Hunger & Cravings in diabetecs?
kumar
Diabetics2 commoly get cravings to eat and occasionally overeat. What
causes such cravings/hunger to overeat?
Is it overeating causing hyperglycemia or normal eating resulting
hyperglycemia?
How status/level of total body glucose can be measured instead of just
blood status? Is it possible that a diabetic is defficient in glucose
on total body level but elevated on blood level, which may result into
cravings and hunger to eat more?
Sorry, I am bit unsatisfied about brainwashing due to commercial
interests, but it can be greed due to predisposed or aquired reasons of
defficiencies and unsatisfactions. I never remained defficient to foods
and never exposed to people/advt. of commercial interests, still get
cravings and undue hunger.
Best wishes.
spam...@spam.heaven
wrote:
>Hello,
>
>Diabetics2 commoly get cravings to eat and occasionally overeat. What
>causes such cravings/hunger to overeat?
I gues it will be either the high insulin levels (known to cause
hunger) or the starving body cells not getting enough glucose.
>Is it overeating causing hyperglycemia or normal eating resulting
>hyperglycemia?
Any eating can do it.
>How status/level of total body glucose can be measured instead of just
>blood status?
As it is the bloodstream that takes glucose to all parts of the body,
it will be a concentration gradient from where the glucose is supplied
to where it is used. Speed of use, production and distance between the
two will determine any concentration differences along this path from
production to use. Blood glucose is surely the most useful measure.
>Is it possible that a diabetic is defficient in glucose
>on total body level but elevated on blood level, which may result into
>cravings and hunger to eat more?
Not signioficantly. What are you postulating is slowing up the flow of
glucose?
>Sorry, I am bit unsatisfied about brainwashing due to commercial
>interests, but it can be greed due to predisposed or aquired reasons of
>defficiencies and unsatisfactions. I never remained defficient to foods
>and never exposed to people/advt. of commercial interests, still get
>cravings and undue hunger.
Do you have diabetes or insulin resistance? If type 1 and you use too
much insulin, that's why you are hungry. If IR, too much insulin and
not enough allowed into cells.That's why you ae hungry
jack
Did you post this to alt.health.diabetes?
Kumar
spam...@spam.heaven wrote:
> On 18 Jan 2007 20:30:39 -0800, "kumar" <lordsh...@rediffmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Hello,
> >
> >Diabetics2 commoly get cravings to eat and occasionally overeat. What
> >causes such cravings/hunger to overeat?
>
> I gues it will be either the high insulin levels (known to cause
> hunger) or the starving body cells not getting enough glucose.
>
> >Is it overeating causing hyperglycemia or normal eating resulting
> >hyperglycemia?
>
> Any eating can do it.
>
> >How status/level of total body glucose can be measured instead of just
> >blood status?
>
> As it is the bloodstream that takes glucose to all parts of the body,
> it will be a concentration gradient from where the glucose is supplied
> to where it is used. Speed of use, production and distance between the
> two will determine any concentration differences along this path from
> production to use. Blood glucose is surely the most useful measure.
Thanks.
Can this mechanism become abnormal in diabetics?
> >Is it possible that a diabetic is defficient in glucose
> >on total body level but elevated on blood level, which may result into
> >cravings and hunger to eat more?
>
> Not signioficantly. What are you postulating is slowing up the flow of
> glucose?
Can body system decrease blood flow or supply of glucose to
extravascular tissues to avoid excess glucose exposure to tissues or
glucotoxicities?
> >Sorry, I am bit unsatisfied about brainwashing due to commercial
> >interests, but it can be greed due to predisposed or aquired reasons of
> >defficiencies and unsatisfactions. I never remained defficient to foods
> >and never exposed to people/advt. of commercial interests, still get
> >cravings and undue hunger.
>
> Do you have diabetes or insulin resistance? If type 1 and you use too
> much insulin, that's why you are hungry. If IR, too much insulin and
> not enough allowed into cells.That's why you ae hungry
Type2 with IR. How too much insulin stimulate hunger without
hypoglycemia?
> jack
>
> Did you post this to alt.health.diabetes?
Now posted.
spam...@spam.heaven
wrote:
>spam...@spam.heaven wrote:
>> On 18 Jan 2007 20:30:39 -0800, "kumar" <lordsh...@rediffmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Hello,
>> >
>> >Diabetics2 commoly get cravings to eat and occasionally overeat. What
>> >causes such cravings/hunger to overeat?
>>
>> I gues it will be either the high insulin levels (known to cause
>> hunger) or the starving body cells not getting enough glucose.
>>
>> >Is it overeating causing hyperglycemia or normal eating resulting
>> >hyperglycemia?
>>
>> Any eating can do it.
>>
>> >How status/level of total body glucose can be measured instead of just
>> >blood status?
>>
>> As it is the bloodstream that takes glucose to all parts of the body,
>> it will be a concentration gradient from where the glucose is supplied
>> to where it is used. Speed of use, production and distance between the
>> two will determine any concentration differences along this path from
>> production to use. Blood glucose is surely the most useful measure.
>
>Thanks.
>Can this mechanism become abnormal in diabetics?
Not that I know of, Kumar. The only holdup in diabetics is at the cell
membrane where either insuffient or ineffective insulin blocks entry
of glucose into the cell.
>> >Is it possible that a diabetic is defficient in glucose
>> >on total body level but elevated on blood level, which may result into
>> >cravings and hunger to eat more?
>>
>> Not signioficantly. What are you postulating is slowing up the flow of
>> glucose?
>Can body system decrease blood flow or supply of glucose to
>extravascular tissues to avoid excess glucose exposure to tissues or
>glucotoxicities?
I've not heard of any mechanism for this, but maybe an expert in this
area can tell you definitely. It doesn't seem to happen in diabetics
who all seem to get damage from chronic high glucose levels.
>> >Sorry, I am bit unsatisfied about brainwashing due to commercial
>> >interests, but it can be greed due to predisposed or aquired reasons of
>> >defficiencies and unsatisfactions. I never remained defficient to foods
>> >and never exposed to people/advt. of commercial interests, still get
>> >cravings and undue hunger.
>>
>> Do you have diabetes or insulin resistance? If type 1 and you use too
>> much insulin, that's why you are hungry. If IR, too much insulin and
>> not enough allowed into cells.That's why you ae hungry
>Type2 with IR. How too much insulin stimulate hunger without
>hypoglycemia?
Well, the cells are hypoglycemic (intracellular) and perhaps they
signal the body to send more glucose, either by eating or liver
dumping.
>> Did you post this to alt.health.diabetes?
>
>Now posted.
It's just that my newsserver doesn't know of this group.
I thought you might have meant alt.support.diabetes
jack
Kumar
toxicities/excesses enabling glucose excretion in urine. I think, local
long term blood flow regulations of increase and decrease in size and
numbers or vessels supplying the tissues, vaso-oblitretions,
angiogenesis may be related to blood flow variations.
> >> >Sorry, I am bit unsatisfied about brainwashing due to commercial
> >> >interests, but it can be greed due to predisposed or aquired reasons of
> >> >defficiencies and unsatisfactions. I never remained defficient to foods
> >> >and never exposed to people/advt. of commercial interests, still get
> >> >cravings and undue hunger.
> >>
> >> Do you have diabetes or insulin resistance? If type 1 and you use too
> >> much insulin, that's why you are hungry. If IR, too much insulin and
> >> not enough allowed into cells.That's why you ae hungry
>
> >Type2 with IR. How too much insulin stimulate hunger without
> >hypoglycemia?
>
> Well, the cells are hypoglycemic (intracellular) and perhaps they
> signal the body to send more glucose, either by eating or liver
> dumping.
cells, lesser filtered extravascularily or total body glucose levels
are defficient?
> >> Did you post this to alt.health.diabetes?
> >
> >Now posted.
>
> It's just that my newsserver doesn't know of this group.
> I thought you might have meant alt.support.diabetes
>
> jack
Julie Bove
"kumar" <lordsh...@rediffmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169181039....@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
I don't have the answer to this but I was just thinking the same thing.
Lately I usually have no appetite at all and often finishing a whole meal is
difficult. But then I had the opposite thing happen last night.
My dinner was brown rice noodles with roast beef and some raw carrots. Total
amount of carbs was approx. 45 g. This is usually doable for me. Tested at
two hours after eating and BG was 222. Not good! Much higher than I
usually am when I've eaten this same meal.
A little time went by and I realized I was starving! I ate a few peanuts.
It wasn't enough. I ate some more. Then I started in on the pretzels.
Newman's Own high protein pretzels. I know better than to have left the bag
sitting around and I know better than to eat them when my BG is already high
but I just felt compelled to eat them. Felt like I needed the salt.
Then around midnight my stomach was growling at me again. I just couldn't
bring myself to test, figuring my BG would be through the rood and resigned
myself to knowing I would wake with BG that was too high. Ate 1/2 a can of
kidney beans.
So what did I wake up to this morning? The feeling that I was starving
again, and BG was 108. The only things I can figure is that my 222 wasn't
the right number. I admit I didn't wash my hands prior to testing. And now
that I think of it, I did take the carrots with me and ate them after dinner
because I didn't have time to finish them. Could be I had carrot juice on
my finger or something. Or it could be I did in fact have some sort of
weird, transient spike. I dunno.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Hello,
>
> Diabetics2 commoly get cravings to eat and occasionally overeat. What
> causes such cravings/hunger to overeat?
Cravings/hunger don't cause people to overeat.
The false belief that craving/hunger is bad causes people to overeat.
> Is it overeating causing hyperglycemia or normal eating resulting
> hyperglycemia?
Overeating causes the formation of visceral adipose tissue (VAT), which
over time will lead to the insulin resistance that precedes the
development of pancreatic insufficiency of type-2 diabetes.
> How status/level of total body glucose can be measured instead of just
> blood status?
Post-mortem extraction of glycogen from liver and muscle for
quantification.
> Is it possible that a diabetic is defficient in glucose
> on total body level but elevated on blood level, which may result into
> cravings and hunger to eat more?
No.
> Sorry, I am bit unsatisfied about brainwashing due to commercial
> interests, but it can be greed due to predisposed or aquired reasons of
> defficiencies and unsatisfactions.
Those around you who hold the false belief that "hunger is bad" are
also unwittingly involved in brainwashing you.
> I never remained defficient to foods
> and never exposed to people/advt. of commercial interests, still get
> cravings and undue hunger.
Only those living as a hermit would not be exposed to the forces that
are work brainwashing people to believe that "hunger is bad."
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
Pastor Kutchie
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Convicted neighbor kumar wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Diabetics2 commoly get cravings to eat and occasionally overeat. What
> > causes such cravings/hunger to overeat?
>
> Cravings/hunger don't cause people to overeat.
>
> The false belief that craving/hunger is bad causes people to overeat.
>
More of Chung's bitches:
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http://www.greatestjournal.com/community/thinspiring/53608.html
Sick.
Kumar
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Diabetics2 commoly get cravings to eat and occasionally overeat. What
> > causes such cravings/hunger to overeat?
>
> Cravings/hunger don't cause people to overeat.
>
> The false belief that craving/hunger is bad causes people to overeat.
> > Is it overeating causing hyperglycemia or normal eating resulting
> > hyperglycemia?
>
> Overeating causes the formation of visceral adipose tissue (VAT), which
> over time will lead to the insulin resistance that precedes the
> development of pancreatic insufficiency of type-2 diabetes.
> > How status/level of total body glucose can be measured instead of just
> > blood status?
>
> Post-mortem extraction of glycogen from liver and muscle for
> quantification.
glucose level can't be defficient inspite hyperglycemia?
> > Is it possible that a diabetic is defficient in glucose
> > on total body level but elevated on blood level, which may result into
> > cravings and hunger to eat more?
>
> No.
As above.
> > Sorry, I am bit unsatisfied about brainwashing due to commercial
> > interests, but it can be greed due to predisposed or aquired reasons of
> > defficiencies and unsatisfactions.
>
> Those around you who hold the false belief that "hunger is bad" are
> also unwittingly involved in brainwashing you.
>
> > I never remained defficient to foods
> > and never exposed to people/advt. of commercial interests, still get
> > cravings and undue hunger.
>
> Only those living as a hermit would not be exposed to the forces that
> are work brainwashing people to believe that "hunger is bad."
Whether such brainwashing can be predisposed or aquired?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Convicted neighbor kumar wrote:
>
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Diabetics2 commoly get cravings to eat and occasionally overeat. What
> > > causes such cravings/hunger to overeat?
> >
> > Cravings/hunger don't cause people to overeat.
> >
> > The false belief that craving/hunger is bad causes people to overeat.
>
> Whether such false belief can be predisposed/inherited or aquired?
It is acquired through brainwashing.
> > > Is it overeating causing hyperglycemia or normal eating resulting
> > > hyperglycemia?
> >
> > Overeating causes the formation of visceral adipose tissue (VAT), which
> > over time will lead to the insulin resistance that precedes the
> > development of pancreatic insufficiency of type-2 diabetes.
>
> How VAT effects the liver functions and normal movement of bile?
Makes things sluggish.
> > > How status/level of total body glucose can be measured instead of just
> > > blood status?
> >
> > Post-mortem extraction of glycogen from liver and muscle for
> > quantification.
> Then if we can't measure in live body, how can we say that total body
> glucose level can't be defficient inspite hyperglycemia?
Where there are stores there is no deficiency.
If you have money in a bank, you can not say you are poor.
> > > Is it possible that a diabetic is defficient in glucose
> > > on total body level but elevated on blood level, which may result into
> > > cravings and hunger to eat more?
> >
> > No.
>
> As above.
See above.
> > > Sorry, I am bit unsatisfied about brainwashing due to commercial
> > > interests, but it can be greed due to predisposed or aquired reasons of
> > > defficiencies and unsatisfactions.
> >
> > Those around you who hold the false belief that "hunger is bad" are
> > also unwittingly involved in brainwashing you.
> >
> > > I never remained defficient to foods
> > > and never exposed to people/advt. of commercial interests, still get
> > > cravings and undue hunger.
> >
> > Only those living as a hermit would not be exposed to the forces that
> > are work brainwashing people to believe that "hunger is bad."
>
> Whether such brainwashing can be predisposed or aquired?
By definition, it is acquired.
kumar
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > Convicted neighbor kumar wrote:
> >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > Diabetics2 commoly get cravings to eat and occasionally overeat. What
> > > > causes such cravings/hunger to overeat?
> > >
> > > Cravings/hunger don't cause people to overeat.
> > >
> > > The false belief that craving/hunger is bad causes people to overeat.
> >
> > Whether such false belief can be predisposed/inherited or aquired?
>
> It is acquired through brainwashing.
>
> > > > Is it overeating causing hyperglycemia or normal eating resulting
> > > > hyperglycemia?
> > >
> > > Overeating causes the formation of visceral adipose tissue (VAT), which
> > > over time will lead to the insulin resistance that precedes the
> > > development of pancreatic insufficiency of type-2 diabetes.
> >
> > How VAT effects the liver functions and normal movement of bile?
>
> Makes things sluggish.
Are these fatty depositions, fatty degenerations, fibrosis, stricture
in bile duct, bilary statis, infection in liver effecting bile flow,
somewhat relaxed conditions due to iron overload/instability,
calcifications or otherwise?
> > > > How status/level of total body glucose can be measured instead of just
> > > > blood status?
> > >
> > > Post-mortem extraction of glycogen from liver and muscle for
> > > quantification.
>
> > Then if we can't measure in live body, how can we say that total body
> > glucose level can't be defficient inspite hyperglycemia?
>
> Where there are stores there is no deficiency.
>
> If you have money in a bank, you can not say you are poor.
as you indicated. Stores can be of fats but i am thinking glucose
levels?
> > > > Is it possible that a diabetic is defficient in glucose
> > > > on total body level but elevated on blood level, which may result into
> > > > cravings and hunger to eat more?
> > >
> > > No.
> >
> > As above.
>
> See above.
>
> > > > Sorry, I am bit unsatisfied about brainwashing due to commercial
> > > > interests, but it can be greed due to predisposed or aquired reasons of
> > > > defficiencies and unsatisfactions.
> > >
> > > Those around you who hold the false belief that "hunger is bad" are
> > > also unwittingly involved in brainwashing you.
> > >
> > > > I never remained defficient to foods
> > > > and never exposed to people/advt. of commercial interests, still get
> > > > cravings and undue hunger.
> > >
> > > Only those living as a hermit would not be exposed to the forces that
> > > are work brainwashing people to believe that "hunger is bad."
> >
> > Whether such brainwashing can be predisposed or aquired?
>
> By definition, it is acquired.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Convicted neighbor Kumar wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > Convicted neighbor kumar wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > Diabetics2 commoly get cravings to eat and occasionally overeat. What
> > > > > causes such cravings/hunger to overeat?
> > > >
> > > > Cravings/hunger don't cause people to overeat.
> > > >
> > > > The false belief that craving/hunger is bad causes people to overeat.
> > >
> > > Whether such false belief can be predisposed/inherited or aquired?
> >
> > It is acquired through brainwashing.
> >
> > > > > Is it overeating causing hyperglycemia or normal eating resulting
> > > > > hyperglycemia?
> > > >
> > > > Overeating causes the formation of visceral adipose tissue (VAT), which
> > > > over time will lead to the insulin resistance that precedes the
> > > > development of pancreatic insufficiency of type-2 diabetes.
> > >
> > > How VAT effects the liver functions and normal movement of bile?
> >
> > Makes things sluggish.
>
> Other poster mentioned "Vat close(vascularily) ". What does it mean?
VAT can become so excessive that it invades/infiltrates the liver
changing it to a fatty one.
> Are these fatty depositions, fatty degenerations, fibrosis, stricture
> in bile duct, bilary statis, infection in liver effecting bile flow,
> somewhat relaxed conditions due to iron overload/instability,
> calcifications or otherwise?
See above.
> > > > > How status/level of total body glucose can be measured instead of just
> > > > > blood status?
> > > >
> > > > Post-mortem extraction of glycogen from liver and muscle for
> > > > quantification.
> >
> > > Then if we can't measure in live body, how can we say that total body
> > > glucose level can't be defficient inspite hyperglycemia?
> >
> > Where there are stores there is no deficiency.
> >
> > If you have money in a bank, you can not say you are poor.
>
> We can check balance in bank account, but not in extravascular tissues
> as you indicated. Stores can be of fats but i am thinking glucose
> levels?
Glycogen stores are essentially glucose stores.
> > > > > Is it possible that a diabetic is defficient in glucose
> > > > > on total body level but elevated on blood level, which may result into
> > > > > cravings and hunger to eat more?
> > > >
> > > > No.
> > >
> > > As above.
> >
> > See above.
> >
> > > > > Sorry, I am bit unsatisfied about brainwashing due to commercial
> > > > > interests, but it can be greed due to predisposed or aquired reasons of
> > > > > defficiencies and unsatisfactions.
> > > >
> > > > Those around you who hold the false belief that "hunger is bad" are
> > > > also unwittingly involved in brainwashing you.
> > > >
> > > > > I never remained defficient to foods
> > > > > and never exposed to people/advt. of commercial interests, still get
> > > > > cravings and undue hunger.
> > > >
> > > > Only those living as a hermit would not be exposed to the forces that
> > > > are work brainwashing people to believe that "hunger is bad."
> > >
> > > Whether such brainwashing can be predisposed or aquired?
> >
> > By definition, it is acquired.
>
> Ok thanks.
You are welcome, Kumar :-)
Kumar
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > Convicted neighbor Kumar wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > Convicted neighbor kumar wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Diabetics2 commoly get cravings to eat and occasionally overeat. What
> > > > > > causes such cravings/hunger to overeat?
> > > > >
> > > > > Cravings/hunger don't cause people to overeat.
> > > > >
> > > > > The false belief that craving/hunger is bad causes people to overeat.
> > > >
> > > > Whether such false belief can be predisposed/inherited or aquired?
> > >
> > > It is acquired through brainwashing.
> > >
> > > > > > Is it overeating causing hyperglycemia or normal eating resulting
> > > > > > hyperglycemia?
> > > > >
> > > > > Overeating causes the formation of visceral adipose tissue (VAT), which
> > > > > over time will lead to the insulin resistance that precedes the
> > > > > development of pancreatic insufficiency of type-2 diabetes.
> > > >
> > > > How VAT effects the liver functions and normal movement of bile?
> > >
> > > Makes things sluggish.
> >
> > Other poster mentioned "Vat close(vascularily) ". What does it mean?
>
> VAT can become so excessive that it invades/infiltrates the liver
> changing it to a fatty one.
Whether fatty liver causes some impairment in normal bile flow?
Can it be defined as fatty changes resulting into fatty degeneration?
> > Are these fatty depositions, fatty degenerations, fibrosis, stricture
> > in bile duct, bilary statis, infection in liver effecting bile flow,
> > somewhat relaxed conditions due to iron overload/instability,
> > calcifications or otherwise?
>
> See above.
Are such fatty changes related to some impairement/abnormality in O2
metabolism?
> > > > > > How status/level of total body glucose can be measured instead of just
> > > > > > blood status?
> > > > >
> > > > > Post-mortem extraction of glycogen from liver and muscle for
> > > > > quantification.
> > >
> > > > Then if we can't measure in live body, how can we say that total body
> > > > glucose level can't be defficient inspite hyperglycemia?
> > >
> > > Where there are stores there is no deficiency.
> > >
> > > If you have money in a bank, you can not say you are poor.
> >
> > We can check balance in bank account, but not in extravascular tissues
> > as you indicated. Stores can be of fats but i am thinking glucose
> > levels?
>
> Glycogen stores are essentially glucose stores.
How glycogen stores are effected due to diabetes2?
snip
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor kumar wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > Convicted neighbor Kumar wrote:
> > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > Convicted neighbor kumar wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Hello,
>
> > > > > > > Diabetics2 commoly get cravings to eat and occasionally overeat. What
> > > > > > > causes such cravings/hunger to overeat?
>
> > > > > > Cravings/hunger don't cause people to overeat.
>
> > > > > > The false belief that craving/hunger is bad causes people to overeat.
>
> > > > > Whether such false belief can be predisposed/inherited or aquired?
>
> > > > It is acquired through brainwashing.
>
> > > > > > > Is it overeating causing hyperglycemia or normal eating resulting
> > > > > > > hyperglycemia?
>
> > > > > > Overeating causes the formation of visceral adipose tissue (VAT), which
> > > > > > over time will lead to the insulin resistance that precedes the
> > > > > > development of pancreatic insufficiency of type-2 diabetes.
>
> > > > > How VAT effects the liver functions and normal movement of bile?
>
> > > > Makes things sluggish.
>
> > > Other poster mentioned "Vat close(vascularily) ". What does it mean?
>
> > VAT can become so excessive that it invades/infiltrates the liver
> Can it be defined as fatty changes resulting into fatty degeneration?
>
> > > Are these fatty depositions, fatty degenerations, fibrosis, stricture
> > > in bile duct, bilary statis, infection in liver effecting bile flow,
> > > somewhat relaxed conditions due to iron overload/instability,
> > > calcifications or otherwise?
>
> > See above.
>
> Are such fatty changes related to some impairement/abnormality in O2
> metabolism?
No.
> > > > > > > How status/level of total body glucose can be measured instead of just
> > > > > > > blood status?
>
> > > > > > Post-mortem extraction of glycogen from liver and muscle for
> > > > > > quantification.
>
> > > > > Then if we can't measure in live body, how can we say that total body
> > > > > glucose level can't be defficient inspite hyperglycemia?
>
> > > > Where there are stores there is no deficiency.
>
> > > > If you have money in a bank, you can not say you are poor.
>
> > > We can check balance in bank account, but not in extravascular tissues
> > > as you indicated. Stores can be of fats but i am thinking glucose
> > > levels?
>
> > Glycogen stores are essentially glucose stores.
> How glycogen stores are effected due to diabetes2?
They are decreased in folks who are "low-carbing."
kumar
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> snip> >
> > > > > > > > Hello,
> >
> > > > > > > > Diabetics2 commoly get cravings to eat and occasionally overeat. What
> > > > > > > > causes such cravings/hunger to overeat?
> >
> > > > > > > Cravings/hunger don't cause people to overeat.
> >
> > > > > > > The false belief that craving/hunger is bad causes people to overeat.
> >
> > > > > > Whether such false belief can be predisposed/inherited or aquired?
> >
> > > > > It is acquired through brainwashing.
> >
> > > > > > > > Is it overeating causing hyperglycemia or normal eating resulting
> > > > > > > > hyperglycemia?
> >
> > > > > > > Overeating causes the formation of visceral adipose tissue (VAT), which
> > > > > > > over time will lead to the insulin resistance that precedes the
> > > > > > > development of pancreatic insufficiency of type-2 diabetes.
> >
> > > > > > How VAT effects the liver functions and normal movement of bile?
> >
> > > > > Makes things sluggish.
> >
> > > > Other poster mentioned "Vat close(vascularily) ". What does it mean?
> >
> > > VAT can become so excessive that it invades/infiltrates the liver
> > > changing it to a fatty one.
Whether fatty liver causes some impairment in normal bile flow?
> > Can it be defined as fatty changes resulting into fatty degeneration?
> >
> > > > Are these fatty depositions, fatty degenerations, fibrosis, stricture
> > > > in bile duct, bilary statis, infection in liver effecting bile flow,
> > > > somewhat relaxed conditions due to iron overload/instability,
> > > > calcifications or otherwise?
> >
> > > See above.
How fatty liver, fatty changes and fatty degeneration are linked?
Is there any link between fatty liver and renal problems?
> > Are such fatty changes related to some impairement/abnormality in O2
> > metabolism?
>
> No.
How excess lipids in blood can effect vascular tone? Are these
vasoconstricting or vaso-dilating?
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> > > Glycogen stores are essentially glucose stores.
>
> > How glycogen stores are effected due to diabetes2?
>
> They are decreased in folks who are "low-carbing."
Can these be abnormal due to diabetes inspite hyperglycemia?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Convicted neighbor Kumar wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > Convicted neighbor kumar wrote:
>
> > > > > Hello,
>
> > > > > Diabetics2 commoly get cravings to eat and occasionally overeat. What
> > > > > causes such cravings/hunger to overeat?
>
> > > > Cravings/hunger don't cause people to overeat.
>
> > > > The false belief that craving/hunger is bad causes people to overeat.
>
> > > Whether such false belief can be predisposed/inherited or aquired?
>
> > It is acquired through brainwashing.
>
> > > > > Is it overeating causing hyperglycemia or normal eating resulting
> > > > > hyperglycemia?
>
> > > > Overeating causes the formation of visceral adipose tissue (VAT), which
> > > > over time will lead to the insulin resistance that precedes the
> > > > development of pancreatic insufficiency of type-2 diabetes.
>
> > > How VAT effects the liver functions and normal movement of bile?
>
> Are these fatty depositions, fatty degenerations, fibrosis, stricture
> in bile duct, bilary statis, infection in liver effecting bile flow,
> somewhat relaxed conditions due to iron overload/instability,
> calcifications or otherwise?> > > > How status/level of total body glucose can be measured instead of just
> > > > > blood status?
>
> > > > Post-mortem extraction of glycogen from liver and muscle for
> > > > quantification.
>
> > > Then if we can't measure in live body, how can we say that total body
> > > glucose level can't be defficient inspite hyperglycemia?
>
> > Where there are stores there is no deficiency.
>
> > If you have money in a bank, you can not say you are poor.
>
> We can check balance in bank account, but not in extravascular tissues
> as you indicated.
Simply measure at the waistline.
> Stores can be of fats but i am thinking glucose
> levels?
Glycogen stores are basically polymerized glucose.
> > > > > Is it possible that a diabetic is defficient in glucose
> > > > > on total body level but elevated on blood level, which may result into
> > > > > cravings and hunger to eat more?
>
> > > > No.
>
> > > As above.
>
> > See above.
>
> > > > > Sorry, I am bit unsatisfied about brainwashing due to commercial
> > > > > interests, but it can be greed due to predisposed or aquired reasons of
> > > > > defficiencies and unsatisfactions.
>
> > > > Those around you who hold the false belief that "hunger is bad" are
> > > > also unwittingly involved in brainwashing you.
>
> > > > > I never remained defficient to foods
> > > > > and never exposed to people/advt. of commercial interests, still get
> > > > > cravings and undue hunger.
>
> > > > Only those living as a hermit would not be exposed to the forces that
> > > > are work brainwashing people to believe that "hunger is bad."
>
> > > Whether such brainwashing can be predisposed or aquired?
>
> > By definition, it is acquired.
>
> Ok thanks.
You are welcome, Kumar :-)
Andrew <><
Kumar
On Jan 26, 5:33 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> > as you indicated.Simply measure at the waistline.
>
> > Stores can be of fats but i am thinking glucose
> > levels?Glycogen stores are basically polymerized glucose.
Whether Glycogen levels are effected in diabetic2? If yes, how?
>
>
>
>
> > > > > > Is it possible that a diabetic is defficient in glucose
> > > > > > on total body level but elevated on blood level, which may result into
> > > > > > cravings and hunger to eat more?
>
> > > > > No.
>
> > > > As above.
>
> > > See above.
>
> > > > > > Sorry, I am bit unsatisfied about brainwashing due to commercial
> > > > > > interests, but it can be greed due to predisposed or aquired reasons of
> > > > > > defficiencies and unsatisfactions.
>
> > > > > Those around you who hold the false belief that "hunger is bad" are
> > > > > also unwittingly involved in brainwashing you.
>
> > > > > > I never remained defficient to foods
> > > > > > and never exposed to people/advt. of commercial interests, still get
> > > > > > cravings and undue hunger.
>
> > > > > Only those living as a hermit would not be exposed to the forces that
> > > > > are work brainwashing people to believe that "hunger is bad."
>
> > > > Whether such brainwashing can be predisposed or aquired?
>
> > > By definition, it is acquired.
Whether cravings/hunger and taste are indicator of some deffiency in
body?
> > Ok thanks.You are welcome, Kumar :-)
>
> Andrew <><
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Not in folks who are not "low-carbing."
>
> > > > > > > Is it possible that a diabetic is defficient in glucose
> > > > > > > on total body level but elevated on blood level, which may result into
> > > > > > > cravings and hunger to eat more?
> >
> > > > > > No.
> >
> > > > > As above.
> >
> > > > See above.
> >
> > > > > > > Sorry, I am bit unsatisfied about brainwashing due to commercial
> > > > > > > interests, but it can be greed due to predisposed or aquired reasons of
> > > > > > > defficiencies and unsatisfactions.
> >
> > > > > > Those around you who hold the false belief that "hunger is bad" are
> > > > > > also unwittingly involved in brainwashing you.
> >
> > > > > > > I never remained defficient to foods
> > > > > > > and never exposed to people/advt. of commercial interests, still get
> > > > > > > cravings and undue hunger.
> >
> > > > > > Only those living as a hermit would not be exposed to the forces that
> > > > > > are work brainwashing people to believe that "hunger is bad."
> >
> > > > > Whether such brainwashing can be predisposed or aquired?
> >
> > > > By definition, it is acquired.
>
> Whether cravings/hunger and taste are indicator of some deffiency in
> body?
Not in folks who have visceral adipose tissue (VAT).