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Pah...@gmail.com

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Apr 21, 2008, 3:19:01 PM4/21/08
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Because Galaxies Are Billions of Light-Years Away, Isn’t the Universe
Billions of Years Old? 8

Some people give another explanation for why we see distant stars in a
young universe. They believe God created a beam of light between Earth
and each star. Of course, a creation would immediately produce
completed things. Instantly, they would look much older than they
really were. This is called “creation with the appearance of age.” The
concept is sound. However, for starlight, this presents two
difficulties:

1. Bright, exploding stars are called “supernovas.” If starlight,
seemingly from a supernova, had been created en route to Earth and did
not originate at the surface of an exploding star, then what exploded?
Only a relatively short beam would have been created near Earth. If
the image of an explosion was created on that short beam of light,
then the star never existed and the explosion never happened. One
finds this hard to accept.

2. Every hot gas radiates a unique set of precise colors, called its
emission spectrum. The gaseous envelope around each star also emits
specific colors that identify the chemical composition of the gas.
Because all starlight has emission spectra, this strongly suggests
that a star’s light originated at the star—not in cold, empty space.
Each beam of starlight also carries other information, such as the
star’s spin rate, magnetic field, surface temperature, and the
chemical composition of the cold gases between the star and Earth. Of
course, God could have created this beam of light with all this
information in it. However, the real question is not, “Could God have
done it?” but, “Did He?”

Therefore, starlight seems to have originated at stellar surfaces, not
in empty space.

Surprising Observations. Starlight from distant stars and galaxies is
redshifted—meaning that their light is redder than one might expect.
Although other interpretations are possible, most astronomers have
interpreted redshifted light to be a wave effect, similar to that of
the lower pitch of a train’s whistle when the train is going away from
an observer. As the wave emitter (train or star) moves away from an
observer, the waves are stretched, making them lower in pitch (for the
train) or redder in color (for the star or galaxy). The greater a
star’s or galaxy’s redshift, the faster it is supposedly moving away
from us.

Since 1976, William Tifft, a University of Arizona astronomer, has
found that the redshifts of distant stars and galaxies typically
differ from each other by only a few fixed amounts (20). This is very
strange if stars are actually moving away from us. It would be as if
galaxies could travel only at specific speeds, jumping abruptly from
one speed to another, without passing through intermediate speeds. If
stars are not moving away from us at high speeds, the big bang theory
is wrong, along with many other related beliefs in the field of
cosmology. Other astronomers, not initially believing Tifft’s results,
did similar work and reached the same conclusion.

20. William G. Tifft, “Properties of the Redshift. III. Temporal
Variation,” The Astrophysical Journal, Vol. 382, 1 December 1991, pp.
396–415.

http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/FAQ15.html#wp1621525

J666

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Apr 21, 2008, 3:47:45 PM4/21/08
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So if we do not understand or cannot explain something, then some people look
to a God as the explanation. Many people do not like the unknown or
uncertainty, and a concept of a God gives comfort.

One easy theory to all these questions is that of a God because then can
always explain everything on that.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Apr 21, 2008, 4:16:41 PM4/21/08
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satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:

> So if we do not understand or cannot explain something, then some people look
> to a God as the explanation.

GOD is the Source of all understanding, knowledge, wisdom, and
intelligence.

Without HIM, you can neither understand nor explain anything.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling
you to unwittingly demonstrate how knowing GOD allows us, who are
Jesus' disciples, to explain your lack.

Laus Deo ! ! !

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May we, who are Jesus's disciples, continue to rebuke you at each GOD-
given opportunity as GOD desires:

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Apr 21, 2008, 4:38:03 PM4/21/08
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On Apr 21, 8:19 pm, Pah...@gmail.com wrote:
nothing of any use whatsoever.

Suggest you try peddling this tripe in talk.origins where you will
undoubtedly receive the intellectual ass whupping you so clearly need.

Clod

zob

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Apr 21, 2008, 8:48:31 PM4/21/08
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I learned 30 years ago in college Philosophy 101 that you cannot prove
that God does not exist. No point in even trying; any rationale you
use will be purely speculative.

It's better to concentrate on dealing with the things that you *can*
prove and that others can benefit from. Unless, of course you're just
trying to bait a certain whacko "doctor" ... which I guess in a way
would give a sort of point to dissing the religion of 2 billion
people.

Zob

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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J A

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Then "god" invented communicable diseases, too.

If you like god explanations, then don't get scientific immunizations or
other medical treaments.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Because Galaxies Are Billions of Light-Years Away, Isn’t the Universe
Billions of Years Old? 9

For the light from all galaxies to arrive at Earth tonight, the more
distant galaxies, which had to release their light long before the
closer galaxies, did not have as much time to rotate and twist their
arms. Therefore, farther galaxies should have less twist. Of course,
if light traveled millions of times faster in the past, the farthest
galaxies did not have to send their light long before the nearest
galaxies. Spiral galaxies should have similar twists. This turns out
to be the case (21). The galaxies are: A) M33, or NGC 598; B) M101, or
NGC 5457; C) M51, or NGC 5194; D) NGC 4559; E) M88, or NGC 4501; and
F) NGC 772. All distances are taken from R. Brent Tully, Nearby
Galaxies Catalog (New York: Cambridge University Press, 1988).

All atoms give off tiny bundles of energy (called quanta) of fixed
amounts—and nothing in between. So Setterfield believes that the
“quantization of redshifts,” as many describe it, is an atomic effect,
not a strange recessional-velocity effect. If space slowly absorbs
energy from all emitted light, it would do so in fixed increments.
This would redshift starlight, with the farthest star’s light being
redshifted the most. Setterfield is working on a theory to tie this
and the decay in the speed of light together. If he is correct, we
should soon see the redshifts of a few distant galaxies suddenly
decrease. This may explain why two distinct redshifts are seen in each
of several well-studied galaxies (22). Those seemingly typical
galaxies are not flying apart!

Another surprising observation is that most distant galaxies look
remarkably similar to nearer galaxies. For example, galaxies are fully
developed and show no signs of evolving. This puzzles astronomers.

(23). If the speed of light has decreased drastically, these distant,
yet mature, galaxies no longer need explaining.

Also, the light from a distant galaxy would have reached Earth not too
long after the light from nearby galaxies. This may be why spiral
galaxies, both near and far, have similar twists.

21. “The biggest challenge to the standard model of galaxy formation,
Labbé says, could be the number of large galaxies showing the spiral
structure that he and his colleagues found in the early universe.”
Ivo Labbé, as quoted by Ron Cowen, “Mature before Their Time,” Science
News, Vol. 163, 1 March 2003, p. 139.

22. William G. Tifft and W. John Cocke, “Quantized Galaxy Redshifts,”
Sky & Telescope, January 1987, p. 19.

23. “Most Distant Galaxies: Surprisingly Mature,” Science News, Vol.
119, 7 March 1981, p. 148.

http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/FAQ15.html#wp1621525

J A

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That's the best you can do in answer to:

" Then "god" invented communicable diseases, too.

If you like god explanations, then don't get scientific immunizations or

other medical treatments. "

Your brain is gone.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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http://HeartMDPhD.com/ quack quack


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OK, I just pulled 3 cards out of a deck.

Have the holy spirit tell you which 3 cards and then post it.


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Apr 22, 2008, 9:16:19 PM4/22/08
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satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
>
> OK, I just pulled 3 cards out of a deck.
>
> Have the holy spirit tell you which 3 cards and then post it.

You have no authority here in this world to issue any commands.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling

you to unwittingly demonstrate that you suffer from the delusion that
you still have the power and authority that LORD Jesus Christ has
taken from you since HIS resurrection.

Therefore, you are indeed...

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May we, who are Jesus' disciples, continue to rebuke you at each GOD-

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Amen.

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Marana tha

J A

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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heart...@emorycardiology.com> wrote in message
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> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
>>
>> OK, I just pulled 3 cards out of a deck.
>>
>> Have the holy spirit tell you which 3 cards and then post it.
>
> You have no authority here in this world to issue any commands.

So, you can't tell me which 3 cards???

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Apr 22, 2008, 9:59:59 PM4/22/08
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satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
> >>
> >> OK, I just pulled 3 cards out of a deck.
> >>
> >> Have the holy spirit tell you which 3 cards and then post it.
> >
> > You have no authority here in this world to issue any commands.
>
> So, you can't tell me which 3 cards???

Reminds me of your once foolishly challenging Jesus with:

"If you truly are the Son of GOD, then turn this stone to bread so
that you can eat."

Just as Jesus chose to do the will of HIS Father in heaven rather than
your will, I follow HIS lead in doing what GOD desires.

As it is written in three places in the Bible, man does not live on
bread alone but on every word that comes out of the mouth of GOD
(Deuteronomy 8:3, Matthew 4:4, Luke 4:4).

J A

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DanielSan

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
>>>> OK, I just pulled 3 cards out of a deck.
>>>>
>>>> Have the holy spirit tell you which 3 cards and then post it.
>>> You have no authority here in this world to issue any commands.
>> So, you can't tell me which 3 cards???
>
> Reminds me of your once foolishly challenging Jesus with:
>
> "If you truly are the Son of GOD, then turn this stone to bread so
> that you can eat."

Or Thomas' demand for proof that Jesus was resurrected, even demanding
to see the wounds.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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satan via another sockpuppet despairingly posted:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
>
> >>>> OK, I just pulled 3 cards out of a deck.
> >>>>
> >>>> Have the holy spirit tell you which 3 cards and then post it.

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Crazysatan

> >>> You have no authority here in this world to issue any commands.
>
> >> So, you can't tell me which 3 cards???
> >
> > Reminds me of your once foolishly challenging Jesus with:
> >
> > "If you truly are the Son of GOD, then turn this stone to bread so
> > that you can eat."
>
> Or Thomas' demand for proof that Jesus was resurrected, even demanding
> to see the wounds.

Incorrect. Thomas simply stated what he believed he needed to believe
that Jesus is risen. Thankfully, when Thomas was tested with the
opportunity to seize what he needed, he discovered that he had faith
in Jesus being GOD and did not need proof.

"My LORD and my GOD!" -- Disciple Thomas falling on his face before
Jesus without either putting his finger in the holes in HIS hands or
his hand in the hole in Jesus' right side.

Bottom line:

You remain...

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J A

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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J A

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Another chung failure.

What are the 3 cards I drew?


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Drafterman

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On Apr 21, 4:16 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
>
> > So if we do not understand or cannot explain something, then some people look
> > to a God as the explanation.
>
> GOD is the Source of all understanding, knowledge, wisdom, and
> intelligence.

Prove it.

> Lawful steward ofhttp://EmoryCardiology.com

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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neighbor Drafterman wrote:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
> >
> > > So if we do not understand or cannot explain something, then some people look
> > > to a God as the explanation.
> >
> > GOD is the Source of all understanding, knowledge, wisdom, and
> > intelligence.
>
> Prove it.

HE's done it:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/ProofsByGOD

<><

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Counsels

Rod

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
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> <><
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> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Warns


Which 3 cards were they Andy ?

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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convicted friend Rod wrote:

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> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>

> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Feeblesatan


>
> Which 3 cards were they Andy ?

Followed Jesus' example of turning my back to satan while rebuking him
so did not even bother to look:

http://ABChung.LiveJournal.com/114805.html

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guardian Snow

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On Apr 24, 3:05 am, Rod <icom...@att.net> wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>


> Which 3 cards were they Andy ?

He posted all the answer right here:

http://groups.google.com/group/i-hate-andrew-b-chung-mdphds-spam

You should learn to trust in the Chung

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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