Daily Spirit-guided health tip for 2/11/08.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthy
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Doug
> The dishonesty exhibited by Dr. Chung is astounding. See the thread
> "Warning to Christian Readers updated"
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/002c6237cdf55a08
>
> God Bless You
His message is that of the locusts of Revelation 9:1-11. In message
http://groups.google.ca/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e3b206473278cf he
wrote: "Our dearly departed Bob (this one) Pastorio's suffering in one
second of being in hell is many times more than the suffering of everyone
in Mexico and Bangladesh combined for a a thousand years plus his suffering
in hell will be for the rest of eternity."
The locusts of Revelation 9:1-11 are a great "woe" whose the doctrine turns
the sun to darkness. The sun represents the true gospel. The locusts
promote the doctrine of unending infernal torment of unbelievers.
Revelation 9:1-11 (My interpretations are enclosed in parentheses.)
1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the
earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.
2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit,
as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by
reason of the smoke of the pit (the truth of the gospel is obscured).
3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: (they resemble the
locusts of the great army described in Joel 2) and unto them was given
power, as the scorpions of the earth have power (they afflict people with
agonizing pain).
4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the
earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which
have not the seal of God in their foreheads (they teach a doctrine that
affects only unbelievers).
5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, (they teach the
immortality of the soul) but that they should be tormented five months:
(the duration of the flood waters that covered the earth, and destroyed all
those not saved in the ark of Noah) and their torment was as the torment of
a scorpion, when he striketh a man (terribly painful).
6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall
desire to die, and death shall flee from them (the doctrine of infernal
torment of the souls of unbelievers).
7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle;
(they are ridden by their dogmas, and fight to defend them) and on their
heads were as it were crowns like gold, (some are venerated as saints, such
as St Augustine, and are shown with halos in old paintings; they appear as
a kingdom of priests, churchmen; 1 Peter 2:9) and their faces were as the
faces of men (they are humans).
8 And they had hair as the hair of women, (like Narazites, they are devoutly
religious, and they are confident in their own safety, and their own
salvation: 2 Samuel 14:11, Luke 21:18) and their teeth were as the teeth of
lions (they appear as fierce predators, who try to intimidate other people
with their growls and snarls; Satan is compared to a lion in 1 Peter 5:8).
9 And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; (they have an
impenetrable defence; even God can't reach their cruel hearts; and they
tout their own righteousness, Ephesians 6:14) and the sound of their wings
was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle (there are
great numbers of them, and they are very aggressive; they also make lots of
noise, like sqeaky chariot wheels).
10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, (Isaiah said, "the prophet that
teacheth lies, he is the tail" Isaiah 9:15) and there were stings in their
tails: and their power was to hurt men five months (the doctrine of
infernal torment of unbelievers).
11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit,
whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, (destroyer, Job 26:6) but in
the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon (Apollo Parnopius, god of plagues.
Apollo is also a god of prophecy).
Doug
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
tr...@is-best.com
Your advice about ignoring andrew chung is very wise for people of
faith. He has also taught that the Holy Trinity is but 3 members of a
system of 7 spirits and that physical objects such as rocks and trees
have souls and free will. He also teaches that the pagan teaching of
"chi" from the false religion of taoism can be equated with the Holy
Spirit which confirs magical powers upon the user.
He believes his false teachings because of distortion of conceptual
process and the source of them is his obvious disorder for which we
should pray God delever and protect. You are right however to correct
him least others be confused or misled just because he evokes religious
justification for his false teachings.
>Be very careful about accepting advice from Dr. Chung. Evidenced upon
>Google are his attempts to mislead true Christians (either deliberately
>or accidentally) on at least two subjects.
>
>First the omer is a measure of volume rather than weight, so following
>his advice and using a weighing scale to limit your food intake is not
>based upon good science or good Bible study.
>
>Second, he has supported a scam created by Ron Wyatt regarding the
>Biblical events surrounding The Red Sea Crossing. When is was pointed
>out to Dr. Chung that the Wyatt "evidence" was dubious, he responded as
>though the poster had written that the Biblical event was dubious. She
>had written no such thing.
>
>These things are independently verifiable by reading old posts, searched
>using Google.
>http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/56b2128b69da3c69
>
>The above described actions are not consistent with those of a person
>guided by The Holy Spirit. Therefore what guides Dr. Chung is not The
>Holy Spirit.
>
>This message has been posted anonymously to avoid personal harassment.
>
>God Bless You
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
J666
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Beatensatan
OAF
Our greatest fears have been realized. We have been worried about all
the posts with an URL ending in "atan." We can now confirm that Dr.
Chung has been moved, along with "Two" Poundus, to the country of
Omersatan. We will try to find out more.
Please continue to pray for Dr. Chung, even though for some unknown
reason, God is not answering our prayers.
bob young
Doug wrote:
> On February 11, 2008 06:50 am, Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
>
> > The dishonesty exhibited by Dr. Chung is astounding. See the thread
> > "Warning to Christian Readers updated"
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/002c6237cdf55a08
> >
> > God Bless You
>
> His message is that of the locusts of Revelation 9:1-11. In message
> http://groups.google.ca/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e3b206473278cf he
> wrote: "Our dearly departed Bob (this one) Pastorio's suffering in one
> second of being in hell is many times more than the suffering of everyone
> in Mexico and Bangladesh combined for a a thousand years plus his suffering
> in hell will be for the rest of eternity."
"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They slander
each other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to any
sort of agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the head
of its own with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those it
wins over to its side."
[R.J.Hoffmann]
J666
>
> "Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They slander
> each other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to any
> sort of agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the head
> of its own with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those it
> wins over to its side."
> [R.J.Hoffmann]
>
Perhaps they know themselves the best and know what to say
Doug
>
>
> Doug wrote:
>
>> On February 11, 2008 06:50 am, Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
>>
>> > The dishonesty exhibited by Dr. Chung is astounding. See the thread
>> > "Warning to Christian Readers updated"
>> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/002c6237cdf55a08
>> >
>> > God Bless You
>>
>> His message is that of the locusts of Revelation 9:1-11. In message
>> http://groups.google.ca/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/48e3b206473278cf he
>> wrote: "Our dearly departed Bob (this one) Pastorio's suffering in one
>> second of being in hell is many times more than the suffering of everyone
>> in Mexico and Bangladesh combined for a a thousand years plus his
>> suffering in hell will be for the rest of eternity."
>
> "Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They
> slander each other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot
> come to any
> sort of agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the
> head of its own with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of
> those it wins over to its side."
> [R.J.Hoffmann]
>
The Apostle Peter warned about false teachers among the believers who would
introduce "damnable heresies" into the church, [2 Peter 2:1] and this
happened in the early centuries of the Christian era. Some of the early
church fathers admired Plato's theory of an immortal soul, and the pagan
idea of unending infernal torment of unbelievers, which after several
centuries, was sanctioned by the church. Peter said that because of those
people "the way of truth shall be evil spoken of," and that is certainly
one of the effects that particular doctrine has had.
In the same chapter, Peter compared those false teachers to "dogs who return
to their own vomit" (vs. 22) which is very helpful for determining what
those false doctrines were, as it suggests the false teachings were derived
from Plato's philosophy and pagan superstition that converts to
Christianity abandoned; it was the "vomit" they returned to.
No one denies that the doctrine of an immortal soul is from Plato, and
Polybius tells us that the rulers of ancient Rome introduced the idea of
infernal torments in order to wield control over the plebs.
Polybius [Histories VI,56]. "But among all the useful institutions, that
demonstrate the superior excellence of the Roman government, the most
considerable perhaps is the opinion which the people are taught to hold
concerning the gods: and that, which other men regard as an object of
disgrace, appears in my judgment to be the very thing by which this
republic chiefly is sustained. I mean, superstition: which is impressed
with all it terrors; and influences both the private actions of the
citizens, and the public administration also of the state, in a degree that
can scarcely be exceeded. This may appear astonishing to many. To me it is
evident, that this contrivance was at first adopted for the sake of the
multitude. For if it were possible that a state could be composed of wise
men only, there would be no need, perhaps, of any such invention. But as
the people universally are fickle and inconstant, filled with irregular
desires, too precipitate in their passions, and prone to violence; there is
no way left to restrain them, but by the dread of things unseen, and by the
pageantry of terrifying fiction. The ancients, therefore, acted not
absurdedly, nor without good reason, when they inculcated the notions
concerning the gods, and the belief of infernal punishments; but much more
those of the present age are to be charged with rashness and absurdity, in
endeavoring to extirpate these opinions. For, not to mention effects that
flow from such an institution, if, among the Greeks, for example, a single
talent only be entrusted to those who have the management of any of the
public money; though they give ten written sureties, with as many seals and
twice as many witnesses, they are unable to discharge the trusts reposed in
them with integrity. But the Romans, on the other hand, who in the course
of their magistracies, and in embassies, disperse the greatest sums, are
prevailed on by the single obligation of an oath to perform their duties
with inviolable honesty. And as, in other states, a man is rarely found
whose hands are pure from public robbery; so, among the Romans, it is no
less rare to discover one that is tainted with this crime. But all things
are subject to decay and change. This is a truth so evident, and so
demonstrated by the perpetual and the necessary force of nature, that it
needs no other proof."
Also the historian Livy in Hist., I 19 says Numa Pompilius, the second king
of Rome, invented the fear of the gods, as "a most efficacious means of
governing an ignorant and barbarous populace."
Augustine of Hippo brought in the doctrine of unending infernal torment of
unbelievers after death, an idea probably imported from his Manichean past.
See Book XXI of "The City of God":
http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/120121.htm
Influenced by Augustine, the Fifth General Council in 553 A.D. approved the
following: "Whoever says or thinks that the torments of the demons and of
impious men are temporal, so that they will, at length, come to an end, or
whoever holds a restoration either of the demons or of the impious, let him
be anathema."
Of course the idea of unending infernal torment is quite contrary to the
gospel which says Jesus Christ is the saviour of all, as John said: "And we
have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of
the world." [1 John 4:14]
And while he indeed takes away the sins of those who believe, he is also the
saviour of unbelievers, as John the Baptist said. "The next day John seeth
Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away
the sin of the world." [John 1:29]
And the Apostle John wrote: "And he is the propitiation for our sins: and
not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world." [1 John 2:2]
These scriptures are incompatible with the pagan doctrine of unending
infernal torment that was introduced by Augustine and has deceived many,
including Dr. Chung, who needs to reconsider his behaviour as well as the
origin of his beliefs about the alleged unending infernal torment of
unbelievers.
Doug
http://vinyl2.sentex.ca/~tcc/OP/
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> satan via another sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed:
> > neighbor Doug wrote:
> >> satan via another sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Christians
** begin Scripture (Luke 16:23-31) reading **
"In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far
away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, 'Father Abraham,
have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water
and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.'
But Abraham replied, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received
your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is
comforted here and you are in agony. And besides all this, between us
and you a great chasm has been fixed, so that those who want to go
from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.'
He answered, 'Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father's
house, for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will
not also come to this place of torment.'
Abraham replied, 'They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to
them.'
'No, father Abraham,' he said, 'but if someone from the dead goes to
them, they will repent.'
He said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they
will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.' " -- LORD
Jesus Christ.
** end Scripture reading **
Amen.
Your false witness and other sins are forgiven:
http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven/
This simply shows that you are lost:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp
May you wisely choose to repent and publicly declare with your mouth
that "Jesus is LORD:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword
tr...@is-best.com
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Doug
<heart...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
The word translated "hell" is the Gk Hades, the unseen, which refers to the
grave, rather than a place of infernal torment. However the Pharisees in
the time of Jesus apparently did have such a belief. It is not what Jesus
taught. He spoke of a resurrection, and a judgement.
Note that the parable of Lazarus and the rich man nowhere says the rich man
suffers "unending torment". But, he is taught by Abraham, and is humbled,
and begins to think of the wealfare of his 5 brothers!
Here is an interesting explanation of the above parable by J.W. Hanson, from
http://www.harvestherald.com/_scrips/indexch6.htm
===================<begin quote>===========================
But what does the parable teach? That the Jewish nation, and especially the
Scribes and Pharisees were about to die as a power,... as a controlling
influence in the world; while the common people among them, and the
Gentiles outside of them, were to be exalted in the new order of things.
The details of the parable show this: 'There was a certain rich man clothed
in purple and fine linen.' In these first words, by describing their very
costume, the Savior fixed the attention of his hearers on the Jewish
priesthood. They were, emphatically, the rich men of that nation. His
description of the beggar was equally graphic. He lay at the gate of the
rich, only asking to be fed with the crumbs that fell from the table. Thus
dependent were the common people, and the Gentiles, on the scribes and
Pharisees. We remember how Christ once rebuked them for shutting up the
kingdom of heaven against these. They lay at the gates of the Jewish
hierarchy, for the Gentiles were literally restricted to the outer court of
the temple. Hence in Rev. xi:12, we read; 'But the court, which is without
the temple, leave out, and measure it not, for it is given unto the
Gentiles.' They could only walk the outer court, or lie at the gate. The
brief, graphic descriptions given by our Savior, at once showed his hearers
that he was describing those two classes, the Jewish priesthood and nation,
on the one hand, and the common people, Jews and Gentiles, on the other.
The rich man died and was buried. This class died officially, nationally,
and its power departed. The kingdom of God was taken from them, and
conferred on others. The beggar died. The Gentiles, publicans and sinners,
were translated into the kingdom of God's dear son, where is neither Jew
nor Greek, but where all are one in Christ Jesus. This is the meaning
of 'Abraham's bosom.' They accepted the true faith and so became one with
faithful Abraham. Abraham is called the father of the faithful, and the
beggar is represented to have gone to Abraham's bosom, to denote the fact,
which is now history, that the common people and Gentiles accepted
Christianity and have since continued Christian nations, enjoying the
blessings of the Christian faith.
What is meant by the torment of the rich man? The misery of those proud men,
when, soon after, their land was captured, and their city and temple
possessed by barbarians, and they scattered like chaff before the wind--a
condition in which they have continued from that day to this. All efforts
to bless them with Christianity have proved unavailing. At this very moment
there is a great gulf fixed so that there is no passing to and fro. And
observe, the Jews do not desire the gospel. Nor did the rich man ask to
enter Abraham's bosom with Lazarus. He only wished Lazarus to alleviate his
sufferings by dipping his finger in water and cooling his tongue. It is so
with the Jews today. They do not desire the gospel; they only ask those
among whom they sojourn to tolerate them and soften the hardships that
accompany their wanderings. The Jewish church and nation are now dead. Once
they were exalted to heaven, but now they are thrust down to Hades, the
kingdom of death, and the gulf that yawns between them and the Gentiles
shall not be abolished till the fullness of the Gentiles shall come in,
and 'then Israel shall be saved.'
Lightfoot says: 'The main scope and design of it seems this: to hint the
destruction of the unbelieving Jews, who, though they had Moses and the
prophets, did not believe them, nay would not believe though one (even
Jesus) arose from the dead.'
...The rich man, or the Jews, were and are in the same Hell in which David
was when he said: 'The pains of Hell (Hades) got hold on me, I found
trouble and sorrow,' and 'thou hast delivered my soul from the lowest
Hell.' Not in endless woe in the future world, but in misery and suffering
in this.
But this is not a final condition. Wherever we locate it, it must end. Paul
asks the Romans, 'Have they (the Jews) stumbled that they should fall? God
forbid! but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the
Gentiles.' 'For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this
mystery, lest you should be wise in your own conceits, that blindness is in
part happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in, and
so all Israel shall be saved. As it is written, There shall come out of
Zion the deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob, for this is
my covenant with them when I shall take away their sins. xi:11, 25, 27.
===================<end quote>===========================
Doug
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > neighbor Doug wrote:
Not for the discerning.
> However the Pharisees in
> the time of Jesus apparently did have such a belief. It is not what Jesus
> taught. He spoke of a resurrection, and a judgement.
HE also spoke of hell as it is written in Scripture both as given here
and elsewhere.
> Note that the parable of Lazarus and the rich man nowhere says the rich man
> suffers "unending torment". But, he is taught by Abraham, and is humbled,
> and begins to think of the wealfare of his 5 brothers!
If the rich man were truly humbled, he would not have continued to
treat Lazarus as a servant.
> Here is an interesting explanation of the above parable by J.W. Hanson, from
> http://www.harvestherald.com/_scrips/indexch6.htm
"Rely not on the teachings of men." -- Holy Spirit.
Amen.
You do not have much longer, dear neighbor Doug:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Prophecy
May you wisely repent soon by publicly declaring with your mouth that
"Jesus is LORD:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
May we, who have stopped sinning though we remain sinners, continue to
pray for your endangered soul:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForDoug
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword
J666
We can now know that Dr. Chung has been moved to the country of
Omersatan.
Please continue to pray for Dr. Chung, even though for some unknown
reason, God is not answering our prayers. We continue to believe
that, after all, the Holy "Father Knows Best."
In Omersatan the God is known as OmaGOD and there is no Trinity as
OmaGOD is omnipotent and the only One and therefore does not need two
others. The theology leader goes by the name Gallon and titles go all
the way down to the lowest level of Half-Pint. Their Holy Book is
only one volume and goes by the name of Volume.
tr...@is-best.com
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
<hiss sputter hiss hiss>
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Beatensatan
You never learn...
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Crazysatan
May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to rebuke you at each GOD-
given opportunity as GOD desires:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan
<><
May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of
Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful :-)
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! )
forever ...
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob
... gone:
http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E
Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love
the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
J A
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) truth imposter hissed:
>
> <hiss sputter hiss hiss>
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Beatensatan
>
> You never learn...
That's right, Andrew!
Tell these doubters how you were murdered in 1997 by the police (as
you've explained to us in the past), and then arose reborn to carry
your message to these barbarians.
You're just as much the real thing as Jesus hisself was.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
J666
<snip>
> Lawful steward ofhttp://EmoryCardiology.com
> Swordbearer for the KING of kings and LORD of lords.http://HeartMDPhD.com/Sword
It seems Chungatan has changed the signature away from Bondservant to
Swordbearer - however, what a monkey like Poundus does not understand,
is in the male a swordbearer could be a male with an erect penis -
with only Mark D. Sade being the only other human person there, this
raises even more questions.
Please please continue to pray as God has to eventually hear our voices
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
<><
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful :-)
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob
... gone:
http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
Amen.
:-)))
J666
away with the question of Chungatan "sword" is his erect penis in
response to the presence of Mark D. Sade. There are unconfirmed
rumors that Mark D. Sade opened a BDSM Club and Chung has been
assigned as his "sword"bearing bondservant. We hope and pray to God
that is not true and Chung will be safely home soon.
On Feb 12, 10:10 pm,Chungatan typed
H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
news:h_GdnYBZzIEYCSza...@sentex.net...
Yes, and YOU are one of them, speaking the heresies of Marcion, with the
early church condemned.
[snip]
Ike
H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
[snip]
> The word translated "hell" is the Gk Hades, the unseen, which refers to
> the
> grave, rather than a place of infernal torment. However the Pharisees in
> the time of Jesus apparently did have such a belief. It is not what Jesus
> taught. He spoke of a resurrection, and a judgement.
This is the same lie Marcion taught, denying that God is fair and balanced,
doling out eternal life AND eternal death, as the Word declares that "God is
love" AND "the Lord is a Man of war."
[snip]
Ike