Hebrews 6:4-6
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> "Giant Waffle" <_>
> >
> > Btw, has anyone noticed that those who have been most
> > rabid toward Randy and I here, are those who do not
> > gather together with other believers in church? Hmmm...
> > I guess this is what happens, when a person is left to
> > their own devices. They start rejecting God's word
> > and get delusions of Godhood, such as Glenn did.
> > He believes that he holds the key to the entire Bible
> > and that anyone who disagrees with him is of the Devil
> > and yet, here he is, this whole time, disagreeing with
> > what the Bible says in this matter! And these people,
> > just like Glenn did, also find themselves agreeing with
> > unbelievers. And the sad part is, that they don't seem
> > to care. (:
>
> When the brothers and sisters gather in your church do they speak to each
> other as you do in the post below?
>
> > From: Pastor Dave - view profile
> > Date: Fri, Sep 30 2005 11:03 pm
> > Email: Pastor Dave <1news-group-ma...@nospam-tampa-bay.rr.com>
> > Groups: soc.men, alt.christnet.christianlife,
> > rec.sport.pro-wrestling, rec.arts.poems, rec.photo.digital, alt.usenet.kooks
<snip>
> > >What do you think, moron?
>
> > Goodbye, whore.
>
> > Pastor Dave Raymond
> > 1st Century Church of Christ
The name-calling simply confirms that Dave and the company that he
keeps are lost.
Both Dave and Randy call to mind the following passage from Hebrews
6:4-6...
"It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have
tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have
tasted the goodness of the Word of GOD and the powers of the coming
age, if they fall away, to be brought back to repentence, because to
their loss they are crucifying the Son of GOD all over again and
subjecting HIM to public disgrace."
**** End Scriptural excerpt ****
May GOD bless their lost souls and save them, in Jesus' most precious
and holy name.
"With GOD all things are possible." (Matthew 19:26)
And, may GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water, dear
sister Grace whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f4dad7fe68478acf?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew wrote:
> >> who is mocking heaven, hell, and those who mention them. This isn't
> >> the same as believers meeting in church.
> >
> > Are you saying its allright for a pastor to
> > use this kind of language in speaking to someone as long as they are not a
> > believer?
>
> Jesus called a Samaritan woman a dog.
In truth, Jesus did not.
Using an analogy to explain something is not name-calling.
Source:
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/name-calling
Bottomline: You remain untruthful.
Jude Alexander
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:1160353550.4...@c28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
According to the gospels, Jesus didn't call her a dog directly but her
compared her to a dog at the table of the masters, Jews.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> >
> > Source:
> >
> > http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/name-calling
>
> compared her to a dog at the table of the masters, Jews.
Actually, the analogy is this:
The miraculous signs of healing and casting out of demons were for the
Jews and not the non-Jews per the will of GOD the Father just as the
food from the table is for the Master to give to HIS children and not
the dogs under the table.
The Master in the analogy is GOD and not the Jews.
Without the counsel of the Great Counselor, Who is GOD the Holy Spirit,
you will always misintepret the Bible.
"The Bible is Holy." -- Holy Spirit
Amen !
Laus Deo ! !
Marana tha ! ! !
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water, dear brother
Jude whom I love unconditionally.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> "Randy" <pulpi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:fj5ji2p72gv4ddq6n...@pulpitfire.org...
<snip>
> > You're referring to the single word "whore"?
>
> No, I am refering to the entire post. Not only the insulting words but the
> vulgar ones. It not only gives a bad impression of a pastor but of his
> church as well.How can you be a leader if you do not set a good example?
Ex-president Clinton comes to mind.
Let us continue to pray for him and for Randy, in Jesus' most precious
and holy name.
"It is my heavenly Father's job to judge, the Holy Spirit's job to
convict, and my job to love." -- Reverend Billy Graham when asked about
his meeting with the ex-president.
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water, dear sister
Grace whom I love unconditionally.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Randy wrote:
> > Grace wrote:
> >>>
> >>> "Goodbye whore".
> >>
> >> Read it again.
> >
> > I just did the research, and here's what it turns up:
> >
<snip>
> >
> > Dave's response, in article:
> > o2vrj1d1v69k9fr9u...@4ax.com, was:
> >
> >>Goodbye, Whore.
> >
> > So he called an unbeliever who just mocked heaven and hell, a "whore",
> > a year ago. Now what?
> >
> > There's no need for me to make a statement about this kind of thing,
> > because I already have many times in the past. And when I did, it
> > wasn't something like, "I'm against name calling, but am not claiming
> > you did anything wrong", either.
> >
> > So now, where is your rebuke for Owd's ongoing campaign that claims
> > Dave and I endorse forced sex and rape in marriage? If you don't have
> > anything to say about that, or his declaration of war, or the
> > numerously documented cases, where he obviously manipulated and
> > misrepresented what we said, then I don't want to hear anything more
> > about some word "whore" Dave used a year ago.
>
> I suggest you put me in your killfile
> then. You will not now or ever tell me what I can or must do in an
> umoderated newsgroup.
It's time for you to put away your sword.
Through you, Vic, Glenn, Sioux, Diana, Feather, Sensi, et al, GOD has
essentially reduced Randy and Dave to piles of rubble.
It's time for our LORD to heal all the broken hearts.
"Those who live by the sword die by the sword." -- LORD Jesus Christ
Amen !
Laus Deo ! !
Marana tha ! ! !
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water, dear sister
Jude Alexander
Yet, Jesus revealed Himself as Messiah, according to gospels, to a Samaritan
woman before anybody else.
> The Master in the analogy is GOD and not the Jews.
Well, I did say it wrong. The Master is God but the CHILDREN who get fed in
the analogy are the Jews.
AND, according to gospel writer, when Jesus heard her reply, He changed His
mind about ministering to her.
> Without the counsel of the Great Counselor, Who is GOD the Holy Spirit,
> you will always misintepret the Bible.
Oh puuuuuuuuuuuuleze. I guess when the bible says there are 14 and you
count and there are only 13, THAT is because the "Holy Spirit" isn't there
to explain? Or when you look at two books in the bible explaining the same
event, they don't match completely?
THIS is why Fundies are laughed at and not taken seriously.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Not by either healing or the casting out of demons.
> > The Master in the analogy is GOD and not the Jews.
>
> Well, I did say it wrong.
More than that, you misinterpreted the analogy.
> The Master is God but the CHILDREN who get fed in
> the analogy are the Jews.
GOD's will be done and not our will.
> AND, according to gospel writer, when Jesus heard her reply, He changed His
> mind about ministering to her.
GOD's will is both infinite and free.
It is written that HE changed HIS mind about Nineveh too (Jonah).
> > Without the counsel of the Great Counselor, Who is GOD the Holy Spirit,
> > you will always misintepret the Bible.
>
> Oh puuuuuuuuuuuuleze.
Yes.
> I guess when the bible says there are 14 and you
> count and there are only 13, THAT is because the "Holy Spirit" isn't there
> to explain?
It means you did not count the Holy Spirit being there as the 14th
witness.
> Or when you look at two books in the bible explaining the same
> event, they don't match completely?
"The testimony of two truthful witnesses will never match completely."
-- Holy Spirit
> THIS is why Fundies are laughed at and not taken seriously.
"They will stop laughing soon." -- Holy Spirit
http://mabletonga.ourlittle.net/SolarEclipse
"Those who do the will of MY Father are MY family." -- LORD Jesus
Christ
Amen !
Laus Deo ! !
Marana tha ! ! !
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating to give you time to
understand this, dear neighbor Jude whom I love unconditionally.