Re: Jesus said: "This Generation"
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
> > Thanks for that, Saint Zombie!
> >
> > But they will argue that all that does not fit is meant Spiritually
> > only.
> >
> > Weird, "Pastor" Dave could not even say "Amen" to the Lord's Prayer
> > without adding. Instead of "Thy kingdom come" he had to say that it has
> > already come. It is really not worth an idea if he could be right. He
> > changes Scripture until it fits to his weird ideas. Where is that life
> > here on earth without pain, dears or death? I cannot see it. May the
> > Lord have mercy on Dave...
>
> Do you think Dave and I are the only ones in the whole wide world to
> ever see all this within the scriptures? No way! I know it seems like
> it in this sea of wickedness called the web as you surf it, but If you
> look into it, you will find that this understanding of scriptures has
> been around since the first century! Many millions have agreed
> throughout all time, many familiar names, and there are many-many
> today. Let me get this straight, You pray that the kingdom of God will
> come with observation when Jesus said the kingdom of God will not come
> with observation, or be here or there? Why is that?
She does not like the wickedness that she sees in this world.
> You don't believe Jesus?
She knows Jesus.
She knows in her heart that HE will return.
Such is the work of the Holy Spirit.
May the Holy Spirit make your heart more discerning, dear Flowerchild.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> In news:tlg6d2ho4nli1f40d...@4ax.com,
> Pastor Dave <_-anania...@tampabay.rr.com> typed:
> > On 4 Aug 2006 00:42:15 -0700, "Flowerchild8245"
> > <flowerc...@netzero.com> spake thusly:
> >
> >>>>> veralein ::: wrote:
> >>> Dear me! So you mean there are also others who cannot pray the
> >>> Lord's Dinner anymore without changing it to their likings?
> >>>
> >>> Thy kingdom come!
> >>>
> >>> Amen?
> >>
> >> A big AMEN to "thy kingdom come"!
> >
> > I don't pray for what has already come.
>
> How sad - you cannot say "amen" to the Lord's Prayer.
>
> It is what Jesus told us how to pray...
>
> Our Father, who is in Heaven,
>
> Hallowed be Your name.
>
>
>
>
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> Your kingdom come,
>
>
>
>
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> Your will be done,
>
> on earth as it is in Heaven.
>
> Give us this day our daily bread;
>
> and forgive us our debts as we also forgive our debtors.
>
> And lead us not into temptation,
>
> but deliver us from the evil.
>
> For Yours is the kingdom,
>
> and the power,
>
> and the glory,
>
> forever.
>
> Amen.
>
> (Matthew 6:9-13 MKJV)
>
>
> Jerry is not as deep into your false teaching as you would like him to
> be as it seems... He still accepts the Lord's Prayer as what it is.
>
> What now, "Pastor" Dave? Will you agree to disagree with him on that?
> But that would mean that one of you has changed Scripture... Or will you
> say that the Lord's Prayer was only meant to the Disciples?
>
> I wonder about this, too, "Pastor"... You see, we are to pray that the
> Lord shall deliver us from the evil... Is that still valid for you? I
> mean, in the New Jerusalem there would not be anything evil, would
> there?
>
> Your Kingdom come, Lord!
>
> Amen.
>
>
> ::: vera :::
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> John 3:16-17 WEB For God so loved the world, that he gave his one and
> only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have
> eternal life. For God didn't send his Son into the world to judge the
> world, but that the world should be saved through him.
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Marana tha !
May GOD heal your heart, dear sister Vera.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 17:34:49 +0200, " ::: veralein :::"
> <vera...@lycos.com> spake thusly:
>
> >>> A big AMEN to "thy kingdom come"!
> >>
> >> I don't pray for what has already come.
> >
> >How sad - you cannot say "amen" to the Lord's Prayer.
> >
> >It is what Jesus told us how to pray...
>
Where is it written that LORD Jesus Christ told HIS Apostles that the
prayer HE suggested would need to change after the "end of the age" ?
This is a rhetorical question where everyone knows that the answer is
"Nowhere."
Moreover, HIS Apostles asked HIM simply how they should pray and not
how they should pray for just the moment.
> Why would I pray for it AFTER it came?
Correct.
There would be no need for prayer of **any** kind AFTER the "end of the
age."
The new heaven, new earth, new Jerusalem, and our new resurrection
bodies (like those of angels) would establish for us a constant
everlasting communion with GOD obviating any need for prayers. We will
not want for food (no hunger), water (no thirst), or light (GOD will be
our light) or anything else within HIS kingdom. Moreover, GOD will
wipe away every tear we will be shedding for the lost souls that will
have been destroyed.
If you are still praying, the "end of the age" has not yet happened.
Truth is simple.
Truth is absolute.
Truth is invincible.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life ... " -- LORD Jesus Christ
Laus Deo !
Marana tha !
May GOD heal your heart making it more discerning, dear brother Dave.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
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> "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass,
> till all these things be fulfilled." - Matthew 24:34
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> "For the word of God is sharper than any two edged sword."
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> God answers kneemail.
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you were at the stop light?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> What did the police say to you when you were dragged from the car while
>
> you were at the stop light?
Demonic growling and grunting. Witnesses reported that because the
officers were not saying anything intelligible that they believed I was
a foreigner that did not speak English obviating the need for the
officers to speak to me in the usual fashion when they apprehend a
suspect (no commands to get out of the car, to commands to raise up
hands, Miranda, etc).
They also reported that the only word they heard from me was "Help !"
which was the only word that the Holy Spirit compelled me to say outside
of my prayer which was simply "Help me LORD... this is all up to YOU. I
surrender to YOUR will. THY will be done."
May GOD heal your heart, dear neighbor Lisa
Al
>
> They also reported that the only word they heard from me was "Help !"
> which was the only word that the Holy Spirit compelled me to say outside
> of my prayer which was simply "Help me LORD... this is all up to YOU. I
> surrender to YOUR will. THY will be done."
>
You fucking whacko!
Steve Marcus
"Al" <a...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:eb27n...@enews3.newsguy.com...
And you keep replying to him. Are you certain that you've identified the
whacko correctly?
Steve
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Al
> "Al" <a...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:eb27n...@enews3.newsguy.com...
>> Andrew B. Chung, Idiot, wrote:
>>
>>> They also reported that the only word they heard from me was "Help !"
>>> which was the only word that the Holy Spirit compelled me to say outside
>>> of my prayer which was simply "Help me LORD... this is all up to YOU. I
>>> surrender to YOUR will. THY will be done."
>> You fucking whacko!
>
> And you keep replying to him. Are you certain that you've identified the
> whacko correctly?
>
> Steve
yes, puppet, I have. Forgive all my inequities.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Name-calling shows that you are lost.
> Forgive all my inequities.
You are forgiven as far as I am concerned.
May GOD heal your heart, dear neighbor Al.
Steve Marcus
"Al" <a...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:eb4md...@enews1.newsguy.com...
Well asshole, I doubt that you've identified the whacko correctly.
Regardless of how misguided Chung is, and he is deeply misguided, he is at
least accomplishing something that he views as being positive by engaging
people in what he perceives to be a religious dialogue. He thus enables
himself to respond to those people in a way that he perceives (misguidely)
to be the presentation of the "righteous" response to nonbelievers.
You, on the other hand, as a 14 year old (sorry, you did admit to being 14
1/2, didn't you) post simply to be able to read your name on your monitor.
Your posts accomplish nothing exept to fill the newsgroup with extra posts,
typically loaded with foul language. They are so week that Chung rarely
even deigns to reply to you.
Why not try going making a friend or two in the real world, rather than
spending time behind your computer, lost in your whacko belief that posting
to newgroups makes you intelligent or important?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> "Al" <a...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:eb4md...@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > Steve Marcus wrote:
> >> "Al" <a...@nospam.net> wrote in message
> >> news:eb27n...@enews3.newsguy.com...
> >>>
> >>>> They also reported that the only word they heard from me was "Help !"
> >>>> which was the only word that the Holy Spirit compelled me to say
> >>>> outside
> >>>> of my prayer which was simply "Help me LORD... this is all up to YOU. I
> >>>> surrender to YOUR will. THY will be done."
> >>> You fucking whacko!
> >>
> >> And you keep replying to him. Are you certain that you've identified the
> >> whacko correctly?
> >>
> >> Steve
> >
> > yes, puppet, I have. Forgive all my inequities.
>
> Well asshole, I doubt that you've identified the whacko correctly.
>
> Regardless of how misguided Chung is, and he is deeply misguided, he is at
> least accomplishing something that he views as being positive by engaging
> people in what he perceives to be a religious dialogue. He thus enables
> himself to respond to those people in a way that he perceives (misguidely)
> to be the presentation of the "righteous" response to nonbelievers.
>
> You, on the other hand, as a 14 year old (sorry, you did admit to being 14
> 1/2, didn't you) post simply to be able to read your name on your monitor.
> Your posts accomplish nothing exept to fill the newsgroup with extra posts,
> even deigns to reply to you.
>
> Why not try going making a friend or two in the real world, rather than
> spending time behind your computer, lost in your whacko belief that posting
> to newgroups makes you intelligent or important?
>
> Steve
The name-calling shows you are lost.
Instead of misguided, you are unguided.
Moreover, the hate you have for Al is hurting your heart.
May GOD heal your heart, dear neighbor Steve.
Al
blah blah blah
You've got a killfile, Puppet. Use it on ME!!!
Steve Marcus
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154871017....@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
Dr. Chung,
Do not presume to pray for me. I am not of your faith. In fact, the person
whom you choose to label god was of my faith. Instead, you would do well in
the eyes of the god you believe in to consider what I wrote above.
Do you really believe that your god chooses for you to clog up this
newsgroup by responding to those who attack you? Do you really believe that
your god wishes for you to drive away those who post in this newsgroup
seeking medical information by forcing your religious beliefs on them, and
by inciting those who do not wish to deal with your religious beliefs (which
have nothing to do with the religious beliefs that they themselves may hold)
to clog up this newsgroup? Do you think that your god wants you to take
time away from the time that you could use to respond to those asking
medical questions here by spending that time preaching your religious views?
I submit to you that you, being human, may well be wrong regarding your
interpretation of scripture, and your conclusion that you know what your god
wishes you to do (a very presumptuous conclusion indeed. I further submit
to you that if you claim to be able to both respond to medical inquiries and
preach/proselytize here, you are committing a sin in the eyes of your god by
lying. Finally, I submit to you that you will best serve your god by
serving man, and you will best serve man *in this newsgroup* by responding
to medical inquiries, contributing medical knowledge, and foregoing the
preaching/proselytizing.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> Do not presume to pray for me.
It remains my choice.
> I am not of your faith.
You are my neighbor.
> In fact, the person whom you choose to label god was of my faith.
In truth, in physical appearance when HE was here on earth, HE did
appear to be of your ethnic heritage.
> Instead, you would do well in
> the eyes of the god you believe in to consider what I wrote above.
You don't know HIM well enough to speak for HIM.
Indeed, even though through the Holy Spirit I know HIM well enough, it
remains my choice to not speak for HIM.
> Do you really believe that your god chooses for you to clog up this
> newsgroup by responding to those who attack you?
In truth, I respond only when guided by the Holy Spirit to respond.
> Do you really believe that
> your god wishes for you to drive away those who post in this newsgroup
> seeking medical information by forcing your religious beliefs on them, and
> by inciting those who do not wish to deal with your religious beliefs (which
> have nothing to do with the religious beliefs that they themselves may hold)
> to clog up this newsgroup?
In truth, if it were not my LORD's will for me to serve in the manner
HE would have me serve here, I would not.
> Do you think that your god wants you to take
> time away from the time that you could use to respond to those asking
> medical questions here by spending that time preaching your religious views?
In truth, being openly Christian is not being religious but being
spiritual.
Christianity is not a religion as defined by the world but a
relationship with the risen Christ Jesus as seen by HIM.
> I submit to you that you, being human, may well be wrong regarding your
> interpretation of scripture, and your conclusion that you know what your god
> wishes you to do (a very presumptuous conclusion indeed. I further submit
> to you that if you claim to be able to both respond to medical inquiries and
> preach/proselytize here, you are committing a sin in the eyes of your god by
> lying. Finally, I submit to you that you will best serve your god by
> serving man, and you will best serve man *in this newsgroup* by responding
> to medical inquiries, contributing medical knowledge, and foregoing the
> preaching/proselytizing.
In truth, just as my LORD is not of this world, I am no longer of this
world. Just as LORD Jesus Christ helped people as LORD Jesus Christ,
HE has me helping people as one of HIS, as one who has been reborn of
water and the Holy Spirit. The world is incapable of understanding the
coming and goings of those who have been reborn of water and the Holy
Spirit and so those of this world would opine sin where there has been
no sin. Indeed, doing the will of GOD is the highest form of
righteousness in the universe. The Holy Spirit helps us know the will
of GOD.
May GOD continue to heal your heart, dear neighbor Steve.
The Lord, pt. II
> Dr. Chung,
>
> Do not presume to pray for me. I am not of your faith. In fact, the person
> whom you choose to label god was of my faith. Instead, you would do well in
> the eyes of the god you believe in to consider what I wrote above.
>
> Do you really believe that your god chooses for you to clog up this
> newsgroup by responding to those who attack you? Do you really believe that
> your god wishes for you to drive away those who post in this newsgroup
> seeking medical information by forcing your religious beliefs on them, and
> by inciting those who do not wish to deal with your religious beliefs (which
> have nothing to do with the religious beliefs that they themselves may hold)
> to clog up this newsgroup? Do you think that your god wants you to take
> time away from the time that you could use to respond to those asking
> medical questions here by spending that time preaching your religious views?
>
> I submit to you that you, being human, may well be wrong regarding your
> interpretation of scripture, and your conclusion that you know what your god
> wishes you to do (a very presumptuous conclusion indeed. I further submit
> to you that if you claim to be able to both respond to medical inquiries and
> preach/proselytize here, you are committing a sin in the eyes of your god by
> lying. Finally, I submit to you that you will best serve your god by
> serving man, and you will best serve man *in this newsgroup* by responding
> to medical inquiries, contributing medical knowledge, and foregoing the
> preaching/proselytizing.
Well, well, well...
Starting to get the point, Steve-o?
Starting to understand the frustrations of many around here?
Steve Marcus
Your choice is presumptuous. More importantly, your choice wastes time.
Your god gave you the ability to obtain the knowledge to help people on this
earth. That you choose to waste it praying for people who do not need, or
simply do not want, your prayers cannot sit well with your god, or with any
logical god.
Have you considered that you are mistaken in your belief that the choice to
pray for people who do not want or need your prayers may be the devil's
choice, and not your god's choice?
>
>> I am not of your faith.
>
> You are my neighbor.
No I'm not. We live in different states, we have different beliefs, and we
do not know each other except through the medium of this newsgroup.
>
>> In fact, the person whom you choose to label god was of my faith.
>
> In truth, in physical appearance when HE was here on earth, HE did
> appear to be of your ethnic heritage.
You have that wrong. Your god did appear to some men who had political axes
to grind to be a god. You have no proof otherwise. On the other hand,
there is proof aplenty to support what I just wrote.
But again, you waste time and energy discussing this in a forum that is
inappropriate for the discussion. If you believe that your god wishes you
to do that, I suggest that either your god is crazy (which is an
impossibility in your belief system), or you are mistaken and have been
tricked by the devil into believing that you are doing god's work by
proselytizing in this newsgroup. In fact, you are wasting god's gift to
you.
>
>> Instead, you would do well in
>> the eyes of the god you believe in to consider what I wrote above.
>
> You don't know HIM well enough to speak for HIM.
It matters not what you think i know of your god. It is clear that if your
god isn't crazy, then it is clear that if you believe that your god wishes
you to waste time here, alienating people who need medical help, then either
you are mistaken or your god is crazy (which is an impossibility in your
belief system). You have been tricked by the devil into believing that you
are doing god's work by proselytizing in this newsgroup. In fact, you are
wasting god's gift to you. To that sin, you are adding the sin of huburus
when you claim that you know your god well enough to speak for your god.
> Indeed, even though through the Holy Spirit I know HIM well enough, it
> remains my choice to not speak for HIM.
By posting religious material on this newsgroup, you are in fact speaking
for him. The devil has blinded you to that.
>
>> Do you really believe that your god chooses for you to clog up this
>> newsgroup by responding to those who attack you?
>
> In truth, I respond only when guided by the Holy Spirit to respond.
In truth, the devil has indeed tricked you.
>
>> Do you really believe that
>> your god wishes for you to drive away those who post in this newsgroup
>> seeking medical information by forcing your religious beliefs on them,
>> and
>> by inciting those who do not wish to deal with your religious beliefs
>> (which
>> have nothing to do with the religious beliefs that they themselves may
>> hold)
>> to clog up this newsgroup?
>
> In truth, if it were not my LORD's will for me to serve in the manner
> HE would have me serve here, I would not.
Again, the sin of pride. In truth, you really do not know what your god's
will is. If you did, you would confine your posts to medical information,
confound your enemies here by not giving them grist for their mill, and aid
those who are sick or suffering by giving deeper and better advice.
>
>> Do you think that your god wants you to take
>> time away from the time that you could use to respond to those asking
>> medical questions here by spending that time preaching your religious
>> views?
>
> In truth, being openly Christian is not being religious but being
> spiritual.
That is a non-answer. Whether characterized as being religious or being
spiritual, your posts here hinder your ability to give medical information
to those who are in need of such information. You have allowed yourself to
be led away from using god's gift to you, and have instead created a forum
in which the enemies of your good now hold sway.
You should look after your own soul, Andrew, because by any logical
analysis, your soul (if you believe you have one) is in mortal danger.
>
> Christianity is not a religion as defined by the world but a
> relationship with the risen Christ Jesus as seen by HIM.
Spouting that sort of platitude doesn't change a thing. You have allowed
yourself to be led away from using god's gift to you, and have instead
created a forum in which the enemies of your good now hold sway
>
>> I submit to you that you, being human, may well be wrong regarding your
>> interpretation of scripture, and your conclusion that you know what your
>> god
>> wishes you to do (a very presumptuous conclusion indeed. I further
>> submit
>> to you that if you claim to be able to both respond to medical inquiries
>> and
>> preach/proselytize here, you are committing a sin in the eyes of your god
>> by
>> lying. Finally, I submit to you that you will best serve your god by
>> serving man, and you will best serve man *in this newsgroup* by
>> responding
>> to medical inquiries, contributing medical knowledge, and foregoing the
>> preaching/proselytizing.
>
> In truth, just as my LORD is not of this world, I am no longer of this
> world.
Then your posts do not belong in this newsgroup. By continuing to post in
this newsgroup, you are misusing and dishonoring your god given (if you
believe in your god) medical abilities, and giving the enemies of your god a
forum to post their anti-god posts. There are ample newsgroups in which
your god's beliefs, and your spiritual and religious beliefs would be on
topic. In this newsgroup, they simply do the devil's work.
> Just as LORD Jesus Christ helped people as LORD Jesus Christ,
> HE has me helping people as one of HIS, as one who has been reborn of
> water and the Holy Spirit. The world is incapable of understanding the
> coming and goings of those who have been reborn of water and the Holy
> Spirit and so those of this world would opine sin where there has been
> no sin. Indeed, doing the will of GOD is the highest form of
> righteousness in the universe. The Holy Spirit helps us know the will
> of GOD.
The devil has you fooled, Andrew. Your soul is in immortal danger. I hope
that your god gives you the ability to see that, and to look to changing
things around.
>
> May GOD continue to heal your heart, dear neighbor Steve.
After three infarcs, Andrew, I doubt that any god can heal my heart.
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Andrew B. Chung
> Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
>
Steve
Steve Marcus
"The Lord, pt. II" <chungism...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1154935405.7...@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
What makes you think that I didn't understand the point? It appears that
you've missed my point, which is that posting the type of posts that you,
Al, and others post here only encourage Chung to post more of his claptrap.
On the other hand, Chung's posts used to be confined to medical topics, and
were often quite valuable.
Just as he could end the necessity for people such as you and Al to post
their claptrap in this newsgroup by omitting the religious material, you
could end his perceived necessity by ceasing to post your particular brand
of claptrap. Essentially, my view is: a pox on both your houses.
I shall continue to direct posts to Chung to the extent that I believe that
by doing so, he might see the light. I shall not continue to direct posts
of this sort to you or to Al, because neither of you have a snowball's
chance in hell of seeing the light, to wit, that you've taken a situation in
which people looking for medical information not only have to wad through
Chung's crap, but have to tolerate yours (and worse, Al's) too.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
My love for you compels me to make this choice.
> More importantly, your choice wastes time.
Praying to GOD has never been a waste of time in my experience. It
saddens me that this apparently has not been your experience.
> Your god gave you the ability to obtain the knowledge to help people on this
> earth.
... so that people will see the good works and learning their Source
seek HIM out to thank and praise HIM. Laus Deo !
> That you choose to waste it praying for people who do not need, or
> simply do not want, your prayers cannot sit well with your god, or with any
> logical god.
If you knew our GOD well enough to speak for HIM, you would not hold
the opinion that prayer for anybody is a waste of time.
Indeed, though I know HIM well enough to speak for HIM, it remains my
choice to refrain from this.
Instead, the Holy Spirit guides me to inform you that GOD is the Source
of all time and reality and that you need not fear having less of it
because of prayer but expect more of it as a consequence.
> Have you considered that you are mistaken in your belief that the choice to
> pray for people who do not want or need your prayers may be the devil's
> choice, and not your god's choice?
The choice to pray for others is made through the free will that GOD
has generously given me. If this choice pleased the evil forces of
this world, you would not longer witness their ill will which has been
distressing you. Indeed, you know my case has been infinitely
strengthened by their behavior, which they can not help.
The creatures of darkness are drawn to the light that they hate.
Their presence is proof of the light even if you are blind and unable
to see the light.
You feel these creatures flying about brushing against your face and
crawling in your hair.
It is my wish that GOD will help you see and help the creatures of
darkness become creatures of light.
> >
> >> I am not of your faith.
> >
> > You are my neighbor.
>
> No I'm not.
In truth, you are.
> We live in different states
We could be visiting each other in person within 24 hours.
> , we have different beliefs,
Neighbors often do.
> and we
> do not know each other except through the medium of this newsgroup.
If I found you injured on the side of the road, I would definitely
dress your wounds and pray that GOD would heal you through me.
> >> In fact, the person whom you choose to label god was of my faith.
> >
> > In truth, in physical appearance when HE was here on earth, HE did
> > appear to be of your ethnic heritage.
>
> You have that wrong.
The Bible is not wrong.
> Your god did appear to some men who had political axes
> to grind to be a god.
HE also appeared to women who would not have had any political
aspirations at that time.
> You have no proof otherwise.
Then it is interesting what the Holy Spirit has just guided me to
write.
> On the other hand,
> there is proof aplenty to support what I just wrote.
You may certainly attempt to prove that the women also had political
aspirations.
> But again, you waste time and energy discussing this in a forum that is
> inappropriate for the discussion.
The Holy Spirit continues to guide me in everything I say, do, and
write. It remains my choice to receive HIS guidance as I have for most
of my life without regret. Indeed, looking back HIS guidance has
provided more time not less and has made life much more abundant.
> If you believe that your god wishes you
> to do that, I suggest that either your god is crazy (which is an
> impossibility in your belief system), or you are mistaken and have been
> tricked by the devil into believing that you are doing god's work by
> proselytizing in this newsgroup.
You know that your becoming more aware of the light of the truth, Who
is LORD Jesus Christ, emanating from my heart is not the result of a
willful act of proselytizing on my part but the result of GOD's will in
drawing the creatures of darkness to the light.
> In fact, you are wasting god's gift to you.
"You are the light of the world. A city on a hill cannot be hidden.
Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they
put it on a stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. In the
same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good
deeds and praise your Father in heaven." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew
5:14-16)
> >> Instead, you would do well in
> >> the eyes of the god you believe in to consider what I wrote above.
> >
> > You don't know HIM well enough to speak for HIM.
>
> It matters not what you think i know of your god. It is clear that if your
> god isn't crazy, then it is clear that if you believe that your god wishes
> you to waste time here, alienating people who need medical help, then either
> you are mistaken or your god is crazy (which is an impossibility in your
> belief system). You have been tricked by the devil into believing that you
> are doing god's work by proselytizing in this newsgroup.
Your believing in the devil is progress toward believing in GOD, whom
the devil hates.
> In fact, you are
> wasting god's gift to you. To that sin, you are adding the sin of huburus
> when you claim that you know your god well enough to speak for your god.
Indeed, most assuredly without doubt, I know our LORD to be kind, just,
and right.
> > Indeed, even though through the Holy Spirit I know HIM well enough, it
> > remains my choice to not speak for HIM.
>
> By posting religious material on this newsgroup, you are in fact speaking
> for him.
Not as you have.
> The devil has blinded you to that.
In truth, the devil has no powers except that which is given to him by
the creatures of darkness. Moreover, what little powers he has is
dispelled by the light of the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ.
> >> Do you really believe that your god chooses for you to clog up this
> >> newsgroup by responding to those who attack you?
> >
> > In truth, I respond only when guided by the Holy Spirit to respond.
>
> In truth, the devil has indeed tricked you.
Many thanks and praises to GOD for your believing in the existence of
the devil even if you believe that he has power over the creatures of
the light and the Holy Spirit, Who guides them.
Laus Deo !
> >> Do you really believe that
> >> your god wishes for you to drive away those who post in this newsgroup
> >> seeking medical information by forcing your religious beliefs on them,
> >> and
> >> by inciting those who do not wish to deal with your religious beliefs
> >> (which
> >> have nothing to do with the religious beliefs that they themselves may
> >> hold)
> >> to clog up this newsgroup?
> >
> > In truth, if it were not my LORD's will for me to serve in the manner
> > HE would have me serve here, I would not.
>
> Again, the sin of pride.
Not for the discerning.
> In truth, you really do not know what your god's will is.
In the Holy Spirit, I do.
> If you did, you would confine your posts to medical information,
> confound your enemies here by not giving them grist for their mill, and aid
> those who are sick or suffering by giving deeper and better advice.
The latter occurs when the Holy Spirit compels folks to seek me out in
person.
> >> Do you think that your god wants you to take
> >> time away from the time that you could use to respond to those asking
> >> medical questions here by spending that time preaching your religious
> >> views?
> >
> > In truth, being openly Christian is not being religious but being
> > spiritual.
>
> That is a non-answer.
No such thing.
> Whether characterized as being religious or being
> spiritual, your posts here hinder your ability to give medical information
> to those who are in need of such information.
That is not what I discern.
> You have allowed yourself to
> be led away from using god's gift to you, and have instead created a forum
> in which the enemies of your good now hold sway.
Your becoming more aware of the enemy and his creatures of darkness is
actually such a tremendous blessing that makes everything that much
more worthwhile.
> You should look after your own soul, Andrew, because by any logical
> analysis, your soul (if you believe you have one) is in mortal danger.
Many thanks and praises to GOD for your heartfelt concerns for my soul.
Would appreciate your actuating your concerns into prayer so that we
would both be that much more blessed.
> > Christianity is not a religion as defined by the world but a
> > relationship with the risen Christ Jesus as seen by HIM.
>
> Spouting that sort of platitude doesn't change a thing.
It is the truth.
> You have allowed
> yourself to be led away from using god's gift to you, and have instead
> created a forum in which the enemies of your good now hold sway
See above.
> >> I submit to you that you, being human, may well be wrong regarding your
> >> interpretation of scripture, and your conclusion that you know what your
> >> god
> >> wishes you to do (a very presumptuous conclusion indeed. I further
> >> submit
> >> to you that if you claim to be able to both respond to medical inquiries
> >> and
> >> preach/proselytize here, you are committing a sin in the eyes of your god
> >> by
> >> lying. Finally, I submit to you that you will best serve your god by
> >> serving man, and you will best serve man *in this newsgroup* by
> >> responding
> >> to medical inquiries, contributing medical knowledge, and foregoing the
> >> preaching/proselytizing.
> >
> > In truth, just as my LORD is not of this world, I am no longer of this
> > world.
>
> Then your posts do not belong in this newsgroup.
They do by the simple fact that there is no other cardiologist
participating here on a regular basis.
> By continuing to post in
> this newsgroup, you are misusing and dishonoring your god given (if you
> believe in your god) medical abilities, and giving the enemies of your god a
> forum to post their anti-god posts. There are ample newsgroups in which
> your god's beliefs, and your spiritual and religious beliefs would be on
> topic. In this newsgroup, they simply do the devil's work.
In truth, your becoming more aware of the devil and his creatures of
darkness is GOD's work.
> > Just as LORD Jesus Christ helped people as LORD Jesus Christ,
> > HE has me helping people as one of HIS, as one who has been reborn of
> > water and the Holy Spirit. The world is incapable of understanding the
> > coming and goings of those who have been reborn of water and the Holy
> > Spirit and so those of this world would opine sin where there has been
> > no sin. Indeed, doing the will of GOD is the highest form of
> > righteousness in the universe. The Holy Spirit helps us know the will
> > of GOD.
>
> The devil has you fooled, Andrew. Your soul is in immortal danger. I hope
> that your god gives you the ability to see that, and to look to changing
> things around.
You forget my GOD-given past.
> > May GOD continue to heal your heart, dear neighbor Steve.
>
> After three infarcs, Andrew, I doubt that any god can heal my heart.
"My LORD **and** my GOD ! " -- "Doubting" Thomas upon seeing the risen
Christ Jesus.
May GOD remove all your doubts as HE did for Apostle Thomas, dear
neighbor Steve.
Al
that you've taken a situation in
> which people looking for medical information not only have to wad through
> Chung's crap, but have to tolerate yours (and worse, Al's) too.
Indeed you do NOT. Use your killfile. You KNOW I'm not a doctor, so do
me first, and you won't miss any medical information.
Once again, in case you have a reading comprehension problem, I say to
you that when Chung stops posting his religious crap in a cardiology
newsgroup, I will GLADLY disappear. Until then, I will try to make him
more nuts than he is already. Notice how he will NOT respond to my oft
repeated pointing to his big lie about exorcism?
No offense to you personally, Steve, but if you want to play cop, do it
elsewhere.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:
> > AcesLucky wrote:
> > > > In fact, I love the wisdom of God on this. By making Himself appear
> > > > only by Faith, the loyal and just believe and are saved, while the
> > > > rebellious and self-absorbed go to hell by being dominated by their
> > > > flesh. If God made it easy to believe, who wouldn't do it...just to
> > > > save their own skins (a false commitment). This way, the heart
> > > > determines the destiny.
> > >
> > > You completely avoided the question via redirection with that crap
> > > above, which has nothing to do with what was asked. So here it is again:
> > > (TheWatchDog asked)
> > >
> > > ---
> > > If you have superpowers as you say, you should be able to demonstrate
> > > them. The demonstration would likely help bring many, many souls to
> > > Chrisitianity - your goal in life, it seems, and one that, as far as I
> > > can tell frrom your posts, God would be very, very pleased with. So go
> > > ahead.
> > > ---
> > > Now. Are you going to demonstrate your super powers? Or are you, once
> > > again, going to avoid the truth and find an excuse?
> > >
> > > ___ Yes, I'm going to demonstrate my superpowers.
> > > ___ No, I'm a fraud.
> > >
> > > Any excuse not equal to "Yes" defaults to "No" and declares you a fraud
> > > in fact.
> > >
> > > My name is AcesLucky and I approve this challenge.
> >
> > I demonstrate my powers daily. I pray, and prayers are answered. I
> > trust God, and I am protected. I ask for healing, and I receive it.
> >
> > I wouldn't offer advice I haven't tested. I know it works, for it
> > worked for me. Since I began on these groups, I've had witches cast
> > spells on me, been threatened by Satanists, and much more. The result?
> > My income has doubled. My goods have increased. My family has grown
> > tighter. I am currently living the dream I had for my life.
>
> Ken, every time you tell people that your income has doubled and your
> goods increased since you accepted Jesus, you tempt people to follow
> Jesus for material gains.
>
> Every time you tell people that we're all as bad as Lucifer, and
> deserve the same punishment, but can escape it if (and only if) we turn
> to Jesus, you tempt people to follow Jesus to save their own skins.
>
> Every time you tell people that Christians have superpowers, you tempt
> people to follow Jesus so that they can obtain superpowers.
>
> What you are doing here is in complete contradiction to God's plan (as
> you describe it) for filtering out people who are making "false
> commitments" for personal gain. YOU are the one tempting people to make
> false commitments. Why are you so opposed to God's plan?
In truth, Ken remains obedient to GOD's second of two most important
commandments.
Ken loves others, including those enemies who would mock and ridicule
him, just as he would love his own family members.
How do we know?
What you have witnessed is the actuation of his wish that his enemies
be saved.
It really does not matter what the initial motivation for accepting
Christ Jesus' offer of salvation might have been.
All sins will be forgiven except blaspheming the Holy Spirit.
Fyi, the Holy Spirit continues to guide me in everything I say, do, and
write.
May GOD continue to heal your heart, dear neighbor.
Kurt Gavin
someone like Andrew Chung and the stuff he obsessively posts.
He mentions an incident in which he was supposedly beaten to death by
police, about nine years ago. Head injury?
Obviously, no one would do a full scale evaluation of someone from what they
post in NGs, but there must some broad conclusions that would be possible.
Steve Marcus
You cannot claim to love me, for you do something on my behalf that I
consider to be presumptuous, and therefore wrong. That is not the way to
express love.
If you wish to express love, you will turn this newsgroup over to people
(including yourself) who assist other people on cardiological issues. By
persisting in your proselytizing, you are displaying hate towards those
people not love.
>
>> More importantly, your choice wastes time.
>
> Praying to GOD has never been a waste of time in my experience. It
> saddens me that this apparently has not been your experience.
You were given a gift by your god. You waste time that could be used to
exercise the gift.
>
>> Your god gave you the ability to obtain the knowledge to help people on
>> this
>> earth.
>
> ... so that people will see the good works and learning their Source
> seek HIM out to thank and praise HIM. Laus Deo !
You are not helping people on this newsgroup in the way that they need help,
or in the way that they desire help. You aren't doing your god's work here.
>
>> That you choose to waste it praying for people who do not need, or
>> simply do not want, your prayers cannot sit well with your god, or with
>> any
>> logical god.
>
> If you knew our GOD well enough to speak for HIM, you would not hold
> the opinion that prayer for anybody is a waste of time.
You presume that I do not pray, and that my own prayers are insufficient to
benefit me. This, again, is the sin of huburus.
>
> Indeed, though I know HIM well enough to speak for HIM, it remains my
> choice to refrain from this.
That, my dear Andrew, is blasphemy. You have no brief from your god to
speak for your god. It is becoming clearer and clearer that you are
possessed by the devil. You should look to your own soul.
>
> Instead, the Holy Spirit guides me to inform you that GOD is the Source
> of all time and reality and that you need not fear having less of it
> because of prayer but expect more of it as a consequence.
>
>> Have you considered that you are mistaken in your belief that the choice
>> to
>> pray for people who do not want or need your prayers may be the devil's
>> choice, and not your god's choice?
>
> The choice to pray for others is made through the free will that GOD
> has generously given me. If this choice pleased the evil forces of
> this world, you would not longer witness their ill will which has been
> distressing you. Indeed, you know my case has been infinitely
> strengthened by their behavior, which they can not help.
Re-read what you wrote. It is clear that you are simply babbling; clearly,
the devil's work is what you are doing here.
>
> The creatures of darkness are drawn to the light that they hate.
>
> Their presence is proof of the light even if you are blind and unable
> to see the light.
>
> You feel these creatures flying about brushing against your face and
> crawling in your hair.
>
> It is my wish that GOD will help you see and help the creatures of
> darkness become creatures of light.
>
>> >
>> >> I am not of your faith.
>> >
>> > You are my neighbor.
>>
>> No I'm not.
>
> In truth, you are.
>
>> We live in different states
>
> We could be visiting each other in person within 24 hours.
Which hardly makes us neighbors.
>
>> , we have different beliefs,
>
> Neighbors often do.
>
>> and we
>> do not know each other except through the medium of this newsgroup.
>
> If I found you injured on the side of the road, I would definitely
> dress your wounds and pray that GOD would heal you through me.
Yet you find me injured (in a cardiological sense) on this newsgroup, and
refrain from assisting me by devoting time to off-topic posts, and by
encouraging others to respond to those off-topic posts. I think you are a
liar, Andrew.
>
>> >> In fact, the person whom you choose to label god was of my faith.
>> >
>> > In truth, in physical appearance when HE was here on earth, HE did
>> > appear to be of your ethnic heritage.
>>
>> You have that wrong.
>
> The Bible is not wrong.
Don't go there, Andrew. The bible is wrong in literally thousands of
places, which is unsurprising given that it was written by men.
>
>> Your god did appear to some men who had political axes
>> to grind to be a god.
>
> HE also appeared to women who would not have had any political
> aspirations at that time.
Now you are ignorant of historical truths. Cleopatra was a woman with
"political aspirations", to name just one (but a well known one).
>
>> You have no proof otherwise.
>
> Then it is interesting what the Holy Spirit has just guided me to
> write.
You confuse the Holy Spirit with the devil.
Steve Marcus
"Al" <a...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:eb7ab...@enews3.newsguy.com...
> Steve Marcus wrote:
> that you've taken a situation in
>> which people looking for medical information not only have to wad through
>> Chung's crap, but have to tolerate yours (and worse, Al's) too.
>
> Indeed you do NOT. Use your killfile. You KNOW I'm not a doctor, so do
> me first, and you won't miss any medical information.
Who the fuck are you to direct me what to do with a killfile, or anything?
Who the fuck are you to decide that you can undertake some sort of crusade
against a given poster? Below you speak of "playing cop." Please explain
how what you are doing is anything other than "playing cop."
>
> Once again, in case you have a reading comprehension problem, I say to you
> that when Chung stops posting his religious crap in a cardiology
> newsgroup, I will GLADLY disappear.
And I say to you that Chung will never stop posting his religious crap in a
cardiology newsgroup while you give him an opportunity to respond to your
crap. It's like thinking that a missionary will stop trying to convert the
Natives if you keep challenging him to stop.
> Until then, I will try to make him more nuts than he is already. Notice
> how he will NOT respond to my oft repeated pointing to his big lie about
> exorcism?
Which, if you had the IQ of the average grey squirrel, should clue you in
that because he's ignoring your posts, the time that it will take for Chung
to stop posting his religious crap in this newsgroup as a result of your
posts would approach infinity.
What I'm attempting to do here is to get him to open his eyes by discussing
his problem in his terms. In his terms, what he's doing is the devil's
bidding, not his god's bidding. His belief otherwise is seriously deluded.
So far, I'm having no success. In short order, if that continues, I'll stop
trying and move on.
>
> No offense to you personally, Steve, but if you want to play cop, do it
> elsewhere.
No offense to you personally, Al, but if you want to play cop, do it
elsewhere.
Steve
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
The LORD has made me able.
> That is not the way to express love.
Perhaps you should try praying for GOD to bless someone whom you love
and let us know whether you still believe that this would not be
something down out of love for another.
> If you wish to express love, you will turn this newsgroup over to people
> (including yourself) who assist other people on cardiological issues.
In truth, I do not control this unmoderated usenet newsgroup.
> By
> persisting in your proselytizing, you are displaying hate towards those
> people not love.
Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
> >> More importantly, your choice wastes time.
> >
> > Praying to GOD has never been a waste of time in my experience. It
> > saddens me that this apparently has not been your experience.
>
> You were given a gift by your god.
Neither the past tense nor the singular form of gift are applicable
here.
> You waste time that could be used to
> exercise the gift.
The time itself is a gift from GOD.
Greater wisdom resides in those who recognize the gifts from GOD.
> >> Your god gave you the ability to obtain the knowledge to help people on
> >> this
> >> earth.
> >
> > ... so that people will see the good works and learning their Source
> > seek HIM out to thank and praise HIM. Laus Deo !
>
> You are not helping people on this newsgroup in the way that they need help,
> or in the way that they desire help. You aren't doing your god's work here.
It remains clear you don't know GOD. If you did, you would know that
the soul is more important than the body. If the soul dies, the heart
withers to nothing.
GOD has the power to slay souls. HIS Son chose to suffer terribly and
die horribly on the cross to save our souls from the wages of our
deadly sins.
> >> That you choose to waste it praying for people who do not need, or
> >> simply do not want, your prayers cannot sit well with your god, or with
> >> any
> >> logical god.
> >
> > If you knew our GOD well enough to speak for HIM, you would not hold
> > the opinion that prayer for anybody is a waste of time.
>
> You presume that I do not pray, and that my own prayers are insufficient to
> benefit me. This, again, is the sin of huburus.
You mean hubris. Most assuredly, it remains my choice to die to self
everyday. Without self there is no hubris.
> > Indeed, though I know HIM well enough to speak for HIM, it remains my
> > choice to refrain from this.
>
> That, my dear Andrew, is blasphemy.
The truth is not blashemy.
> You have no brief from your god to speak for your god.
If the Holy Spirit were to guide me to either speak or write for GOD,
most assuredly without doubt, I would be quite comfortable doing so.
LORD GOD Almighty ... THY will be done.
> It is becoming clearer and clearer that you are possessed by the devil.
Let there be no doubt...
... all sins will be forgiven through faith in LORD Jesus Christ
**except** blaspheming the Holy Spirit.
In the name of LORD Jesus Christ, I command you to leave, satan, and
release dear neighbor Steve from your clutches or may GOD send HIS holy
fire down from heaven now to destroy you !
Amen ! ! !
Laus Deo ! ! !
Marana tha ! ! !
Ben Cramer
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> In news:1155020011....@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com,
> Flowerchild8245 <flowerc...@netzero.com> typed:
> >>>> veralein ::: wrote:
> >> In news:1154927244....@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com,
> >> Flowerchild8245 <flowerc...@netzero.com> typed:
> >>>>>> QUESTION #3:
> >>>>>> If, in the New Heaven and New Earth, there will
> >>>>>> be no more death, why does the Bible say there
> >>>>>> WILL still be physical death in the New Heaven
> >>>>>> and New Earth (Isaiah 65:20, 66:24)?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Maybe it is talking about those resurrected and those that remain.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I wanted to clear something up
> >>
> >> That is good - when are you going to start, Jerry?
> >>
> >> Have you cleared up already why the Judgement only came over the
> >> Jews in 70 A.D. (according to your thinking)?
> >>
> >> And have you cleared up the difference you have with "Pastor" Dave
> >> and the Lord's Prayer?
> >>
> >> Do you still pray it?
>
> [snip]
>
> Thy Kingdom come.
>
> Amen?
Amen ! !
Laus Deo ! !
Marana tha ! ! !
May GOD continue to heal the wounds that your heart has sustained, dear
sister Vera.
Chris
Stress is really bad for the heart.
Chris
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
This is why those with heart disease truly need our LORD's peace, which
passes all worldly understanding.
May our LORD's peace remain with you, dear brother Chris.
Mark K. Bilbo
<1154949888.7...@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> wrote:
> Indeed, though I know HIM well enough to speak for HIM
You might as well post:
"I'm delusional and in need of serious mental health treatment."
Or would that be redundant?
--
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Al
> "Al" <a...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:eb7ab...@enews3.newsguy.com...
>> Steve Marcus wrote:
>> that you've taken a situation in
>>> which people looking for medical information not only have to wad through
>>> Chung's crap, but have to tolerate yours (and worse, Al's) too.
>> Indeed you do NOT. Use your killfile. You KNOW I'm not a doctor, so do
>> me first, and you won't miss any medical information.
>
> Who the fuck are you to direct me what to do with a killfile, or anything?
>
> Who the fuck are you to decide that you can undertake some sort of crusade
> against a given poster?
Since you so freely use the word, fuck off Howdy Doody.
Al
>
> Who the fuck are you to direct me what to do with a killfile, or anything?
>
> Who the fuck are you to decide that you can undertake some sort of crusade
> against a given poster? Below you speak of "playing cop." Please explain
> how what you are doing is anything other than "playing cop."
>
I guess Howdy Doody lied. Seems to me he said this: " I shall not
continue to direct posts
of this sort to you or to Al, because neither of you have a snowball's
chance in hell of seeing the light, to wit, that you've taken a
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Many thanks, much praise and all the glory to GOD for HIS using you to
drive people away from satan's traps.
May GOD keep using you to heal the hearts of others, dear neighbor Al.
Uncle Vic
(nosp...@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
>>
>> Since you so freely use the word, fuck off Howdy Doody.
>
> Many thanks, much praise and all the glory to GOD for HIS using you to
> drive people away from satan's traps.
>
And many thanks to you, Earthquack, for driving people away from the
shackles of Christianity.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Member: Intensional misspellingg club.
Robert Weldon
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nosp...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1155064327.1...@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
You are a loon, seek competent mental health help.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Name-calling simply shows that you are lost.
May GOD heal your heart, dear neighbor Robert.
I KILLED YOUR GOD---IT WAS EASY!
>
> Many thanks, much praise and all the glory to GOD for HIS using you to
> drive people away from satan's traps.
>
> May GOD keep using you to heal the hearts of others, dear neighbor Al.
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Andrew B. Chung
> Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
>
hey chung-your sick in your mind-and you do not even realize that one simple
fact.here-chew on this-
SUCK THE COCK OF CHRIST!
HE HE-SUCKER!
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> >
> > Many thanks, much praise and all the glory to GOD for HIS using you to
> > drive people away from satan's traps.
> >
> > May GOD keep using you to heal the hearts of others, dear neighbor Al.
> >
> > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
> >
> > Andrew B. Chung
> > Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
> >
>
Ditto for you too.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> On 8 Aug 2006 04:56:42 -0700, "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
> <kan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Plant of God wrote:
> >> You are a fool and don't even know what you are talking about. I'm
> >> going to push this till your folly is revealed. I was going to let you
> >>
> >> off, but you pushed the issue.
> >>
> >> -Isaiah 53 is about the Messiah. Who does your jewish friends say the
> >> passage is about?
> >
> >So that everyone here knows the passage...
> >
> >Isaiah 53:1-12 "Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm
> >of the LORD revealed? For he shall grow up before him as a tender
> >plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor
> >comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we
> >should desire him. He is despised and rejected of men; a man of
> >sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces
> >from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. Surely he hath
> >borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him
> >stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our
> >transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of
> >our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. All we
> >like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way;
> >and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. He was
> >oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is
> >brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers
> >is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth. He was taken from prison and from
> >judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out
> >of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he
> >stricken. And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in
> >his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in
> >his mouth. Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to
> >grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see
> >his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall
> >prosper in his hand. He shall see of the travail of his soul, and
> >shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify
> >many; for he shall bear their iniquities. Therefore will I divide him a
> >portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong;
> >because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered
> >with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made
> >intercession for the transgressors."
> >
> >To whom does this passage refer Watch Dog? Ask your friends you spoke
> >of. I await your reply.
>
> Just replace the word "LORD" with the word "Devil", then everything
> will be clear.
The devil is not GOD.
Otoh, the LORD is GOD.
Truth is simple.
Truth is absolute.
Truth is invincible.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ.
May GOD heal your heart making it more discerning, dear neighbor Eric.
Kurt Gavin
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nosp...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> The devil is not GOD.
Andrew, on the basis of your ravings, I think Satan's demons have certainly
taken over your mind.