our new introductions and interventions, pathogen's and cancer
> >> cells existance in our body are sin on their or our part?
>
> >Those instruments of death are the means by which payment for the wages
> >of our sins are rendered on the physical body. There is also
> >annihilation of the soul on the LORD's day of judgement:
>
> I think that alone, if included in a complaint, could result in your
> inability to practice medicine in all 50 states.

Without the LORD, your fantasies are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).

> Witch-doctorism isn't a recognized field of practice.

Correct:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/175b5dc947a0781f?

"I am the way, the truth, and the life ... " -- LORD Jesus Christ

Amen !

Laus Deo ! !

Marana tha ! ! !

Yes another victory belonging to GOD.

Again, your consolation prize is eternal life if you choose to
surrender:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?


May GOD in HIS infinite mercy and grace keep your heart beating to give

you time to understand this, dear neighbor Al whom I love

Cary Kittrell

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Oct 25, 2006, 4:30:08 PM10/25/06
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In article <1161807911....@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> writes:

{...}

>
> Again, your consolation prize is eternal life if you choose to
> surrender:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?

I'd say that under these terms, "consolation prize" is quite definitely
the phrase of choice.


-- cary

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Oct 25, 2006, 5:02:39 PM10/25/06
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Cary Kittrell wrote:

> Andrew writes:
>
> {...}
>
> >
> > Again, your consolation prize is eternal life if you choose to
> > surrender:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?
>
> I'd say that under these terms, "consolation prize" is quite definitely
> the phrase of choice.

Yes. It simply proves that LORD GOD Almighty is most assuredly,
without doubt, kind, just, and right:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/175b5dc947a0781f?

May GOD in HIS infinite mercy and grace keep your heart beating to give

you time to understand this, dear neighbor Cary whom I love
unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f4dad7fe68478acf?

>
> -- cary

Cary Kittrell

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Oct 25, 2006, 5:06:02 PM10/25/06
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In article <1161810159.4...@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> writes:
> Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > Andrew writes:
> >
> > {...}
> >
> > >
> > > Again, your consolation prize is eternal life if you choose to
> > > surrender:
> > >
> > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?
> >
> > I'd say that under these terms, "consolation prize" is quite definitely
> > the phrase of choice.
>
> Yes. It simply proves that LORD GOD Almighty is most assuredly,
> without doubt, kind, just, and right:

Um, you might want to check out the connotations of that phrase...


-- cary


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Oct 25, 2006, 5:25:59 PM10/25/06
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Cary Kittrell wrote:
> Andrew wrote:
> > Cary Kittrell wrote:

> > > Andrew wrote:
> > >
> > > {...}
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Again, your consolation prize is eternal life if you choose to
> > > > surrender:
> > > >
> > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?
> > >
> > > I'd say that under these terms, "consolation prize" is quite definitely
> > > the phrase of choice.
> >
> > Yes. It simply proves that LORD GOD Almighty is most assuredly,
> > without doubt, kind, just, and right:
>
> Um, you might want to check out the connotations of that phrase...

It checks out fine:

Kumar

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Oct 25, 2006, 9:37:26 PM10/25/06
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Kumar wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > kumar wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I have few questions as few aspects don't look to be logical.
> > > >
> > > > We develop, introduce or intervene may things which may destruct us.
> > > >
> > > > We get many disorders naturaly as normal body's mechanisms which look
> > > > destructive to us so we intervene.
> > > >
> > > > Pathogens growths in body, if can lead to kill us and to kill
> > > > themselves along with us.
> > > >
> > > > Cancer cells spread, if tends to kill us or kill themselves also along
> > > > with us.
> > > >
> > > > How such "destructions along with self destruction" by us, by natural
> > > > disordered conditions, by pathogens, or by cancer cells be anticipated
> > > > by causing agents in view of "surrvival"? Can nature allow destruction
> > > > with "self destruction"?
> > >
> > > LORD GOD Almighty remains sovereign over all things including those
> > > things you have credited to Mother Nature. The latter is idolatry.
> > >
> > > "The wages of sin is death." -- Holy Spirit
> >
> > Can LORD GOD Almighty is mediator of initiating self destruction?
>
> LORD GOD Almighty will annihilate all who do not have HIS love in their
> hearts:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Christ.asp
How then, it is justified; "LORD GOD Almighty is most assuredly,
without doubt, kind, just, and right"?

> > Whether our new introductions and interventions, pathogen's and cancer
> > cells existance in our body are sin on their or our part?
>
> Those instruments of death are the means by which payment for the wages
> of our sins are rendered on the physical body. There is also
> annihilation of the soul on the LORD's day of judgement:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/175b5dc947a0781f?
Alongwith competition for survival and for natural selection of
surrvival of fittest, there can also be mutual cooperation &
interdepance for mutual benefits and surrvival ?

How can we, pathogens or cancer cells can opt for resulted their "self
destruction" on destructing host? Will it not be against nature and
against survival?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Oct 26, 2006, 9:07:58 AM10/26/06
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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/175b5dc947a0781f?

> > > Whether our new introductions and interventions, pathogen's and cancer
> > > cells existance in our body are sin on their or our part?
> >
> > Those instruments of death are the means by which payment for the wages
> > of our sins are rendered on the physical body. There is also
> > annihilation of the soul on the LORD's day of judgement:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/175b5dc947a0781f?

> Alongwith competition for survival and for natural selection of
> surrvival of fittest, there can also be mutual cooperation &
> interdepance for mutual benefits and surrvival ?

Belief and faith in Mother Nature is idolatry.

> How can we, pathogens or cancer cells can opt for resulted their "self
> destruction" on destructing host? Will it not be against nature and
> against survival?

Again, belief and faith in Mother Nature is idolatry and this is sin
against GOD.

May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear

Kumar

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Oct 26, 2006, 9:38:42 AM10/26/06
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In some indication of some ancient relgions, even LORDGOD may go with
Nature only not against it?

" Symbiosis and evolution
The biologist Lynn Margulis, famous for the work on endosymbiosis,
contends that symbiosis is a major driving force behind evolution. *She
considers Darwin's notion of evolution, driven by competition, as
incomplete, and claims evolution is strongly based on co-operation,
interaction, and mutual dependence among organisms.* According to
Margulis and Sagan (1986), "Life did not take over the globe by combat,
but by networking." As in humans, organisms that cooperate with others
of their own or different species often outcompete those that don't.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbiosis "

Can bacterias, other pathogns ( may cancer cells also) be kept under
control, naturally without unnatural introductions and interventions?

Kumar

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Oct 27, 2006, 11:15:04 PM10/27/06
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It is somewhat indicative that bacterias may swith over to somewhat
sexual type reproduction i.e. Horizontal gene transfer or Bacterial
conjugation etc. when environment to them is unfavourable whereas may
multiply by replication or by asexual reproduction when environment is
availabilty ogf favourable..nutrients, optimal pH etc. Although Asexual
reproduction would seem a more efficient way to reproduce and avoids
all sorts of problems.
Perhaps sexual reproduction has kept in style because it provides a
mechanism to weed out harmful mutations that arise in the population
(through the recombination process of meiosis).An asexual population
tends to be genetically static.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Oct 28, 2006, 7:53:00 PM10/28/06
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The ancient religions were wrong.

> " Symbiosis and evolution
> The biologist Lynn Margulis, famous for the work on endosymbiosis,
> contends that symbiosis is a major driving force behind evolution. *She
> considers Darwin's notion of evolution, driven by competition, as
> incomplete, and claims evolution is strongly based on co-operation,
> interaction, and mutual dependence among organisms.* According to
> Margulis and Sagan (1986), "Life did not take over the globe by combat,
> but by networking." As in humans, organisms that cooperate with others
> of their own or different species often outcompete those that don't.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbiosis "

Cooperation happens only when GOD's love is present.

> Can bacterias, other pathogns ( may cancer cells also) be kept under
> control, naturally without unnatural introductions and interventions?

Without GOD's involvement, nothing would exist. Everything that exists
owe their existence to GOD's Son, LORD Jesus Christ:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/175b5dc947a0781f?

You would be wise receive eternal life by surrendering to HIM:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?

May GOD continue to keep your heart beating to give you time to
understand and act on this, dear neightbor Kumar whom I love

Kadaitcha Man

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Oct 28, 2006, 8:11:54 PM10/28/06
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Poo!

Bum!

Hee-hee!

Kumar

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Oct 29, 2006, 12:04:54 AM10/29/06
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Let us try to understand the concept--the logic behing any words, not
the words.


> > " Symbiosis and evolution
> > The biologist Lynn Margulis, famous for the work on endosymbiosis,
> > contends that symbiosis is a major driving force behind evolution. *She
> > considers Darwin's notion of evolution, driven by competition, as
> > incomplete, and claims evolution is strongly based on co-operation,
> > interaction, and mutual dependence among organisms.* According to
> > Margulis and Sagan (1986), "Life did not take over the globe by combat,
> > but by networking." As in humans, organisms that cooperate with others
> > of their own or different species often outcompete those that don't.
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbiosis "
>
> Cooperation happens only when GOD's love is present.

..and competition?


> > Can bacterias, other pathogns ( may cancer cells also) be kept under
> > control, naturally without unnatural introductions and interventions?
>
> Without GOD's involvement, nothing would exist. Everything that exists
> owe their existence to GOD's Son, LORD Jesus Christ:

Work done by Free will?


> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/175b5dc947a0781f?
>
> You would be wise receive eternal life by surrendering to HIM:

Yes. But we can try to understand concep--the logic, the true meaning
behing anything.

Kumar

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Oct 29, 2006, 12:07:34 AM10/29/06
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Repeating;

It is somewhat indicative that bacterias may swith over to somewhat
sexual type reproduction i.e. Horizontal gene transfer or Bacterial
conjugation etc. when environment to them is unfavourable whereas may
multiply by replication or by asexual reproduction when environment is
availabilty ogf favourable..nutrients, optimal pH etc. Although Asexual

reproduction would seem a more efficient way to reproduce and avoids
all sorts of problems.
Perhaps sexual reproduction has kept in style because it provides a
mechanism to weed out harmful mutations that arise in the population
(through the recombination process of meiosis).An asexual population
tends to be genetically static.

> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/175b5dc947a0781f?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Oct 30, 2006, 7:36:56 AM10/30/06
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It is wiser to know the truth.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ

Amen ! Laus Deo ! ! Marana tha ! ! !

> > > " Symbiosis and evolution


> > > The biologist Lynn Margulis, famous for the work on endosymbiosis,
> > > contends that symbiosis is a major driving force behind evolution. *She
> > > considers Darwin's notion of evolution, driven by competition, as
> > > incomplete, and claims evolution is strongly based on co-operation,
> > > interaction, and mutual dependence among organisms.* According to
> > > Margulis and Sagan (1986), "Life did not take over the globe by combat,
> > > but by networking." As in humans, organisms that cooperate with others
> > > of their own or different species often outcompete those that don't.
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbiosis "
> >
> > Cooperation happens only when GOD's love is present.

> ..and competition?

The wages of sin is death.

> > > Can bacterias, other pathogns ( may cancer cells also) be kept under


> > > control, naturally without unnatural introductions and interventions?
> >
> > Without GOD's involvement, nothing would exist. Everything that exists
> > owe their existence to GOD's Son, LORD Jesus Christ:
> >

> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/175b5dc947a0781f?

> Work done by Free will?

Work done by GOD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind, and
strength.

Laus Deo !

> > You would be wise receive eternal life by surrendering to HIM:
> >

> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?


>
> Yes. But we can try to understand concep--the logic, the true meaning
> behing anything.

"For you this is impossible but with GOD all things are possible." --
Holy Spirit

Amen.

May GOD in HIS infinite grace and mercy to keep your heart beating to

Kumar

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Oct 30, 2006, 10:18:26 AM10/30/06
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Kumar wrote:
> >
> > Let us try to understand the concept--the logic behing any words, not
> > the words.
>
> It is wiser to know the truth.
>
> "I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ
Yes, but to know/understand the truth, one may need to understand the
logic of any concept.

> Amen ! Laus Deo ! ! Marana tha ! ! !
>
> > > > " Symbiosis and evolution
> > > > The biologist Lynn Margulis, famous for the work on endosymbiosis,
> > > > contends that symbiosis is a major driving force behind evolution. *She
> > > > considers Darwin's notion of evolution, driven by competition, as
> > > > incomplete, and claims evolution is strongly based on co-operation,
> > > > interaction, and mutual dependence among organisms.* According to
> > > > Margulis and Sagan (1986), "Life did not take over the globe by combat,
> > > > but by networking." As in humans, organisms that cooperate with others
> > > > of their own or different species often outcompete those that don't.
> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbiosis "
> > >
> > > Cooperation happens only when GOD's love is present.
>
> > ..and competition?
>
> The wages of sin is death.
Nature can also progress by competition--surrvival of fittest?

> > > > Can bacterias, other pathogns ( may cancer cells also) be kept under
> > > > control, naturally without unnatural introductions and interventions?
> > >
> > > Without GOD's involvement, nothing would exist. Everything that exists
> > > owe their existence to GOD's Son, LORD Jesus Christ:
> > >
> > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/175b5dc947a0781f?
>
> > Work done by Free will?
Without GOD's involvement, nothing would exist even free will?

> Work done by GOD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind, and
> strength.
>
> Laus Deo !
>
> > > You would be wise receive eternal life by surrendering to HIM:
> > >
> > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?
> >
> > Yes. But we can try to understand concept--the logic, the true meaning

> > behing anything.
>
> "For you this is impossible but with GOD all things are possible." --
> Holy Spirit
All can be one part of HIM as HE is omnipresent.

Kadaitcha Man

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Oct 30, 2006, 10:22:51 AM10/30/06
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Kumar <lordsh...@rediffmail.com>, the blue-haired parchmenter,
prated:

> Yes, but to know/understand the truth, one may need to understand the
> logic of any concept.

True, but your first problem is understanding logic.

--
alt.usenet.kooks - Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker:
September 2005 and April 2006

"K-Man's particular genius, however, lies not merely in his humour,
but his ability to make posters who had previously seemed reasonably
well-balanced turn into foaming, frothing, death threat-uttering
maniacs" - Snarky, Demon Lord of Confusion

"If the truth be known, the only reason Osama is still on the loose is
because he himself hasn't fallen victim to the K-Man." - Wog George

Thou wretched and peevish fellow. A huge translation of hypocrisy,
vilely compiled, profound simplicity.

Kumar

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Oct 30, 2006, 10:40:11 PM10/30/06
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Kadaitcha Man wrote:
> Kumar <lordsh...@rediffmail.com>, the blue-haired parchmenter,
> prated:
>
> > Yes, but to know/understand the truth, one may need to understand the
> > logic of any concept.
>
> True, but your first problem is understanding logic.
Much digging may be needed to understand real logic, the truth, which
might had been dormant since long.

Kadaitcha Man

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Oct 30, 2006, 11:57:01 PM10/30/06
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Kumar <lordsh...@rediffmail.com>, the usher and door attendant,
winced:
> Kadaitcha Man wrote:
>> Kumar <lordsh...@rediffmail.com>, the blue-haired parchmenter,
>> prated:
>>
>>> Yes, but to know/understand the truth, one may need to understand
>>> the logic of any concept.
>>
>> True, but your first problem is understanding logic.

> M<BITCHSLAP>

Please froth over there -------------->

--
alt.usenet.kooks - Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker:
September 2005 and April 2006

"K-Man's particular genius, however, lies not merely in his humour,
but his ability to make posters who had previously seemed reasonably
well-balanced turn into foaming, frothing, death threat-uttering
maniacs" - Snarky, Demon Lord of Confusion

"If the truth be known, the only reason Osama is still on the loose is
because he himself hasn't fallen victim to the K-Man." - Wog George

Thou blasphemous whoreson dog. Thou friendless pestilent knave.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Oct 31, 2006, 12:48:30 AM10/31/06
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Kumar wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Kumar wrote:
> > >
> > > Let us try to understand the concept--the logic behing any words, not
> > > the words.
> >
> > It is wiser to know the truth.
> >
> > "I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ
>
> Yes, but to know/understand the truth, one may need to understand the
> logic of any concept.

Logic is to understanding as crawling is to running.

May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear

neighbor whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).

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realitytrucker

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Oct 31, 2006, 12:54:55 AM10/31/06
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PLEAE STOP CROSSPOSTING!!

Kadaitcha Man

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Oct 31, 2006, 1:01:11 AM10/31/06
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realitytrucker <timp...@gmail.com>, the drain maker, crowed:

>> Thou blasphemous whoreson dog. Thou friendless pestilent knave.
>
> PLEAE STOP CROSSPOSTING!!

No.

--
alt.usenet.kooks - Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker:
September 2005 and April 2006

"K-Man's particular genius, however, lies not merely in his humour,
but his ability to make posters who had previously seemed reasonably
well-balanced turn into foaming, frothing, death threat-uttering
maniacs" - Snarky, Demon Lord of Confusion

"If the truth be known, the only reason Osama is still on the loose is
because he himself hasn't fallen victim to the K-Man." - Wog George

Thou shrill-voiced supplicant. Thou bootless, idiotic incarnate devil.

Kumar

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Oct 31, 2006, 3:28:43 AM10/31/06
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Kumar wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > Kumar wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Let us try to understand the concept--the logic behing any words, not
> > > > the words.
> > >
> > > It is wiser to know the truth.
> > >
> > > "I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ
> >
> > Yes, but to know/understand the truth, one may need to understand the
> > logic of any concept.
>
> Logic is to understanding as crawling is to running.
Logic can be in-built power--evolved, inherited and aquired whereas
understanding can be aquired. Much digging/crawling may be need to
understand the dormant logic or the truth--still "slow and steady wins
the race".

Anyway, can becterias switch over to genetic recombination(somewhar
sexual reproduction) from reproduction from replications(somewhat
asexual reproduction) if environment and nutrients availability is not
favourable to them?

Aratzio

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Oct 31, 2006, 9:34:36 AM10/31/06
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On 30 Oct 2006 21:54:55 -0800, "realitytrucker" <timp...@gmail.com>
transparently proposed:

What is crossposting?

--

Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?

Aratzio

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Oct 31, 2006, 9:35:36 AM10/31/06
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On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 11:46:11 +0545, "Kadaitcha Man"
<fuck-you...@kiss-my-big-black-ass.com> transparently proposed:

>realitytrucker <timp...@gmail.com>, the drain maker, crowed:
>
>>> Thou blasphemous whoreson dog. Thou friendless pestilent knave.
>>
>> PLEAE STOP CROSSPOSTING!!
>
>No.

Stop It.

Kadaitcha Man

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Oct 31, 2006, 9:39:16 AM10/31/06
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Aratzio <a6ah...@sneakemail.com>, the debased retailer, chafed:
> On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 11:46:11 +0545, "Kadaitcha Man"
> <fuck-you...@kiss-my-big-black-ass.com> transparently proposed:
>
>> realitytrucker <timp...@gmail.com>, the drain maker, crowed:
>>
>>>> Thou blasphemous whoreson dog. Thou friendless pestilent knave.
>>>
>>> PLEAE STOP CROSSPOSTING!!
>>
>> No.
> Stop It.
Spot it.

--
alt.usenet.kooks - Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker:
September 2005 and April 2006

"K-Man's particular genius, however, lies not merely in his humour,
but his ability to make posters who had previously seemed reasonably
well-balanced turn into foaming, frothing, death threat-uttering
maniacs" - Snarky, Demon Lord of Confusion

"If the truth be known, the only reason Osama is still on the loose is
because he himself hasn't fallen victim to the K-Man." - Wog George

Thou quicksand of deceit. A whitely wanton with a velvet brow, with two
pitch balls stuck in thy face for eyes.

The Demon Prince of Absurdity

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Nov 1, 2006, 1:38:45 AM11/1/06
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On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:42:01 +0545, Kadaitcha Man did the cha-cha, and
screamed:
> Kumar, the usher and door attendant, winced:
>> Kadaitcha Man wrote:
>>> Kumar, the blue-haired parchmenter, prated:

>>>
>>>> Yes, but to know/understand the truth, one may need to understand the
>>>> logic of any concept.
>>>
>>> True, but your first problem is understanding logic.
>
>> M<BITCHSLAP>
>
> Please froth over there -------------->

Seems another speaker of Yinglish has turned up...

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"Q: How many Bush administration officials does it take to change a
light bulb?
A: None. There is no need to change anything. We made the right decision
to stick with that light bulb. People who say that it is burned out are
giving aid and encouragement to the Forces of Darkness." -- Anon.

"Etymology:
Argumentum ad Septicus : argument to putrefaction. Derived from Septicum
Argumentum : putrefaction of argument.

"Septic \Sep"tic\, Septical \Sep"tic*al\
a. [L. septicus to make putrid: cf. F. septique.]
Having power to promote putrefaction. Of or relating to or
caused by putrefaction." -- Kadaitcha Man, indirectly to
Donald "Skeptic"/"Septic" Alford, in MID: <a3svh.d...@news.alt.net>

"I never fail to be amazing" -- Looney Maroon for September 2006 nominee
William Barwell's ego knows no bounds. MID:
12ggt3q...@corp.supernews.com

"We are most nearly ourselves when we achieve the seriousness of the
child at play." -- Heraclitus

"And thats another mistake on your part. Your 'playing' games on usenet,
and I'm not playing...It has nothing to do with impressing you, it has
more to do with making sure you have the education you'll need to debate.
The debate is no fun for me if you are mentally incapable of it. I'm
giving you an opportunity to educate yourself. That's all." -- A trashy
former virus-writer turned Outer Filth doesn't know if he's playing or
working, in MID: <1159389579....@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>

"I am incapable of original thoughts" -- Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤ has an honest
moment, in MID: <0h59i25ejlthqeeit...@4ax.com>

"But now the end is near. Now Mark Foley comes along and is making
almost all liberal dreams come true and seriously, I'm sorry for it.
See, I believe in karma. I believe what comes around goes around and I
know full well that it's just bad juju to wish such a level of turmoil
and ill upon other humans, warmongering gay-hating maladroits or no, and
that the real path of enlightenment is paved with forgiveness and
progress and white-hot love and turning the other cheek and scotch.

"In fact, Jesus said something about that, I do believe. He said, "Knock
it off already with the warmongering and the hating of each other and
let's all get some wine and party like it's 2012." Then again, he never
saw Karl Rove stab the nation with the dull ice pick of bogus fear. He
never heard George W. Bush describe brutal war and the death of tens of
thousands as "just a comma" in world history.

"Check that. Maybe I'm not so sorry after all." -- Mark Morford,
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/gate/archive/2006/10/11/
notes101106.DTL&nl=fix
http://tinyurl.com/kusmr

The Demon Prince of Absurdity

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Nov 1, 2006, 1:40:45 AM11/1/06
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On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 21:54:55 -0800, realitytrucker did the cha-cha, and
screamed:
> Kadaitcha Man wrote:
>> Kumar, the usher and door attendant, winced:
>> > Kadaitcha Man wrote:
>> >> Kumar, the blue-haired parchmenter, prated:

>> >>
>> >>> Yes, but to know/understand the truth, one may need to understand
>> >>> the logic of any concept.
>> >>
>> >> True, but your first problem is understanding logic.
>>
>> > M<BITCHSLAP>
>>
>> Please froth over there -------------->
>
> PLEAE STOP CROSSPOSTING!!

No.

PLEAE KEEP FOAMING!

Kadaitcha Man

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Nov 1, 2006, 2:44:29 AM11/1/06
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The Demon Prince of Absurdity <absurd_numb...@hell.corn>, the
dealer in stale cheeses, declared:
> On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:42:01 +0545, Kadaitcha Man did the cha-cha, and
> screamed:
>> Kumar, the usher and door attendant, winced:
>>> Kadaitcha Man wrote:
>>>> Kumar, the blue-haired parchmenter, prated:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, but to know/understand the truth, one may need to understand
>>>>> the logic of any concept.
>>>>
>>>> True, but your first problem is understanding logic.
>>
>>> M<BITCHSLAP>
>>
>> Please froth over there -------------->
>
> Seems another speaker of Yinglish has turned up...

Yes, and the fucker keeps spewing his foam at me. Ying used to do that.
Perhaps it is Ying; in drag.

--
alt.usenet.kooks - Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker:
September 2005 and April 2006

"K-Man's particular genius, however, lies not merely in his humour,
but his ability to make posters who had previously seemed reasonably
well-balanced turn into foaming, frothing, death threat-uttering
maniacs" - Snarky, Demon Lord of Confusion

"If the truth be known, the only reason Osama is still on the loose is
because he himself hasn't fallen victim to the K-Man." - Wog George

Thou scab. Thou art unfit for any place but hell

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 2, 2006, 4:49:56 PM11/2/06
to
Kumar wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Kumar wrote:
> > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Let us try to understand the concept--the logic behing any words, not
> > > > > the words.
> > > >
> > > > It is wiser to know the truth.
> > > >
> > > > "I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ
> > >
> > > Yes, but to know/understand the truth, one may need to understand the
> > > logic of any concept.
> >
> > Logic is to understanding as crawling is to running.
>
> Logic can be in-built power

It is not power.

> --evolved, inherited and aquired whereas
> understanding can be aquired.

Logic is neither evolved nor inherited.

> Much digging/crawling may be need to
> understand the dormant logic or the truth--still "slow and steady wins
> the race".

No digging/crawling required for receiving the truth.

> Anyway, can becterias switch over to genetic recombination(somewhar
> sexual reproduction) from reproduction from replications(somewhat
> asexual reproduction) if environment and nutrients availability is not
> favourable to them?

Depends on the bacteria.

May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear

neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.

Kumar

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Nov 4, 2006, 11:40:20 PM11/4/06
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Kumar wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Let us try to understand the concept--the logic behing any words, not
> > > > > > the words.
> > > > >
> > > > > It is wiser to know the truth.
> > > > >
> > > > > "I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ
> > > >
> > > > Yes, but to know/understand the truth, one may need to understand the
> > > > logic of any concept.
> > >
> > > Logic is to understanding as crawling is to running.
> >
> > Logic can be in-built power
>
> It is not power.
>
> > --evolved, inherited and aquired whereas
> > understanding can be aquired.
>
> Logic is neither evolved nor inherited.
How we get it?

> > Much digging/crawling may be need to
> > understand the dormant logic or the truth--still "slow and steady wins
> > the race".
>
> No digging/crawling required for receiving the truth.

Whether logics statisfy anyone or not?


> > Anyway, can becterias switch over to genetic recombination(somewhar
> > sexual reproduction) from reproduction from replications(somewhat
> > asexual reproduction) if environment and nutrients availability is not
> > favourable to them?
>
> Depends on the bacteria.

Whether dependance on replications instead of genetic recombination can
keep bacterias growth static?

Whether delayed replications increase the age?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 5, 2006, 1:51:10 AM11/5/06
to
Kumar wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Kumar wrote:
> > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Let us try to understand the concept--the logic behing any words, not
> > > > > > > the words.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is wiser to know the truth.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, but to know/understand the truth, one may need to understand the
> > > > > logic of any concept.
> > > >
> > > > Logic is to understanding as crawling is to running.
> > >
> > > Logic can be in-built power
> >
> > It is not power.
> >
> > > --evolved, inherited and aquired whereas
> > > understanding can be aquired.
> >
> > Logic is neither evolved nor inherited.
>
> How we get it?

It is a systematic method of thought.

> > > Much digging/crawling may be need to
> > > understand the dormant logic or the truth--still "slow and steady wins
> > > the race".
> >
> > No digging/crawling required for receiving the truth.
>
> Whether logics statisfy anyone or not?

Only the logical.

> > > Anyway, can becterias switch over to genetic recombination(somewhar
> > > sexual reproduction) from reproduction from replications(somewhat
> > > asexual reproduction) if environment and nutrients availability is not
> > > favourable to them?
> >
> > Depends on the bacteria.
>
> Whether dependance on replications instead of genetic recombination can
> keep bacterias growth static?

No. Bacteria that stop growing start dying.

> Whether delayed replications increase the age?

No. Bacteria are ageless.

May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor Kumar whom I

Kumar

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Nov 5, 2006, 2:01:49 AM11/5/06
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Kumar wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Let us try to understand the concept--the logic behing any words, not
> > > > > > > > the words.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It is wiser to know the truth.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, but to know/understand the truth, one may need to understand the
> > > > > > logic of any concept.
> > > > >
> > > > > Logic is to understanding as crawling is to running.
> > > >
> > > > Logic can be in-built power
> > >
> > > It is not power.
> > >
> > > > --evolved, inherited and aquired whereas
> > > > understanding can be aquired.
> > >
> > > Logic is neither evolved nor inherited.
> >
> > How we get it?
>
> It is a systematic method of thought.
Pls tell me more.

> > > > Much digging/crawling may be need to
> > > > understand the dormant logic or the truth--still "slow and steady wins
> > > > the race".
> > >
> > > No digging/crawling required for receiving the truth.
> >
> > Whether logics satisfy anyone or not?
>
> Only the logical.
Can anyone truely learn or satisfy himself without accepting anything
logically?

> > > > Anyway, can becterias switch over to genetic recombination(somewhar
> > > > sexual reproduction) from reproduction from replications(somewhat
> > > > asexual reproduction) if environment and nutrients availability is not
> > > > favourable to them?
> > >
> > > Depends on the bacteria.
> >
> > Whether dependance on replications instead of genetic recombination can
> > keep bacterias growth static?
>
> No. Bacteria that stop growing start dying.

What about human's cells?
Growing--by replication or by genetic recombination?

Can cancer cells aquire somewhat genetic recombination?


> > Whether delayed replications increase the age?
>
> No. Bacteria are ageless.

Can we and cancer cells gain such property by somewhat genetic
recombination from ageless creatures?

Kumar

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Kumar <lordsh...@rediffmail.com>, the left over cobbler, sobbed:

> A lot of people think that's a problem, but who knows, I might get hit
> by a bus tomorrow. The 'rest of my life' might not be that long.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 5, 2006, 3:09:48 AM11/5/06
to
Kumar wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Kumar wrote:
> > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Let us try to understand the concept--the logic behing any words, not
> > > > > > > > > the words.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It is wiser to know the truth.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes, but to know/understand the truth, one may need to understand the
> > > > > > > logic of any concept.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Logic is to understanding as crawling is to running.
> > > > >
> > > > > Logic can be in-built power
> > > >
> > > > It is not power.
> > > >
> > > > > --evolved, inherited and aquired whereas
> > > > > understanding can be aquired.
> > > >
> > > > Logic is neither evolved nor inherited.
> > >
> > > How we get it?
> >
> > It is a systematic method of thought.
>
> Pls tell me more.

Would suggest a college course in logic.

> > > > > Much digging/crawling may be need to
> > > > > understand the dormant logic or the truth--still "slow and steady wins
> > > > > the race".
> > > >
> > > > No digging/crawling required for receiving the truth.
> > >
> > > Whether logics satisfy anyone or not?
> >
> > Only the logical.
>
> Can anyone truely learn or satisfy himself without accepting anything
> logically?

Yes.

> > > > > Anyway, can becterias switch over to genetic recombination(somewhar
> > > > > sexual reproduction) from reproduction from replications(somewhat
> > > > > asexual reproduction) if environment and nutrients availability is not
> > > > > favourable to them?
> > > >
> > > > Depends on the bacteria.
> > >
> > > Whether dependance on replications instead of genetic recombination can
> > > keep bacterias growth static?
> >
> > No. Bacteria that stop growing start dying.
>
> What about human's cells?

Not so.

> Growing--by replication or by genetic recombination?

By size.

> Can cancer cells aquire somewhat genetic recombination?

Cancer cells grow in number by replication.

> > > Whether delayed replications increase the age?
> >
> > No. Bacteria are ageless.

> Can we and cancer cells gain such property by somewhat genetic
> recombination from ageless creatures?

No.

Eternal life can come only from LORD GOD Almighty.

Here's how:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?

May GOD keep your heart beating, dear neighbor Kumar whom I love

Kumar

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Nov 5, 2006, 11:11:38 PM11/5/06
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Can "understanding logics" be learned?


> > > > > > Much digging/crawling may be need to
> > > > > > understand the dormant logic or the truth--still "slow and steady wins
> > > > > > the race".
> > > > >
> > > > > No digging/crawling required for receiving the truth.
> > > >
> > > > Whether logics satisfy anyone or not?
> > >
> > > Only the logical.
> >
> > Can anyone truely learn or satisfy himself without accepting anything
> > logically?
>
> Yes.

How people can say and evaulate "it looks right or wrong" without
interacting with that issue previously in any manner?


> > > > > > Anyway, can becterias switch over to genetic recombination(somewhar
> > > > > > sexual reproduction) from reproduction from replications(somewhat
> > > > > > asexual reproduction) if environment and nutrients availability is not
> > > > > > favourable to them?
> > > > >
> > > > > Depends on the bacteria.
> > > >
> > > > Whether dependance on replications instead of genetic recombination can
> > > > keep bacterias growth static?
> > >
> > > No. Bacteria that stop growing start dying.
> >
> > What about human's cells?
>
> Not so.
>
> > Growing--by replication or by genetic recombination?
>
> By size.

How bacteria can stop growing?


> > Can cancer cells aquire somewhat genetic recombination?
>
> Cancer cells grow in number by replication.

Yes, but can they become cancerous by somewhat genetic recombination
process?


> > > > Whether delayed replications increase the age?
> > >
> > > No. Bacteria are ageless.
>
> > Can we and cancer cells gain such property by somewhat genetic
> > recombination from ageless creatures?
>
> No.

Few thought that some part of our cells are by genetic recombination
with bacteria?


> Eternal life can come only from LORD GOD Almighty.
>
> Here's how:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?

Thanks.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 7, 2006, 11:55:55 AM11/7/06
to

Yes.

> > > > > > > Much digging/crawling may be need to
> > > > > > > understand the dormant logic or the truth--still "slow and steady wins
> > > > > > > the race".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No digging/crawling required for receiving the truth.
> > > > >
> > > > > Whether logics satisfy anyone or not?
> > > >
> > > > Only the logical.
> > >
> > > Can anyone truely learn or satisfy himself without accepting anything
> > > logically?
> >
> > Yes.
>
> How people can say and evaulate "it looks right or wrong" without
> interacting with that issue previously in any manner?

GOD makes them able.

> > > > > > > Anyway, can becterias switch over to genetic recombination(somewhar
> > > > > > > sexual reproduction) from reproduction from replications(somewhat
> > > > > > > asexual reproduction) if environment and nutrients availability is not
> > > > > > > favourable to them?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Depends on the bacteria.
> > > > >
> > > > > Whether dependance on replications instead of genetic recombination can
> > > > > keep bacterias growth static?
> > > >
> > > > No. Bacteria that stop growing start dying.
> > >
> > > What about human's cells?
> >
> > Not so.
> >
> > > Growing--by replication or by genetic recombination?
> >
> > By size.
>
> How bacteria can stop growing?

When they run out of nutrients.

> > > Can cancer cells aquire somewhat genetic recombination?
> >
> > Cancer cells grow in number by replication.
>
> Yes, but can they become cancerous by somewhat genetic recombination
> process?

No. The become cancerous by the will of GOD.

> > > > > Whether delayed replications increase the age?
> > > >
> > > > No. Bacteria are ageless.
> >
> > > Can we and cancer cells gain such property by somewhat genetic
> > > recombination from ageless creatures?
> >
> > No.
>
> Few thought that some part of our cells are by genetic recombination
> with bacteria?

Our cells are not ageless.

> > Eternal life can come only from LORD GOD Almighty.
> >
> > Here's how:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?
>
> Thanks.

You are welcome.

All thanks and praises belong to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart,
soul, mind, and strength:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/love.asp

May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your heart, dear neighbor

Kumar

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Nov 7, 2006, 11:07:34 PM11/7/06
to
What do you call to; inbuilt and inherited quality of "understanding
the realities/truths"?

> > > > > > > > Much digging/crawling may be need to
> > > > > > > > understand the dormant logic or the truth--still "slow and steady wins
> > > > > > > > the race".
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No digging/crawling required for receiving the truth.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Whether logics satisfy anyone or not?
> > > > >
> > > > > Only the logical.
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone truely learn or satisfy himself without accepting anything
> > > > logically?
> > >
> > > Yes.
> >
> > How people can say and evaulate "it looks right or wrong" without
> > interacting with that issue previously in any manner?
>
> GOD makes them able.
What it is called?

> > > > > > > > Anyway, can becterias switch over to genetic recombination(somewhar
> > > > > > > > sexual reproduction) from reproduction from replications(somewhat
> > > > > > > > asexual reproduction) if environment and nutrients availability is not
> > > > > > > > favourable to them?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Depends on the bacteria.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Whether dependance on replications instead of genetic recombination can
> > > > > > keep bacterias growth static?
> > > > >
> > > > > No. Bacteria that stop growing start dying.
> > > >
> > > > What about human's cells?
> > >
> > > Not so.
> > >
> > > > Growing--by replication or by genetic recombination?
> > >
> > > By size.
> >
> > How bacteria can stop growing?
>
> When they run out of nutrients.
Can they increase virluencewhen they are short of nutrients?

> > > > Can cancer cells aquire somewhat genetic recombination?
> > >
> > > Cancer cells grow in number by replication.
> >
> > Yes, but can they become cancerous by somewhat genetic recombination
> > process?
>
> No. The become cancerous by the will of GOD.
>
> > > > > > Whether delayed replications increase the age?
> > > > >
> > > > > No. Bacteria are ageless.
> > >
> > > > Can we and cancer cells gain such property by somewhat genetic
> > > > recombination from ageless creatures?
> > >
> > > No.
Whether delayed replications of human cells increase the age of humans?

> > Few thought that some part of our cells are by genetic recombination
> > with bacteria?
>
> Our cells are not ageless.
Partly we and partly bacterias parts?

Kumar

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Kumar <lordsh...@rediffmail.com>, the sore-eyed arbiter, trembled:

> The government has a file of information on me.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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A discerning heart.

> > > > > > > > > Much digging/crawling may be need to
> > > > > > > > > understand the dormant logic or the truth--still "slow and steady wins
> > > > > > > > > the race".
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > No digging/crawling required for receiving the truth.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Whether logics satisfy anyone or not?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Only the logical.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can anyone truely learn or satisfy himself without accepting anything
> > > > > logically?
> > > >
> > > > Yes.
> > >
> > > How people can say and evaulate "it looks right or wrong" without
> > > interacting with that issue previously in any manner?
> >
> > GOD makes them able.

> What it is called?

A discerning heart:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirt/discern.asp

> > > > > > > > > Anyway, can becterias switch over to genetic recombination(somewhar
> > > > > > > > > sexual reproduction) from reproduction from replications(somewhat
> > > > > > > > > asexual reproduction) if environment and nutrients availability is not
> > > > > > > > > favourable to them?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Depends on the bacteria.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Whether dependance on replications instead of genetic recombination can
> > > > > > > keep bacterias growth static?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No. Bacteria that stop growing start dying.
> > > > >
> > > > > What about human's cells?
> > > >
> > > > Not so.
> > > >
> > > > > Growing--by replication or by genetic recombination?
> > > >
> > > > By size.
> > >
> > > How bacteria can stop growing?
> >
> > When they run out of nutrients.

> Can they increase virluencewhen they are short of nutrients?

Only if it is GOD's will.

> > > > > Can cancer cells aquire somewhat genetic recombination?
> > > >
> > > > Cancer cells grow in number by replication.
> > >
> > > Yes, but can they become cancerous by somewhat genetic recombination
> > > process?
> >
> > No. The become cancerous by the will of GOD.
> >
> > > > > > > Whether delayed replications increase the age?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No. Bacteria are ageless.
> > > >
> > > > > Can we and cancer cells gain such property by somewhat genetic
> > > > > recombination from ageless creatures?
> > > >
> > > > No.

> Whether delayed replications of human cells increase the age of humans?

Not clinically seen.

> > > Few thought that some part of our cells are by genetic recombination
> > > with bacteria?
> >
> > Our cells are not ageless.

> Partly we and partly bacterias parts?

No.

May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear

Kumar

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Kumar wrote:
snip> > > Yes.

>
> > What do you call to; inbuilt and inherited quality of "understanding
> > the realities/truths"?
>
> A discerning heart.
Any specific word for it?

> > > > > > > > > > Much digging/crawling may be need to
>> > > GOD makes them able.
>
> > What it is called?
>
> A discerning heart:
Any specific word?
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirt/discern.asp

>> > > > How bacteria can stop growing?
> > >
> > > When they run out of nutrients.
>
> > Can they increase virluencewhen they are short of nutrients?
>
> Only if it is GOD's will.
It is indicated that bacterial virluence can be increased in
unfavorable conditions?

> > > > > > Can cancer cells aquire somewhat genetic recombination?
> > > > >
> > > > > Cancer cells grow in number by replication.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, but can they become cancerous by somewhat genetic recombination
> > > > process?
> > >
> > > No. The become cancerous by the will of GOD.
> > >
> > > > > > > > Whether delayed replications increase the age?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No. Bacteria are ageless.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Can we and cancer cells gain such property by somewhat genetic
> > > > > > recombination from ageless creatures?
> > > > >
> > > > > No.
>
> > Whether delayed replications of human cells increase the age of humans?
>
> Not clinically seen.
Whether eary or delayed replications in human's cells commonly occur or
not?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Kumar wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Kumar wrote:
> snip> > > Yes.
> >
> > > What do you call to; inbuilt and inherited quality of "understanding
> > > the realities/truths"?
> >
> > A discerning heart.

> Any specific word for it?

A specific link:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/discern.asp

> > > > > > > > > > > Much digging/crawling may be need to
> >> > > GOD makes them able.
> >
> > > What it is called?
> >
> > A discerning heart:

> Any specific word?

You have a specific link:

> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirt/discern.asp

> >> > > > How bacteria can stop growing?
> > > >
> > > > When they run out of nutrients.
> >
> > > Can they increase virluencewhen they are short of nutrients?
> >
> > Only if it is GOD's will.

> It is indicated that bacterial virluence can be increased in
> unfavorable conditions?

Only if it is GOD's will.

> > > > > > > Can cancer cells aquire somewhat genetic recombination?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cancer cells grow in number by replication.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, but can they become cancerous by somewhat genetic recombination
> > > > > process?
> > > >
> > > > No. The become cancerous by the will of GOD.
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > Whether delayed replications increase the age?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > No. Bacteria are ageless.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can we and cancer cells gain such property by somewhat genetic
> > > > > > > recombination from ageless creatures?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No.
> >
> > > Whether delayed replications of human cells increase the age of humans?
> >
> > Not clinically seen.

> Whether eary or delayed replications in human's cells commonly occur or
> not?

Not for the end-differentiated cells of an adult.

Kumar

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Nov 10, 2006, 9:58:07 PM11/10/06
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Kumar wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > Kumar wrote:
> > snip> > > Yes.
> > >
> > > > What do you call to; inbuilt and inherited quality of "understanding
> > > > the realities/truths"?
> > >
> > > A discerning heart.
>
> > Any specific word for it?
>
> A specific link:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/discern.asp
Thanks.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Much digging/crawling may be need to
> > >> > > GOD makes them able.
> > >
> > > > What it is called?
> > >
> > > A discerning heart:
>
> > Any specific word?
>
> You have a specific link:
>
> > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirt/discern.asp
>
> > >> > > > How bacteria can stop growing?
> > > > >
> > > > > When they run out of nutrients.
> > >
> > > > Can they increase virluencewhen they are short of nutrients?
> > >
> > > Only if it is GOD's will.
>
> > It is indicated that bacterial virluence can be increased in
> > unfavorable conditions?
>
> Only if it is GOD's will.
But does it happen or not?

> > > > > > > > Can cancer cells aquire somewhat genetic recombination?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cancer cells grow in number by replication.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, but can they become cancerous by somewhat genetic recombination
> > > > > > process?
> > > > >
> > > > > No. The become cancerous by the will of GOD.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Whether delayed replications increase the age?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > No. Bacteria are ageless.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Can we and cancer cells gain such property by somewhat genetic
> > > > > > > > recombination from ageless creatures?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No.
> > >
> > > > Whether delayed replications of human cells increase the age of humans?
> > >
> > > Not clinically seen.
>
> > Whether eary or delayed replications in human's cells commonly occur or
> > not?
>
> Not for the end-differentiated cells of an adult.

Frankly, end-differentiated is still not clear to me.

Can vasodilation or vasoconstriction OR prolonged changes in musle's
tone in our body be systemic or profound?

What can cause general dryness of skin esp in morning--vasodilation or
vasoconstriction, variations in blood flow?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Kumar wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Kumar wrote:
> > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > Kumar wrote:
> > > snip> > > Yes.
> > > >
> > > > > What do you call to; inbuilt and inherited quality of "understanding
> > > > > the realities/truths"?
> > > >
> > > > A discerning heart.
> >
> > > Any specific word for it?
> >
> > A specific link:
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/discern.asp

> Thanks.

All thanks and praises belong to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart,
soul, mind, and strength:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp

Fear GOD and dread nothing that is of this world:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Much digging/crawling may be need to
> > > >> > > GOD makes them able.
> > > >
> > > > > What it is called?
> > > >
> > > > A discerning heart:
> >
> > > Any specific word?
> >
> > You have a specific link:
> >
> > > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirt/discern.asp
> >
> > > >> > > > How bacteria can stop growing?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When they run out of nutrients.
> > > >
> > > > > Can they increase virluencewhen they are short of nutrients?
> > > >
> > > > Only if it is GOD's will.
> >
> > > It is indicated that bacterial virluence can be increased in
> > > unfavorable conditions?
> >
> > Only if it is GOD's will.

> But does it happen or not?

That is up to GOD.

> > > > > > > > > Can cancer cells aquire somewhat genetic recombination?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cancer cells grow in number by replication.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes, but can they become cancerous by somewhat genetic recombination
> > > > > > > process?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No. The become cancerous by the will of GOD.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Whether delayed replications increase the age?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > No. Bacteria are ageless.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Can we and cancer cells gain such property by somewhat genetic
> > > > > > > > > recombination from ageless creatures?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > No.
> > > >
> > > > > Whether delayed replications of human cells increase the age of humans?
> > > >
> > > > Not clinically seen.
> >
> > > Whether eary or delayed replications in human's cells commonly occur or
> > > not?
> >
> > Not for the end-differentiated cells of an adult.
>
> Frankly, end-differentiated is still not clear to me.

Without GOD, you will be always seeing but never perceiving:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought

> Can vasodilation or vasoconstriction OR prolonged changes in musle's
> tone in our body be systemic or profound?

Not during homeostasis.

> What can cause general dryness of skin esp in morning--vasodilation or
> vasoconstriction, variations in blood flow?

Autonomic dysfunction from glycosylation of proteins vital for normal
function of the peripheral nervous system.

Through faith in LORD Jesus Christ there is perceiving in addition to
just seeing:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?

May GOD in HIS infinite mercy and grace keep your heart beating to give
you precious extra time to understand and act on this, dear neighbor

Kumar

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Can't bacteria increase or gain virluence factors to get nutrients and
for survival in unfavourable defficient nutrients conditions?


> > > > > > > > > > Can cancer cells aquire somewhat genetic recombination?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Cancer cells grow in number by replication.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yes, but can they become cancerous by somewhat genetic recombination
> > > > > > > > process?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No. The become cancerous by the will of GOD.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Whether delayed replications increase the age?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > No. Bacteria are ageless.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Can we and cancer cells gain such property by somewhat genetic
> > > > > > > > > > recombination from ageless creatures?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > No.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Whether delayed replications of human cells increase the age of humans?
> > > > >
> > > > > Not clinically seen.
> > >
> > > > Whether eary or delayed replications in human's cells commonly occur or
> > > > not?
> > >
> > > Not for the end-differentiated cells of an adult.
> >
> > Frankly, end-differentiated is still not clear to me.
>
> Without GOD, you will be always seeing but never perceiving:
>
> http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought
>
> > Can vasodilation or vasoconstriction OR prolonged changes in musle's
> > tone in our body be systemic or profound?
>
> Not during homeostasis.

What on unstabilities or on illness?


> > What can cause general dryness of skin esp in morning--vasodilation or
> > vasoconstriction, variations in blood flow?
>
> Autonomic dysfunction from glycosylation of proteins vital for normal
> function of the peripheral nervous system.

But it happens in non-diabetic people also.


> Through faith in LORD Jesus Christ there is perceiving in addition to
> just seeing:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?
>
> May GOD in HIS infinite mercy and grace keep your heart beating to give
> you precious extra time to understand and act on this, dear neighbor
> Kumar whom I love unconditionally.

Yes, thanks. These discussions are attuning me for the same.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Death may ensue.

> > > What can cause general dryness of skin esp in morning--vasodilation or
> > > vasoconstriction, variations in blood flow?
> >
> > Autonomic dysfunction from glycosylation of proteins vital for normal
> > function of the peripheral nervous system.
>
> But it happens in non-diabetic people also.

General skin dryness is typically from eczema.

> > Through faith in LORD Jesus Christ there is perceiving in addition to
> > just seeing:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?
> >
> > May GOD in HIS infinite mercy and grace keep your heart beating to give
> > you precious extra time to understand and act on this, dear neighbor
> > Kumar whom I love unconditionally.

> Yes, thanks.

You are welcome.

> These discussions are attuning me for the same.

Glad to read this.

Kumar

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Kumar wrote:
> > Can't bacteria increase or gain virluence factors to get nutrients and
> > for survival in unfavourable defficient nutrients conditions?
>
> Only if it is GOD's will.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Can cancer cells aquire somewhat genetic recombination?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Cancer cells grow in number by replication.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Yes, but can they become cancerous by somewhat genetic recombination
> > > > > > > > > > process?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > No. The become cancerous by the will of GOD.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whether delayed replications increase the age?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > No. Bacteria are ageless.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Can we and cancer cells gain such property by somewhat genetic
> > > > > > > > > > > > recombination from ageless creatures?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > No.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Whether delayed replications of human cells increase the age of humans?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Not clinically seen.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Whether eary or delayed replications in human's cells commonly occur or
> > > > > > not?
> > > > >
> > > > > Not for the end-differentiated cells of an adult.
> > > >
> > > > Frankly, end-differentiated is still not clear to me.
> > >
> > > Without GOD, you will be always seeing but never perceiving:
> > >
> > > http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought
> > >
> > > > Can vasodilation or vasoconstriction OR prolonged changes in muscle's

> > > > tone in our body be systemic or profound?
> > >
> > > Not during homeostasis.
>
> > What on unstabilities or on illness?
>
> Death may ensue.

Can't there be some non-fatal conditions/instabilties/imbalances? I
think medications can be meant for these?


> > > > What can cause general dryness of skin esp in morning--vasodilation or
> > > > vasoconstriction, variations in blood flow?
> > >
> > > Autonomic dysfunction from glycosylation of proteins vital for normal
> > > function of the peripheral nervous system.
> >
> > But it happens in non-diabetic people also.
>
> General skin dryness is typically from eczema.

Other than it, esp. morning dryness?


> > > Through faith in LORD Jesus Christ there is perceiving in addition to
> > > just seeing:
> > >
> > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?
> > >
> > > May GOD in HIS infinite mercy and grace keep your heart beating to give
> > > you precious extra time to understand and act on this, dear neighbor
> > > Kumar whom I love unconditionally.
>
> > Yes, thanks.
>
> You are welcome.
>
> > These discussions are attuning me for the same.
>
> Glad to read this.

I think, I may add some other aspects alongwith--discouraging specific
diets, excercising, stress avoidance...although avoiding overeating may
be emptying space for others and may also serve the purpose till beta
cells are not permanentaly damaged and irreversible.
Do you mostly intend to indicate those remedies, which are "absolute" &
persistent , non-contradictory, can't change? Many or most things, "not
yet become absolute, final or persistent can be thought to be imperfect
or damaging or wih possibility of adversities.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Not for profound changes in vasomotor tone like that which occurs with
sepsis.

> > > > > What can cause general dryness of skin esp in morning--vasodilation or
> > > > > vasoconstriction, variations in blood flow?
> > > >
> > > > Autonomic dysfunction from glycosylation of proteins vital for normal
> > > > function of the peripheral nervous system.
> > >
> > > But it happens in non-diabetic people also.
> >
> > General skin dryness is typically from eczema.

> Other than it, esp. morning dryness?

Dehydration.

> > > > Through faith in LORD Jesus Christ there is perceiving in addition to
> > > > just seeing:
> > > >
> > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?
> > > >
> > > > May GOD in HIS infinite mercy and grace keep your heart beating to give
> > > > you precious extra time to understand and act on this, dear neighbor
> > > > Kumar whom I love unconditionally.
> >
> > > Yes, thanks.
> >
> > You are welcome.
> >
> > > These discussions are attuning me for the same.
> >
> > Glad to read this.
>
> I think, I may add some other aspects alongwith--discouraging specific
> diets, excercising, stress avoidance...although avoiding overeating may
> be emptying space for others and may also serve the purpose till beta
> cells are not permanentaly damaged and irreversible.
> Do you mostly intend to indicate those remedies, which are "absolute" &
> persistent , non-contradictory, can't change? Many or most things, "not
> yet become absolute, final or persistent can be thought to be imperfect
> or damaging or wih possibility of adversities.

It is simply wise to lose the VAT:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/overweight.asp

May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear


neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Kumar

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Yes, but whether some medicines are meant for systemic or profoung
change in vascular tone--say to reverse sepsis?

> > > > > > What can cause general dryness of skin esp in morning--vasodilation or
> > > > > > vasoconstriction, variations in blood flow?
> > > > >
> > > > > Autonomic dysfunction from glycosylation of proteins vital for normal
> > > > > function of the peripheral nervous system.
> > > >
> > > > But it happens in non-diabetic people also.
> > >
> > > General skin dryness is typically from eczema.
>
> > Other than it, esp. morning dryness?
>
> Dehydration.
Can you tell reasons to night andmorning sicknesses? One may be
increase in cortisol?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Not in outpatient practice.

> > > > > > > What can cause general dryness of skin esp in morning--vasodilation or
> > > > > > > vasoconstriction, variations in blood flow?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Autonomic dysfunction from glycosylation of proteins vital for normal
> > > > > > function of the peripheral nervous system.
> > > > >
> > > > > But it happens in non-diabetic people also.
> > > >
> > > > General skin dryness is typically from eczema.
> >
> > > Other than it, esp. morning dryness?
> >
> > Dehydration.

> Can you tell reasons to night andmorning sicknesses? One may be
> increase in cortisol?

Not clinically seen.

Kumar

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> > Yes, but whether some medicines are meant for systemic or profound

> > change in vascular tone--say to reverse sepsis?
>
> Not in outpatient practice.
Can blood pressure abnomalty cause it?

> > > > > > > > What can cause general dryness of skin esp in morning--vasodilation or
> > > > > > > > vasoconstriction, variations in blood flow?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Autonomic dysfunction from glycosylation of proteins vital for normal
> > > > > > > function of the peripheral nervous system.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But it happens in non-diabetic people also.
> > > > >
> > > > > General skin dryness is typically from eczema.
> > >
> > > > Other than it, esp. morning dryness?
> > >
> > > Dehydration.
>
> > Can you tell reasons to night and morning sicknesses? One may be

> > increase in cortisol?
>
> Not clinically seen.

What biochemical changes commonly or in abnormal health occur during
night and early morning other than cortisol levels?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 19, 2006, 6:37:55 AM11/19/06
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Not clinically seen.

> > > > > > > > > What can cause general dryness of skin esp in morning--vasodilation or
> > > > > > > > > vasoconstriction, variations in blood flow?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Autonomic dysfunction from glycosylation of proteins vital for normal
> > > > > > > > function of the peripheral nervous system.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But it happens in non-diabetic people also.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > General skin dryness is typically from eczema.
> > > >
> > > > > Other than it, esp. morning dryness?
> > > >
> > > > Dehydration.
> >
> > > Can you tell reasons to night and morning sicknesses? One may be
> > > increase in cortisol?
> >
> > Not clinically seen.
>
> What biochemical changes commonly or in abnormal health occur during
> night and early morning other than cortisol levels?

Only GOD knows them all.

Kumar

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Nov 19, 2006, 7:33:28 AM11/19/06
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Can exposure to much hot or cold weather/applications cause overall or
profound vasodilation or vasoconstriction?


> > > > > > > > > > What can cause general dryness of skin esp in morning--vasodilation or
> > > > > > > > > > vasoconstriction, variations in blood flow?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Autonomic dysfunction from glycosylation of proteins vital for normal
> > > > > > > > > function of the peripheral nervous system.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But it happens in non-diabetic people also.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > General skin dryness is typically from eczema.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Other than it, esp. morning dryness?
> > > > >
> > > > > Dehydration.

Other reasons?


> > > > Can you tell reasons to night and morning sicknesses? One may be
> > > > increase in cortisol?
> > >
> > > Not clinically seen.
> >
> > What biochemical changes commonly or in abnormal health occur during
> > night and early morning other than cortisol levels?
>
> Only GOD knows them all.

Considering relaxed condition (rest and digest) and low tempreture and
less light exposure during night opposite to day time, some different
biochemical changes would be happening during night. Anyway, can skin
dryness or moisture be also related to changes in vascular tone/blood
flow? Being relaxed during night, one may be getting different type of
bloof flow than inday time?

To me, it looks, increased blood flow by vasodilation may cause more
moisture/prespiration to skin at the cost of less urine as may happen
during summer season?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 21, 2006, 7:29:40 AM11/21/06
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No clinically seen.

> > > > > > > > > > > What can cause general dryness of skin esp in morning--vasodilation or
> > > > > > > > > > > vasoconstriction, variations in blood flow?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Autonomic dysfunction from glycosylation of proteins vital for normal
> > > > > > > > > > function of the peripheral nervous system.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > But it happens in non-diabetic people also.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > General skin dryness is typically from eczema.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Other than it, esp. morning dryness?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dehydration.
>
> Other reasons?

Only GOD knows all the reasons.

> > > > > Can you tell reasons to night and morning sicknesses? One may be
> > > > > increase in cortisol?
> > > >
> > > > Not clinically seen.
> > >
> > > What biochemical changes commonly or in abnormal health occur during
> > > night and early morning other than cortisol levels?
> >
> > Only GOD knows them all.
>
> Considering relaxed condition (rest and digest) and low tempreture and
> less light exposure during night opposite to day time, some different
> biochemical changes would be happening during night. Anyway, can skin
> dryness or moisture be also related to changes in vascular tone/blood
> flow? Being relaxed during night, one may be getting different type of
> bloof flow than inday time?
>
> To me, it looks, increased blood flow by vasodilation may cause more
> moisture/prespiration to skin at the cost of less urine as may happen
> during summer season?

The works of GOD are simply amazing and testify to HIS glory.

Kumar

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Nov 21, 2006, 8:24:48 AM11/21/06
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Kumar wrote:
>snip> > > > > > > > > > > > Can vasodilation or vasoconstriction OR prolonged changes in muscle's

> > > > > > > > > > > > tone in our body be systemic or profound?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Not during homeostasis.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > What on unstabilities or on illness?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Death may ensue.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Can't there be some non-fatal conditions/instabilties/imbalances? I
> > > > > > > > think medications can be meant for these?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Not for profound changes in vasomotor tone like that which occurs with
> > > > > > > sepsis.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, but whether some medicines are meant for systemic or profound
> > > > > > change in vascular tone--say to reverse sepsis?
> > > > >
> > > > > Not in outpatient practice.
> > >
> > > > Can blood pressure abnomalty cause it?
> > >
> > > Not clinically seen.
> >
> > Can exposure to much hot or cold weather/applications cause overall or
> > profound vasodilation or vasoconstriction?
>
> No clinically seen.

Do hypertensive people experiance still higher BP in cold season and
low during hot season?

Prespiration is common in hot weather as a measue to thermoregulation.

On urine quantity is reduced on profuse prespiration OR can we get more
urine if we don't prespire or prespire less?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 23, 2006, 4:30:31 AM11/23/06
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Kumar wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Kumar wrote:
> >snip> > > > > > > > > > > > Can vasodilation or vasoconstriction OR prolonged changes in muscle's
> > > > > > > > > > > > > tone in our body be systemic or profound?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Not during homeostasis.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > What on unstabilities or on illness?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Death may ensue.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Can't there be some non-fatal conditions/instabilties/imbalances? I
> > > > > > > > > think medications can be meant for these?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Not for profound changes in vasomotor tone like that which occurs with
> > > > > > > > sepsis.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes, but whether some medicines are meant for systemic or profound
> > > > > > > change in vascular tone--say to reverse sepsis?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Not in outpatient practice.
> > > >
> > > > > Can blood pressure abnomalty cause it?
> > > >
> > > > Not clinically seen.
> > >
> > > Can exposure to much hot or cold weather/applications cause overall or
> > > profound vasodilation or vasoconstriction?
> >
> > No clinically seen.
>
> Do hypertensive people experiance still higher BP in cold season and
> low during hot season?

Any seasonal variability is typically mild and not profound.

> Prespiration is common in hot weather as a measue to thermoregulation.

Correct.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > What can cause general dryness of skin esp in morning--vasodilation or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > vasoconstriction, variations in blood flow?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Autonomic dysfunction from glycosylation of proteins vital for normal
> > > > > > > > > > > > function of the peripheral nervous system.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > But it happens in non-diabetic people also.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > General skin dryness is typically from eczema.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Other than it, esp. morning dryness?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Dehydration.
> > >
> > > Other reasons?
> >
> > Only GOD knows all the reasons.
>
> "

Therefore...

No anxiety.

No panic.

"KING of kings and LORD of lords."

> > > > > > > Can you tell reasons to night and morning sicknesses? One may be
> > > > > > > increase in cortisol?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Not clinically seen.
> > > > >
> > > > > What biochemical changes commonly or in abnormal health occur during
> > > > > night and early morning other than cortisol levels?
> > > >
> > > > Only GOD knows them all.
> > >
> > > Considering relaxed condition (rest and digest) and low tempreture and
> > > less light exposure during night opposite to day time, some different
> > > biochemical changes would be happening during night. Anyway, can skin
> > > dryness or moisture be also related to changes in vascular tone/blood
> > > flow? Being relaxed during night, one may be getting different type of
> > > bloof flow than inday time?
> > >
> > > To me, it looks, increased blood flow by vasodilation may cause more
> > > moisture/prespiration to skin at the cost of less urine as may happen
> > > during summer season?
> >
> > The works of GOD are simply amazing and testify to HIS glory.
>
> On urine quantity is reduced on profuse prespiration OR can we get more
> urine if we don't prespire or prespire less?

For diabetics, hyperglycemia will have a greater impact on changes in
urine volume than perspiration.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Through faith in LORD Jesus Christ there is
> > > perceiving in addition to
> > > > > > > > > > > > just seeing:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > May GOD in HIS infinite mercy and grace keep your heart beating to give
> > > > > > > > > > > > you precious extra time to understand and act on this, dear neighbor
> > > > > > > > > > > > Kumar whom I love unconditionally.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Yes, thanks.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > You are welcome.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > These discussions are attuning me for the same.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Glad to read this.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I think, I may add some other aspects alongwith--discouraging specific
> > > > > > > > > diets, excercising, stress avoidance...although avoiding overeating may
> > > > > > > > > be emptying space for others and may also serve the purpose till beta
> > > > > > > > > cells are not permanentaly damaged and irreversible.
> > > > > > > > > Do you mostly intend to indicate those remedies, which are "absolute" &
> > > > > > > > > persistent , non-contradictory, can't change? Many or most things, "not
> > > > > > > > > yet become absolute, final or persistent can be thought to be imperfect
> > > > > > > > > or damaging or wih possibility of adversities.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It is simply wise to lose the VAT:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/overweight.asp

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water thereby
curing us of anxiety and panic, dear neighbor Kumar whom I love

Kumar

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Nov 23, 2006, 6:07:09 AM11/23/06
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Kumar wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > Kumar wrote:
> > >snip> > > > > > > > > > > > Can vasodilation or vasoconstriction OR prolonged changes in muscle's
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > tone in our body be systemic or profound?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Not during homeostasis.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > What on unstabilities or on illness?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Death may ensue.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Can't there be some non-fatal conditions/instabilties/imbalances? I
> > > > > > > > > > think medications can be meant for these?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Not for profound changes in vasomotor tone like that which occurs with
> > > > > > > > > sepsis.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yes, but whether some medicines are meant for systemic or profound
> > > > > > > > change in vascular tone--say to reverse sepsis?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Not in outpatient practice.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Can blood pressure abnomalty cause it?
> > > > >
> > > > > Not clinically seen.
> > > >
> > > > Can exposure to much hot or cold weather/applications cause overall or
> > > > profound vasodilation or vasoconstriction?
> > >
> > > No clinically seen.
> >
> > Do hypertensive people experiance still higher BP in cold season and
> > low during hot season?
>
> Any seasonal variability is typically mild and not profound.
Whether hypertensive people have preferance to hot or cold bath,
commonly?
Yes, as such, can prespiration is discouraged by body mechanism on
hyperglycemia?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 26, 2006, 4:36:55 AM11/26/06
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Not clinically seen.

When dehydratedd there will be less sweating.

May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear

Kumar

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Nov 26, 2006, 5:27:10 AM11/26/06
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Not when dehydrated. Either less prespiration can be due to
vasoconstriction, if possible OR body try to lose more glucose in
urine?

Art Deco

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Nov 26, 2006, 10:52:19 AM11/26/06
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not during homeostasis.

>> > > > > > > > > > > > Death may ensue.

>> > > > > > > > Not in outpatient practice.

>> > > > > > Not clinically seen.

>> > > > No clinically seen.

>Not clinically seen.

>> > > > > > > > Not clinically seen.

>> > > > > > Only GOD knows them all.

>When dehydratedd there will be less sweating.

Shuttup, Chunk, and stop trolling support groups.

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