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Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister

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Jan 28, 2007, 11:25:03 AM1/28/07
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On Jan 28, 3:46 pm, "simple_langu...@yahoo.com"
<simple_langu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12082681/

"They also said they had no explanation for the higher complication
rate in patients who knew they were being prayed for, in comparison to
patients who only knew it was possible prayers were being said for
them."

I do. It's called stress.

Terry Austin

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Jan 28, 2007, 1:56:43 PM1/28/07
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"Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister" <use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote
in news:1170001502.9...@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com:

I see two possibilities:

1) The placebo effect can be negative.

2) God is an Asshole.

They are not mutually exclusive.

--
Terry Austin
Your worst inhibitions tend to psych you out in the end.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 28, 2007, 2:30:59 PM1/28/07
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neighbor Terry Austin wrote:
> distressed demon wrote:

> > neighbor "simple_langu...@yahoo.com" wrote:
> >
> > "They also said they had no explanation for the higher complication
> > rate in patients who knew they were being prayed for, in comparison to
> > patients who only knew it was possible prayers were being said for
> > them."
> >
> > I do. It's called stress.
> >
> I see two possibilities:
>
> 1) The placebo effect can be negative.
>
> 2) God is an Asshole.
>
> They are not mutually exclusive.

Clearly you are ever seeing but not perceiving along with others of
this world.

This victory belongs to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul,
mind, and strength:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp

Fear GOD and dread nothing that is of this world:

http://TruthRUS.org/DreadNought

Your consolation prize is eternal life if you wisely choose to
surrender to HIM:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay

May you choose wisely at these crossroads in your life:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety, or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ so much more, dear
neighbor Terry whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

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Kurt Gavin

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Jan 28, 2007, 3:26:16 PM1/28/07
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"Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister" <use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote
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Or, they're actually praying to satan when they pray to jesus and his daddy.


James

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Jan 29, 2007, 10:51:47 AM1/29/07
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> This victory belongs to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul,
> mind, and strength:

I honestly desire to love God with all of my heart. But I have yet to
overcome the world, the flesh, and the devil. But I know that the master
potter is working on me, and He is faithful and true.

My dear brother, I believe that I am to ask you if there is a word of
knowledge or prophecy for me? (I am afflicted with AFib)

If not, then I will just take another lap around Mt. Sinai. ;)

Agape'

James

Pastor Kutchie

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Jan 29, 2007, 2:05:46 PM1/29/07
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On Jan 29, 3:51 pm, James <anonymous> wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>
> > This victory belongs to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul,
> > mind, and strength:I honestly desire to love God with all of my heart. But I have yet to
> overcome the world, the flesh, and the devil. But I know that the master
> potter is working on me, and He is faithful and true.
>
> My dear brother, I believe that I am to ask you if there is a word of
> knowledge or prophecy for me? (I am afflicted with AFib)
>

Find a proper doctor.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jan 29, 2007, 5:17:41 PM1/29/07
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brother James wrote:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > This victory belongs to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul,
> > mind, and strength:
>
> I honestly desire to love God with all of my heart. But I have yet to
> overcome the world, the flesh, and the devil.

"For man this is impossible but with GOD all things are possible." --
LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 19:26)

Amen.

> But I know that the master
> potter is working on me, and He is faithful and true.

HE is the way, the truth, and the life.

> My dear brother, I believe that I am to ask you if there is a word of
> knowledge or prophecy for me? (I am afflicted with AFib)

Choose to drink HIS living water (love) and you will have an ever-
renewing spring that will heal your heart and help you keep all HIS
commandments especially the two most important ones:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/love.asp

> If not, then I will just take another lap around Mt. Sinai. ;)
>
> Agape'
>
> James

May what the Holy Spirit has guided me to write encourage you.

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com

Kurt Gavin

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Jan 29, 2007, 8:17:23 PM1/29/07
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emorycardiology.com> wrote in message

> "For man this is possible but with GOD fantasies in Chung's head all
> things are impossible." --
> LORD Jebus Christ (Matthew 19:26)

Amen

Pastor Kutchie

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Jan 30, 2007, 4:05:12 AM1/30/07
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On Jan 29, 10:17 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

<ach...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> brother James wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > > This victory belongs to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul,
> > > mind, and strength:
>
> > I honestly desire to love God with all of my heart. But I have yet to
> > overcome the world, the flesh, and the devil."For man this is impossible but with GOD all things are possible." --
> LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 19:26)
>
> Amen.
>
> > But I know that the master

> > potter is working on me, and He is faithful and true.HE is the way, the truth, and the life.


>
> > My dear brother, I believe that I am to ask you if there is a word of
> > knowledge or prophecy for me? (I am afflicted with AFib)
> Choose to drink HIS living water (love) and you will have an ever-
> renewing spring that will heal your heart and help you keep all HIS
> commandments especially the two most important ones:
>

Is shamanism not a sin?

Mistylien

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Jan 31, 2007, 3:00:30 AM1/31/07
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"James" <anonymous> wrote in message news:LuWdnbZJW62MhSPY...@bright.net...

> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>
>> This victory belongs to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength:
>
> I honestly desire to love God with all of my heart. But I have yet to
> overcome the world, the flesh, and the devil. But I know that the master
> potter is working on me, and He is faithful and true.
>
> My dear brother, I believe that I am to ask you if there is a word of
> knowledge or prophecy for me? (I am afflicted with AFib)

When you come to full realization that Jesus Christ is the
Messiah and that The Bible is His Written Word Just to you, you may
well be received and may go through a joyouus medimorphosis
and you too will be in a Rapturous state and will experiance
great Joy that you too are numbered in His skiem of life.

M,

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Father Haskell

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Jan 31, 2007, 10:45:17 AM1/31/07
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On Jan 31, 3:00 am, "Mistylien" <yardhol...@charter.net> wrote:
> "James" <anonymous> wrote in messagenews:LuWdnbZJW62MhSPY...@bright.net...

> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>
> >> This victory belongs to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength:
>
> > I honestly desire to love God with all of my heart. But I have yet to
> > overcome the world, the flesh, and the devil. But I know that the master
> > potter is working on me, and He is faithful and true.
>
> > My dear brother, I believe that I am to ask you if there is a word of
> > knowledge or prophecy for me? (I am afflicted with AFib)
>
> When you come to full realization that Jesus Christ is the
> Messiah and that The Bible is His Written Word Just to you, you may
> well be received and may go through a joyouus medimorphosis
> and you too will be in a Rapturous state and will experiance
> great Joy that you too are numbered in His skiem of life.

Which differs from _Juggs_ Magazine how?

Father Haskell

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Jan 31, 2007, 10:48:53 AM1/31/07
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On Jan 29, 10:51 am, James <anonymous> wrote:
>
> Agape'

Close your mouth when you eat, James.

Father Haskell

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Jan 31, 2007, 10:53:28 AM1/31/07
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On Jan 28, 3:26 pm, "Kurt Gavin" <dontbot...@ignore.com> wrote:
> "Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister" <use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote
> in messagenews:1170001502.9...@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...

>
>
>
> > On Jan 28, 3:46 pm, "simple_langu...@yahoo.com"
> > <simple_langu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12082681/
>
> > "They also said they had no explanation for the higher complication
> > rate in patients who knew they were being prayed for, in comparison to
> > patients who only knew it was possible prayers were being said for
> > them."
>
> > I do. It's called stress.
>
> Or, they're actually praying to satan when they pray to jesus and his daddy.

Then LaVey was a liar, because he never got sick a day
in his life.


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Whew_NotYuppie

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Jan 31, 2007, 1:02:26 PM1/31/07
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"malscribe" <wri...@rotted.pencil> wrote in message
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> Father Haskell shamelessly exposed this to the world:
> Ever read "Song Of Solomon"? Soft core porn, sans pictures.

Have someone read it to you while watching On Golden Blond


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Father Haskell

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Feb 1, 2007, 2:41:46 AM2/1/07
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On Jan 31, 10:32 pm, malscribe <wri...@rotted.pencil> wrote:
> Father Haskell shamelessly exposed this to the world:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 31, 11:30 am, malscribe <wri...@rotted.pencil> wrote:
> >> Father Haskell shamelessly exposed this to the world:
>
> >> Ever read "Song Of Solomon"? Soft core porn, sans pictures.
>
> > Ever read Leviticus? People fucking cows, sans pictures.
>
> Genesis: Brothers fucking their sisters. Daughters fucking their father.

None of which was a sin until god said so, sometime later. Up
until then, fucking anything on legs including the furniture was
apparently okay.


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