Here is a simple parable given in hopes of promoting greater
understanding:
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
CindyB wrote:
> Ok, so, I am really trying to eat the right foods, but again, failing
> horribly at it. I went to McDonald's today on my lunch and thought I
> would get a salad. I hate salad, but I know it is good for you, so I
> ordered one.
>
> I am so spacy right now and soooo tired, I want to sleep at my work
> desk. I just checked the nutritional guide from McDonald's and this
> is what my "healthy" salad contains:
>
> Calories: 450
> Fat: 21
> Cholestero: 55
> Sodium:970
> Carbos: 40
> Sugar: 12
>
>
> 21 grams of fat and 40 grams of carbos....could that be why I am sooo
> sleepy??? F McDonalds and their "healthy" salads. grrrr. I have high
> blood pressure, high cholesterol, and the diabetes thing
> too...grrrrrr. Stupid McDonalds. zzzzzzzzzzz
> Cindy
So, Chung. How can you give your usual pat "hunger is good, eat two
pounds" pat advice without knowing how much her salad weighed? She
doesn't mention that. She also doesn't mention what else she ate for
the day. If the salad was part of exactly 2 lbs of food intake for the
day then according to what you are always preaching it should have
been good for her. Why the contradictions? Why are you telling her
it's smarter to eat less, down to the optimal amount when you don't
know what it weighted? Please explain yourself and your 2PD OMER more
specifically in regards to this particular example.
> So, Chung. How can you give your usual pat "hunger is good, eat two
> pounds" pat advice without knowing how much her salad weighed? She
> doesn't mention that. She also doesn't mention what else she ate for
> the day. If the salad was part of exactly 2 lbs of food intake for the
> day then according to what you are always preaching it should have
> been good for her. Why the contradictions? Why are you telling her
> it's smarter to eat less, down to the optimal amount when you don't
> know what it weighted? Please explain yourself and your 2PD OMER more
> specifically in regards to this particular example.
Excellent point and that is why the 2PD Omer Chickenfeed Approach is the
answer.
Every morning fill up one Golden Bowlful of chickenfeed and put in it our
special Chickenfeeder Bag and eat as you want during the day.
For a short time we are offering a special on a Golded Bowl and a
Chickenfeeder Bag - for a reduced cost you can get more than one bag for
families who want to share their Golden Bowl - the family that shares a
Golden Bowl together stays together.
Laus Pollo ! ! !
http://CelestialChicken.org/LausPollo
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryChickenCoop.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of Chicken ala King
http://HeartMDPhD.com/CelestialChicken
In the name of the Chicken, the Chickie and the Fried Egg,
The managament of OAF
Andrew B. Chungkin, Deputy Disciple
Are you going to spend another day doing this?
--
monkfish
Why doesn't HE STOP???
Why do you have to PILE IN, monkfish???
Because it's fun...???
--
Cap'n Hugo-Satan Knockboots, Arrrgh Anorexic Matey!!
Bubba Do Wah Ditty
"Mr. Assy Mc Chung" <AssyM...@emorycardiology.com> wrote in message
news:3d947b59-bb33-4b67...@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> Smarter to eat less, be anorexic:....
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/ChungDung
"monkfish" <monk...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
news:pc6dncQDzuIc55rV...@ptd.net...
> Why is Pvt. Assy Mc Chung STILL posting??
>
> Why doesn't HE STOP???
>
> Why do you have to PILE IN, monkfish???
>
> Because it's fun...???
I'm here to ponder about God.
You provide an example of an empty Godless life.
Have you ever loved anyone?
--
monkfish
> I'm here to ponder about God.
> You provide an example of an empty Godless life.
>
> Have you ever loved anyone?
While watching for your yet to come response to a recent post of mine, I
noticed this.
I thought ACT was where you discussed God and not on SMC. After all those
posts that you were leaving and all your posts to multiple groups set up to
reply only to ACT, why are still discussing it here.
Seems if you were a person of your conviction and word, you would be only
discussing and/or preaching God and your believes on ACT and not here.
I guess that is not the case so maybe your convictions are not as strong as
you like to think and maybe your questions are a cry for help while you are
awash in uncertainty.
In that case, you should have set the followup-to header.
Actually I hardly ever read your morbid daydreams.
But I can help you with your misunderstanding about God.
--
monkfish
Two comments.
1. You responded without answering a simple question about what YOU do. It
was not a rhetorical question or a question about God or love or refernce
point, but a simple question about why YOU do not do as you say in these
groups. Your lack of response is far more revealing than anything else you
could say.
2. I cannot help but notice that recently you respond directly to far more
of J666's posts than J666 does to yours. So we may not know how many of your
posts J666 reads, but you must read many of J666's.
I see you are back to your usual way of setting it up so the response only
goes to ACT. I responded to all and will let you lead the way if this is to
be only on ACT. If you stand by your convictions, you will only respond on
ACT and not elsewhere - if you do that, I will continue this, but if you also
post it here, then it is a waste of time for me to carry on with someone who
does not do as they say in a simple matter like this, which raises the
question how serious you are about God and other issues.
Will look for your non-crossposted response on ACT.
He still answered back.
"monkfish" <monk...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
news:lOudnfFS_41lP5rV...@ptd.net...
What portion is insects and other related lifeforms, such
as spiders and nightcrawlers? That's how chickens supplement
their diet with high grade protein; organic farmers will kill
slugs by installing caged runs between rows of crops and
letting their chickens run free.
The extra nitrogen and phosphorus is a welcome bonus. Less
fertilizer to manufacture and import means less money to OPEC
and fewer American boys shot in the streets of Baghdad.
All of this good is courtesy of the humble chicken.
> Every morning fill up one Golden Bowlful of chickenfeed and put in it our
> special Chickenfeeder Bag and eat as you want during the day.
>
> For a short time we are offering a special on a Golded Bowl and a
> Chickenfeeder Bag - for a reduced cost you can get more than one bag for
> families who want to share their Golden Bowl - the family that shares a
> Golden Bowl together stays together.
Don't forget the protein!
> Laus Pollo ! ! !
>
> http://CelestialChicken.org/LausPollo
>
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Lawful steward ofhttp://EmoryChickenCoop.com
> A latter-day disciple of the KING of Chicken ala Kinghttp://HeartMDPhD.com/CelestialChicken
>
> Don't forget the protein!
Thank you for your correspondence to OAF.
We do offer Chung's Chicken feed which is identical to the chickenfeed the
Celestial Chicken rained down on Moses et al as truthfully told in Exodus.
We do offer a special, with one Golden Bowl, and the needed number of
Chickenfeed bags and the proper amount needed per person in your family. We
have an arrangement whereby FeedEx will deliver monthly the proper amount.
For those traveling, McDonalds now offers a McChickenfeed Meal and for the
children we include a toy chicken, which is suitable to be place on the
dashboard of your car - for dollar more, you can get a chicken whose head
wobbles.
Laus Pollo ! ! !
http://CelestialChicken.org/LausPollo
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryChickenCoop.com
> Over a week ago, I tested monkeybutt's story about his posting from ACT,
> by omitting ACT on a number of replies to him.
>
> He still answered back.
>
Probably because someone crossposted it to ACT.
--
monkfish
You're a liar.
>
> --
> monkfish
> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:24:46 -0500, Phobos wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:13:06 -0500, monkfish wrote (in message
>> <ocydnf2se9kPeprV...@ptd.net>):
>>
>>> You seem to think we are controlling money; and not the other way
>>> around.
>>> Before we get into that,
>>> let's make sure whether we create money or not.
>>>
>>> How do we create money?
>>
>> There you go again with the questions.
>>
>> You need to state HOW you think we create money and WHY it is relevant
>> to the issue of God and I will respond to that since you are the one who
>> feels money is important to the issue.
>>
>> If every step is going to involve you asking questions and my responding
>> like this, then as I said, since I do not need your approval for my
>> views, I am content to just stop.
>>
>> Make you point and I will respond with agreement or disagreement and
>> give my opinion of your view.
>>
>> I will wait to read what you have to say.
>
>
> I don't know how we create money.
> I'm not sure whether we even know what money is.
> We seem to find it existing already.
>
> Is money prior to humans?
>
> --
> monkfish
From ACT where I have been periodically looking since the topic of ACT came
up
MFer's response shows that MF knowledge is that of a child or an uneducated
adult and/or just being a troll.
This reinforces the reason to ignore him - at least Chung can be fun.
"Have chicken fun meal" - as Chickie, the Son of the Celestial Chicken said
in Pollo 12:12
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What is the purpose of this post?
--
monkfish
I gather you suffered a lot in your life
in the hands of lying religious persons.
You better get over it somehow.
Talking about it might help.
--
monkfish
>> From ACT where I have been periodically looking since the topic of ACT
>> came up
>>
>> MFer's response shows that MF knowledge is that of a child or an
>> uneducated adult and/or just being a troll.
>>
>> This reinforces the reason to ignore him - at least Chung can be fun.
>>
>> "Have chicken fun meal" - as Chickie, the Son of the Celestial Chicken
>> said in Pollo 12:12
>
>
> What is the purpose of this post?
> --
> monkfish
If you are not smart enough to know the purpose of and the point made by the
post, I am not going to tell you or ask you inane questions.
The post makes the writer's point much better than you ever have made any of
yours.
I will leave it to others to explain it to you if they want. You might try
asking and see if anyone responds.
You don't seem to be aware of your own cowardice.
I don't care much about public opinion.
And I'm not afraid to be wrong all the time.
I'm serious about my inquiry of God.
I just use the raw energy of atheists
to ask myself the simple but extremely difficult questions.
Even if humans made language,
we are not in control of it anymore.
Same goes with ideals like justice, freedom, humanity, etc.
If we look into the ways of money, language, and ideals,
we might be able to find the way of God.
--
monkfish
You make assumptions that come out of your own dysfunctional "mind".
You lied, and I called you on it.
He's more than that, he's a piece of scum.
In a recent post he tried to make out that my dislike of child molesters
must arise from having been molested.
Now that's a cockroach that needs stepping on.
> "monkfish" <monk...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
> news:hOSdnW9NNpTjYZrV...@ptd.net...
>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:42:21 -0700, J A wrote:
>>
>>> "monkfish" <monk...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
>>> news:ocydnfyse9mGdZrV...@ptd.net...
>>>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:17:45 -0700, J A wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Over a week ago, I tested monkeybutt's story about his posting from
>>>>> ACT, by omitting ACT on a number of replies to him.
>>>>>
>>>>> He still answered back.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Probably because someone crossposted it to ACT.
>>>
>>> You're a liar.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I gather you suffered a lot in your life in the hands of lying
>> religious persons. You better get over it somehow.
>> Talking about it might help.
>
> You make assumptions that come out of your own dysfunctional "mind".
>
> You lied, and I called you on it.
Monkfish is only subscribed to ACT.
Get over it, dear.
--
monkfish
LOL.
You're a liar. You responded to posts from which I excluded ACT.
How do you tell right from wrong using atheism?
--
monkfish
> "monkfish" <monk...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
> news:PvOdnT394KI7mJXV...@ptd.net...
>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:06:28 -0700, J A wrote:
>>
>>> "monkfish" <monk...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
>>> news:hOSdnW9NNpTjYZrV...@ptd.net...
>>>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:42:21 -0700, J A wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "monkfish" <monk...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ocydnfyse9mGdZrV...@ptd.net...
>>>>>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:17:45 -0700, J A wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Over a week ago, I tested monkeybutt's story about his posting
>>>>>>> from ACT, by omitting ACT on a number of replies to him.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He still answered back.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Probably because someone crossposted it to ACT.
>>>>>
>>>>> You're a liar.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I gather you suffered a lot in your life in the hands of lying
>>>> religious persons. You better get over it somehow. Talking about it
>>>> might help.
>>>
>>> You make assumptions that come out of your own dysfunctional "mind".
>>>
>>> You lied, and I called you on it.
>>
>>
>> Monkfish is only subscribed to ACT.
>> Get over it, dear.
>
> LOL.
>
> You're a liar. You responded to posts from which I excluded ACT.
You figure out how it happened yourself.
--
monkfish
By looking at a sick lying piece of scum like yourself, that's how.
I know how it happened, cockroach, you lied.
> "monkfish" <monk...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
>>
>> How do you tell right from wrong using atheism?
>
> By looking at a sick lying piece of scum like yourself, that's how.
You call that a reasoning?
Calm down, dear.
You cannot hurt me
because I'm already in the "healer" mode.
You will just scare away the would-be atheists.
--
monkfish
Why would I do that?
--
monkfish
I call that a description.
No body cares why, cockroach, they only care that you did.
> "monkfish" <monk...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
> news:PvOdnTX94KLql5XV...@ptd.net...
>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:30:30 -0700, J A wrote:
>>
>>> "monkfish" <monk...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> How do you tell right from wrong using atheism?
>>>
>>> By looking at a sick lying piece of scum like yourself, that's how.
>>
>>
>> You call that a reasoning?
>
> I call that a description.
Do you tell right from wrong without any reasoning?
--
monkfish
Do you often try to dictate what others can do?
--
monkfish
Degenerate liars have nothing to teach honest people.
>
> --
> monkfish
You lied about what group you post from.
That's odd.
> "monkfish" <monk...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
>>
>> Do you tell right from wrong without any reasoning?
>
> Degenerate liars have nothing to teach honest people.
>
Is honesty good?
Would you like to be honest?
Does your atheism make you honest?
--
monkfish
> "monkfish" <monk...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
>>
>> Do you often try to dictate what others can do?
>
> You lied about what group you post from.
>
> That's odd.
What would be the point of that?
I have many names on the Usenet.
How about you?
--
monkfish
How often have you undergone psychological evaluations?
BTW, I notice that you have again been tampering with the followups.
>
> --
> monkfish
Why do you have "many names" on usenet?
Why do tamper with the reply followups? Does it make you feel in control of
something?
> "monkfish" <monk...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
> news:qfydnbJk6ec3iZXV...@ptd.net...
>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:09:00 -0700, J A wrote:
>>
>>> "monkfish" <monk...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> Do you tell right from wrong without any reasoning?
>>>
>>> Degenerate liars have nothing to teach honest people.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Is honesty good?
>> Would you like to be honest?
>> Does your atheism make you honest?
>
> How often have you undergone psychological evaluations?
>
> BTW, I notice that you have again been tampering with the followups.
>
Does that bother you a lot?
Do you know that would handicap you?
--
monkfish
> Degenerate liars have nothing to teach honest people.
I heard the Holey Assinity (Chungy, Monky and Perster) will star in the
upcoming series, Desperate Liars.
> That's odd.
No, he is odd.
> "monkfish" <monk...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
> news:qfydna1k6edhiZXV...@ptd.net...
>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:10:44 -0700, J A wrote:
>>
>>> "monkfish" <monk...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> Do you often try to dictate what others can do?
>>>
>>> You lied about what group you post from.
>>>
>>> That's odd.
>>
>>
>> What would be the point of that?
>>
>> I have many names on the Usenet.
>
> Why do you have "many names" on usenet?
>
> Why do tamper with the reply followups? Does it make you feel in control
> of something?
>
I'm already in full control
of what I read and write.
Did you pick up these little rebellion habits while under care?
I don't think so.
Are you trolling?
--
monkfish
> "monkfish" <monk...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
>>
>> Does that bother you a lot?
>
> Did you pick up these little rebellion habits while under care?
>
Are you usually grateful for everything?
Would you like to be?
--
monkfish
> "monkfish" <monk...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
>>
>> I'm already in full control
>> of what I read and write.
>
> I don't think so.
>
Would you like to be ignored?
--
monkfish
Does being ignored upset you?
>
> --
> monkfish
> "monkfish" <monk...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
> news:qfydndhk6ef1hpXV...@ptd.net...
>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:44:31 -0700, J A wrote:
>>
>>> "monkfish" <monk...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> I'm already in full control
>>>> of what I read and write.
>>>
>>> I don't think so.
>
>
>> Would you like to be ignored?
>
> Does being ignored upset you?
>
I would love to be ignored by you.
But I can help you.
So just keep on talking to me.
--
monkfish
And yet here you are.
> "monkfish" <monk...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
> news:qfydndBk6ed9gJXV...@ptd.net...
>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:56:50 -0700, J A wrote:
>>
>>> "monkfish" <monk...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
>>> news:qfydndhk6ef1hpXV...@ptd.net...
>>>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:44:31 -0700, J A wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "monkfish" <monk...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm already in full control
>>>>>> of what I read and write.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think so.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Would you like to be ignored?
>>>
>>> Does being ignored upset you?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I would love to be ignored by you.
>
> And yet here you are.
>
Would you like to be ignored by me?
--
monkfish
By reading any history book.
Studies have shown that atheists favor fish over a chicken by 666,666,666,666
to to 1.
- Bob T.
> We use our brains.
>
> - Bob T.
And the society in which people live, can play a role as to what is viewed as
right and wrong.
Logical natural law.
--
David Silverman
aa #2208
Defender of Civilisation
Lord Mayor of Dis
Lawful copyright holder of the term "Earthquack".
Not authentic without this signature.
Adults shouldn't need the threat of punishment to do the right thing.
-Alan
Give me an example.
What is the history book you read lately?
--
monkfish
> We use our brains.
>
> - Bob T.
Do you have any idea
how your brain tells right from wrong?
--
monkfish
All relative?
Is life sacred to atheists?
--
monkfish
Clearly, you don't or you wouldn't even be asking.
Usenet is not your home schooler.
>http://HeartMDPhD.com/Foolishsatan
>
><><
>
>http://HeartMDPhD.com/TruthSlayssatan
>
Easy...you are dead wrong. We are dead right.
"It is far better to grasp the Universe
as it really is than to persist in delusion,
however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan
>On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:23:43 -0500, J666 wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:14:54 -0500, Bob T. wrote (in message
>> <a1071dc0-3286-45ea...@q24g2000prf.googlegroups.com>):
>>
>>> We use our brains.
>>>
>>> - Bob T.
>>
>> And the society in which people live, can play a role as to what is
>> viewed as right and wrong.
>
>
>All relative?
>Is life sacred to atheists?
Depends on the life. Ever killed a fly?
Sure, with reverence, of course.
Is human life sacred to atheists?
--
monkfish
Hatter
Feel free to use you own definition.
I'm generous that way.
If you can't or won't,
use a free online dictionary.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sacred
"set apart as something special"?
Is a human life special enough
to require extraordinary consideration
before we destroy it?
Is it acceptable to use the cost benefit analysis
with human life?
If so, how much is a human life worth?
--
monkfish
Does seem there are now, and have been many in the past, many who have killed
in the name of a God and of course, according to Bible, God, himself who we
assume believes in Himself, has killed people. Atheists certainly kill too,
but they do not kill solely in the name of a God or have a God who kills
poeple.
>On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:23:43 -0500, J666 wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:14:54 -0500, Bob T. wrote (in message
>> <a1071dc0-3286-45ea...@q24g2000prf.googlegroups.com>):
>>
>>> We use our brains.
>>>
>>> - Bob T.
>>
>> And the society in which people live, can play a role as to what is
>> viewed as right and wrong.
>
>
>All relative?
>Is life sacred to atheists?
As a general principal, yes.
People are killed
for their religion as well.
But more people are killed
for their wealth, race, or nation, etc.
Are you willing to die for your atheism?
--
monkfish
Good for them.
How about the freedom of religion?
--
monkfish
alt.atheism will be removed from the header
as atheists there consider quoting the Bible proselytizing
and as such it is prohibited by their undebatable policy.
Feel free to proselytize at alt.christnet.theology;
yes, even if your faith is atheism.
Sacred? Nothing is sacred.
Precious? Absolutely.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
What a stupid question.
Of course not.
> "monkfish" <monk...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
> news:1Oadne6FgaMvfJXV...@ptd.net...
>> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:28:50 +0100, Therion Ware wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:10:02 -0500, monkfish <monk...@nowhere.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:23:43 -0500, J666 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:14:54 -0500, Bob T. wrote (in message
>>>>> <a1071dc0-3286-45ea-a5f7-
e389e7...@q24g2000prf.googlegroups.com>):
>>>>>
>>>>>> We use our brains.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Bob T.
>>>>>
>>>>> And the society in which people live, can play a role as to what is
>>>>> viewed as right and wrong.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>All relative?
>>>>Is life sacred to atheists?
>>>
>>> Depends on the life. Ever killed a fly?
>>
>>
>> Sure, with reverence, of course.
>> Is human life sacred to atheists?
>
> Sacred? Nothing is sacred.
>
> Precious? Absolutely.
Is anything absolute in atheism?
If so, what does that mean?
What is the ground of such absoluteness?
--
monkfish
* alt.atheism will be removed from the header
as atheists there consider quoting the Bible proselytizing
and as such it is prohibited by their undebatable policy.
Feel free to proselytize at alt.christnet.theology
> As a general principal, yes.
Believers in the name of their God have killed and subjugated many who do not
believe as they do.
There are many causes of war and death and destruction and many have killed
in the name of God, but far fewer have killed in the name of atheism. Atheist
certainly do kill, but not in the name of atheism as believers kill in the
name of their God
if the whole world was atheistic there would have been no crusades and none
of all the deaths involving God such as the Catholics and Protestants in
Europe in the past centuries, and no fighting in Ireland for decades, and no
Islamic terrorism now
> "monkfish" <monk...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
> news:6bWdnX_t3Z96mJTV...@ptd.net...
>> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:16:39 -0500, J666 wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:28:50 -0500, Therion Ware wrote (in message
>>> <8hmh04p98p1qaivhg...@4ax.com>):
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:10:02 -0500, monkfish <monk...@nowhere.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:23:43 -0500, J666 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:14:54 -0500, Bob T. wrote (in message
>>>>>> <a1071dc0-3286-45ea-a5f7-
e389e7...@q24g2000prf.googlegroups.com>):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We use our brains.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Bob T.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And the society in which people live, can play a role as to what is
>>>>>> viewed as right and wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> All relative?
>>>>> Is life sacred to atheists?
>>>>
>>>> Depends on the life. Ever killed a fly?
>>>
>>> Does seem there are now, and have been many in the past, many who have
>>> killed in the name of a God and of course, according to Bible, God,
>>> himself who we assume believes in Himself, has killed people. Atheists
>>> certainly kill too, but they do not kill solely in the name of a God
>>> or have a God who kills poeple.
>>
>>
>> People are killed
>> for their religion as well.
>> But more people are killed
>> for their wealth, race, or nation, etc.
>>
>> Are you willing to die for your atheism?
>
> What a stupid question.
>
> Of course not.
Is there anything you are willing to die for?
How about the freedom of speech?
--
monkfish
* alt.atheism will be removed from the header
because atheists there consider quoting the Bible proselytizing
Are you trying to say that
atheists are less murderous than Christians?
Ever heard of the Chinese Cultural Revolution?
And The Great Purge by Stalin?
--
monkfish * alt.atheism is removed from the header
> Believers in the name of their God have killed and subjugated many who do
> not
> believe as they do.
>
> There are many causes of war and death and destruction and many have killed
> in the name of God, but far fewer have killed in the name of atheism.
> Atheist
> certainly do kill, but not in the name of atheism as believers kill in the
> name of their God
>
> if the whole world was atheistic there would have been no crusades and none
> of all the deaths involving God such as the Catholics and Protestants in
> Europe in the past centuries, and no fighting in Ireland for decades, and no
> Islamic terrorism now
>
You are correct.
Many might view all the deaths due to communism in the Soviet Union,
Communist China, Cuba and other countries as being due to atheism.
For those who do not remember, even monkfish after much discussion said
Communism is not atheism:
First said -
"If you don't understand that communism is atheism, you are not getting what
it means
to be a real communist." monkfish Apr 15th 9:02 AM
and then corrected himself
"What I meant to say is that Communism is atheistic." Apr 15 3:46PM
So all the deaths due Communism were not based on atheism.
Some were simple aggression like many other countries do and some in the
country were killed because they were a threat to the ruling party and the
dictator personally. If threats of hell are a good way to keep the flock in
control, fear of death now by the ruling party is a good way to keep citizens
in control.
It is interesting that many people in Communist countries secretly believed
in God. When many of the countries in Soviet Union and the Eastern European
Bloc Communist countries fell, church attendance picked up very quickly. So
even though Communism was atheistic, many communists personally were theists.
"monkfish" <monk...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
news:1Oadne6FgaMvfJXV...@ptd.net...
> Is human life sacred to atheists?
More so than it is to the theist, who believes everyone has a spare.
--
Steve O
a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter)
B.A.A.W.A.
Convicted by Earthquack
"I have a miraculous picture of Jesus - if you look really closely at the
face, you can see a burnt tortilla"
Is human life sac- what?
Don't wave your theistic terminology at me, man. It's all metaphorical
gibberish anyway.
--
655321
<snip stupid, irrelevant links>
Here, try this one:
<http://www.wnyc.org/shows/radiolab/episodes/2006/04/28>
--
655321
Why don't you get off usenet and spend your time getting better?
>
> --
> monkfish
>> Is human life sacred to atheists?
>
>
> More so than it is to the theist, who believes everyone has a spare.
Yes. If heaven is so great, why do people not want to go there as quuckly as
possible. OTOH, if this life is it, then it is really valuable because this
is it.
Many atheists have blind faith in scientism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientism
Are you one of them?
> monkfish wrote:
>> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:28:50 +0100, Therion Ware wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:10:02 -0500, monkfish <monk...@nowhere.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:23:43 -0500, J666 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:14:54 -0500, Bob T. wrote (in message
>>>>> <a1071dc0-3286-45ea-a5f7-
e389e7...@q24g2000prf.googlegroups.com>):
>>>>>
>>>>>> We use our brains.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Bob T.
>>>>> And the society in which people live, can play a role as to what is
>>>>> viewed as right and wrong.
>>>>
>>>> All relative?
>>>> Is life sacred to atheists?
>>> Depends on the life. Ever killed a fly?
>>
>>
>> Sure, with reverence, of course.
>> Is human life sacred to atheists?
>
> Is human life sac- what?
>
> Don't wave your theistic terminology at me, man. It's all metaphorical
> gibberish anyway.
Is human life special enough
to be given extraordinary consideration
over mere material things?
BTW what kind of people would try to prevent the use of
theistic terminology at a theology newsgroup?
> "monkfish" <monk...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
> news:1Oadne6FgaMvfJXV...@ptd.net...
>
>
>> Is human life sacred to atheists?
>
>
> More so than it is to the theist, who believes everyone has a spare.
Wonderful!
How did you come to that conclusion in atheism?
You misunderstood.
The Reign of God is here and now among us.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_God
> "monkfish" <monk...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
> news:qfydnclk6ee0vZXV...@ptd.net...
>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:06:11 -0700, J A wrote:
>>
>>> "monkfish" <monk...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
>>> news:qfydndBk6ed9gJXV...@ptd.net...
>>>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:56:50 -0700, J A wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "monkfish" <monk...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
>>>>> news:qfydndhk6ef1hpXV...@ptd.net...
>>>>>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:44:31 -0700, J A wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "monkfish" <monk...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm already in full control
>>>>>>>> of what I read and write.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't think so.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Would you like to be ignored?
>>>>>
>>>>> Does being ignored upset you?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I would love to be ignored by you.
>>>
>>> And yet here you are.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Would you like to be ignored by me?
>
> Why don't you get off usenet and spend your time getting better?
>
I can help you get better.
Would you like to be grateful
for everything most of the time?
For another 50 cents, you can get the chicken's head, too.
http://users.mtrx.net/funnypics/content/-rdm1-ABCD1234-rdm1-/2005/2005-09-01-0001/mcdonalds_chickenhead.jpg
>
> Laus Pollo ! ! !
>
> http://CelestialChicken.org/LausPollo
>
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Lawful steward ofhttp://EmoryChickenCoop.com
> A latter-day disciple of the KING of Chicken ala Kinghttp://HeartMDPhD.com/CelestialChicken
>
> In the name of the Chicken, the Chickie and the Fried Egg,
>
> The managament of OAF
>
> Andrew B. Chungkin, Deputy Disciple
Only a fool is willing to die for a belief. Or a lack of it.
> Only a fool is willing to die for a belief. Or a lack of it.
That's not true! You're a goddamn fool, and you say
that you wouldn't die for a belief.
And then there's the examples of the countless atheists
who have died for everything from democracy to patriotism,
things which are only tangibles within the minds of idiots
like you. For everyone else though, they died for a belief...
a belief that one group or idea was significantly different
from another... different enough to warrant dying for...
> For another 50 cents, you can get the chicken's head, too.
>
> http://users.mtrx.net/funnypics/content/-rdm1-ABCD1234-rdm1-/2005/2005-09-01-
> 0001/mcdonalds_chickenhead.jpg
>>
The Celestial Chicken gives of Himself COMPLETELY for mankind. He is head
and shoulder everything else.
Laus Pollo
> Only a fool is willing to die for a belief. Or a lack of it.
George Patton wanted the enemy to die for their cause.
> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:34:47 -0500, monkfish <monk...@nowhere.org>
> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:16:39 -0500, J666 wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:28:50 -0500, Therion Ware wrote (in message
>>> <8hmh04p98p1qaivhg...@4ax.com>):
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:10:02 -0500, monkfish <monk...@nowhere.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:23:43 -0500, J666 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:14:54 -0500, Bob T. wrote (in message
>>>>>> <a1071dc0-3286-45ea-a5f7-
e389e7...@q24g2000prf.googlegroups.com>):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We use our brains.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Bob T.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And the society in which people live, can play a role as to what is
>>>>>> viewed as right and wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> All relative?
>>>>> Is life sacred to atheists?
>>>>
>>>> Depends on the life. Ever killed a fly?
>>>
>>> Does seem there are now, and have been many in the past, many who have
>>> killed in the name of a God and of course, according to Bible, God,
>>> himself who we assume believes in Himself, has killed people. Atheists
>>> certainly kill too, but they do not kill solely in the name of a God
>>> or have a God who kills poeple.
>>
>>
>>People are killed
>>for their religion as well.
>>But more people are killed
>>for their wealth, race, or nation, etc.
>>
>>Are you willing to die for your atheism?
>
> Only a fool is willing to die for a belief. Or a lack of it.
Is that why you are killing yourself for money?
He might not be that noble.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/SadAtheist
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