The above lists only the highlights of Dr. Chung's Christian behavior
on s.m.c. If anything, it understates it. Everything can be verified
in the Google archives. He witnesses to all at
http://www.heartmdphd.com/healer.asp.
People arrive in this group looking for help. Dr. Chung has
graciously provided this over several years
(http://makeashorterlink.com/?H10A13167). Dr. Chung consistently
demonstrates the breadth of his knowledge and experience. This is
archived many times over in Google.
List of Questions Answered
--------------------------
1. Who is Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD?
2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the Charter?
4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with that?
5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature.
6. But I'm a Christian Too!
7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free medical
information out of the goodness of his heart?
9. How does a cardiologist have so much time to spend on Usenet?
10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those who
challenge Dr. Chung?
12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks?
13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
14. What is the Two Pound Diet?
15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"?
16. Who is Mu?
17. What is Mu's role?
18. Who is Steve?
19. What is Steve's role?
20. Who is Bob?
21. What is Bob's role?
22. Who is Stephen?
23. What is Stephen's role?
24. Is this spam?
25. Who is the author of this FAQ?
26. Do Dr. Chung's posts fit the definition of "spam" as some allege?
27. Are Mu, John, CarolT, and Dr. Chung the same person as some
allege?
1. Who is Dr. Andrew B Chung, MD/PhD?
-------------------------------------
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD is a licensed doubly board-certified
cardiologist practicing cardiovascular medicine in Atlanta, Georgia,
USA. His signature contains a link to http://www.heartmdphd.com,
which is consistent with his posts and qualifications.
2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
---------------------------------
The purpose of this newsgroup is to establish electronic media for
communication between health care providers, scientists and other
individuals with interest in the cardiovascular field. Such
communications will provide quick and efficacious means to exchange
information and knowledge, and offer problems to solutions.
The sci.med.cardiology newsgroup will welcome participants who are
health care providers, trainees, researchers, students or recipients
with interest in the field of cardiovascular problems."
(ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/sci/sci.med.cardiology)
3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the charter?
-------------------------------------------------------
They are if these discussions represent "communication between health
care providers, scientists and other individuals with interest in the
cardiovascular field." It should be noted that Christ remains a
healthcare provider (http://www.heartmdphd.com/healer.asp), who has
demonstrated an interest in the cardiovascular field when He
"resuscitated" Lazarus.
4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with that?
-------------------------------------------------------------
Some people are fiercely anti-christian.
5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature, isn't it?
----------------------------------------------------------------
Yes it is. But it offends those who are anti-christian.
6. But I'm a Christian too! Should I worry?
-------------------------------------------
No. You have Christ's promise of eternal life and the unimaginable
riches of God's kingdom.
7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
--------------------------------------------------
Anti-christians are unable to do that.
8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free medical
information out of the goodness of his heart?
----------------------------------------------------------
God is wonderful.
9. How does a cardiologist have so much time to spend on Usenet?
----------------------------------------------------------------
God makes time for those whom He blesses.
10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
--------------------------------------------------
Do not concern yourself with the free will of others.
11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those who
challenge Dr. Chung?
--------------------------------------------------------------
God uses anti-christians for His purposes. These posts are according
to His will.
12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks?
----------------------------------------------
This is how anti-christian folks are identified so they can be culled
from His flock.
13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
-------------------------------
Not really a question unless you ask yourself "why?"
14. What is the Two Pound Diet (TPD) approach?
----------------------------------------------
See: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp
15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"?
---------------------------------------------------
Yes. It cures Metabolic Syndrome (MetS) which is a condition that
leads to higher rates of heart attacks and strokes.
16. Who is Mu?
--------------
A Christian (http://makeashorterlink.com/?S5A631E57).
17. What is Mu's role?
----------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
18. Who is Steve?
-----------------
An anti-christian (http://makeashorterlink.com/?A20055A37). He
authors the untrue versions of this FAQ
(http://makeashorterlink.com/?S10252097).
19. What is Steve's role?
-------------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
20. Who is Bob?
---------------
A food worshipper (http://makeashorterlink.com/?T48662E57). He is
obsessively drawn to the 2PD approach
(http://www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp). He is also obsessed with this
FAQ (http://makeashorterlink.com/?R2C134097) and can be seen writing
to himself about it.
21. What is Bob's role?
-----------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
22. Who is Stephen?
-------------------
An anti-christian Jew who believes that "Jesus is no more the Messiah
than Elvis Presley" (http://makeashorterlink.com/?J1B623B67). He is so
taken with Dr. Chung's Christian beliefs that he is now a cyberstalker
(http://makeashorterlink.com/?Y25611B67) by his own admitted actions.
In his continued cyberstalking of Dr. Chung, he has learned that Dr.
Chung has a long history of reporting those who would willfully
trespass against others (http://makeashorterlink.com/?V28141097 and
http://makeashorterlink.com/? ). A few words to the wise can be found
at http://www.heartmdphd.com/stalking.asp in this regard.
23. What is Stephen's role?
---------------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
24. Is this spam?
-----------------
No, this is a FAQ.
25. Who is the author of this FAQ?
----------------------------------
There are multiple contributors and they choose to remain anonymous
although they respect Dr. Chung's choice not to be anonymous.
26. Do Dr. Chung's posts fit the definition of "spam" as some allege?
---------------------------------------------------------------------
No. Spam on Usenet are stand-alone advertisements and not unique
responses to the posts of others.
27. Are Mu, John, CarolT, and Dr. Chung the same person as some
allege?
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
No. Mu, John, CarolT, and Andrew are 4 distinctly different Christian
individuals.
Comments and/or corrections to this FAQ will be taken under advisement
via comm...@faqbot.net.
29. What does "for cause" mean?
-------------------------------------
When a physician is hired to work as an employee for another
physician, a group of physicians, a clinic, or another corporate
entity, that contract may be terminated by the employer at any time
either "for cause" or "not for cause." Under a typical contract, the
employer may terminate the employment "for cause" only if the
physician has been found guilty of a felony, if the physician has been
grossly negligent, if the physician has repeatedly used poor medical
judgement thereby endangering patients and has been unwilling to
accept constructive criticism in this regard, or if the physician has
been unethical in his dealings with patients, colleagues, or other
employees.
30. If a physician's contract is terminated "for cause," does the
physician have any recourse?
-------------------------------------
The physician can submit his or her case for arbitration or trial.
31. What did Dr. Chung do when his contract was terminated for cause?
-------------------------------------
He submitted his case for arbitration.
32. What was the result of the arbitration?
-------------------------------------
After carefully assessing both sides of the story, the arbitrator
found that the termination for cause was justified.
33. What was the specific offense that led to Dr. Chung's contract
being terminated for cause?
-------------------------------------
That is up to Dr. Chung to disclose or not disclose as he may desire.
34. Why did Dr. Chung report Stephen to the police for stalking and
harassment?
.....................................
Stephen had the unmitigated gall to post the trurth on this newsgroup
- that Dr. Chung lied to the AMA in stating that he had staff
privileges at three Atlanta-area hospitals when such was not the case.
35. What did the police think about Dr. Chung's accusations regarding
Stephen?
.....................................
The police found Dr. Chung to have no credibility whatsoever and
closed the case.
36. Dr. Chung has referred to Stephen as "anti-Christian." Is this
an accurate characterization?
....................................
Stephen is anti-hypocrisy, not anti-Christian. And in that sense
Stephen is very much anti-Chung.
37. What does any of this have to do with the sci.med.cardiology
newsgroup?
-------------------------------------
Dr. Chung addresses numerous issues - medical and non-medical - on the
sci.med.cardiology newsgroup. The information outlined in this
"addendum" to Dr. Chung's FAQ is written for the purpose of lending
some balance and additional perspective. Each reader must make his or
her own decision with respect to the quality and reliability of the
information Dr. Chung provides on this newsgroup, via e-mail, via the
web, via telephone, or in person. In my opinion nobody should ever
take medical information provided on Internet sites at face value.
All such information should be thoroughly discussed with each
respective reader's own physician.
Stephen M. Nagler, M.D.
All praises belong to God :-)
Servant to the humblest person in the universe,
Andrew
--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/
**
Who is the humblest person in the universe?
http://makeashorterlink.com/?W1F522557
What is all this about?
http://makeashorterlink.com/?J2DB148A7
Is this spam?
http://makeashorterlink.com/?N69721867
All praise belong to my Lord and Savior :-)
Servant to the humblest person in the universe,
Andrew
--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
29. Why is Dr. Chung - supposedly a practicing cardiologist - so
incredibly secretive about the real address of his office?
-------------------------------------
No idea; he may have much to hide! But if you call "411" and ask for
his office phone number, you get 770-739-7500. That phone number
corresponds to 5701 Mableton Parkway.
30. Why did Dr. Chung leave Ocala, Florida?
-------------------------------------
Dr. Chung's contract at a respected cardiology center there was
terminated *for cause* after less than four months of employment.
31. What does "for cause" mean?
-------------------------------------
When a physician is hired to work as an employee for another
physician, a group of physicians, a clinic, or another corporate
entity, that contract may be terminated by the employer at any time
either "for cause" or "not for cause." Under a typical contract, the
employer may terminate the employment "for cause" only if the
physician has been found guilty of a felony, if the physician has been
grossly negligent, if the physician has repeatedly used poor medical
judgement thereby endangering patients and has been unwilling to
accept constructive criticism in this regard, or if the physician has
been unethical in his dealings with patients, colleagues, or other
employees.
32. If a physician's contract is terminated "for cause," does the
physician have any recourse?
-------------------------------------
The physician can submit his or her case for arbitration or trial.
33.. What did Dr. Chung do when his contract was terminated for
cause?
-------------------------------------
He submitted his case for arbitration.
34. What was the result of the arbitration?
-------------------------------------
After carefully assessing both sides of the story, the arbitrator
found that the termination for cause was justified.
35. What was the specific offense that led to Dr. Chung's contract
being terminated for cause?
-------------------------------------
That is up to Dr. Chung to disclose or not disclose as he may desire.
36. Why did Dr. Chung report Stephen to the police for stalking and
harassment?
.....................................
Stephen had the unmitigated gall to post the trurth on this newsgroup
- that Dr. Chung lied to the AMA in stating that he had staff
privileges at three Atlanta-area hospitals when such was not the case.
37. What did the police think about Dr. Chung's accusations regarding
Stephen?
.....................................
The police found Dr. Chung to have no credibility whatsoever and
closed the case.
38. Dr. Chung has referred to Stephen as "anti-Christian." Is this
an accurate characterization?
....................................
Stephen is anti-hypocrisy, not anti-Christian. And in that sense
Stephen is very much anti-Chung.
39. What does any of this have to do with the sci.med.cardiology
> X-No-archive: yes
>
> "Stephen Nagler" <nag...@tinn.com> wrote in message
> news:g04i80dfq3veeo8de...@4ax.com...
> 40. Is Stephen obsessed with Dr. Chung ? :-)
>
> A: ?????? ;-)
Yes.
He remains in my prayers to God, in Christ's name.
May he accept Christ as his personal Lord and Savior, someday, so that his
obsessions might be cured.
Rules are made for good causes. In this case, who is to say
if the details revealed might not be used by a sick or
criminal individual to do physical harm to DR. Chung.
jp
>40. Is Stephen obsessed with Dr. Chung ? :-)
................
Furious, disgusted, and repulsed? Yes.
Obsessed? No
smn
Appreciate the concern.
It is unlikely that reporting Stephen to his ISP will do anything more
than fan the flames of his obsessions. Truly, my wish would be that he
receive medical care. This may only happen after he is arrested.
As for my being stalked, the authorities have been notified and they are
aware of the problem. It is their job to intervene as this situation
further destabilizes.
Meanwhile, Stephen remains in my prayers to God, in Christ's name.
Why don't you just killfile him as you suggest others do?
Terri
> X-No-archive: yes
>
> "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> news:40898453...@heartmdphd.com...
> > jpuget wrote:
> >
> > > A complaint should be lodged with Nadler's service provider
> > > for revealing details realting to the private life of
> > > an individual on a newsgroup.
> > >
> > > Rules are made for good causes. In this case, who is to say
> > > if the details revealed might not be used by a sick or
> > > criminal individual to do physical harm to DR. Chung.
> > >
> > > jp
> >
> > Appreciate the concern.
> >
> > It is unlikely that reporting Stephen to his ISP will do anything more
> > than fan the flames of his obsessions. Truly, my wish would be that he
> > receive medical care. This may only happen after he is arrested.
>
> Oh My ! " Stephen Nagler arrested and medicated for cyberstalking" LOL
>
Yes, arrested for stalking.
Then, perhaps a wise judge might order the medical care.
>
> > As for my being stalked, the authorities have been notified and they are
> > aware of the problem. It is their job to intervene as this situation
> > further destabilizes.
>
> I didn't see the point in Nagler posting your address on the NG though !
It betrays his claims that he is not obsessed.
> On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 20:12:51 GMT, Stephen Nagler <nag...@tinn.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 21:21:30 +0530, "Fox" <foxi...@wanadoo.fr>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>40. Is Stephen obsessed with Dr. Chung ? :-)
> >
> >................
> >
> >Furious, disgusted, and repulsed? Yes.
> >
> >Obsessed? No
> >
> >smn
>
> Why don't you just killfile him as you suggest others do?
>
> Terri
>
It seems you also have the gift of truth discernment :-)
Must be pretty bad, would very much like to know so that I can decide
whether or not his postings have value.
> so that I can decide
> whether or not his postings have value.
;)
> Why don't you just killfile him as you suggest others do?<<<<<<<<<
Some people just love to argue, it's part of their makeup it doesn't
make them bad people. I think that there are a few here like that,
they actually care for one another and in reality and their continued
discourse, despite all things, is a testament to their caring for each
other.
Disputes and a degree of deviance in behaviour is what makes the human
race 'human' and loving those with the most extreme deviance of
behaviours, compared to our own behaviour and nature, is a test of us.
People don't 'killfile' others (even when they claim to) because human
diversity enriches our lives, including that which we think we don't
like.
And we do like to have our lives enriched :o)
Carol T
JJJJJJJJJJJJJJesusisthebestHehelpsusthroughanyarguementanddisputeeeeeeeeeeeee
That He is and does :-)
> A complaint should be lodged with Nadler's service provider
> for revealing details realting to the private life of
> an individual on a newsgroup.
Perhaps you should read the group for a while so you can realt [sic]
to the participants.
> Rules are made for good causes.
What "rule" is it that you say is being violated?
> In this case, who is to say
> if the details revealed might not be used by a sick or
> criminal individual to do physical harm to DR. Chung.
Chung and his friend Mu have tried on several occasions to reach out
into real life to cause harm. Talk to them first.
I love your fake address. What color are your socks...?
Bob
> It is unlikely that reporting Stephen to his ISP will do anything more
> than fan the flames of his obsessions. Truly, my wish would be that he
> receive medical care. This may only happen after he is arrested.
He'll only be arrested if Chung gets the sort of insane fundamentalist
government in Georgia that Al-Qaida and the Taliban think is good.
People have to do illegal things before they're arrested. The police
in Atlanta got an annoyed laugh from Chung's complaint. Not nice to
file frivolous, unfounded complaints with civil authorities. They
don't forget being toyed with. They don't forget malicious complaints.
> As for my being stalked, the authorities have been notified and they are
> aware of the problem.
The "authorities" have closed the "case" that Chung tried to create.
Dismissed out of hand; no further action planned.
> It is their job to intervene as this situation
> further destabilizes.
What's unstable in the situation is Chung's mental condition. The
police deal with his sort every day. That's why they didn't even
bother to look into it very far. Just another nutcase complaining to
try to hurt someone.
Bob
All praises belong to God Almighty, Creator of the universe and its laws.
Servant to the humblest person in the universe,
Andrew
--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>>40. Is Stephen obsessed with Dr. Chung ? :-)
>
>................
>
>Furious, disgusted, and repulsed? Yes.
>
>Obsessed? No
You obsession with denying your obsessions is infuriating, disgusting
and repulsive.
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap960222.html
Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.
> On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 20:12:51 GMT, Stephen Nagler <nag...@tinn.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>40. Is Stephen obsessed with Dr. Chung ? :-)
>>................
>>
>>Furious, disgusted, and repulsed? Yes.
>>
>>Obsessed? No
>
> You obsession with denying your obsessions is infuriating, disgusting
> and repulsive.
<LOL> Nobody else is halfwit enough to write something as patently
absurd as that. Congratulations on establishing a new low in
measurable IQ. <LOL>
Too funny. Chung and Mu repeatedly and repeatedly accuse and when
Stephen asserts otherwise, he's the obsessive one. Looks to me like
the one who initiates it is the obsessive one. Or, in this case, ones.
Mirror, mirror on the wall
who's most obsessive of them all?
Hard to choose 'tween Chung and Mu.
I'll leave deciding up to you...
No incorrect answer to this little quiz...
<LOL>
What a pair...
Bob
29. Why did Dr. Chung purposely mislead the readership of this
newsgroup with respect to #28 above.
-------------------------------------
He has no respect for the readership of this newsgroup, and he has no
respect for himself.
Stephen M. Nagler, M.D.
May Christ have all the glory :-)
Servant to the humblest person in the universe,
Andrew
--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>It is unlikely that reporting Stephen to his ISP will do anything more
>than fan the flames of his obsessions. Truly, my wish would be that he
>receive medical care. This may only happen after he is arrested.
>
>As for my being stalked, the authorities have been notified and they are
>aware of the problem. It is their job to intervene as this situation
>further destabilizes.
I guess this means no lunch with the nutcase, huh?
Bob likes to think he is an upscale, right on kind of guy. But in the
darkness, he would prefer to endanger the lives of cardiac care
patients so he TROLLS sci.med.cardiology dozens of times each day. Bob
recently had traumatic cardiac surgery that saved his life and this is
the thanks he shows.
Now you know all you need to know about this king-sized egomaniac.
===============================================================
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 19:05:37 -0400, "Bob (this one)" <B...@nospam.com>
wrote:
><LOL> Nobody else is halfwit enough to write something as patently
>absurd as that. Congratulations on establishing a new low in
>measurable IQ. <LOL>
>
>Too funny. Chung and Mu repeatedly and repeatedly accuse and when
>Stephen asserts otherwise, he's the obsessive one. Looks to me like
>the one who initiates it is the obsessive one. Or, in this case, ones.
>
>Mirror, mirror on the wall
>who's most obsessive of them all?
>Hard to choose 'tween Chung and Mu.
>I'll leave deciding up to you...
>
>No incorrect answer to this little quiz...
>
><LOL>
>
>What a pair...
>
>Bob
>16. Who is Mu?
>--------------
>A Christian (http://makeashorterlink.com/?S5A631E57).
Got that right.
>17. What is Mu's role?
>----------------------
>To serve God's will and purpose.
No other.
>27. Are Mu, John, CarolT, and Dr. Chung the same person as some
>allege?
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>No. Mu and Andrew are 2 distinctly different Christian
>individuals.
I wish you would stop that. There IS some sucker out there that will
dump $10,000 to lose that bet.
> On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 17:02:11 -0400, "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>
> >It is unlikely that reporting Stephen to his ISP will do anything more
> >than fan the flames of his obsessions. Truly, my wish would be that he
> >receive medical care. This may only happen after he is arrested.
> >
> >As for my being stalked, the authorities have been notified and they are
> >aware of the problem. It is their job to intervene as this situation
> >further destabilizes.
>
> I guess this means no lunch with the nutcase, huh?
It would only exacerbate his illness.
Servant to the humblest person in the universe,
Andrew
--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
It seems that the author(s) of this FAQ doesn't care about the $10,000
bet. Perhaps you should up it to $1,000,000.00 in US dollars :-)
Servant to the humblest person in the universe,
Andrew
--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>> >27. Are Mu, John, CarolT, and Dr. Chung the same person as some
>> >allege?
>> >-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >No. Mu and Andrew are 2 distinctly different Christian
>> >individuals.
>>
>> I wish you would stop that. There IS some sucker out there that will
>> dump $10,000 to lose that bet.
>>
>> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap960222.html
>> Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.
>
>It seems that the author(s) of this FAQ doesn't care about the $10,000
>bet. Perhaps you should up it to $1,000,000.00 in US dollars :-)
A zero or two out of my range.
Btw, you will soon be getting a Surgeon's report from one Dr. Payne
who recently took a out a "shot" at my butt.
> What a pair...
Send pictures!
Just let go and move on...Life is too short.
++++++++++++++++==================
"Bob (this one)" <B...@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<10m5clk...@corp.supernews.com>...
> Bob,
>
> Just let go and move on...Life is too short.
Francis, we take our small delights where we can. It is a good feeling
to shine a light on the rotten spots in the human race. And it's a
good feeling to laugh. Better still to combine them
Bob