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lov...@thetruth.com

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Nov 11, 2006, 3:23:27 AM11/11/06
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dkw1...@yahoo.com wrote:
> I am amazed at the number of overweight people. There are so many that
> overweight is the majority and people have lost their perspective. They
> don't even see themselves as overweight. This perspective seems to be
> based on your own weight, and you view other people based on this.
>
> As I was losing weight, I couldn't help but look around me in any
> meeting place like a restaurant and check out who was overweight and
> who wasn't. The thing is, as I lost weight, it seemed to me there were
> more and more overweight people. My perspective changed. I used to
> think almost all Asians were underweight. Now I see them as normal
> weight mostly and it's US that are just fat. dkw

Here's an exception:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister

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Nov 11, 2006, 3:32:45 AM11/11/06
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Earthquack wrote:

> dkw1...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > I am amazed at the number of overweight people. There are so many that
> > overweight is the majority and people have lost their perspective. They
> > don't even see themselves as overweight. This perspective seems to be
> > based on your own weight, and you view other people based on this.
> >
> > As I was losing weight, I couldn't help but look around me in any
> > meeting place like a restaurant and check out who was overweight and
> > who wasn't. The thing is, as I lost weight, it seemed to me there were
> > more and more overweight people. My perspective changed. I used to
> > think almost all Asians were underweight. Now I see them as normal
> > weight mostly and it's US that are just fat. dkw
>
> Here's an exception:
>
> http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought
>

Non-sequiturs are projected ideas of reference.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 11, 2006, 3:39:17 AM11/11/06
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Vanquished atheist Kutchie, squeaked:

It seems you are lacking in reading comprehension.

Such is one of the many embarrassing deficits of folks in your
predicament:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you choose to
unwisely curse HIM) dear neighbor Kutchie whom I love unconditionally.

Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister

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Nov 11, 2006, 4:13:13 AM11/11/06
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> Vanquished atheist Kutchie, squeaked:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > dkw1...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > I am amazed at the number of overweight people. There are so many that
> > > > overweight is the majority and people have lost their perspective. They
> > > > don't even see themselves as overweight. This perspective seems to be
> > > > based on your own weight, and you view other people based on this.
> > > >
> > > > As I was losing weight, I couldn't help but look around me in any
> > > > meeting place like a restaurant and check out who was overweight and
> > > > who wasn't. The thing is, as I lost weight, it seemed to me there were
> > > > more and more overweight people. My perspective changed. I used to
> > > > think almost all Asians were underweight. Now I see them as normal
> > > > weight mostly and it's US that are just fat. dkw
> > >
> > > Here's an exception:
> > >
> > > http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought
> >
> > Non-sequiturs are projected ideas of reference.
>
> It seems you are lacking in reading comprehension.
>

No, you are lacking in sanity as well as manners. It is clear from your
behaviour in Usenet why you lost your job in Ocala, and haven't had a
proper one since.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 11, 2006, 4:25:06 AM11/11/06
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Vanquished atheist Kutchie whined:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Vanquished atheist Kutchie, squeaked:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > dkw1...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > > I am amazed at the number of overweight people. There are so many that
> > > > > overweight is the majority and people have lost their perspective. They
> > > > > don't even see themselves as overweight. This perspective seems to be
> > > > > based on your own weight, and you view other people based on this.
> > > > >
> > > > > As I was losing weight, I couldn't help but look around me in any
> > > > > meeting place like a restaurant and check out who was overweight and
> > > > > who wasn't. The thing is, as I lost weight, it seemed to me there were
> > > > > more and more overweight people. My perspective changed. I used to
> > > > > think almost all Asians were underweight. Now I see them as normal
> > > > > weight mostly and it's US that are just fat. dkw
> > > >
> > > > Here's an exception:
> > > >
> > > > http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought
> > >
> > > Non-sequiturs are projected ideas of reference.
> >
> > It seems you are lacking in reading comprehension.
>
> No, you are lacking in sanity as well as manners.

It seems you are suffering from the deluded beliefs that you are now
also a psychiatrist along with being an ordained pastor.

Would suggest you inform your doctor(s) about these delusions.

If you are taking psychotropic drugs, you will likely need to have them
either adjusted or changed.

May GOD continue to keep you heart beating (unless you unwisely choose
to curse HIM) dear neighbor Kutchie whom I love unconditionally.

Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister

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Nov 11, 2006, 6:21:24 AM11/11/06
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As it happens, my psychometrics show a greatly above average grip on
reality (existential anxiety rating is a flat zero). It is a fact that
I am an ordained minister, just as it is a fact that you are as batty
as a baseball bat with a million bats hanging off it. It doesn't take
any qualifications in psychiatry to deduce that, just the perspective
of any normal, well adjusted adult.

You would do well to stop sneering at normal, intelligent people and
toddle off to one of your Failures Anonymous - sorry Born-again
Christian house meetings - assuming that even they aren't thoroughly
sick of your egotistical, arrogant posturings.

Kadaitcha Man

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Nov 11, 2006, 6:24:21 AM11/11/06
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Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister <use...@heathens.org.uk>, the
ghoulish pastor, wanted to talkee-talkee about:

> You would do well to stop sneering at normal, intelligent people

Then he is well within his rights to sneer at you, you sneering, subnormal,
unintelligent excuse for a person.

--
alt.usenet.kooks - Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker:
September 2005 and April 2006

"K-Man's particular genius, however, lies not merely in his humour,
but his ability to make posters who had previously seemed reasonably
well-balanced turn into foaming, frothing, death threat-uttering
maniacs" - Snarky, Demon Lord of Confusion

Thou scurvy fellow. A foul and pestilent congregation of vapours. What a
piece of work is man!

Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister

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Nov 11, 2006, 6:26:42 AM11/11/06
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Kadaitcha Man wrote:

Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries.

Kadaitcha Man

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Nov 11, 2006, 6:32:34 AM11/11/06
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Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister <use...@heathens.org.uk>, the
operator of the machine that makes things, trickled:

That's about the best insult you googletards are good for.

--
alt.usenet.kooks - Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker:
September 2005 and April 2006

"K-Man's particular genius, however, lies not merely in his humour,
but his ability to make posters who had previously seemed reasonably
well-balanced turn into foaming, frothing, death threat-uttering
maniacs" - Snarky, Demon Lord of Confusion

Thou beef-witted fantastical knave. Thou ineffectual dull thing.

Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister

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Nov 11, 2006, 6:39:17 AM11/11/06
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Kadaitcha Man wrote:

That's about the effort you're worth.

Kadaitcha Man

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Nov 11, 2006, 6:44:28 AM11/11/06
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Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister <use...@heathens.org.uk>, the
drinker of alcoholic beverages, harangued:

Which is far more than can be said of you. I'll take the compliment.

--
alt.usenet.kooks - Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker:
September 2005 and April 2006

"K-Man's particular genius, however, lies not merely in his humour,
but his ability to make posters who had previously seemed reasonably
well-balanced turn into foaming, frothing, death threat-uttering
maniacs" - Snarky, Demon Lord of Confusion

Thou hoofed mammal. Thou lumpish, biting bug-riddled one relish'd of a
base descent.

Michael Gray

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Nov 11, 2006, 6:52:07 AM11/11/06
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On 11 Nov 2006 00:23:27 -0800, lov...@thetruth.com wrote:
- Refer: <1163233407....@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>

>dkw1...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> I am amazed at the number of overweight people. There are so many that
>> overweight is the majority and people have lost their perspective. They
>> don't even see themselves as overweight. This perspective seems to be
>> based on your own weight, and you view other people based on this.
>>
>> As I was losing weight, I couldn't help but look around me in any
>> meeting place like a restaurant and check out who was overweight and
>> who wasn't. The thing is, as I lost weight, it seemed to me there were
>> more and more overweight people. My perspective changed. I used to
>> think almost all Asians were underweight. Now I see them as normal
>> weight mostly and it's US that are just fat. dkw
>
>Here's an exception:
>
>http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought
>
>Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
>Andrew <><

Changed your fucking nym again, Earthquack?
How's the kool-aid mixing going in your Chungstown garden-centre
fountain-flogging shop?
Killed any patients lately?

--

Pam Shat

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Nov 11, 2006, 7:27:47 AM11/11/06
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On 11 Nov 2006 03:26:42 -0800, "Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist
minister" <use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote:

Your flesh smells of rancid pig fat. Your mother, grandmother,
greatgrandmother, sister, brother and cousin have all had sex with
you. Indeed, they are all the same person. Urine is the beverage of
choice in your household. You eat your own excrement for dessert. You
are extremely rude to old ladies, and you hate classical music.

May you suffer great disconcertedness throughout your days.

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 11, 2006, 8:20:39 AM11/11/06
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Michael Gray wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >dkw1...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> I am amazed at the number of overweight people. There are so many that
> >> overweight is the majority and people have lost their perspective. They
> >> don't even see themselves as overweight. This perspective seems to be
> >> based on your own weight, and you view other people based on this.
> >>
> >> As I was losing weight, I couldn't help but look around me in any
> >> meeting place like a restaurant and check out who was overweight and
> >> who wasn't. The thing is, as I lost weight, it seemed to me there were
> >> more and more overweight people. My perspective changed. I used to
> >> think almost all Asians were underweight. Now I see them as normal
> >> weight mostly and it's US that are just fat. dkw
> >
> >Here's an exception:
> >
> >http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought
> >
> >Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
> >
> >Andrew <><
>
> Changed your fucking nym again

No.

> , Earthquack?

Name-calling simply shows that you are lost:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp

> How's the kool-aid mixing going in your Chungstown garden-centre
> fountain-flogging shop?

It seems that you are suffering from delusions of paranoia.

Would suggest you inform your doctor(s) about your symptoms.

If you are currently taking psychotropic drugs, you may need to either
have them adjusted or changed.

> Killed any patients lately?

Cardiologists don't kill, they resuscitate.

If you are currently taking psychotropic drugs, you likely will need
the increased... post haste.

This victory belongs to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind,
and strength:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp

Fear GOD and dread nought:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought

Your consolation prize is healing and eternal life if you choose to
wisely surrender to HIM:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?

May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you choose unwisely
to curse HIM) dear neighbor Mike whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><


--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

> --

dkw1...@yahoo.com

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Nov 11, 2006, 1:26:27 PM11/11/06
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Yes, the good doctor sees God in everything, including diet
discussions. To him, God controls everything and bringing up God in any
discussion is natural for him. It does peg him as a religious fanatic.
Sort of reminds me of Telly on Sesame Street who saw triangles
everywhere. dkw

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 11, 2006, 2:24:24 PM11/11/06
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Neighbor DKW wrote:
> Vanquished atheist Kutchie babbled:

> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > Neighbor DKW wrote:
> > > > I am amazed at the number of overweight people. There are so many that
> > > > overweight is the majority and people have lost their perspective. They
> > > > don't even see themselves as overweight. This perspective seems to be
> > > > based on your own weight, and you view other people based on this.
> > > >
> > > > As I was losing weight, I couldn't help but look around me in any
> > > > meeting place like a restaurant and check out who was overweight and
> > > > who wasn't. The thing is, as I lost weight, it seemed to me there were
> > > > more and more overweight people. My perspective changed. I used to
> > > > think almost all Asians were underweight. Now I see them as normal
> > > > weight mostly and it's US that are just fat. dkw
> > >
> > > Here's an exception:
> > >
> > > http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought
>
> Yes, the good doctor sees God in everything, including diet
> discussions.

It remains my choice to continue my ever closer walk with LORD Jesus
Christ, Whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp

> To him, God controls everything and bringing up God in any


> discussion is natural for him.

This is understood and know to all who are members of the brethren of
LORD Jesus Christ.

> It does peg him as a religious fanatic.

There are many who have regarded HIS brethren as fanatical.

Stephen in Acts was stoned to death for this.

> Sort of reminds me of Telly on Sesame Street who saw triangles
> everywhere.

Your delusion that a fictional character on Sesame Street is real is a
concern.

Would suggest you inform your doctor(s) about your symptoms.

If you are taking psychotropic medications, you may need to have them
either adjusted or changed.

This victory belongs to GOD Whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind,
and strength:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/love.asp

Your consolation prize is eternal life and salvation from the brutally
sadistic plans that satan has for you if you choose to surrender to
LORD Jesus Christ:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?

May GOD in HIS infinite mercy and grace keep your heart beating (unless
you unwisely choose to curse HIM) to give you precious extra time to
understand and act on this, dear neighbor DKW whom I love
unconditionally.

Art Deco

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Nov 11, 2006, 5:46:08 PM11/11/06
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Classic erroneous presupposition.

>
>
> > It does peg him as a religious fanatic.
>
> There are many who have regarded HIS brethren as fanatical.

How ironic.

>
>
> Stephen in Acts was stoned to death for this.

Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim, laced with invective, as
expected from someone who lacks a logical argument.

>
>
> > Sort of reminds me of Telly on Sesame Street who saw triangles
> > everywhere.
>
> Your delusion that a fictional character on Sesame Street is real is a
> concern.

Classic invective, as expected from someone who lacks a logical
argument.

>
>
> Would suggest you inform your doctor(s) about your symptoms.

Irrelevant.

>
>
> If you are taking psychotropic medications, you may need to have them
> either adjusted or changed.

Liar.

>
>
> This victory belongs to GOD Whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind,
> and strength:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/love.asp
>
> Your consolation prize is eternal life and salvation from the brutally
> sadistic plans that satan has for you if you choose to surrender to
> LORD Jesus Christ:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?

Classic failure to comprehend the point.

>
>
> May GOD in HIS infinite mercy and grace keep your heart beating (unless
> you unwisely choose to curse HIM) to give you precious extra time to
> understand and act on this, dear neighbor DKW whom I love
> unconditionally.

Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim, laced with invective, as
expected from someone who lacks a logical argument.


Classic erroneous presupposition.

[malformed sig flushed]

--
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as designated by Brad Guth

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attribution problems?"
-- Dr. David Tholen

Henry Mankinna

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Nov 11, 2006, 7:24:07 PM11/11/06
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in message

Chung, what are you doing on a kO0k newsgroup?

news:1163273064.1...@h54g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 11, 2006, 7:31:34 PM11/11/06
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Henry Mankinna wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> Chung, what are you doing on a kO0k newsgroup?

Walking ever more closely with LORD Jesus Christ:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirt/fear.asp

Fear GOD and dread nothing that is of this world:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNaught

May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you unwisely choose
to curse HIM) dear neighbor Henry whom I love unconditionally.

Art Deco

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Nov 11, 2006, 8:13:14 PM11/11/06
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:

>Henry Mankinna wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> Chung, what are you doing on a kO0k newsgroup?
>
> Walking ever more closely with LORD Jesus Christ:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirt/fear.asp
>
> Fear GOD and dread nothing that is of this world:
>
> http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNaught

Classic inappropriate analogy.

>
> May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you unwisely choose
> to curse HIM) dear neighbor Henry whom I love unconditionally.

You're erroneously presupposing that you are correct.

mikem...@yahoo.com

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Dec 11, 2006, 4:12:10 PM12/11/06
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Although your post with this most loving and kind subject line was not
directed at me I wish to take up your challenge. You see, you have
tempted me to commit the unforgivable sin (Matthew 12:31-32).

So here it is: Jehovah is a fairy tale. The Holy Spirit is a figment
of your imagination. They are nothing more than imaginary friends for
adults who are stunted in their cognitive faculties. I curse them.


So am I dead yet? No. So your supposition must be wrong!

mikem...@yahoo.com

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Dec 11, 2006, 4:32:44 PM12/11/06
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Replying to my own post

-- Just so you know that I'm still alive and that what ever you think
your imaginary friend told you is wrong. As wrong as wrong can be.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 12, 2006, 7:39:10 AM12/12/06
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mikem...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Vanquished atheist Kutchie, squeaked:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > dkw1...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > > I am amazed at the number of overweight people. There are so many that
> > > > > overweight is the majority and people have lost their perspective. They
> > > > > don't even see themselves as overweight. This perspective seems to be
> > > > > based on your own weight, and you view other people based on this.
> > > > >
> > > > > As I was losing weight, I couldn't help but look around me in any
> > > > > meeting place like a restaurant and check out who was overweight and
> > > > > who wasn't. The thing is, as I lost weight, it seemed to me there were
> > > > > more and more overweight people. My perspective changed. I used to
> > > > > think almost all Asians were underweight. Now I see them as normal
> > > > > weight mostly and it's US that are just fat. dkw
> > > >
> > > > Here's an exception:
> > > >
> > > > http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought
> > >
> > > Non-sequiturs are projected ideas of reference.
> >
> > It seems you are lacking in reading comprehension.
> >
> > Such is one of the many embarrassing deficits of folks in your
> > predicament:
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> >
> > May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you choose to
> > unwisely curse HIM) dear neighbor Kutchie whom I love unconditionally.
>
> Although your post with this most loving and kind subject line was not
> directed at me I wish to take up your challenge. You see, you have
> tempted me to commit the unforgivable sin (Matthew 12:31-32).
>
> So here it is: Jehovah is a fairy tale. The Holy Spirit is a figment
> of your imagination. They are nothing more than imaginary friends for
> adults who are stunted in their cognitive faculties. I curse them.
>
> So am I dead yet? No. So your supposition must be wrong!

You remind me of the jumper standing on a bridge overlooking a
precipice asking bystanders whether he is dead yet after imagining that
he had jumped.

Would suggest you inform your doctor(s) about your suicidal ideations.

If you are currently taking psychotropic medications, you likely will
need them either adjusted or even changed.

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor
Mike whom I love unconditionally.

mikem...@yahoo.com

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Dec 12, 2006, 8:31:34 AM12/12/06
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:


"Dr." Chung

Are you even trained in psychiatry? I seriously doubt it! Do you even
have a grasp of reality? Can you recognize sarcasm? Logic?

First of all, your assertion that if one were to curse "God" on
Usenet that they would die before the post appears is falsified by my
post. So you have failed to recognize logic. You failed to recognize
sarcasm in my rebuke that you are tempting me to sin. But this is
serious matter. You have proven yourself to be completely unconcerned
about your "neighbor" who might be psychotic. With your approach
and your threats that your imaginary friend will strike them down if
they curse him. The pathetic ideation of your apparently sick mind
might just lead someone to suicide. If that has or does happen, the
guilt is yours. You have proven that you lack basic human compassion
exhibited by your frustration that I wasn't struck down by your
imaginary friend. You are nothing but a bully by proxy and are
exhibiting behavior unbecoming of a physician.

You appear to be truly and deeply deluded. You were wrong about your
imaginary god striking me dead. You are wrong in assuming me to be
mentally ill. I shudder for your patients.

Blash

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Dec 12, 2006, 9:55:23 AM12/12/06
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mikem...@yahoo.com wrote on 12/12/06 8:31 AM:

> "Dr." Chung
>
> Are you even trained in psychiatry? I seriously doubt it! Do you even
> have a grasp of reality? Can you recognize sarcasm? Logic?
>
> First of all, your assertion that if one were to curse "God" on
> Usenet that they would die before the post appears is falsified by my
> post. So you have failed to recognize logic. You failed to recognize
> sarcasm in my rebuke that you are tempting me to sin. But this is
> serious matter. You have proven yourself to be completely unconcerned
> about your "neighbor" who might be psychotic. With your approach
> and your threats that your imaginary friend will strike them down if
> they curse him. The pathetic ideation of your apparently sick mind
> might just lead someone to suicide. If that has or does happen, the
> guilt is yours. You have proven that you lack basic human compassion
> exhibited by your frustration that I wasn't struck down by your
> imaginary friend. You are nothing but a bully by proxy and are
> exhibiting behavior unbecoming of a physician.
>
> You appear to be truly and deeply deluded. You were wrong about your
> imaginary god striking me dead. You are wrong in assuming me to be
> mentally ill. I shudder for your patients.

Interesting comment.......However, they will have the same effect as
talking to the wall.......

mikem...@yahoo.com

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Dec 12, 2006, 1:26:19 PM12/12/06
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Perhaps. Through experience I've learned that humoring the delusional
does far more hram than good.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dec 13, 2006, 5:20:46 AM12/13/06
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> "Dr." Chung
>
> Are you even trained in psychiatry?

Yes.

> I seriously doubt it!

Then you are now seriously embarrassed.

> Do you even have a grasp of reality?

GOD, Creator of heaven and earth, is the author of all reality.

LORD Jesus Christ is GOD.

Without the LORD, there is no reality (Ecclesiastes).

> Can you recognize sarcasm?

Yes. It is a tool of satan and forks the tongue.

> Logic?

Yes. It is to the undiscerning like a walking cane is to the blind.

> First of all, your assertion that if one were to curse "God" on
> Usenet that they would die before the post appears is falsified by my
> post.

In the Holy Spirit, I know that those here on usenet who have attempted
to curse GOD, Creator of heaven and earth, have died before their
attempt could be actuated. This is not an assertion but an emphatic
statement meant to discourage you from ever unwisely making such an
attempt. Atheist psychologist Sigmund Freud would be an example of
someone who cursed GOD and ended up dying an excruciating painful death
filled with overwhelming anxiety and teeth gnashing panic.

> So you have failed to recognize logic.

You have not demonstrated the use of logic.

> You failed to recognize
> sarcasm in my rebuke that you are tempting me to sin.

Your use of sarcasm invalidates any authority to rebuke.

> But this is
> serious matter.

It is.

> You have proven yourself to be completely unconcerned
> about your "neighbor" who might be psychotic.

If that were true, would not have advised you to inform your doctor(s)
about your suicidal ideations.

> With your approach


> and your threats that your imaginary friend will strike them down if
> they curse him.

GOD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not the threaten.

You remind me of the fool who sees the caution signs around an open
manhole but falls into it anyway to prove that the cautions signs have
not taken away his free will.

> The pathetic ideation of your apparently sick mind
> might just lead someone to suicide.

You are projecting.

Again, would suggest you inform your doctor(s) about your deteriorating
condition.

> If that has or does happen, the
> guilt is yours.

It has happened and there is as much guilt here as for the person who
had set caution signs around the open manhole analogy above.

> You have proven that you lack basic human compassion
> exhibited by your frustration that I wasn't struck down by your
> imaginary friend.

You are closer to being imaginary than GOD, Who is the creator of all
reality.

> You are nothing but a bully by proxy and are
> exhibiting behavior unbecoming of a physician.

Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).

> You appear to be truly and deeply deluded.

Not to those with discerning hearts:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/discern.asp

> You were wrong about your
> imaginary god striking me dead.

When you stop posting, we will surmise that you are dead.

> You are wrong in assuming me to be
> mentally ill.

Your suicidal ideations are as archived permanently in Google.

Whether you are mentally ill is to be determined by your doctor(s).

Again, I would suggest you inform your doctor(s) about your suidical
ideations.

Again, if you are currently taking psychotropic medications, it is
likely they will need to be either changed or adjusted.

> I shudder for your patients.

Without the LORD, there can be only fear, dread, and panic.

May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you unwisely choose
to curse HIM as did atheist psychologist Sigmund Freud who died in
excruciating pain, overwhelming anxiety and teeth gnashing panic) dear

mikem...@yahoo.com

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> mikem...@yahoo.com wrote:

snipped some lucid comments having nothing to do with the subject line,
keeping the delusions of Andrew.


> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > mikem...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > Although your post with this most loving and kind subject line was not
> > > > directed at me I wish to take up your challenge. You see, you have
> > > > tempted me to commit the unforgivable sin (Matthew 12:31-32).
> > > >
> > > > So here it is: Jehovah is a fairy tale. The Holy Spirit is a figment
> > > > of your imagination. They are nothing more than imaginary friends for
> > > > adults who are stunted in their cognitive faculties. I curse them.
> > > >
> > > > So am I dead yet? No. So your supposition must be wrong!
> > >
> > > You remind me of the jumper standing on a bridge overlooking a
> > > precipice asking bystanders whether he is dead yet after imagining that
> > > he had jumped.
> > >
> > > Would suggest you inform your doctor(s) about your suicidal ideations.
> > >
> > > If you are currently taking psychotropic medications, you likely will
> > > need them either adjusted or even changed.
> > >
> > > May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
> > > diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our
> > > neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor
> > > Mike whom I love unconditionally.>
> >
> > "Dr." Chung
> >
> > Are you even trained in psychiatry?
>
> Yes.
>
> > I seriously doubt it!

The fact is that you are certified in internal medicine with a
subspeciality in cardioilogy. You med school training seems to be all
you have in the field of psychiatry. You are qualifed maybe to make a
referral but that's about it.

>
> Then you are now seriously embarrassed.

Hardly.

>
> > Do you even have a grasp of reality?
>
> GOD, Creator of heaven and earth, is the author of all reality.
>
> LORD Jesus Christ is GOD.
>
> Without the LORD, there is no reality (Ecclesiastes).

Before your imaginary friend was even thought of, reality was.

>
> > Can you recognize sarcasm?
>
> Yes. It is a tool of satan and forks the tongue.
>
> > Logic?
>
> Yes. It is to the undiscerning like a walking cane is to the blind.
>
> > First of all, your assertion that if one were to curse "God" on
> > Usenet that they would die before the post appears is falsified by my
> > post.
>
> In the Holy Spirit, I know that those here on usenet who have attempted
> to curse GOD, Creator of heaven and earth, have died before their
> attempt could be actuated. This is not an assertion but an emphatic
> statement meant to discourage you from ever unwisely making such an
> attempt. Atheist psychologist Sigmund Freud would be an example of
> someone who cursed GOD and ended up dying an excruciating painful death
> filled with overwhelming anxiety and teeth gnashing panic.

Freud died before usnet was invented. How about a real independantly
verifiable example. Let's deal in reality not fairy tales and legends.


>
> > So you have failed to recognize logic.
>
> You have not demonstrated the use of logic.
>
> > You failed to recognize
> > sarcasm in my rebuke that you are tempting me to sin.
>
> Your use of sarcasm invalidates any authority to rebuke.

Not at all. Your friend Jesus used it, at least according to the
legends.

>
> > But this is
> > serious matter.
>
> It is.
>
> > You have proven yourself to be completely unconcerned
> > about your "neighbor" who might be psychotic.
>
> If that were true, would not have advised you to inform your doctor(s)
> about your suicidal ideations.
>

I have no suicidal thoughts. You seem to have homicidal fantasies.
Doesn't that disturb you?

> > With your approach
> > and your threats that your imaginary friend will strike them down if
> > they curse him.
>
> GOD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not the threaten.

Call it what you want, it's delusional. And it's dangerous if directed
to someone equally delusional.


>
> You remind me of the fool who sees the caution signs around an open
> manhole but falls into it anyway to prove that the cautions signs have
> not taken away his free will.

You remind me of an idiot that wrans someone that the Lorax will kill
them while igonoring the caution light. I have no fear of imaginined
threats but take caution at the real dangers.

>
> > The pathetic ideation of your apparently sick mind
> > might just lead someone to suicide.
>
> You are projecting.

Hardly. You are projecting your projection.


>
> Again, would suggest you inform your doctor(s) about your deteriorating
> condition.

I enjoy great health. My doctor agrees.


>
> > If that has or does happen, the
> > guilt is yours.
>
> It has happened and there is as much guilt here as for the person who
> had set caution signs around the open manhole analogy above.

Not if you drive some poor deluded person to belive they have commited
the unforgivable sin so that they kill themselves in their unerasonable
dispair. That's very likely to happen and you know it!

>
> > You have proven that you lack basic human compassion
> > exhibited by your frustration that I wasn't struck down by your
> > imaginary friend.
>
> You are closer to being imaginary than GOD, Who is the creator of all
> reality.
>
> > You are nothing but a bully by proxy and are
> > exhibiting behavior unbecoming of a physician.
>
> Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).

I think you collegaues would disagree.

>
> > You appear to be truly and deeply deluded.
>
> Not to those with discerning hearts:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/discern.asp

A shared delusion is still a delusion.


>
> > You were wrong about your
> > imaginary god striking me dead.
>
> When you stop posting, we will surmise that you are dead.

HA HA. You would like that wouldn't you. That's hardly logical and
would offer no proof of your assertion at all now would it.

I'll do as I please, thankyou.

You should take up my 24 hour challenge that you'll see later in my
post. I post again on December 14th or later proving you wrong.

>
> > You are wrong in assuming me to be
> > mentally ill.
>
> Your suicidal ideations are as archived permanently in Google.
>
> Whether you are mentally ill is to be determined by your doctor(s).
>
> Again, I would suggest you inform your doctor(s) about your suidical
> ideations.
>
> Again, if you are currently taking psychotropic medications, it is
> likely they will need to be either changed or adjusted.

No. I'm not taking anything of the sort. I have no need of it.
Falsely believing all who disagree with you are insane is a classic
symptom of paranoid delusion is it not? You really should stop
dispensing medical advice you are not qualified to give. If you gave
this advice to someone who needed such medication and they stopped
because of you there would be consequences, wouldn't there?


>
> > I shudder for your patients.
>
> Without the LORD, there can be only fear, dread, and panic.

No. I'm with out the Lord and totally with out dread and panic. I've
just enough fear to insure that I avoid unnessary risks.


>
> May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you unwisely choose
> to curse HIM as did atheist psychologist Sigmund Freud who died in
> excruciating pain, overwhelming anxiety and teeth gnashing panic) dear
> neighbor Mike whom I love unconditionally.

I've already cursed you imaginary friend. Still here. Heart still
beating perfectly.


>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung
> Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
>
> As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
> unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
> (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

Name and document, with independent corroboration, one case where
someone who was in reasonably good heath was composing a usenet post
cursing your imaginary friend and died before it was posted. Show me
the proof or shut up.

But even If you can I have demonstrated that your sweeping statement,
since your clear assertion was that anyone who did that would die
before the post appeared is falsified by my actions. If you can
document even one example it is clearly a coincidence. After all if
your imaginary friend really loves you and is telling you the truth, he
will kill me within 24 hours. Pray for my death by December 14, you
know you want to.


Before I go I must tell you that you have shown yourself to be a vile
dreadful example of Christianity and the medical profession. You come
across as arrogant, prideful, irrational, self absorbed, narcissistic
if not down right delusional.


Your defense of such a vile person as Fred Phelps speaks volumes of a
deep problem in you. Either you are as hate filled as he is or you are
completely delusional to hold up a hateful cultist like him as a
paragon. I can only conclude that you agree with him in his hatred of
American Soldiers, Homosexuals and physicians who perform legal
abortions and his belief that he and his sorry little band of followers
numbering only about 100 are the only true Christians on earth. Thst's
not unconditional love. That's pure hate.


Your threats of death by proxy at the hands of your invisible friend do
not impress me at all except to paint a picture of a pathetic excuse
for a human being who gets his jollies.

Your displeasure at my continued good health is yet another example of
your idea of "unconditional love". Knowing that this will upset
you I have to tell you this anyway. As an atheist, I enjoy excellent
health and vitality, surpassing that of the Christians around me. I
have excellent cardiovascular health and do not suffer from all of the
maladies that the Christians around me have including heart disease,
stroke, drug addiction, alcoholism, cancer, mental disorders like
depression, anxiety, personality disorders, etc. I have such robust
health that many are surprised at my age and I can execute feats of
strength that the Christians around me that are 15 to 20 years younger
cannot match. Better than 99 percent of the sick and dying around me
are Christians. I say that not to boast to to demonstrate that your
ideas about "cursing God" are nonsensical.

As for wit and sarcasm being a "tool of Satan" (an other imaginary
god) you best check out our Bible. The Holy Spirit inspired it after
all, correct? Your imaginary friend used wit and sarcasm endlessly in
his parables. So it Jesus used it and it's a tool of Satan, then QED
Jesus must be Satan.

People like you do so much to prove that Christianity is a fairy tale
that I should be encouraging you to keep it up. After all anyone with
any rational cognitive ability that is exposed to your drivel and
recognizes it as genuine religious delusion will come to the conclusion
that what you believe has absolutely no basis in reality.

But I really would rather you address your issues so you can enjoy good
physical and mental health.

I really feel sorry for you and the future you have ahead of you.

I make my own prediction about you since you are so willing to project
bad things for me and your other neighbors. Keep this up and you'll
wind up as a gibbering idiot on disability. Or you could start taking
care of your mind the was you look after your body and enjoy life and
be a true benefit to others.

Cary Kittrell

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One Atheist Quote of the Month nomination, coming right up.

I mean, why should Andrew walk off with all the Usenet awards
around here, knowwhutumsayin?


-- cary

Cary Kittrell

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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>

"And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them,
and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god; either he is talking,
or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth,
and must be awaked."

Now THERE's sarcasm for you.

What was tha tabout "a tool of satan" again?


>
> > Logic?
>
> Yes. It is to the undiscerning like a walking cane is to the blind.
>
> > First of all, your assertion that if one were to curse "God" on
> > Usenet that they would die before the post appears is falsified by my
> > post.
>
> In the Holy Spirit, I know that those here on usenet who have attempted
> to curse GOD, Creator of heaven and earth, have died before their
> attempt could be actuated. This is not an assertion but an emphatic
> statement meant to discourage you from ever unwisely making such an
> attempt. Atheist psychologist Sigmund Freud would be an example of
> someone who cursed GOD and ended up dying an excruciating painful death
> filled with overwhelming anxiety and teeth gnashing panic.

Still waiting for you to tell us how Siggy was gnashing those
teeth as he died, when he had no lower jaw.

HERE
and waiting...

and waiting...

and waiting...

and waiting...

and waiting...

and waiting...

and waiting...

-- cary


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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mikem...@yahoo.com wrote:

Post-graduate training in internal medicine includes in-hospital
rotations in psychiatry and outpatient clinical experience in both the
diagnosis and treatment of psychiatric problems.

The unrestricted license to practice medicine includes the authority to
diagnose pyschiatric disorders and to prescribe psychotropic
medications.

Truth is simple.

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water to cure our
diabetes, depression, anxiety, or panic so that we can love our


neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor
Mike whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

mikem...@yahoo.com

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But that hardly makes you qualified now does it.

And you fail to respond to my challenge - so I conclude that you are
beginning to see that the nonsense you spout is just that. I
sincerely hope so - for your sake and the sake of all around you.

Good day to you.

mikem...@yahoo.com

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There should be little agony in a morphine overdose. Dr. Chung likes
to either make stuff up or repeat worn out Christian legends designed
to frighten young children to obediance.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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> But that hardly makes you qualified now does it.

If that were true, an active non-expired driver's license does not make
you qualified to drive on the road.

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our

diabetes, depression, anxiety, and panic so that we can love our

mikem...@yahoo.com

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You really want to debate this?

Ok -- extending your analogy - Passing a driver ed course in high
school then ignoring every thing you learned, never getting behind the
wheel until you have some notion 10 years later that you are ready to
get behind the wheel doesn't make you qualified to drive. It makes you
dangerous.

Having a driver's license wouldn't qualify you to drive
professionally anyway. Professional drivers need CDLs and have to pass
more stringent testing to get on the road. And in most cases those
drivers get considerable additional training.

An actually, as far as the law is concerned, having an expired license
does disqualify you and results in an enhanced penalty when you crack
up.

So what you are really trying to convince me of that you are just as
qualified to drive a big rig or NASCAR as you are to practice
psychiatry over the internet?

You really ought to come off it. You accuse people of being mentally
ill because they disagree with you and make sarcastic comments about
changing medication without seeing them. How does that conform to any
professional standard you are required to uphold?

mikem...@yahoo.com

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Sorry - replying to my own post to clear it up.

Should have written that:

Having an unexpired license does not mean one is qualified to drive.
If one is impaired by drugs, alcohol, mental disorder or other
impediment they are barred from driving and subject to arrest and
incarceration or a stiff fine if they do drive. That's because such a
driver, though licensed is recognized to be a danger to self and others

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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> You really want to debate this?

No. GOD's purpose for me here is to inform and not to either debate or
convince.

> Ok -- extending your analogy - Passing a driver ed course in high
> school then ignoring every thing you learned, never getting behind the
> wheel until you have some notion 10 years later that you are ready to
> get behind the wheel doesn't make you qualified to drive. It makes you
> dangerous.

Your example would be the exception rather than the rule.

> Having a driver's license wouldn't qualify you to drive
> professionally anyway. Professional drivers need CDLs and have to pass
> more stringent testing to get on the road. And in most cases those
> drivers get considerable additional training.

Not relevant to this discussion. See below.

> An actually, as far as the law is concerned, having an expired license
> does disqualify you and results in an enhanced penalty when you crack
> up.
>
> So what you are really trying to convince me of that you are just as
> qualified to drive a big rig or NASCAR as you are to practice
> psychiatry over the internet?

Am more than qualified to suggest you inform your doctor(s) about your
suicidal ideations.

> You really ought to come off it. You accuse people of being mentally


> ill because they disagree with you and make sarcastic comments about
> changing medication without seeing them. How does that conform to any
> professional standard you are required to uphold?

Your suicidal ideations are at a level higher than mere disagreement.

The thought of cursing GOD, Creator of heaven and earth after being
informed that it will be certain death for you is analogous to the
thought of pulling the trigger on a loaded gun after placing the barrel
in ones mouth.

Cary Kittrell

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Or, more likely, analogous to stepping on a crack after being informed
that it will certainly break your mother's back.


-- cary


Art Deco

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:

>Am more than qualified

Still boosting your hat size, Chunk?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Your analogy is not one of suicidal ideation by of the absence of love
for your mother to do something that you believe would possibly result
in breaking your mother's back.

May GOD, Creator of heaven and earth, continue to heal our hearts with
HIS living water healing our depression, anxiety, or panic so that we
can love others a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear
neighbor Cary whom I love unconditionally.

Cary Kittrell

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Well, you're right there. It was much simpler -- and more apt --
than ...than whatever that convoluted outrage to the mother tongue
is trying to tell us.


-- cary

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

<snip>

> > > > Your suicidal ideations are at a level higher than mere disagreement.
> > > >
> > > > The thought of cursing GOD, Creator of heaven and earth after being
> > > > informed that it will be certain death for you is analogous to the
> > > > thought of pulling the trigger on a loaded gun after placing the barrel
> > > > in ones mouth.
> > >
> > > Or, more likely, analogous to stepping on a crack after being informed
> > > that it will certainly break your mother's back.
> >

> > Your analogy is not one of suicidal ideation but of the absence of love


> > for your mother to do something that you believe would possibly result
> > in breaking your mother's back.
>
> Well, you're right there.

Glad to read that you agree.

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our

diabetes, depression, anxiety, or panic so that we can love our


neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor

Art Deco

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Andy B. Chunk in the "holy sprit", stroked his own ego and wrote:

>Convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > Convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
>> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>> > > > Your suicidal ideations are at a level higher than mere disagreement.
>> > > >
>> > > > The thought of cursing GOD, Creator of heaven and earth after being
>> > > > informed that it will be certain death for you is analogous to the
>> > > > thought of pulling the trigger on a loaded gun after placing the barrel
>> > > > in ones mouth.
>> > >
>> > > Or, more likely, analogous to stepping on a crack after being informed
>> > > that it will certainly break your mother's back.
>> >
>> > Your analogy is not one of suicidal ideation but of the absence of love
>> > for your mother to do something that you believe would possibly result
>> > in breaking your mother's back.
>>
>> Well, you're right there.
>
>Glad to read that you agree.

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Pastor Kutchie

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Dec 17, 2006, 7:46:47 AM12/17/06
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Michael Gray wrote:

> On 11 Nov 2006 00:23:27 -0800, lov...@thetruth.com wrote:
> - Refer: <1163233407....@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>


> >dkw1...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> I am amazed at the number of overweight people. There are so many that
> >> overweight is the majority and people have lost their perspective. They
> >> don't even see themselves as overweight. This perspective seems to be
> >> based on your own weight, and you view other people based on this.
> >>
> >> As I was losing weight, I couldn't help but look around me in any
> >> meeting place like a restaurant and check out who was overweight and
> >> who wasn't. The thing is, as I lost weight, it seemed to me there were
> >> more and more overweight people. My perspective changed. I used to
> >> think almost all Asians were underweight. Now I see them as normal
> >> weight mostly and it's US that are just fat. dkw
> >
> >Here's an exception:
> >
> >http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought
> >

> >Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
> >
> >Andrew <><
>

> Changed your fucking nym again, Earthquack?
> How's the kool-aid mixing going in your Chungstown garden-centre
> fountain-flogging shop?
> Killed any patients lately?
>
> --

Nope. None of the shops will sell him nail varnish remover.

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